View Full Version : Boooooring! What boring movies have you sat through?
G. Wen
05-17-2008, 03:46 AM
What are the most boring movies you've sat through? Basically, movies where you're looking at your watch every 2 minutes? Mine:
3rd Matrix Movie: I just wasn't in the movie mood when I got outvoted by friends to see this. I remember looking at my cell phone every few minutes, taking extensive and extended restroom breaks, going out for 2 short walks, and when I came back, the movie wasn't even half way over!
The Conversation: I can never sit through this movie w/o falling asleep at some point. I guess it's just not my type of movie.
The Non Human
05-17-2008, 08:43 AM
i'm usually good with avoiding boring movies on my own...i'm really selective about what i actually go out to the theartres to see. it's usually when it's something i'm pretty positive i'll be into. nine times outta ten i hit the nail on the head...i usually just roll the dice with cable movie channels so i can just grab the remote or turn off the tv....there are the few times though that i get 'dragged' to the bad ones. the butterfly effect and dead man on campus were two of the worst ones i had to sit through...characters i couldn't give a damn about, lame plots, failed attempts at humor etc...i was truly happy to escape the theartre after those ones....
*btw-no offense, but the cell phone light thing you mentioned is fast becoming a big movie pet peeve of mine..it's kinda distracting to me if someones near me doing that our in front of me...i just like how the movies are kinda an escape from all of the day to day craziness of our world today and when i see that stuff flashing around me constantly it just takes me out of the experiance a little....i realize people sometimes have schedules and times they have to check(or the reason for you're post-boredom) but still just gets to me a little....
J-man
05-17-2008, 10:50 AM
I remember seeing the first Rugrats movie when I was about 10, and that it just didn't seem very good to me. I was bored to tears in no time.
When I went to see Osmosis Jones I also found myself bored and hating it. Funny thing now is I love it.
Although I used to be a fan, now I just cannot ever sit through LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring. It just bores me to tears now, as nothing exciting happens for a full hour.
Also, when I decided to watch The Godfather on TV, I only made it past the first couple of minutes. I don't really know why, but I just didn't like it.
R-Taco
05-17-2008, 11:19 AM
I didn't dislike Ang Lee's Hulk movie, but it's the only movie that's ever put me to sleep...
Redbelt. Halfway through the nonsensical plot I started randomly riffing it. It was the only way to cope with David Manmet's hackneyed script.
The Weed Of Cri
05-17-2008, 12:18 PM
I've noticed what is, for me at least, a strange trend. The most that I found most boring over the last few years were, paradoxically, nearly all action films. Those are the movies that are supposed to be exciting, but a lot of them have had nearly the opposite effect on me. I think it's because the modern action film genre itself has changed from big-scale epic stories (i.e.: Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars) to ear-splitting video games where the players (those of us who sit in the theater) have no control over the game play. In movies like King Kong (the Peter Jackson version), Pirates of the Caribbean II and III, and Transformers, the action scenes are too long and repetitious, crossing over the excitement threshold and back into dullness. It doesn't help that the directors don't seem to know how to shoot a scene anymore (Transformers was especially guilty of this; was there one scene in that movie where it didn't look like the cameraman was having a grand mal seizure?). There are still some bright lights out there; Forbidden Kingdom didn't fall into the trap of trying too hard to be a bigger spectacle than everything else, and just tried to tell a good story. But these movies seem to be coming fewer and farther between, and as long as hucksters like Michael Bay continue to be the "in-demand" talents in Hollywood, things will get worse before they get better.
mr.happy
05-17-2008, 12:30 PM
The LOTR and Godfather movies. I nearly nodded off just typing those two titles.
Peter Paltridge
05-17-2008, 01:55 PM
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Wow, that was boring.
I thought my pick would be controversial, but I can't top what Mr. Happy just typed up there.
Bicentennial Man and Waterworld really took the cake for me.
Though lately I'd probably agree with "The Weed of Cri" about a lot of the SFX loaded action pictures as of late. Especially stuff like Catwoman in which there is absolutley nothing plotwise, characterwise, or even thematically the many string of action sequences interesting or necessary. Just padding for a threadbare script.
FightingDreamer
05-17-2008, 03:31 PM
There's nothing worse than watching an action movie that isn't thrilling or a comedy that isn't funny. Heck, I pretty much define any movie that fails to engage me in any way possible (and I mean any way) boring. They're the movies that just sit there on the screen and die. One of the most boring movies in the last few years for me was probably Annapolis, a movie that completely lacked in inspiration. To this day, it's one of the only movies to ever make me sleepy or made me check my watch, thinking "Good God, when will this be over?" Other boring movies of the past few years include Garfield and Eragon, which not even the great Jeremy Irons or an awesomely realized dragon could save.
mr.happy
05-17-2008, 03:39 PM
I thought my pick would be controversial, but I can't top what Mr. Happy just typed up there.I could be persuaded to take the second LOTR movie off the list. It was probably at least moderately entertaining, and the scene where Golum talks to himself was quite something.
Bicentennial Man and Waterworld really took the cake for me.I thought nauseating was a better description for Bicentennial Man, but it at least kept me interested in so much as I wanted to see just how sickening it could possibly get.
Other boring movies of the past few years include Garfield and Eragon, which not even the great Jeremy Irons or an awesomely realized dragon could save.They should have made a Garfield vs Eragon movie instead. :)
HomeMoviesFan
05-17-2008, 04:19 PM
Lord. Of. The. Rings.
Even Jackson's King Kong was more entertaining. I just have no idea how other people can sit through this and go, "man, this is so fast-paced and exciting!" Then again, Harry Potter and Princess Bride is about the only fantasy I've ever been able to stomach. Am I wrong to find them woefully boring?
The one example is a couple of summers ago when my friends decided to watch the three LOTR movies for three consecutive nights. The first one I was incredibly lucky and was whisked away by my nosy parents, but the last two I had to use clever techniques to get out of it. (and yes, sitting in the bathroom for twenty minutes is ten times more entertaining)
Seriously, I have to agree with Randall from Clerks II with this. It's just a bunch of traveling, then an action sequence, strung together by a thin plot. It works so well in a novel since the action is all dictated, but not so much with a film. Please, I would LOVE to know the secret ingredient to sitting through LOTR. And "having some intelligence and imagination" is not an answer...
EDIT: Mr. Happy is right. I was able to sit through most of Two Towers. But Return of the King?! Give me some Tylenol PM and I'll be happy...
Baltofan
05-17-2008, 04:35 PM
I felt asleep while watching the Lord of the Rings cartoon.
Ykwia
05-17-2008, 04:42 PM
Pirates of the Carribean 3
Temple Fugate
05-17-2008, 04:45 PM
I guess for some reason I don't get bored as easily, since I was never bored by LotR, Matrix, Transformers, etc. Even Wes Anderson movies don't bore me. I greatly enjoyed the trance that Tenenbaums and Life Aquatic lulled me into. (Engaged Trance =/= Boredom)
There is a fear among some film critics that the faster pacing and editing of movies these days is weakening our attention span. I'm not sure that has any basis in truth, especially considering that most of the items on this list are more recent, rapidly-edited films. A lot of people were bored by Speed Racer despite its relentless racing sequences.
I'm going to compare two movies that have almost nothing in common: Transformers and Citizen Kane. Which one bores you more easily? Is it Citizen Kane with its long takes and slow-paced dialogue-heavy scenes, or is it Transformers with its monotonous tone of rapid edits and macho-talk? I guess to answer that question you have to figure out what aspect of a movie bores you: The pace of the plot, the quickness of the editing, the tone of the music, the caliber of the acting, etc.
The most recent movie that I can think of that bored me was Death Proof. Even the sharp Tarantino dialogue got repetitive after a while. Fortunately the ending made up for it, but my theater audience had dwindled down to almost nothing by that point. I would have walked out with them except my conscience forces me to watch a film to its end just to give it a fair chance.
Infusions
05-17-2008, 04:47 PM
I didn't dislike Ang Lee's Hulk movie, but it's the only movie that's ever put me to sleep...
