The Official "The Spectacular Spider-Man" News & Discussion Thread, Part 5 (Spoilers)

[James Harvey]

Curious to see what is coming up for The Spectacular Spider-Man? Check out this thread for all the latest news and updates on the newest animated incarnation of everyone's favorite Web-Slinger!


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[Spider-Man]

Note: Discussion continued from The Official "The Spectacular Spider-Man" News & Discussion Thread (Spoilers), Part 4 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=207275).



http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/persona/t-04.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/persona/04.jpg)I pretty good design for the character actually. I am surprised she's being brought into the series so soon but I'm not complaining in any way. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Chameleon in here, too.

[Anwar]

Well, since we're getting "Gang War" in S2 they'd have to bring BC in so it may as well be sooner than later.

And since MJ isn't interested right now, Venomized Peter needs a bad girl to show his new attitude to.

Anyone seen the new IGN pictures just put up that actually show Chameleon?

[ShadowStar]

Well, since we're getting "Gang War" in S2 they'd have to bring BC in so it may as well be sooner than later.

And since MJ isn't interested right now, Venomized Peter needs a bad girl to show his new attitude to.

Anyone seen the new IGN pictures just put up that actually show Chameleon?

What's this about a gang war?

And thanks for the tip. I just looked at those pics: http://uk.media.tv.ign.com/media/890/890171/imgs_1.html

Chameleon looks very cool! Better than in Spiderman:TAS! One pic shows Black Cat with classic Spiderman, who's sporting a sinister facial expression. So I reckon she'll inadvertantly help the Chameleon with his robberies, then learn who he is and side with the real Spidey, who'll want her around to learn Chameleon's tricks.

[James Harvey]

Kids'WB! and Sony Television Entertainment has sent Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net) a batch of new The Spectacular Spider-Man images and a new interview with writer Matt Wayne about this weekend's new episode of The Spectacular Spider-Man. Click here (http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/interviews/wayne/02.php) to read the interview, and click on the thumbnails below for the hi-res images.


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[ShadowStar]

http://www.spideytv.com/

This link has spoilers on the backgrounds of Black Cat and Chameleon under their bios, including Black Cat's age and characterisation in this series.

[Shantosh9500]

Black suit Spidey looks awesome. Love the glowy eyes.

[Anwar]

I didn't see anything over BC's age, though the characterization sounds entertaining.

Anyways, I was wrong over Peter only getting the suit at the end of the episode. Looks more like halfway.

I think that scene of him with the glowing eyes is the real Peter, the black suit making it easier to prove he's really him and not Chameleon.

[ShadowStar]

I didn't see anything over BC's age, though the characterization sounds entertaining.



Her bio states that she is 19 and that Peter is 16.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Hmm... I guess I'll have to wait to see how she looks when moving but the stills of Black Cat are a bit dissapointing to me. She's not nearly as attractive in design as several of the other female characters.

[ShadowStar]

Hmm... I guess I'll have to wait to see how she looks when moving but the stills of Black Cat are a bit dissapointing to me. She's not nearly as attractive in design as several of the other female characters.

She does look younger than them when she should look older. But her design is nicer than MJ's tends to be now and then IMO.

Also, the site that must not be named has a completely different interview with Matt Wayne up, complete with a new pic of Black Cat.

[jph139]

You know, usually, I don't like the lines on the Symbiote Suit - it always seemed much sleeker without it. But they look good this time around. Good enough to be my first avatar on the site. :D

[Reg]

There's a 3 year age difference between Spidey and Cat. Interesting. And Spidey is smitten with her. Heh. He really is in love with whatever girl is in front of him. :sweat:

[Rud]

well, shes a hot blond whos bio sais that is "flirty and amoral", so naturaly any 16 year old would be smitten.

[Anwar]

Even better, a PLATINUM blonde...

Plus I'm sure the black bodysuit doesn't hurt.

[Captain Highwind]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/persona/t-07.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/persona/07.jpg)

Hey, he glows in the dark.

EDIT: And it's already been stated I see.

[Rud]

seriously, the glowing eyes are a nice touch, i hope venom has that too.

[Aldrius]

Bleh. The lines still bother me.

Why are they necessary? Especially when you can hardly see them. He looks so much sleeker and sexier without them.

[Anwar]

To show that the symbiote is simply altering the colors of his existing suit instead of inexplicably becoming a totally new design.

[Aldrius]

Aesthetics>Logic.

At least in my opinion.

[Captain Highwind]

Aesthetics>Logic.

At least in my opinion.

But the suit progresses into the comic book version as you can see here:


http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/PJBoySv/Persona3Av100.gif

Everybody wins.

[Aldrius]

Except for the poor animators, who had to design two different models just to keep the fans happy. =(

[Anwar]

The only difference between the two being that one doesn't require lines on it? Doesn't sound THAT hard.

Anyways, I think that fast leaping pic of him just goes too fast for us to see the lines, but they're there.

[Captain Highwind]

Except for the poor animators, who had to design two different models just to keep the fans happy. =(

Think of it as two (?) episodes out of the series where the animators won't have to draw the web lines.


Anyways, I think that fast leaping pic of him just goes too fast for us to see the lines, but they're there.

You can't see any web lines at all, but I was going by the giant spider emblem across his chest to know that the suit changes.

[Anwar]

The emblem doesn't look much bigger to me, it's just an optical illusion from him swinging close in so fast.

[W.C.Reaf]

Food for thought:

Since this week’s episode is about the Chameleon impersonating Spider-Man and committing crimes as him wouldn't that mean they'll be going with something new, and/or different, for the first Mysterio story?

[Anwar]

Framing Spidey for crimes to give Jameson ammo against him? Sounds kind of like "The Alien Costume" only it's Chameleon instead of Brock and Rhino.

[GregX]

Framing Spidey for crimes to give Jameson ammo against him? Sounds kind of like "The Alien Costume" only it's Chameleon instead of Brock and Rhino.