Funny thing, I fell asleep during The Hulk as well. But the only reason I did so was because my family took me to see the midnight premiere at a theater after we just spent hours at this themed resturant (Mars 2112. You start out on this space ship-esque ride and then get put into this huge flashy resturant and they had an arcade. ARCADEEEEE.) and I was so exhausted, I didn't really have any energy to watch it.
I don't really remember waking up though.
How did I get home.
GregX
05-17-2008, 04:51 PM
Anyone who says "The Godfather" needs Ritalin.
Seriously, I hate the way movies are made now. Cut. Cut. Cut. Cut. If a film is allowed to breathe and actually focus on the characters, it is called boring.
I hate the MTV generation with a fiery passion.
Movie06
05-17-2008, 05:04 PM
Bakshi's Lord of the Rings, The Godfather and Gladiator all seemed boring to me.
GregX
05-17-2008, 05:08 PM
The Godfather:
Academy Awards:
1. Best Actor, Marlon Brando (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brando) 2. Best Picture, Albert S. Ruddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_S._Ruddy) 3. Best Adapted Screenplay, Mario Puzo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Puzo), Francis Ford Coppola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ford_Coppola)
Golden Globe Awards:
1. Best Picture - Drama 2. Best Director, Francis Ford Coppola 3. Best Actor - Drama, Marlon Brando 4. Best Original Score, Nino Rota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Rota) 5. Best Screenplay, Mario Puzo, Francis Ford Coppola
Number 2 on the American Film Institutes's list of greatest films of the last century (just behind Citizen Kane).
It made US$5,264,402 in its opening weekend and went on to gross $81,500,000 in its initial run; nearly fourteen times its budget and marketing campaign. Re-releases boosted its North American total to $134 million.
It was beloved by the public and critics... something that doesn't happen so much anymore.
Yeah, really boring film.
James
05-17-2008, 05:11 PM
Brazil - I've mentioned that one many times, so I won't bleat too much. Too long and felt like a very unfunny Python sketch fused with some seen it before big brother satire.
Death Becomes Her - Woeful film held together by some at-the-time amazing CGI. For the 10 minutes of effects, the extra 80 minutes were dull, dull, dull.
Pirates of The Caribbean - Wonderful performance by Depp, but the film dragged for me, offering nothing that visually tickled or dramatically titillated or enthralled.
Mad Max 3 - Legend of the Thunderous Snore - Okay, worst pun ever, barely even a pun, but for one of the worst films I've seen ever - barely a film, it seems suitable.
Matrix 2 and 3 were indeed very hard to care about. Almost turned off 2 after 10 very dull minutes and 3 only stayed on because I had a book and a remote too far to reach.
Dragonslayer - Could a movie be any slower. Killed me as a kid, trapped watching it slug on at the cinema.
Plan 9 From Outer Space - people like to say it's hilariously awful from start to finish - most of these people are ones who have managed 10 minutes. It is hilariously awful, but only for small slices. Trying watching the whole thing and some limb will be forced to drop off. Terrible. Impossible to watch and best pretending you have - as most probably do.
Movie06
05-17-2008, 05:12 PM
I'm aware, GregX. But it's my opinion.
Infusions
05-17-2008, 05:17 PM
The Godfather:
Academy Awards:
1. Best Actor, Marlon Brando (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brando) 2. Best Picture, Albert S. Ruddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_S._Ruddy) 3. Best Adapted Screenplay, Mario Puzo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Puzo), Francis Ford Coppola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ford_Coppola)
Golden Globe Awards:
1. Best Picture - Drama 2. Best Director, Francis Ford Coppola 3. Best Actor - Drama, Marlon Brando 4. Best Original Score, Nino Rota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Rota) 5. Best Screenplay, Mario Puzo, Francis Ford Coppola
Number 2 on the American Film Institutes's list of greatest films of the last century (just behind Citizen Kane).
It made US$5,264,402 in its opening weekend and went on to gross $81,500,000 in its initial run; nearly fourteen times its budget and marketing campaign. Re-releases boosted its North American total to $134 million.
It was beloved by the public and critics... something that doesn't happen so much anymore.
Yeah, really boring film.
"Statistics mean nothing to the individual."
GregX
05-17-2008, 05:24 PM
I'm aware, GregX. But it's my opinion.
Okay, and I'm not being mean. But you're young. Maybe wait a few years and give it a shot again when you're a little older.
I was twenty-four the first time I saw it, a little older and a little wiser than when I previously had a chance at the age of twelve.
Desensitized
05-17-2008, 05:25 PM
"When are they getting to the fireworks factory?"
The Life Aquatic bored me, but I loved the Darjeeling Limited. I guess the former just didn't click with me.
Movie06
05-17-2008, 05:27 PM
Okay, and I'm not being mean. But you're young. Maybe wait a few years and give it a shot again when you're a little older.
I was twenty-four the first time I saw it, a little older and a little wiser than when I previously had a chance at the age of twelve.
I did give the film a second chance, I was still bored, I'm sorry but it's my opinion and I don't think I'll ever watch it again.
But anyway, I also find Once Upon a Forrest to be boring as well to be honest. It's too preachy for my taste.
GregX
05-17-2008, 05:32 PM
How the hell can that movie bore anybody?
Movie06
05-17-2008, 05:37 PM
How the hell can that movie bore anybody?
Well, for me it was too preachy, that's the boring part. Not to mention, Once Upon a Forest felt more like an after school special.
GregX
05-17-2008, 06:00 PM
Well, for me it was too preachy, that's the boring part. Not to mention, Once Upon a Forest felt more like an after school special.
Oh, I never saw "Once Upon a Forest". No desire.
Movie06
05-17-2008, 06:12 PM
Ok, Greg will also kill me for this but I also find Citizen Kane to boring as well. I thought it was too long for me, it made feel sleepy.
GregX
05-17-2008, 06:26 PM
Ok, Greg will also kill me for this but I also find Citizen Kane to boring as well. I thought it was too long for me, it made feel sleepy.
::CHARGES in decked out in black, with a huge skull on his shirt and a leather duster. Pulls out the big guns! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!! DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kidding, you know. :D
mr.happy
05-17-2008, 06:26 PM
The Godfather:
Academy Awards:
1. Best Actor, Marlon Brando (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brando) 2. Best Picture, Albert S. Ruddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_S._Ruddy) 3. Best Adapted Screenplay, Mario Puzo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Puzo), Francis Ford Coppola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ford_Coppola)
Golden Globe Awards:
1. Best Picture - Drama 2. Best Director, Francis Ford Coppola 3. Best Actor - Drama, Marlon Brando 4. Best Original Score, Nino Rota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Rota) 5. Best Screenplay, Mario Puzo, Francis Ford Coppola
Number 2 on the American Film Institutes's list of greatest films of the last century (just behind Citizen Kane).
It made US$5,264,402 in its opening weekend and went on to gross $81,500,000 in its initial run; nearly fourteen times its budget and marketing campaign. Re-releases boosted its North American total to $134 million.
It was beloved by the public and critics... something that doesn't happen so much anymore.
Yeah, really boring film.Oh good, Oscars. It must be awesome. Should we apply your reasoning to a movie like Titanic, and prove its better than The Godfather? Titanic won more Oscars, had better box office, and it was beloved by the public and critics... something that doesn't happen so much anymore.
Rock solid logic there, GregX. ;)
Ok, Greg will also kill me for this but I also find Citizen Kane to boring as well. I thought it was too long for me, it made feel sleepy.You're not wrong. I think if your case for The Godfather not being boring means enlisting fans of Citizen Kane for support, you're probably on very thin ice. ;)
GregX
05-17-2008, 06:28 PM
Oh good, Oscars. It must be awesome. Should we apply your reasoning to a movie like Titanic, and prove its better than The Godfather? Titanic won more Oscars, had better box office, and it was beloved by the public and critics... something that doesn't happen so much anymore.
Rock solid logic there, GregX. ;)
You're not wrong.
Don't forget AFI!
James
05-17-2008, 06:32 PM
The Life Aquatic bored me, but I loved the Darjeeling Limited. I guess the former just didn't click with me.
The Life Aquatic is a weird movie. It's boring and slow, yet I love it. I've never been able to fathom why on both counts. Maybe its the killer outro to Bowie, but I'd like to think my taste runs somewhat deeper than being turned by a 3 minute credit roll.