Framing Spidey is a plot line that's happened over two decades before that alien costume was even thought of.

[bigdeath]

Framing Spidey is a plot line that's happened over two decades before that alien costume was even thought of.

Framing Spidey is as natural and reoccuring in the comics as the sun rising ever day. :p

[Rud]

Framing Spidey is as natural and reoccuring in the comics as the sun rising ever day. :p

its funny how almost everyone always beleaves Spiderman is guilty every freeking time, its like nobody ever learns, even the other marvel heroes, its like every time Spiderman suposedly "goes rouge" ever superhero hes ever come in contact with is all over his ass withought even giving the benefit of the doubt.

[Anwar]

Framing Spidey is a plot line that's happened over two decades before that alien costume was even thought of.

Yeah I know, but it seems to happen in every take on the Symbiote story (except ultimate)

SM3: Brock frames Spidey, though this lasts like 5 minutes.

TAS: Brock frames Spidey, which makes him mad enough for the suit to control him better.

SSM: Chameleon frames Spidey.


I suppose framing him is the best way to make Peter mad enough the suit gets to him.

In SSM's case, Weisman is combining the symbiote story with one of the early Spidey stories where Chameleon framed Spidey.

TAS did a similar thing where they combined ASM1 (where Spidey saved John) with the symbiote story.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

I hope the alien doesn't eat Spidey's suit here as usual, it saddens me to see Pete losing clothes

[ShadowStar]

Food for thought:

Since this week’s episode is about the Chameleon impersonating Spider-Man and committing crimes as him wouldn't that mean they'll be going with something new, and/or different, for the first Mysterio story?

Well, Mysterio's alter ego (Quinten Beck) is going to have a cameo in "Persona".

[theRedDeath]

But the suit progresses into the comic book version as you can see here:

Everybody wins.

The suit doesn't change into the comic book version. Your eyes are blurring his armpit webbing with the chest symbol. It stays as the "movie-inspired" version the whole way through.

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[Captain Highwind]

The suit doesn't change into the comic book version. Your eyes are blurring his armpit webbing with the chest symbol. It stays as the "movie-inspired" version the whole way through.

---

I noticed. And that sucks. But I'm still holding out hope.

[W.C.Reaf]

I hope the alien doesn't eat Spidey's suit here as usual, it saddens me to see Pete losing clothes

I don't think it's ever "eaten" his clothes. In the comics he could take it off before the bell tower incident, so he shouldn't have anything on under the suit there (except underwear obviously). Same deal with the movie. In SMTAS the suit went on him while he was in bed and not in costume and he couldn't take it off after that so it would make sense that he’d only be left with his sleep wear after that.

Whether SSM does this or not remains to be seen.

[Anwar]

In the movie and TAS it ate his clothes. It ate the Spidey suit he was wearing in SM3 and apparently he was naked after the suit left him to is took the underwear he was wearing too.

In TAS it ate his pajamas and left him boxers for some reason (he wears boxers under his PJs?).

[ShadowStar]

I wonder what the circumstances will be for the formation of the Sinister Six in "Group Therapy".

[Wonderwall]

In TAS it ate his pajamas and left him boxers for some reason (he wears boxers under his PJs?).

Its what I do, I wasn't aware that was weird:confused:


I wonder what the circumstances will be for the formation of the Sinister Six in "Group Therapy".

While the specifics will be different, Im sure at its core the circumstances will be the fact all 6 were taken down by Spider Man. Common enemy that they couldn't take down by themselves, but as a group, logically they should beat him.

[Rud]

I realy dont like how Phineas Mason actualy got caught in the last episode, in the comics doesnt he never ever get brought to justice, ever. That was one of the cool things abot him.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

Spider-Man will become Venom for a few minutes before getting rid of the alien. That will happen if Weissman and co. followed the stages from "Ultimate Spider-Man"

[Anwar]

...Which they don't have to.

They could just go for what TAS did, which was have him look in the mirror and see Venom for a few seconds.

[Batman]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see .

[Rud]

is there a new episode this tommorow?

[D Dubbs]

is there a new episode this tommorow?

Nope, just two reruns.

[batsy2]

ladies and gentlemen i give THE SINISTER SIX a preview on the cw4k is up now
http://www.cw4kids.com/home

[Anwar]

Is the ticket-counter person supposed to be MJ?

[batsy2]

Is the ticket-counter person supposed to be MJ?
ni idea but aunt may and anna watson are behind spidey

[Captain Highwind]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s97/Mr_Highwind/booyah.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s97/Mr_Highwind/2.jpg

:D :D :D :D

[CartoonOverlord]

The Sinister Six so soon? I was thinking they could least be saved until the second season finale. Hm, that's my only worry with the show, that it rushes things too quickly.

[batsy2]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s97/Mr_Highwind/booyah.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s97/Mr_Highwind/2.jpg

:D :D :D :D

how did you manage to capture those pictures

[ShadowStar]

ladies and gentlemen i give THE SINISTER SIX a preview on the cw4k is up now
http://www.cw4kids.com/home

The link doesn't work for me. What does the preview show? Give details please. :D

[CartoonOverlord]

The link doesn't work for me. What does the preview show? Give details please. :DThis version of the Sinister Six includes Electro, Rhino, Shocker, Vulture, Sandman, and Doc Ock. There's really nothing else in the video besides the Six of them togther and Spidey stuttering in shock.

[D Dubbs]

how did you manage to capture those pictures

Use the "Print Screen" key on your keyboard, then open the program Paint, and select "Paste" from the options bar.

[Reg]

Nice promo. And the spider on the chest is getting bigger. Nice.

[batsy2]

Use the "Print Screen" key on your keyboard, then open the program Paint, and select "Paste" from the options bar.

how does that work again i tried pressing it but it won't do anything is there somthing missing

[GregX]

The Sinister Six so soon? I was thinking they could least be saved until the second season finale. Hm, that's my only worry with the show, that it rushes things too quickly.

Why does everyone keep saying this? Ever read Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's comics?

[Miyamoto Musashi]

The sinister six is wrong to be done in less than two episodes, because it'll have a rushed ending and it'll definitely be less interesting (I guess).

The "Spider-Logo" change makes me more certain that "Venom" for this show will be Peter (Or he'll be Venom temporarily before Eddie wears the alien; that of course, if he wears it)

[GregX]

The sinister six is wrong to be done in less than two episodes, because it'll have a rushed ending and it'll definitely be less interesting (I guess).

The "Spider-Logo" change makes me more certain that "Venom" for this show will be Peter (Or he'll be Venom temporarily before Eddie wears the alien; that of course, if he wears it)

If Greg Weisman put them in a single episode then trust me, he knows what he's doing.

[StellaMagic]

I love the part in the preview where he goes "hamana hamana hamana". I'd be scared too if I had to take on six bullies at once. I can't wait to see the Vulture again. I wonder how he'll react to seeing Otto again.

[warnerbroman]

how does that work again i tried pressing it but it won't do anything is there somthing missing hen you press the button it backy copyed the you got to a program and press paste

I don't need it as I have vista's snipping tool


I wonder what will happen when doc ock and vulture meet?

[ShadowStar]

I love the part in the preview where he goes "hamana hamana hamana". I'd be scared too if I had to take on six bullies at once.

Isn't that what they say in cartoons when they're in love? :p

[Manhunter]

I wonder if they'll actually be referred to as the Sinister Six. Maybe JJJ will coin the name in a headline.

[Reg]

I love the Sinister Six. The coming of this ep makes me want to go back and read ASM Annual #1 again. In fact I'm going to do just that. :D

[sdp]

I'd like to see spidey's suit get more ripped and "fixed" by I don't know if you guys noticed it in the black cat episode.


If Greg Weisman put them in a single episode then trust me, he knows what he's doing.

He's got a point though, you make it sound like his concern is irrelevant just because its Weisman..he isn't god..

[Casey Mack]

Why does everyone keep saying this? Ever read Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's comics?

But dude, this show has taken major liberties with original comics. I for one think he should not be, but he has the right to be. Asking someone that question, when you damn well know on this show Liz is spanish and Ned Leads is asian, eddie Brock is an old pal of Peters, Doc Ock was some little nerd,Tombstone is a kingpin like crime boss,Harry was the goblin before his daddy allegedly, Peter knows people he souldn't know till college, and the list of changes goes on and on. Asking someone "Ever read stan lee and steve ditko comics" is idiotic.:sad:

[Miyamoto Musashi]

Since Kraven and Mysterio are yet to be introduced as super villains, two other guys took their positions:
Rhino &........Shocker????

[CartoonOverlord]

Since Kraven and Mysterio are yet to be introduced as super villains, two other guys took their positions:
Rhino &........Shocker????Mysterio is already in the show, well at least Quentin Beck is. He appeared last episode working alongside The Chameleon and The Tinkerer.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

Mysterio is already in the show, well at least Quentin Beck is.I said as "SUPER VILLAINS"

[CartoonOverlord]

I said as "SUPER VILLAINS"Sorry, I thought you meant as in general.

[GregX]

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He's got a point though, you make it sound like his concern is irrelevant just because its Weisman..he isn't god..

Well, so far the man has an excellent track record. He hasn't produced a stinker yet.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

};2877881']
He's got a point though, you make it sound like his concern is irrelevant just because its Weisman..he isn't god..

...He...he's not...D:?

[GregX]

...He...he's not...D:?

I eat lunch with the man about once a month... trust me, he's not a god. ;)

[Harlan_Phoenix]

I eat lunch with the man about once a month... trust me, he's not a god. ;)

Let me have my cheeky responses that jokingly indicate a dream! I AM BUT A MAN! I AM BUT A MAN.

But, yeah, I'm not too worried about the Sinister Six episode, either. The characters have already been developed well enough, and I'm sure Weisman could pull off throwing them together to the point where it doesn't feel rushed or crammed in or whatever term one would prefer.

I'll just sit back and wait for it to air.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Well, anybody with a decent amount of thinking and time can put together a story on the level that this show presents.

[GregX]

Well, anybody with a decent amount of thinking and time can put together a story on the level that this show presents.

Huh... please clarify this statement. Because "anybody" could not do it. I doubt the dumb ass who stocks the shelves at Wal-Mart, then goes home and gets drunk every night could do it.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Anybody who puts their mind to it could probably very well do such a thing. It only depends on their drive. I used to be terrible when I wrote the plot outlines for my glorified fan fiction novels but I had the drive to continually rethink and improve my ideas.

Then again, maybe I just find myself seeing humanities potential far easier to tap then another man might do.

[GregX]

Anybody who puts their mind to it could probably very well do such a thing. It only depends on their drive. I used to be terrible when I wrote the plot outlines for my glorified fan fiction novels but I had the drive to continually rethink and improve my ideas.

Then again, maybe I just find myself seeing humanities potential far easier to tap then another man might do.

Again, I disagree. Some people have gifts that others don't. For example, try as I might, and I spent years trying. I have no musical talent. None, whatsoever, and I did try.

But, honestly, I don't think just anyone can write a great series.

Could you have come up with the Theory of Relativity? I know I couldn't.

[The Overlord]

Anybody who puts their mind to it could probably very well do such a thing. It only depends on their drive. I used to be terrible when I wrote the plot outlines for my glorified fan fiction novels but I had the drive to continually rethink and improve my ideas.

Then again, maybe I just find myself seeing humanities potential far easier to tap then another man might do.

There is a difference between writing fan fiction and writing a successful TV show.

I mean not everyone in the world is a good writer, I mean compare Ed Brubaker and Chuck Austin for a sec, one can write good comics, while the other cannot. Its that simple.