Slow, clunky movie that somehow charms me - despite being boring. Can't think of another that invokes such emotion. Well done Life Aquatic.
Movie06
05-17-2008, 06:36 PM
]You're not wrong. I think if your case for The Godfather not being boring means enlisting fans of Citizen Kane for support, you're probably on very thin ice. ;)
I just find Citizen Kane and The Godfather to be boring that's all.
GregX
05-17-2008, 06:36 PM
I hereby move that we change the title of this thread to "I Hate Intellectual Film."
I leave you all with this quote:
"In 1977, George Lucas' "Star Wars" was released, and the intellectual and art side of filmmaking and filmgoing has been scattered to the four winds ever since."
Movie06
05-17-2008, 06:38 PM
I hereby move that we change the title of this thread to "I Hate Intellectual Film."
If you hate my opinions so much, just ignore them.
GregX
05-17-2008, 06:39 PM
If you hate my opinions so much, just ignore them.
You're not the one who's bothering me. I even had some fun with you a few posts up.
Hanshotfirst113
05-17-2008, 06:47 PM
I've noticed what is, for me at least, a strange trend. The most that I found most boring over the last few years were, paradoxically, nearly all action films. Those are the movies that are supposed to be exciting, but a lot of them have had nearly the opposite effect on me. I think it's because the modern action film genre itself has changed from big-scale epic stories (i.e.: Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars) to ear-splitting video games where the players (those of us who sit in the theater) have no control over the game play.
Yup. I, by the way, Love Jackson, but I think that part of the problem is that action flicks today have no substance at all except for watching stuff blow up. That's fine. But if that's the case, then why make them three hours? 90 minutes should be more sufficient. It's so ironic that Jurassic Park has that speech about the dangers of cloning is perfect a description of CGI: "you were so preoccupied with the fact that you could that you never stopped to think if you should. You wield this power like a kid who's found his dad's gun." Hollywood films today are products. I'm not being cynical. It's a fact. There are film targeted to specific audiences, they test-screened for specific impact. It's like McDonalds. It's junk food. That's fine; I eat way too much McDonalds, but why do you think that you always see couples on dates and Hollywood films, or see people in groups? They are specifically designed to have something to appeal to everyone. In doing that, they essentially have no individuality.
In terms of action films, it's the artificality of CGI. Think about the difference between having a camera strapped to a roller coaster and then watching the video, vs. actually RIDING one. There's a thrill that you can only get from watching two things banged together. An action movie shouldn't impress you. It should thrill you. You should feel suspense. See the problem? Action sequences shouldn't be the only action in the movie. The movie should have momentum. The story should be told on the run. On any Hollywood blockbuster, you can literally pick out the chapter stops with the action sequences. Look at a great Hitchcock film. Let's take North By Northwest. The whole movie is riveting, even when it's not a set piece, but it's vibrant, alive. OK, old movie, fine. Modern example: the Bourne movies. Trashy, I'll grant you, Stephen King trashy. Good trash. And there is such a thing. Even when nothing is being shot to pieces and no bones are breaking, the movie never slows down. Die Hard. The movie's setting means that even in set pieces that aren't kinetic, like the air duct scenes, are still thrilling. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. There's really not much action per se in the famous Nebula scene. But there's tension. Pathos. Action sequences in movies today are great to look at, but so are car commercials. Is Indiana Jones going to die in Raiders of the Lost Ark? No. If he dies, the movie ends. But that's not the point. The point is that Spielberg, every time that he get into a scrape, makes you believe that it's the end of him.
In movies like King Kong (the Peter Jackson version)I happen to like that film :). The action sequences are imaginative and creative. They go on too long, I'll give you that.
Pirates of the Caribbean II and III, and Transformers, the action scenes are too long and repetitious, crossing over the excitement threshold and back into dullness.Excess is not intrinsically a bad thing. Look at a great Hong Kong action film, a great anime, or something like Sam Raimi's Evil Dead II. All of them are excessive to the Nth degree. The differences is that they aren't running the same ideas into the ground over and over. They always have new ones. Not variations on a theme, but something new entirely. A different way of shooting stuff, a different bag of tricks. The wheel sequence in Pirates 2 or pretty much any set piece from Van Helsing is the same thing ad nausem. Swordfight. Explosion. Arrow. New creature jumps out. Over. And over. And over again, to point where I just don't care.
It doesn't help that the directors don't seem to know how to shoot a scene anymore (Transformers was especially guilty of this; was there one scene in that movie where it didn't look like the cameraman was having a grand mall seizure?). Quite (http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s367pearl.html) correct (http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s387furious.html). What's the point of an action sequence if you can't see it.
As long as hucksters like Michael Bay continue to be the "in-demand" talents in Hollywood, things will get worse before they get better.Bay is "in" right now. He's the popular fad and everyone wants to imitate him.
The LOTR and Godfather movies. I nearly nodded off just typing those two titles.
Must...destroy...:p
They should have made a Garfield vs Eragon movie instead. :)
That I might pay to see, but it'd be what, six second long?
Anyone who says "The Godfather" needs Ritalin.
It's slow. It's a film that you need to immerse yourself in. You can't watch it with beer and pizza. You need to commit to the The Godfather, to become invested in the characters. You need to spend time with it, to get involved in it. It's a challenging film. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Seriously, I hate the way movies are made now. Cut. Cut. Cut. Cut. If a film is allowed to breathe and actually focus on the characters, it is called boring.Again, not intrinsically a bad thing. Peckinpah used to do that sort of thing very well (http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s1860peck.html). But even in his most kinetic scenes, even when the merely lasted a few frames, they made sense. They were part of a coherent whole. How Michael Bay can manage to edit some of the nonsensical stuff that he does with three ACE editors, including Mark Goldbaltt, is a mystery to me. To me, edits in a film are like brush strokes in a painting. They're there to make a part of a whole. They are all beautiful in their own way, and makes something overwhelming as a whole. A series of powerful images. Look at Seven Samurai, a film that at 3.5 hours, barrels through doesn't seem to drag. Now look at some 90 minute movies (I want to pick Dumb and Dumberer, but I never saw, and I'm trying to think of a similar example of short but seemingly endless movie), which never seem to end. It's all relative.
I hate the MTV generation with a fiery passion.In 1974, a major studio funded Chinatown and in the 1960s, Bob Dylan made albums like Highway 61 Revisited. Now, we have Eminem and Shot at Love With Tila Teaquila. Please explain what happened :p. However, I think that there is a danger here. It's way, way, way too easy to say that things were better in the olden days and criticize the way that thing are now, when in reality, there's always plenty of junk. Sturgeon's law. Today, there's just a lot more stuff, what with the Internet and whatnot.
Brazil - I've mentioned that one many times, so I won't bleat too much. Too long and felt like a very unfunny Python sketch fused with some seen it before big brother satire.
We know ;).
Pirates of The Caribbean - Wonderful performance by Depp, but the film dragged for me, offering nothing that visually tickled or dramatically titillated or enthralled. I thought that I was the only one!
Mad Max 3 - Legend of the Thunderous Snore - Okay, worst pun ever, barely even a pun, but for one of the worst films I've seen ever - barely a film, it seems suitable. There are few inspired elements, like the action sequences, but it's clear where Miller is directing and where he's not :p.
Matrix 2 and 3 were indeed very hard to care about. Almost turned off 2 after 10 very dull minutes and 3 only stayed on because I had a book and a remote too far to reach.How can you read with that much noise? Did you at least mute it?
Dragonslayer - Could a movie be any slower. Killed me as a kid, trapped watching it slug on at the cinema.I happen to like that movie :p.
But anyway, I also find Once Upon a Forrest to be boring as well to be honest. It's too preachy for my taste.
What the heck is Once Upon A Forrest?
*That was a joke. Nobody get ticked OK?
I hope that this isn't the most pretentious and self-indulgent post in the history of the Internet, and that no one is offended. If so, I apologize, and I shall edit it. Really, I'm not in a bad mood.
"In 1977, George Lucas' "Star Wars" was released, and the intellectual and art side of filmmaking and filmgoing has been scattered to the four winds ever since."