[warnerbroman]

Well, so far the man has an excellent track record. He hasn't produced a stinker yet. the batman's "the big chill"

[GregX]

the batman's "the big chill"

Work for hire. He was handed an outline, told to write it, and he did. He did not produce it. He did not create that story, he was a hired gun.

And you'll notice I used the word "produce."

[warnerbroman]

Work for hire. He was handed an outline, told to write it, and he did. He did not produce it. He did not create that story, he was a hired gun." did not know that

[Aldrius]

Hmm... are we sure it's one episode for the Sinister Six? We don't know too much about next week except that he loses the suit, right?

Either way, I'm sure they can tell the plotline in one episode.

Act One, everyone breaks out. Stuff is going on in Peter's life that parallels the Sinister Six. (Sally and Flash join forces? I don't know.)
Act Two, Peter fights them, can't really do it.
Act Three, Peter does something really morally questionable to beat them all or he fools them into turning on eachother. And then either a happy or very dark ending happens.


It wouldn't be too hard a story to tell, the hard part is getting into all the subtelties of the villains' relationships with eachother (and their overall goals as well, seriously, what common goal could these six bad guys have?). But maybe that's why Rhino, Sandman (and Shocker?), and, Vulture and Dr. Octopus already have relationships. To cut down on the build-up. And then Electro as the black sheep.

We'll have to wait and see I guess.

I hardly think Greg is the be all, end all of animation quality and writing quality. But I think he's talented, and sticking the sinister six into supposedly only one episode isn't going to change my mind.

[GregX]

I hardly think Greg is the be all, end all of animation quality and writing quality. But I think he's talented, and sticking the sinister six into supposedly only one episode isn't going to change my mind.

I'd say that he and Bruce Timm are the top two talents in the animation field.

[Wonderwall]

I'd say that he and Bruce Timm are the top two talents in the animation field.

I'd probably add Lasserter and Bird to that list as well. I think the Sinister Six in one episode wouldn't be too bad. Their first appearance was in one comic, and it's a good read. Sometimes adding another episode doesn't help.

[Anwar]

Work for hire. He was handed an outline, told to write it, and he did. He did not produce it. He did not create that story, he was a hired gun.

And you'll notice I used the word "produce."

The "Big Chill" was a no-win scenario anyways. They could either make Freeze sympathetic like in TAS and be slammed for copying B:TAS, or they could make him unsympathetic and be slammed for not being like B:TAS.

[Alex Weitzman]

I'd probably add Lasserter and Bird to that list as well.

I'm fairly certain GregX means television animation.

Of course, Weisman and Timm would undoubtedly have to be joined on that list by Groening, DeMartino/Konietzko, Ruegger, and many more.

[Reg]

I eat lunch with the man about once a month... trust me, he's not a god. ;)


You ever try to get spoilers out of the man? :evil:

[screw on head]

Here's a friendly reminded that this is The Official News and Discussion Thread for "The Spectacular Spider-Man."

I'm very jazzed for this Sinister Six episode. It'll be interesting to see how all the villains interact with eachother!

[W.C.Reaf]

Well, anybody with a decent amount of thinking and time can put together a story on the level that this show presents.

Then why, pray tell, have we not seen a Spidey cartoon of this calibre before?


the batman's "the big chill"

That episode was actually well written IMO. It's just that the producers said "we can't have Freeze be a sympathetic character in case people start comparing the show to Timm's show. So let’s make him a one-dimensional thug."

That's what Weisman had to do because that's what he was paid to do.

While I think he has made some mistakes, but he's only human. He is one of the top writers in animation because of his excellent planning and 3-dimensional characters.

[warnerbroman]

I eat lunch with the man about once a month... trust me, he's not a god. ;)
I think you are him *pulls mask* Greg!

nice try have part of your name as a username to ironically throw us off, ha! but I see through the ruse *laughs insanely*

now I still wonder how octopus and vulture will react to each other

[GregX]

I think you are him *pulls mask* Greg!

nice try have part of your name as a username to ironically throw us off, ha! but I see through the ruse *laughs insanely*

LOL, close.

That's him on the left; me in the middle; and Post Production Assistant, Jennifer L. Anderson on the right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Funny%20Pictures/n687183614_767650_3033-1.jpg

[warnerbroman]

LOL, close.

That's him on the left; me in the middle; and Post Production Assistant, Jennifer L. Anderson on the right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Funny%20Pictures/n687183614_767650_3033-1.jpgok I believe you


*thinking* though since I never actually saw him before this picture dose not say much. it could be anybody but I am not insane enough to push this any further *thinking*

[creativerealms]

the batman's "the big chill"

Which was more then made up for with Rubber Face of Comedy, Clayface of Tragity, Meltdown, Strange Minds, Everywhere man and Artifacts.

When Greg does work for hire the restrictions that the creative staff put on his work and majorly effect the quality. Same thing happened to the Kim Possible Episode Queen Bebe which Greg had actually written a detailed reason for the villains return which was removed from the episode for reasons.

Greg's work tends to be of the highest quality even when he is a free lancer on a show and does an even better job when he does more then just write.

[GregX]

Which was more then made up for with Rubber Face of Comedy, Clayface of Tragity, Meltdown, Strange Minds, Everywhere man and Artifacts.

When Greg does work for hire the restrictions that the creative staff put on his work and majorly effect the quality. Same thing happened to the Kim Possible Episode Queen Bebe which Greg had actually written a detailed reason for the villains return which was removed from the episode for reasons.

Greg's work tends to be of the highest quality even when he is a free lancer on a show and does an even better job when he does more then just write.

"I like to think I'm a great boss, but a horrible employee."
- Greg Weisman

[Antiyonder]

When Greg does work for hire the restrictions that the creative staff put on his work and majorly effect the quality. Same thing happened to the Kim Possible Episode Queen Bebe which Greg had actually written a detailed reason for the villains return which was removed from the episode for reasons.

I get that the episode was redone as Greg mentioned not having the tone for the series down when he did the episode, but why remove the Bebe's return?

[creativerealms]

Well for one thing a "Musical guest star appearance" was added into that episode.

[W.C.Reaf]

I get that the episode was redone as Greg mentioned not having the tone for the series down when he did the episode, but why remove the Bebe's return?

Most likely due to time reasons. Kim Possible’s producers were never hugely concerned with continuity.

I think we'll see less high school stuff and more Spidey to fit in the Sinister Six. We'll probably see Aunt May's unknown condition worsen a bit, or get more confirmation that she has something wrong with her.

[thedanmachine]

I dont think its all that bad that the six are all being introduced and dealt with in a single ep. I think Greg has proven that he can do alot of villains justice when they are all crammed in together.

also, if you look back, despite the fact that it was an annual, the sinister six's first appearance wasnt all that long anyway. it was only 41 pages with the rest of the annual holding crappy pin up pictures and villain biographies.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

So, lesson to be learned: Don't try to think talented people are modest.

I might try to keep that in mind but I still believe the work on tSSM is more or less what the standard should be for television animation, that Team Weisman just meets a standard others don't always bother to reach for.

But I don't need to be accused of thinking little of Team Weisman, it's far to much grief.


Fitting six villians into twenty minutes is admittedly much riskier because obviously there will be those that completely fall off the charts not to mention Electro just doesn't seem like a 'villian'. GG, Ock etc. are obviously off kilter but I find that it would just come off as a little silly if all of them were 'cold blooded and merciless', espicially Electro who just sort of stumbled upon his powers. If anything he'd probably have seemed the most possible guy to just sort of calm down and begine to think about giving up crime, he never wanted to be a freak.

Would it be too much to ask for a redemption arc?

[GregX]

So, lesson to be learned: Don't try to think talented people are modest.

I might try to keep that in mind but I still believe the work on tSSM is more or less what the standard should be for television animation, that Team Weisman just meets a standard others don't always bother to reach for.

But I don't need to be accused of thinking little of Team Weisman, it's far to much grief.

Actually, he's probably one of the most down to earth people I ever met. Modest? Not really. But he's not arrogant either. He's proud.

But I know what you mean. I'm hardly modest. I think I'm talented, but we'll see. I know I'm not there yet, but I think I will be soon.

[The Overlord]

So, lesson to be learned: Don't try to think talented people are modest.

I might try to keep that in mind but I still believe the work on tSSM is more or less what the standard should be for television animation, that Team Weisman just meets a standard others don't always bother to reach for.

But I don't need to be accused of thinking little of Team Weisman, it's far to much grief.

Thatys a bit unrealistic, even in life action, there are a lot of crappy series that get made. Heck According to Jim is still on the air, does that meet anyone's standards.



Fitting six villians into twenty minutes is admittedly much riskier because obviously there will be those that completely fall off the charts not to mention Electro just doesn't seem like a 'villian'. GG, Ock etc. are obviously off kilter but I find that it would just come off as a little silly if all of them were 'cold blooded and merciless', espicially Electro who just sort of stumbled upon his powers. If anything he'd probably have seemed the most possible guy to just sort of calm down and begine to think about giving up crime, he never wanted to be a freak.

Would it be too much to ask for a redemption arc?

Electro reformed for all of 3 seconds in the comics, after Spidey talked him out of killing himself, then decided Spidey humiliated him and went back to crime. So there is no comic history of Electro reforming. Sandman reformed for about 15 years, till some idiot reversed it. Besides BTAS Mr. Freeze was sympathetic and he never really reformed.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

So...just because Electro didn't in the comics that means the show--which as far as I have seen has done it's own storylines--wouldn't do it? I thought this only applied to characters used but whatever.

[The Overlord]

So...just because Electro didn't in the comics that means the show--which as far as I have seen has done it's own storylines--wouldn't do it? I thought this only applied to characters used but whatever.

No, but it likely isn't a priority as a story arc, there are important stories to tell first.

I think this stuff with Aunt May is leading to an animated version of "The master Planner" Saga, which will take a few eps.

Edit: also, there is the fact the fact that because Ock is far more intelligent than Eelctro, he can trick Electro into working for him in the Six or just brow beat him like he does in the comics. Ock can promise to cure Max after they kill Spidey.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

also, if you look back, despite the fact that it was an annual, the sinister six's first appearance wasnt all that long anyway. it was only 41 pages.That's the major point of "Is it possible to have them all dealt with in one episode?", 41 pages is almost the double or more than the normal story told in 17-21 pages.

[James Harvey]

The CW4Kids has sent four new images from this weekend's new episode of The Spectacular Spider-Man, "Group Therapy." Click on the thumbnail below to check out all of the new hi-res images.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/grouptherapy/t-04.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=2)

Stay tuned for further updates.

[D Dubbs]

"With Electro's help, Doctor Octopus busts himself, Vulture, Sandman, Rhino and Shocker out of Ryker's Island prison to quench their mutual desire for revenge. Even with his new black alien symbiote suit, Spider-Man finds The Sinister Six are more than he can handle. Peter Parker might wish for an easier way out of this predicament … but be careful what you wish for, Pete."The last sentence has me intrigued.

I do like how they'll be focusing on how the villains get out of jail. It kinda annoys me when, in shows such as The Batman, villains just randomly escape with no explanation.

[Anwar]

Batman TAS did that a lot too.

I did find it pretty funny when they revealed in a comic story that Joker had a secret HQ DIRECTLY UNDER his Arkham cell with a TV and communicators and everything.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

The last sentence has me intrigued.

I do like how they'll be focusing on how the villains get out of jail. It kinda annoys me when, in shows such as The Batman, villains just randomly escape with no explanation.

Because other shows do no that to save more time for the story, right?

Otherwise, this sounds exciting.

[Reg]

Pics at last! Last line of that summary also has my interest peaked.