Hey! I sent you that article, didn't I ;)?
Okay, and I'm not being mean. But you're young. Maybe wait a few years and give it a shot again when you're a little older.
I was twenty-four the first time I saw it, a little older and a little wiser than when I previously had a chance at the age of twelve.
I've revisited many films which I didn't much like on the first viewing later and enjoyed them, actually.
mr.happy
05-17-2008, 06:50 PM
I just find Citizen Kane and The Godfather to be boring that's all.And just so there's no confusion, I agree entirely.
I hereby move that we change the title of this thread to "I Hate Intellectual Film."That would seem like a grotesque misrepresentation of the comments in this thread. Motion denied.
I leave you all with this quote:
"In 1977, George Lucas' "Star Wars" was released, and the intellectual and art side of filmmaking and filmgoing has been scattered to the four winds ever since."Right. Well, since we're throwing around quotes, I've always liked "stupid is as stupid does". ;)
King Kong (2005)
Baffling really since the movie is wonderful to look at and has some fantastic scenes but I'll be damned if I ever watch it again anytime soon.
Desensitized
05-17-2008, 06:59 PM
The Life Aquatic is a weird movie. It's boring and slow, yet I love it. I've never been able to fathom why on both counts. Maybe its the killer outro to Bowie, but I'd like to think my taste runs somewhat deeper than being turned by a 3 minute credit roll.
Slow, clunky movie that somehow charms me - despite being boring. Can't think of another that invokes such emotion. Well done Life Aquatic.Oh yeah, I saw it with two other friends. I was indifferent, one friend loved it, and the other hated it. We all watched the same thing and had similar opinions on it, but it just seemed to leave different impressions on us.
Very strange movie.
DisneyBoy
05-17-2008, 07:11 PM
Vanilla Sky had some interesting moments, but holy heck I just wanted it to end. I'll never get that time back, and it haunts me.
GregX
05-17-2008, 07:15 PM
Vanilla Sky had some interesting moments, but holy heck I just wanted it to end. I'll never get that time back, and it haunts me.
Penelope Cruz's boobs were the only good part. But, god, they were ruined by being on screen with that nut case, Tom Cruise... god, I hate him so much :evil:
HomeMoviesFan
05-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Definitely agree that movies are too long nowadays. Especially LOTR and Michael Bay movies. Did Transformers really need to be 2 and a half hours long? I was entertained for 90 minutes, then found myself glancing at my watch the rest of the way. And LOTR? Jackson, do we really need a word-by-word reconstruction of the scene in the middle of page 238?
This is what I like about the non-Chris Columbus Harry Potter movies. They cut scenes from the book and adjust it to the medium. I had an argument with one of my (HP-fanatic) friends about this. She opts out of the movies because she doesn't like them anymore. Her reason? "They cut stuff out!" That makes no sense whatsoever. Film is a way different medium than a novel. With a novel, vivid descriptive literature can make almost any long conversation seem interesting. In film, you have to leave some details out so it doesn't drag. Now, I'm not advocating the edit-happy super-fast-paced films we have, but for Harry Potter it works. It's a tighter story as a result, flows better and ultimately is more entertaining. Of course, my friend doesn't see that. She just watches and thinks, "Okay, when is Harry going to say this? When is Ron going to do this exact thing in this scene as he does in the book? What?! He doesn't?! Blasphemy!!"
The thing about LOTR? Jackson takes his time way too much, where I'd rather take my time and snooze. Seriously, the three Lord of the Rings books should not take nine hours to watch. How people watch the extended editions is something that escapes me as well...
BTW- I loved the Godfather. Just if that makes anyone respect me after denouncing LOTR...
Mr. Anime
05-17-2008, 07:17 PM
King Kong, Batman Begins, Superman Returns, and the last two Pirates of the Caribbean films.
Infusions
05-17-2008, 07:21 PM
King Kong, Batman Begins, Superman Returns, and the last two Pirates of the Caribbean films.
If you don't like those movies, then what do you like? :0
I'm actually kinda curious.
Hanshotfirst113
05-17-2008, 07:22 PM
Vanilla Sky had some interesting moments, but holy heck I just wanted it to end. I'll never get that time back, and it haunts me.
Rent the original version. It's far better.
Penelope Cruz's boobs were the only good part. But, god, they were ruined by being on screen with that nut case, Tom Cruise... god, I hate him so much :evil:
Rent the original, Abre Los Ojos. Cruz is also in that one, but Cruise is not. Whee! This is fun!
And LOTR? Jackson, do we really need a word-by-word reconstruction of the scene in the middle of page 238?
Actually, many of his deviations from the text were substantial.
This is what I like about the non-Chris Columbus Harry Potter movies. They cut scenes from the book and adjust it to the medium. I had an argument with one of my (HP-fanatic) friends about this. She opts out of the movies because she doesn't like them anymore. Her reason? "They cut stuff out!" That makes no sense whatsoever.Too bad Kuwa is gone.
How people watch the extended editions is something that escapes me as well...
It's a nerd thing :D.
Nightwing
05-17-2008, 07:28 PM
I'd just like to remind everyone to remain civil, and discuss and debate with some backing to your argument. Other posters understand your position better that way. Also, these movie topics can sometimes get heated here. A place for debate and discussion means, by definition, not a place for any kind of personal attacks or negative feelings against other posters for offering an opinion.
This is what I like about the non-Chris Columbus Harry Potter movies. They cut scenes from the book and adjust it to the medium. I had an argument with one of my (HP-fanatic) friends about this. She opts out of the movies because she doesn't like them anymore. Her reason? "They cut stuff out!" That makes no sense whatsoever. Film is a way different medium than a novel. With a novel, vivid descriptive literature can make almost any long conversation seem interesting. In film, you have to leave some details out so it doesn't drag.
That is incredibly funny, and I would also say is very very true. It's like instead of experiencing a movie and its stories and characters, you're reading a rewritten grocery list, to make sure that nothing was left out when it was translated to the second piece of paper. No sense.
Fandom territory is a very dangerous and taboo place! If you're making a movie about someone's fandom, you won't want to surf the internet without internet bodyguards and internet pope-mobiles.
J-man
05-17-2008, 08:21 PM
I also despise Clerks; it was simply too slow and too pointless for me. And I have tried to watch it on several occasions, but it still hasn't gotten any better.
Desensitized
05-17-2008, 09:07 PM
I also despise Clerks; it was simply too slow and too pointless for me. And I have tried to watch it on several occasions, but it still hasn't gotten any better.I've never considered it slow, but to each his own. But 'pointless'? I don't know if I could ever label the film pointless. Although it can feel that way. The film if anything is a portrait of Gen-X, it's a moment in time. The film holds up to me, because I find it fascinating that I can relate to a generation I was never a part of, I also enjoy the witty dialog and strange plot points. I also love the ending, too. It fits the movie perfectly, even though I've heard some complain it's too vague.
I can see why someone wouldn't be interested in the film, though.
FightingDreamer
05-17-2008, 09:18 PM
It's a nerd thing :D.
Quoted. For. Freaking. Truth. I haven't partook in the EE's myself, although they're currently sitting in my Netflix queue (I'm debating whether to add the Bonus Material discs...).
mookie75
05-17-2008, 09:37 PM
This is what I like about the non-Chris Columbus Harry Potter movies. They cut scenes from the book and adjust it to the medium. I had an argument with one of my (HP-fanatic) friends about this. She opts out of the movies because she doesn't like them anymore. Her reason? "They cut stuff out!" That makes no sense whatsoever.
Tell her to get a bunch of her friends together and have a "reading" of one of the books. They should read only the dialogue. Don't even allow time for the necessity of acting things out that aren't being spoken. Just read everything that's in quotation marks. See how long it takes.
After she's done this, then you can tell her to shut up.... :p
JRP82190
05-17-2008, 09:49 PM
The Godfather:
Academy Awards:
1. Best Actor, Marlon Brando (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brando) 2. Best Picture, Albert S. Ruddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_S._Ruddy) 3. Best Adapted Screenplay, Mario Puzo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Puzo), Francis Ford Coppola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ford_Coppola)
Golden Globe Awards:
1. Best Picture - Drama 2. Best Director, Francis Ford Coppola 3. Best Actor - Drama, Marlon Brando 4. Best Original Score, Nino Rota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nino_Rota) 5. Best Screenplay, Mario Puzo, Francis Ford Coppola
Number 2 on the American Film Institutes's list of greatest films of the last century (just behind Citizen Kane).