[ShadowStar]

The last part of the synopsis is very interesting. Makes you wonder if we'll see any new faces or if someone might be killed off (though that's doubtful). However, I think it has something to do with Black Cat. I still think she'll be in this episode, as it would be stupid to bring her in just in time to help out with taking down the Sinister Six only to not use her for the melee episode.

[creativerealms]

I'm guessing that Doc Ock gets Electro to help them escape by offering to find a cure for him.

[Yarharhar]

I know that last sentence of the description has some people interested, but do not forget that these episode descriptions have...embellished on some details in like every episode.

[Anwar]

I'll say, Harry was the only one who was obsessed with the football team and we didn't learn HOW obsessed until episodes later. ANd Peter most certainly did NOT get a swelled head from being with MJ at the dance.

[Kinley]

Group Therapy - 31 May
Intervention - 7 June
Nature vs. Nature - 14 June
Its cool, but when will they air Season 2 ?

[Miyamoto Musashi]

Group Therapy - 31 May
Intervention - 7 June
Nature vs. Nature - 14 June
Its cool, but when will they air Season 2 ?
I guess in a few months.
People need to learn the new channel, when will the show be aired, the frequency of the new channel.
The new channel have to accept it as well, I think it was already announced

[Anwar]

Nuts, I hope I GET the new channel. If it's on CN I won't get to see it...

[W.C.Reaf]

Group Therapy - 31 May
Intervention - 7 June
Nature vs. Nature - 14 June
Its cool, but when will they air Season 2 ?

So no more week breaks? Cool.

Season 2 will be in the fall at the earliest. I think they've got, or nearly got, all the episodes written or at least Greg indicated it in his last podcast. So the first bit is done.

[ShadowStar]

Group Therapy - 31 May
Intervention - 7 June
Nature vs. Nature - 14 June
Its cool, but when will they air Season 2 ?

When/where were the airdates for "Intervention" and "Nature vs. Nurture" confirmed?

[D Dubbs]

I guess in a few months.
People need to learn the new channel, when will the show be aired, the frequency of the new channel.
The new channel have to accept it as well, I think it was already announced

I'm pretty sure it'll stay on CW4Kids for the fall. Here's their summer schedule, starting on June 21st (new additions are italicized):

7 AM- Will & Dewitt
7:30 Magi-Nation
8 AM- Tom & Jerry Tales
8:30- Tom & Jerry Tales
9 AM- Chaotic
9:30- Spectacular Spider-Man
10 AM- Spectacular Spider-Man
10:30- TMNT: Fast Forward
11 AM- Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
11:30- The Batman

So, even with all the new additions, Spidey still gets to keep two episodes, which is a very good sign that it will stay on the network for a while longer.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

I'm pretty sure it'll stay on CW4Kids for the fall. Here's their summer schedule, starting on June 21st (new additions are italicized):

7 AM- Will & Dewitt
7:30 Magi-Nation
8 AM- Tom & Jerry Tales
8:30- Tom & Jerry Tales
9 AM- Chaotic
9:30- Spectacular Spider-Man
10 AM- Spectacular Spider-Man
10:30- TMNT: Fast Forward
11 AM- Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
11:30- The Batman

So, even with all the new additions, Spidey still gets to keep two episodes, which is a very good sign that it will stay on the network for a while longer.

Sweet! Spidey still keeps the two-episode format. Though I wish LOSH was on there. I kinda wanted to catch up on all the missed episodes.

[DarkLantern]

LOL, close.

That's him on the left; me in the middle; and Post Production Assistant, Jennifer L. Anderson on the right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Funny%20Pictures/n687183614_767650_3033-1.jpg

Okay, if you truly are the guy in the middle, then we definitely had met before.

Thanks for clinching it... "Greg."

DL

[GregX]

Okay, if you truly are the guy in the middle, then we definitely had met before.

Thanks for clinching it... "Greg."

DL

Huh?

[Aldrius]

...what the hell was that?


Batman TAS did that a lot too.Revolving door asylum, what are you gonna do?

I am intrigued by this coming up episode. I completely forget where Electro ended up at the end of his episode. Being of the Connors-constructed brand of Supervillain rather than the more common Oscorp type.

...and why is Montana wearing his cowboy hat in prison when everyone else who isn't stuck in their clothes is in prison clothes?

[DarkLantern]

Huh?

Sorry, my mistake. I confused you with someone else.

DL

[Kinley]

When/where were the airdates for "Intervention" and "Nature vs. Nurture" confirmed?
On wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spectacular_Spider-Man_episodes

[Anwar]

...what the hell was that?

Revolving door asylum, what are you gonna do?

I am intrigued by this coming up episode. I completely forget where Electro ended up at the end of his episode. Being of the Connors-constructed brand of Supervillain rather than the more common Oscorp type.

...and why is Montana wearing his cowboy hat in prison when everyone else who isn't stuck in their clothes is in prison clothes?

I think that was either file footage of Montana or something.

It's the same for Ock, that picture of him is of him pre-accident even though he's wearing a prison outfit.

[W.C.Reaf]

...and why is Montana wearing his cowboy hat in prison when everyone else who isn't stuck in their clothes is in prison clothes?

I thought that as well. It looks like a "file photo" and the others from prison since Ock and Vulture are wearing the orange jumpsuits and the other two can't wear them.

I'm not sure why they'd use a file photo. Maybe it's because he isn't Montana without his hat. ;)

[James Harvey]

The CW4Kids has sent new images from this weekend's new episode of The Spectacular Spider-Man, "Group Therapy." On top of that, a schedule for the remaining episodes and ratings for The Spectacular Spider-Man has also been provided. Click on the thumbnail below to check out all the information and the new hi-res images.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/grouptherapy/t-07.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=6)

Stay tuned for further updates.

[batsy2]

The CW4Kids has sent new images from this weekend's new episode of The Spectacular Spider-Man, "Group Therapy." On top of that, a schedule for the remaining episodes and ratings for The Spectacular Spider-Man has also been provided. Click on the thumbnail below to check out all the information and the new hi-res images.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/grouptherapy/t-07.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=6)

Stay tuned for further updates.

this is awsome we get the final 3 episodes so soon and after words we can finally get the dvds i ca'nt wait to see spidey battle the sinister six and VENOM i hope we get a good pic of him beating the crap out of spidey

[D Dubbs]

Due to the Memorial Day holiday, Nielsen ratings for this past Saturday's repeat episodes have been delayed. However, for the May 17 original episode, The Spectacular Spider-Man scored remarkable numbers in all Saturday morning broadcast network kids demographics, including the key categories of Kids 2-11 (1.8/8, topping it's nearest timeslot competition of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward's 0.9/4), Boys 2-11 (2.7/11 to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward's 1.4/5), Kids 6-11 (1.6/8 to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward's 0.9/4) and Boys 6-11 (2.3/10 toTeenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward's 1.4/6).

Uhh...Fast Forward hasn't aired since February.

Still pretty good ratings. It's not totally unexpected though, since Spectacular is the one of the few shows airing new episodes on Saturday mornings. Back when TMNT was airing new episodes, it generally tied or beat out Spectacular.

[Manhunter]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/grouptherapy/07.jpg

Wow, just...wow.

[Anwar]

I have to wonder how Electro eats if the food is fried or the liquids boil when they get close to him. IV?

Same for how Rhino poops.

I think too much about this stuff...

[Reg]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/grouptherapy/07.jpg

Wow, just...wow.

Helloooooo, wallpaper!

I wonder just how is Spidey gonna beat all six of these guys. And did Rhino take care of his sweating problem?

[batgirl2007]

Helloooooo, wallpaper!

I wonder just how is Spidey gonna beat all six of these guys. And did Rhino take care of his sweating problem?
Maybe DOc Ock the teams resident scientist found a cure for him?

[Gen200]

Maybe DOc Ock the teams resident scientist found a cure for him?

But how could he 'cure' that?

The suit is fused to his skin and it's pretty much indestructible, so how could that happen?

[Rick Jones]

Revolving door asylum, what are you gonna do?
Reminds me of the first episode when the show's main two cops were discussing how hard it is to keep the guys, that Spidey catches, locked up. I thought that was pretty funny.

[Anwar]

Yeah, I'm guessing that like how X-Men EVO had the X-Men and other mutants be the only superpowered beings of their world (so the prejudice would make more sense) in SSM Spidey is the only NYC superhero. Otherwise it'd be a tad hypocritical of the cops to complain about him but not about the Fantastic Four or stuff.

[W.C.Reaf]

Yeah, I'm guessing that like how X-Men EVO had the X-Men and other mutants be the only superpowered beings of their world (so the prejudice would make more sense) in SSM Spidey is the only NYC superhero. Otherwise it'd be a tad hypocritical of the cops to complain about him but not about the Fantastic Four or stuff.

The FF usually deals with the outer space, sciencey stuff that the cops can't deal with.

I think the problem the cops were talking about was that fact that he just drops the criminals off, or just leaves them hanging, and that leads to most of them getting off.

Because in the first ep he hadn't fought any supervillains before.

[Anwar]

And also he's only been around for a few months (debuted right before Summer I think), so much that until Peter started delivering shots some people still thought he was an urban legend.

So with the advent of supervillains and Spidey's existence being recognized I think the legal system will be willing to let his activities and apprehensions be legitimized.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

But how could he 'cure' that?

The suit is fused to his skin and it's pretty much indestructible, so how could that happen?
Spidey might find a way to melt Rhino's hide as he did in the comics.
How did Rhino get a second skin fused to him?

[Manhunter]

I have to wonder how Electro eats if the food is fried or the liquids boil when they get close to him. IV?

Same for how Rhino poops.

I think too much about this stuff...

You're not the only one who thinks about this stuff. Like Brody in "Mallrats".

There's a certain other thing that Rhino and Electro are unable to do(which I can't elaborate on here) which would probably turn a lot of guys into rampaging menaces if they were in the same boat.:D

[Kinley]

Wheee in the last episode of this Season - Mary Jane discovers Peter Parker is Spider-man

[Anwar]

Says who?

[ShadowStar]

Wheee in the last episode of this Season - Mary Jane discovers Peter Parker is Spider-man

How do you know this?

[batsy2]

How do you know this?

someone obiously has been reading stuff on wikipedia again do't trust the site until we get a full confirmation from the site that must not be named

[Kinley]

someone obiously has been reading stuff on wikipedia again do't trust the site until we get a full confirmation from the site that must not be named


Man i'm Telepatic :D

[ShadowStar]

According to the site that must not be named, when the Sinister Six next appear, there will be two villains we haven't seen yet among them. Who wants to bet that Rhino and Shocker are replaced by Mysterio and Kraven?

[batsy2]

According to the site that must not be named, when the Sinister Six next appear, there will be two villains we haven't seen yet among them. Who wants to bet that Rhino and Shocker are replaced by Mysterio and Kraven?
i'll take that bet 1 chocolate nut bar say that mysterio and kraven will replace those 2

[Goodfellow]

Does anyone know if they are actually going to stop showing new ones after they finish the season with episode 13 or are they going to do what CN did with Transformers and start the second season the following week?


Wheee in the last episode of this Season - Mary Jane discovers Peter Parker is Spider-man

No!! Why can't it be Gwen? She is Peter's true soul mate after all.

[GregX]

Does anyone know if they are actually going to stop showing new ones after they finish the season with episode 13 or are they going to do what CN did with Transformers and start the second season the following week?

Well, considering the second season isn't even finished being voice recorded, let alone animated, we're going to be in for a wait. But, that's fine.

[Manhunter]

No!! Why can't it be Gwen? She is Peter's true soul mate after all.

Because Gwen never learned that Peter was Spider-Man in the comics, and yes I realize this isn't the comics, but still...