It made US$5,264,402 in its opening weekend and went on to gross $81,500,000 in its initial run; nearly fourteen times its budget and marketing campaign. Re-releases boosted its North American total to $134 million.
It was beloved by the public and critics... something that doesn't happen so much anymore.
Yeah, really boring film.
Just cause you like it doesn't mean everyone has to
Titanic I fell asleep watching this movie when I woke up there was still an hour left of it
Movie06
05-17-2008, 10:14 PM
Titanic I fell asleep watching this movie when I woke up there was still an hour left of it
Same here. Titianic is another movie that bored me completely. I mean, all that movie was about was two annoying people in love with each other on a sinking ship.
Superman returns. I've never seen the first half of the film since I feel in such a deep sleep that i was snoring. I wouldnt blame so much the movie as the fact that I had only slept three hours in three days. I didnt stand a chance watching Superman lol.
I hereby move that we change the title of this thread to "I Hate Intellectual Film.I could see why you would post The Godfathers impressive list of awards, and get somewhat steamed that the movie is even being brought up in this discussion and therefore give us that sentence that I quoted, if they were saying the Godfather was the worst movie of all time. But there just saying its boring. (Fyi intellectual=boring for us average minded people lmao).
Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe is a horrendously boring film, specially if you've read the books. The movie does absolutely nothing to distinguish itself from the source material, making an extremely predictable film. Besides, the first two thirds of the movie are nothing but setup, nothing "exciting" happens, and by the time you reach the climax, it's over incredibly fast.
Only time in my life I've been >this< close to walking out of a theater.
The Weed Of Cri
05-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Vanilla Sky had some interesting moments, but holy heck I just wanted it to end. I'll never get that time back, and it haunts me.
Mentioning Vanilla Sky brings up another aspect of what makes films boring; does the director risk losing his audience's interest if he opts for a non-linear storytelling format that can be confusing to a viewer looking for something engaging in the story? True story: at one of the theaters in Philadelphia, a projectionist accidentally switched the third and fourth reels of Vanilla Sky while building up the print, and it played like that for five days before anyone noticed.
A lot of people have mentioned slowly-paced classics as "boring" films. I don't necessarily think a slowly-paced film makes a film dull. Measured pacing can actually make a film exciting if done right (see The Works of Alfred Hitchcock). And I am generally much less offended by a dull movie than one that doesn't make any sense, or has plot developments that defy all logic or standards of normal human behavior. Nor do I think jump-cut editing is always bad; the shower scene from Hitchcock's Psycho runs less than 40 seconds and is comprised of 85 separate cuts, and it is one of the most brilliant pieces of filmmaking ever.
King Kong, Superman Returns and the first Pirates of the Caribbean film were all very good 2-hour movies. The problem is, they are three-hour movies! Hollywood seems to have forgotten the magic of judicious editing.
J. B. Warner
05-18-2008, 12:48 PM
I know it's considered a classic of Japanese cinema, but I just couldn't tolerate Ikiru. At least not after the guy died, anyway - after that, there's about 45 agonizing minutes of his colleagues discussing whether or not he knew he was on his deathbed. (But in my defense, I was watching it in my Film Analysis class and I really had to go to the bathroom, so my mind was on other things at the time.)
Ragebot
05-18-2008, 01:31 PM
I know it's considered a classic of Japanese cinema, but I just couldn't tolerate Ikiru. At least not after the guy died, anyway - after that, there's about 45 agonizing minutes of his colleagues discussing whether or not he knew he was on his deathbed. (But in my defense, I was watching it in my Film Analysis class and I really had to go to the bathroom, so my mind was on other things at the time.)
Personally, I consider it to be one of the most brilliant plot twists in the history of film.
All of Kurosawa's films are languidly-paced. Most of the time it works to create mood (Stray Dog, Yojimbo, Throne of Blood) but in other films it simply feels like filler (Rashomon, Hidden Fortress).
Hanshotfirst113
05-18-2008, 04:49 PM
Quoted. For. Freaking. Truth. I haven't partook in the EE's myself, although they're currently sitting in my Netflix queue (I'm debating whether to add the Bonus Material discs...).
A fair warning: each film has four commentary tracks, to say nothing of the staggering amount of extras. THAT is a DVD presentation, and the original is available in crisp high-quality as well. So if do, be prepared for it to take a big chunk of your time :p.
Same here. Titanic is another movie that bored me completely. I mean, all that movie was about was two annoying people in love with each other on a sinking ship.
The action sequences in the last hour of Titanic are incredible, you just have to sit through the first two hours of Danielle Steele to get to it. Aesthetically, Titanic is a magnificent film, the likes of which is seldom seen today in cinema, full of brilliantly lit cinematography not seen since the Golden Age of Hollywood, breathtaking production design, and masterful special effects. Narratively...well, let's not go there.
Mentioning Vanilla Sky brings up another aspect of what makes films boring; does the director risk losing his audience's interest if he opts for a non-linear storytelling format that can be confusing to a viewer looking for something engaging in the story? True story: at one of the theaters in Philadelphia, a projectionist accidentally switched the third and fourth reels of Vanilla Sky while building up the print, and it played like that for five days before anyone noticed.
That's actually an interesting idea :p! I mean, David Lynch-ian stuff isn't for all tastes. I think that it depends on how experimental you want to be, but even then, that seems to be a gamble. Memento, Donnie Darko, and Fight Club have good-sized followings, whereas Mulholland Drive, with the exception of its famously steamy sex scene, is generally a puzzle for hardcore film geeks (If you can't get into Drive, by the way, it's hard to blame you. It's a real head-scratcher only for a very select set of tastes.) Sorry for the fixation on Drive, it's just the first thing that came to mind.
OT: Has anyone seen the hilarious "Mulholland Drive Support Group" video?
A lot of people have mentioned slowly-paced classics as "boring" films. I don't necessarily think a slowly-paced film makes a film dull.
It doesn't.
Measured pacing can actually make a film exciting if done right (see The Works of Alfred Hitchcock).
It's all relative. The first hour of Aliens and Jaws don't show their monsters at all, take their time, and tense like a tightrope before they cut loose in their incredible second halves. I don't think that films could get away with that today sometimes. And their first halves aren't just padding, but important narratively, a basis for the action to grow from.
And I am generally much less offended by a dull movie than one that doesn't make any sense, or has plot developments that defy all logic or standards of normal human behavior. Nor do I think jump-cut editing is always bad; the shower scene from Hitchcock's Psycho runs less than 40 seconds and is comprised of 85 separate cuts, and it is one of the most brilliant pieces of filmmaking ever.
The point is the way in which it is utilized. Peckinpah has cuts in the final set piece in The Wild Bunch that only last a few frames. The point is context, IMO. Peckinpah's characters, Scorsese's characters, they communicate through violence. It's part of the characters, and so are the sequences. An "action" film should be driven by the actions of the characters. It's not how things are shot up (as in many of today's "ooh-ah" scenes), but why. Why is this action sequence happening? What is the intention of the characters in it? Most of the "grammar," for the modern action film, so to speak, comes most probably from Kurosawa's Seven Samurai: slow motion, fast cuts, splashing water, splashes of blood, raw viscera. Even when no one is swinging swords, firing guns, and running, the film feels dynamic. It feels alive. Something is always happening, the film is, to me, compelling. Violence and action are just like the grimness of the Miller/Moore comics in the 80s later imitated likewise by less talented people. It's a value that they market by itself, but by itself, violence and darkness are pointless. A pornography of sorts, something to shock and excite.
King Kong, Superman Returns and the first Pirates of the Caribbean film were all very good 2-hour movies. The problem is, they are three-hour movies! Hollywood seems to have forgotten the magic of judicious editing.
Indeed. I think that a lot of it has to do with the meat of the story. Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur, Seven Samurai, GoodFellas, The Godfather I and II, these films can sustain their lengths. They are about characters and ideas. Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers about flashy gimmicks, which is fine, but that's not enough substance to sustain a three-hour film. Every now and then, someone will fuse the two to varying effect.
Personally, I consider it to be one of the most brilliant plot twists in the history of film.
Are you a fan of Kurosawa, out of curiousity?
All of Kurosawa's films are languidly-paced.
Most of the time it works to create mood (Stray Dog, Yojimbo, Throne of Blood)
Or the size of the story (Seven Samurai). But Kurosawa's love of mood is different from people who use it more ethereally like Terence Malick or Wong Kar Wai, IMO. Kurosawa is interested, I think in the place, and in the "mood" in the sense of the tone of the story, like Yojimbo's blackly funny cynicism. But maybe I'm way off and should just shut up :p.
but in other films it simply feels like filler (Rashomon, Hidden Fortress).
I'd have to disagree completely. Rashomon is one of Kurosawa's shortest pictures, and a model of economy, but leaves you more to think about than many longer films.
Movie06
05-18-2008, 05:00 PM
The action sequences in the last hour of Titanic are incredible, you just have to sit through the first two hours of Danielle Steele to get to it. Aesthetically, Titanic is a magnificent film, the likes of which is seldom seen today in cinema, full of brilliantly lit cinematography not seen since the Golden Age of Hollywood, breathtaking production design, and masterful special effects. Narratively...well, let's not go there.
I'm sorry but I wasn't impressed and I'm still not impressed with Titanic. I was only watching Titanic for chaos in the sinking ship like The Posiedon Adventure. And all Titanic had was just two making out on a boat. I never cared for those two people in love-type characters anyway. Then again, I'm not big on romance. Actually, I dispise romantic films and the genre in general.
The point is, I don't see the point everything in that film bored me and never impressed me either. Not even the action sequences.
Sorry, I always go into rant mode at anytime.
JRP82190
05-18-2008, 05:08 PM
Star wars episode 1 took me two days to finish watching that
DarthGonzo
05-18-2008, 05:37 PM
I'm sorry but I wasn't impressed and I'm still not impressed with Titanic. I was only watching Titanic for chaos in the sinking ship like The Posiedon Adventure. And all Titanic had was just two making out on a boat. I never cared for those two people in love-type characters anyway. Then again, I'm not big on romance. Actually, I dispise romantic films and the genre in general.
The point is, I don't see the point everything in that film bored me and never impressed me either. Not even the action sequences.
Sorry, I always go into rant mode at anytime.
I'm asking because I'm genuinely curious. How old are you?
It could very well be that you don't like this film because your too young to appreciate it. Perhaps as you get older your tastes will change and develop and you might just understand the appeal of a movie like Titanic. Considering the insane box office it got AND the critical response the film must have been doing something right.
Movie06
05-18-2008, 05:39 PM
I'm asking because I'm genuinely curious. How old are you?
It could very well be that you don't like this film because your too young to appreciate it. Perhaps as you get older your tastes will change and develop and you might just understand the appeal of a movie like Titanic. Considering the insane box office it got AND the critical response the film must have been doing something right.
I'm 17. And I doubt my taste in film will change to be honest. And even if I do get older, I'll never understand the appeal of Titanic. I mean, like I said, I hate the romance genre. I hate it alot.
DarthGonzo
05-18-2008, 05:43 PM
I'm 17. And I doubt my taste in film will change to be honest.
Things change. I hated a lot of things with an absolute seething passion when I was a teenager. But you grow older, you gain new perspectives on certain things and you suddenly surprise yourself with the things you end up liking that you never would have liked before.
Why do you despise an entire genre of film, btw? And if I may ask, what are your favorite films made before the mid 1970s?
Movie06
05-18-2008, 05:46 PM
Things change. I hated a lot of things with an absolute seething passion when I was a teenager. But you grow older, you gain new perspectives on certain things and you suddenly surprise yourself with the things you end up liking that you never would have liked before.
Why do you despise an entire genre of film, btw? And if I may ask, what are you favorite films made before the mid 1970s?
Like I said, I doubt I'll change my taste in films. I'll probably be 60 years old in the near future still enjoying The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Kiki's Delivery Service and Back to the Future.
And I happen to like the Hitchcock films, The Poseidon Adventure, the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Peeping Tom.
Temple Fugate
05-18-2008, 05:47 PM
I'm 17. And I doubt my taste in film will change to be honest. And even if I do get older, I'll never understand the appeal of Titanic. I mean, like I said, I hate the romance genre. I hate it alot.I LOOOVE the disaster genre, and dislike the romance genre, and Titanic is a bit of both. Fortunately, I found a solution with my family's copy of the two-VHS edition that came out way back in 1998. Just take the first VHS and throw it in the trash. Problem solved!
Like I said, I doubt I'll change my taste in films. I'll probably be 60 years old in the near future still enjoying The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Kiki's Delivery Service and Back to the Future.
And I happen to like the Hitchcock films, The Poseidon Adventure, the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Peeping Tom.It's not like all of your tastes are going to invert themselves. They're subtle changes that happen before you even realize it. I'm only 25 and I've found a remarkable difference between what I liked at 17 and what I like now. Of course there are a lot of things I still like, but there are plenty that I no longer like, and plenty that I found a new appreciation for. I guarantee you will have a similar experience.
Desensitized
05-18-2008, 05:48 PM
I loved the part of Titanic where the ship sank. That was extremely well done. The problem with the movie is the almost 2 hour build up to that moment.
I LOOOVE the disaster genre, and dislike the romance genre, and Titanic is a bit of both. Fortunately, for those with the two-VHS edition that came out way back in 1998, I have a solution! Just take the first VHS and throw it in the trash. Problem solved!I loved that second tape. Didn't even bother with the first one after the first viewing.
Movie06
05-18-2008, 05:50 PM
I LOOOVE the disaster genre, and dislike the romance genre, and Titanic is a bit of both. Fortunately, I found a solution with my family's copy of the two-VHS edition that came out way back in 1998. Just take the first VHS and throw it in the trash. Problem solved!
My sister used to own the Two-VHS edition. As soon as she went past her "Leo" phase, I finally did what I always wanted to do that movie. Throw it in the trash. Although I wished that I blew it up.
JRP82190
05-18-2008, 06:43 PM
I'm 17. And I doubt my taste in film will change to be honest. And even if I do get older, I'll never understand the appeal of Titanic. I mean, like I said, I hate the romance genre. I hate it alot.
same here except I'm more indifferent towards the romantic genera the way i see it a good movie's a good movie doesn't matter what kind it is
FightingDreamer
05-18-2008, 06:59 PM
I'm 17. And I doubt my taste in film will change to be honest. And even if I do get older, I'll never understand the appeal of Titanic. I mean, like I said, I hate the romance genre. I hate it alot.
Heck, I'm 18 and I love a good romance myself, but it has to be two things: subtle, and believable. You have to give me reasons why two characters are falling in love, instead of just presenting it because the script says so.
Movie06
05-18-2008, 07:11 PM
Heck, I'm 18 and I love a good romance myself, but it has to be two things: subtle, and believable. You have to give me reasons why two characters are falling in love, instead of just presenting it because the script says so.
That's the problem I have with Titanic. The romance wasn't believable, it felt forced and was too "mushy, mushy" for me.
GregX
05-18-2008, 07:39 PM
That's the problem I have with Titanic. The romance wasn't believable, it felt forced and was too "mushy, mushy" for me.
You know what my favorite love story in recent film history is? Bill and the Bride in "Kill Bill". That was so beautiful... and dysfunctional... and offensive. :evil:
Movie06
05-18-2008, 07:44 PM
You know what my favorite love story in recent film history is? Bill and the Bride in "Kill Bill". That was so beautiful... and dysfunctional... and offensive. :evil:
Well, at least the romance in Kill Bill wasn't exactly romantic.
Hanshotfirst113
05-18-2008, 07:45 PM
I'm sorry but I wasn't impressed and I'm still not impressed with Titanic. I was only watching Titanic for chaos in the sinking ship like The Posiedon Adventure. And all Titanic had was just people two making out on a boat.
Did you watch Titanic in its entirety? Because if you actually sit and watch the whole film, the ending is full hour of some the most spectacular scenes of action and destruction ever filmed, culminating in the destruction of an entire boat.
Actually, I despise romantic films and the genre in general.
Despising an entire genre is pretty foolish, IMO. It'd be like if I hated all horror films because I saw some piece of garbage like a Friday the 13th sequel and completely ignored the many brilliant films that it's peppered with. And if you dislike romances, why did you rent Titanic?
It could very well be that you don't like this film because you're too young to appreciate it.
Oh, I don't know. It's a pretty adolescent, wish-fulfillment, Danielle Steel/Dawson's Creek-esque romance. Not that that's a bad thing or anything if that's what you like, but I don't think that Titanic is exactly a mature romance.
Considering the insane box office it got AND the critical response the film must have been doing something right.
Simple: mass appeal. Romance for the gals, destruction for the guys, aesthetic perfection for the critics.
I mean, like I said, I hate the romance genre. I hate it alot.
Hating an entire genre is so foolish, again, IMO. I mean, what I hate sci-fi films? What if I hated action movies? What if I hate fantasy film, horror films, dramas, anything? It'd be ridiculous. Genres are way too broad.
Things change. I hated a lot of things with an absolute seething passion when I was a teenager. But you grow older, you gain new perspectives on certain things and you suddenly surprise yourself with the things you end up liking that you never would have liked before.
Quite so, at at a mere 20 years of age (21 next month!), I find new ways of looking at things pretty much everyday. I so hate stereotypes about age, but there's probably more to them then I'd like to admit.
I LOOOVE the disaster genre, and dislike the romance genre, and Titanic is a bit of both. Fortunately, I found a solution with my family's copy of the two-VHS edition that came out way back in 1998. Just take the first VHS and throw it in the trash. Problem solved!
Or use the DVD. God bless chapter stop menus :D!
It's not like all of your tastes are going to invert themselves. They're subtle changes that happen before you even realize it. I'm only 25 and I've found a remarkable difference between what I liked at 17 and what I like now. Of course there are a lot of things I still like, but there are plenty that I no longer like, and plenty that I found a new appreciation for. I guarantee you will have a similar experience.
It's called "living." I mean seriously, life has a way of doing that to you.
I loved the part of Titanic where the ship sank. That was extremely well done. The problem with the movie is the almost 2 hour build up to that moment.
I loved that second tape. Didn't even bother with the first one after the first viewing.
Quite so. The set pieces are awe-inspiring, but watch out for the scenes with people talking to each other.
My sister used to own the Two-VHS edition. As soon as she went past her "Leo" phase, I finally did what I always wanted to do that movie. Throw it in the trash. Although I wished that I blew it up.
Really, man, relax. There's some deep-seated bitterness here that needs to be investigated :p.
Heck, I'm 18 and I love a good romance myself, but it has to be two things: subtle, and believable. You have to give me reasons why two characters are falling in love, instead of just presenting it because the script says so.
Out of curiosity, Ever seen Wong Kar Wai's In the Mood for Love?
Movie06
05-18-2008, 07:55 PM
Did you watch Titanic in its entirety? Because if you actually sit and watch the whole film, the ending is full hour of some the most spectacular scenes of action and destruction ever filmed, culminating in the destruction of an entire boat.
I watched entirely. And when I felt bored and sleep, my sister forced me to keep on watching. And when I saw the shinking ship scenes, I was disappointed by what I saw. It didn't felt incredible as some people say it is.
And if you dislike romances, why did you rent Titanic?
My sister forced me to watch it.
Quite so, at at a mere 20 years of age (21 next month!), I find new ways of looking at things pretty much everyday.
But that's just you. As I said, my taste in films will probably never change.
Quite so. The set pieces are awe-inspiring, but watch out for the scenes with people talking to each other.
I wasn't impressed by the set designs either.
Ragebot
05-18-2008, 08:32 PM
I wasn't impressed by the set designs either.
Oh, go take it up to the White Star Line. :anime:
I LOOOVE the disaster genre, and dislike the romance genre, and Titanic is a bit of both. Fortunately, I found a solution with my family's copy of the two-VHS edition that came out way back in 1998. Just take the first VHS and throw it in the trash. Problem solved!
And here I was thinking I was the only one who thought this exact thing.:D
Hanshotfirst113
05-18-2008, 08:39 PM
Brilliant idea. Wish that I'd thought of it :D.
SimpsonGuy100
05-18-2008, 08:55 PM
Three words:
Tales. From. Earthsea!
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Studio Ghibli's movies and Goro Miyazaki has still got some potential to be a good director and he should still be given a chance but I had to endure the longest silent moments ever with this movie and it was such a shock to my system to watch an animated movie, let alone one from Studio Ghibli, that felt so long that I just wanted it to end so quickly. Very disappointing... xP
And I know I'm going to have my faces slapped by giant fish by so many people by saying this (you never know, if I see these movies again, I might really like them now! I only saw these movies once each when I was little) but I found Lady and the Tramp and Bambi real snoozers when I was young. And I find it hard to say as I *love* Disney but those two just bored me when I was a child, don't know about now though...
Temple Fugate
05-18-2008, 09:08 PM
Well, in the interest of full disclosure, I didn't throw it in the trash. (My family would probably have kicked me out of the house.) But you can bet that second tape got a lot more play time than the first.
Did you watch Titanic in its entirety? Because if you actually sit and watch the whole film, the ending is full hour of some the most spectacular scenes of action and destruction ever filmed, culminating in the destruction of an entire boat.And even if one can't appreciate the production values of the sinking sequence, Propeller Guy still makes the whole thing worth it. :evil:
My sister forced me to watch it.Frankly, if I'm forced to watch something, I'm automatically more inclined to become bored with it, so I can't blame you there.
But that's just you. As I said, my taste in films will probably never change.Oh, they will.
They will.
Movie06
05-18-2008, 09:10 PM
And I know I'm going to have my faces slapped by giant fish by so many people by saying this (you never know, if I see these movies again, I might really like them now! I only saw these movies once each when I was little) but I found Lady and the Tramp and Bambi real snoozers when I was young.
Really? Same here. I always thought those movies those movies were boring and I still think they are.
Oh, they will.
They will.
Again, I doubt it but that's just me. Again, I'll be probably 60 years old still enjoying The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Kiki's Delivery Service, Back to the Future and Transformers.
J-man
05-18-2008, 09:12 PM
And I know I'm going to have my faces slapped by giant fish by so many people by saying this (you never know, if I see these movies again, I might really like them now! I only saw these movies once each when I was little) but I found Lady and the Tramp and Bambi real snoozers when I was young. And I find it hard to say as I *love* Disney but those two just bored me when I was a child, don't know about now though...
Prepare to be fish slapped.
DarthGonzo
05-18-2008, 09:12 PM
Really? Same here. I always thought those movies those movies were boring and I still think they are.
You'll grow to appreciate them one day. I wont say you'll necessarily like them, but I bet when you get a little older you'll understand why they're such important films.
thedanmachine
05-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Good Burger.
I crapped my pants when I heard they were making a good burger movie when i was a kid. I saw it in theatres and i remember loving it.
Then I popped it in few weeks ago and it was one of the worst, most boring movies ive ever seen. There are no redeeming qualities to it whatsoever and it is sleep inducing if youve got the volume lowered (since kel's annoying voice is so loud)
Temple Fugate
05-18-2008, 09:15 PM
This actually just reminded me of STTNG's "Darmok," an episode that I first considered to be intolerably boring. Today it's become one of my favorite episodes, because I'm now able to see just how the relationship between Dathon and Picard builds up and how Dathon's language operates. When I was a kid I just couldn't grasp that, and therefore I couldn't understand the point of the episode.
Movie06
05-18-2008, 09:22 PM
You'll grow to appreciate them one day. I wont say you'll necessarily like them, but I bet when you get a little older you'll understand why they're such important films.
I dispise Disney in general actually but let's not get to that. I'll save that rant for another thread.
DarthGonzo
05-18-2008, 11:18 PM
I dispise Disney in general actually but let's not get to that. I'll save that rant for another thread.
Honestly, I'd rather you not even bother with something like that.
Desensitized
05-18-2008, 11:42 PM
I think tastes in film can change. I thought Raiders was insanely boring as a kid, but then I wasn't used to movies like that at the time. Now I love it.
On another note, Alien scared the living hell out of me. It made me hate horror movies for years. But then I eventually got over it, and now I love a good horror film. (NOT slasher films though, I still hate those... For obvious reasons)
Daikun
05-19-2008, 02:55 AM
Revenge of the Sith bored me more than any other Star Wars film. Even episodes 1 and 2 had their moments. The Phantom Menace had the pod race and Darth Maul's double lightsaber duel. Attack of the Clones had Yoda doing more than sitting around. RotS had no memorable moments for me. The first 20 minutes were a borefest, and the promises we were given in the trailer were either cut short or unsatisfying. The Wookie army battle? Cut down to 10 seconds. General Grievous? I know that he was severely weakened near the end of Clone Wars (Genndy's version), but did they really have to make him slow as molasses? Let's hope they make him the badass he once was in the new series.
Movie06
05-19-2008, 03:05 AM
I think tastes in film can change. I thought Raiders was insanely boring as a kid, but then I wasn't used to movies like that at the time. Now I love it.
On another note, Alien scared the living hell out of me. It made me hate horror movies for years. But then I eventually got over it, and now I love a good horror film. (NOT slasher films though, I still hate those... For obvious reasons)
For you, yes. But I have always sticked with Horror, Anime, Comedy, Action, Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Drama since the age of seven.
But ok, you guys are almost right. I used to like Disney films but I began to dispise them at the age of 6.
Hanshotfirst113
05-19-2008, 04:32 PM
I don't think that any movie has ever bored me more than the Jerry Bruckheimer-produced Gone in 60 Seconds remake (Seriously, Mr. Bruckheimer, car thieves. Driving really fast. How can you make a concept like this boring? How? If there is one thing that you know how to do, it's blow stuff up! The original movie at least had spectacular 45-chase finale. What did yours have? A pathetic excuse for a chase, that's what. All the CGI of modern moviemaking, and this is all I get?), though with the exception of the city-smashing finale, I was constantly checking my watch during Bay's Transformers.
I despise Disney in general actually but let's not get to that. I'll save that rant for another thread.
How about not?
Honestly, I'd rather you not even bother with something like that.
I will second this.
Wonderwall
05-19-2008, 05:18 PM
I think Mr Garrison said it best about the movie Contact.
"Ugh...waited 3 hours to find out the alien was her damn father."
Terrible movie.
Azrael24
05-19-2008, 05:29 PM
Hulk
King Kong (it was good but...)
Spider-Man 1, 2 , 3 (i love the first too but...)
Star Wars 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (again, love the last 3 but...)
Darklordavaitor
05-19-2008, 06:52 PM
My bombshell towards the anime nerds:
Princess Mononoke
JRP82190
05-19-2008, 07:43 PM
Hulk
King Kong (it was good but...)
Spider-Man 1, 2 , 3 (i love the first too but...)
Star Wars 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (again, love the last 3 but...)
But What?
Golgo13
05-19-2008, 08:05 PM
Last Days
Gus Van Sant is an okay director, but he needs to know when to END THE FREAKING SHOT!
mookie75
05-19-2008, 09:51 PM
But ok, you guys are almost right. I used to like Disney films but I began to dispise them at the age of 6.
Despising Disney films at age 6? It seems a little odd to be consciously despising anything at age 6.
Be sure you save some of that pent up rage so you can use it someday for things that actually matter.
As for your belief that you'll still love the same movies when you're in some nursing home somewhere, I can only say this. There are many, many truths in the universe. Two of them, however, pertain to this discussion. One, is that a 17 year old's tastes will change with age. The other, is that a 17 year old will never believe that his/her tastes will change with age. :p
You haven't arrived, my friend. From my perspective, you've barely even begun the journey. (Not that I'm some ancient guru or anything....)
Elven Moon
05-19-2008, 10:30 PM
Must Love Dogs - Not so much boring as I really didn't like it - it was actually painful to sit through, and one of the rare instances where I wanted to get up and leave the theater :yawn:
POTC 2 and 3 - They just... dragged on forever, and the original "goofy fun" of the first film was greatly missed. I'm glad I didn't see these at the cinema - at one point I was so bored I left the room to do other things and came back later ;)
savedbythebell
05-19-2008, 10:42 PM
Inland Empire - I'm a David Lynch fan but Inland Empire is too confusing and too long.
Wild Strawberries - Maybe I'll like it when I'm older.
Hukkle - It reminded me of a boring foreign version of Slacker.
4 - I didn't make it to the end.
Capote - I can't believe its not even 2 hours long, it felt like 4 hours to me.
Desensitized
05-19-2008, 11:08 PM
My bombshell towards the anime nerds:
Princess MononokeThat's not really a bombshell. The film isn't universally loved. Not even by anime fans.
I mean, I love it. My favorite Miyazaki film. But I'm well aware it's not as loved as Spirited Away or Kiki.
Ragebot
05-19-2008, 11:30 PM
Star Wars 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (again, love the last 3 but...)
But What?
All of the Star Wars films run on too long. This is more of a problem in the prequels, but even in the originals you could still find about 5-10 minutes worth of material to cut from each.
Hanshotfirst113
05-20-2008, 10:34 AM
I think Mr Garrison said it best about the movie Contact.
"Ugh...waited 3 hours to find out the alien was her damn father."
Terrible movie.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Glenn "DVD Savant" Erikson said it best:
The ne plus ultra of this 'make it personal' baloney is to be found in the obnoxious 90s feel-good Sci-Fi film Contact, where we learn that all scientific ambition is really a secondary interest; super-astronomer Jodie Foster really wants to go to the stars to make contact with her deceased Daddy. What's on the other side of the Universe? Forrest Gump. The end of that movie is so insulting, I wanted to throw things at the screen.
Now I've had the ending spoiled for me though ;).
Temple Fugate
05-20-2008, 01:27 PM
Ragebot, I'm curious to know what 5-10 minutes you would have cut from Episode V? I'm honestly just asking, I'm not putting the movie up on a pedestal or anything.
Now I've had the ending spoiled for me though ;).Now, I enjoyed the first two thirds of Contact. I'd say this is one film where the journey is what really matter in this case, not the end result. Just because the end result was lame doesn't negate all of the effort, determination, resourcefulness, etc. of Jodie Foster's character and watching her progress through the movie and the project develop, fail, and re-develop is still worth seeing at some point. You can say you had the end spoiled...well, since the ending was such an awful waste of potential from an otherwise promising film, I suppose the ending spoiled the movie for me too. At least if you see Contact now you won't be as disappointed as I was.
On the topic of "boring," yeah, Contact was pretty boring at parts, but I look back on the movie now and remember there was some really good stuff in it about human nature.
DisneyBoy
05-20-2008, 03:14 PM
The Grudge! SO! LITTLE! GOING!! ON!!!! GAAAAAAHHHHH!
+ Sarah Michelle Gellar. *snooze*
I really didn't get into Pocahontas the first time I saw it. I just thought the animation was nice, but the songs and themes and deviants were pointless and silly.
Then I watched it three more times and loved it. I don't blame other people for being bored, though. It was rather painful the first time around.
JRP82190
05-20-2008, 03:48 PM
The goonies hate the movie it drags on from start to finish
Ragebot
05-20-2008, 05:26 PM
Ragebot, I'm curious to know what 5-10 minutes you would have cut from Episode V? I'm honestly just asking, I'm not putting the movie up on a pedestal or anything.
Luke getting captured by the Wampa. Yeah, I know that the Obi-Wan vision is important, but the sequence pretty much amounts to nothing else of conscequence.
The first two Harry Potter movies bored the heck out of me when I saw them in theaters. I haven't watched a single one since.
HG Revolution
05-20-2008, 09:03 PM
The first two Harry Potter movies bored the heck out of me when I saw them in theaters. I haven't watched a single one since.
Yet they started getting good with the third one.
Wonderwall
05-20-2008, 10:37 PM
The goonies hate the movie it drags on from start to finish
Oh dude..you have no soul:p
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.10 Copyright © 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.