[Anwar]

She found out in Ultimate...

[W.C.Reaf]

She found out in Ultimate...

And then she was killed in the very next arc. :p

Also about half the major players in the Ultimate 'verse knows Spidey's face under the mask. :p

Seriously though I'd like to see Gwen find out Pete is Spidey, but only in season 4 or 5 at the earliest. You don't want something like that to happen too fast.

[SigmasonicX]

Before someone who only reads the newest posts comes to the wrong conclusion, I'd like to reiterate that MJ learning Peter's secret is just one user's baseless speculation.

[Stu]

Later than I would've liked, but here's an interview with Group Therapy director Jennifer Coyle. Please click on the image below to read the interview.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/interviews/coyle/t-01.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/interviews/coyle/)

[Nygma]

Joaquim Dos Santos, a storyboard artist in Group Therapy? Awesome.

If he ends up being a director in Season 2 (after his stint with Avatar is done), I'm probably gonna lose it.

[ShadowStar]

Joaquim Dos Santos, a storyboard artist in Group Therapy? Awesome.

If he ends up being a director in Season 2 (after his stint with Avatar is done), I'm probably gonna lose it.

Don't forget his incredible work on Justice League Unlimited!

[Goodfellow]

And then she was killed in the very next arc. :p

Also about half the major players in the Ultimate 'verse knows Spidey's face under the mask. :p

Seriously though I'd like to see Gwen find out Pete is Spidey, but only in season 4 or 5 at the earliest. You don't want something like that to happen too fast.

WHAT??!! :eek:

I never read the Ultimate series. What issue was this in? How did she die?

[Anwar]

It was in the Ultimate Carnage story (in this version Carnage was literally a living blob of blood made from a blood sample Doctor Connors was experimenting on). Carnage here needed to drain the life out of other beings to survive, and halfway through the story it killed Gwen which drove Peter over the edge and he killed Carnage by dropping him down a smokestack.

[Batman]

Episode 12 - (Part 3 of 4 of the symbiote arc .)

"Intervention"

Peter Parker finally gains enough self-awareness to realize the alien Symbiote hasn't simply bonded with his Spider-Man costume, it's taken over his life! But when he tries to remove it, the Symbiote fights back, creating a battleground in Pete's own mind. But is it a war Pete can win?

[Anwar]

Okay, I'm guessing that since we've had enough of Dark Spidey in the last two episode "Intervention" will deal more with Dark Peter. I'm guessing he does some more nasty stuff to Eddie Gwen and MJ, beats up Flash and ignores May.

[ShadowStar]

I wonder why they're holding back images from "Intervention". The only image that the site that must not be named released today was one of Black Spidey from the title sequence - nothing new. Nothing to go with the synopsis.

I suspect that Eddie will become Venom under different circumstances in this show. Perhaps Peter will actually lose the battle in the bell tower (unlike in previous incarnations) and will attack a crowd that has Eddie and MJ? Then the suit can trade Peter in for Eddie.

[Anwar]

Doubt, it. That would make Peter kind of a weak character in that this version couldn't force the suit off of him.

Though they may actually go for what Web of Spiderman 1 did and have the symbiote absorb his sense of right/wrong and his responsibility so it sacrifices itself to save him, before it joins with Brock and becomes infused with his anger.

[Ed Liu]

Joaquim Dos Santos, a storyboard artist in Group Therapy? Awesome.

If he ends up being a director in Season 2 (after his stint with Avatar is done), I'm probably gonna lose it.

Odds are his stint on Avatar is done already. When I talked with Mike & Bryan, they said they only had 2 more weeks of work to wrap up the last season, and that was a good 1.5 months ago. Even at the most pessimistic schedule, I think Avatar's long done.

Reading that Dos Santos had boarded "Group Therapy" also explains why the fight scenes there were so awesome. Wouldn't be surprised if he does sign on as a director for season 2, and would be extremely pleased if that happens.


I wonder why they're holding back images from "Intervention". The only image that the site that must not be named released today was one of Black Spidey from the title sequence - nothing new. Nothing to go with the synopsis.

Just for the record, Toon Zone News has the same image (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=24126), and we like it when people mention us a lot ;). That's all that the PR folks gave us, though, so that's all we got. Sorry!

-- Ed

[James Harvey]

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/) also received the new The Spectacular Spider-Man image, and was made available to view yesterday here (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=8) (in hi-res). Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/) also has further information on the upcoming episode, "Intervention." Click on the thumbnail below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/intervention/t-01.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=8)

Stay tuned for further The Spectacular Spider-Man updates later this week.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

So the villain in the next episode is only the symbiote
Okay, I'm guessing that since we've had enough of Dark Spidey in the last two episode "Intervention" will deal more with Dark Peter. I'm guessing he does some more nasty stuff to Eddie Gwen and MJ, beats up Flash and ignores May. We haven't seen the dark side of Spider-Man, the comics never made him dark and the show printed this effect on Peters life

[Anwar]

I meant that we've gotten an episode of the symbiote having an effect on Spidey's behavior (even if it was the suit just controlling his sleeping body), maybe it's time we see it making him do nasty stuff as Peter Parker at Midtown High and at the Bugle.

[Spider-Man]

TV Guide (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Exclusive-Spider-Mans/800040829) has an exclusive first look at Venom! Check out the image!


After weeks of teasing, Venom finally makes his appearance on The CW's The Spectacular Spider-Man this Saturday, and we've got your exclusive first look. The alien menace, a popular Spidey villain from the comics and last year's Spider-Man 3, bonded to Peter Parker two episodes ago. On this week's episode, "Intervention" (airing June 7 at 10 am/ET) Peter fights back, forcing the symbiote to look for a new host — paging Pete's pal Eddie Brock! — and take on the form of the slithery, fanged Venom.

Comments?

[TwoFaced_Dark24]

Wow.

[batsy2]

OMG HE IS AWSOME
i he is even more powerful then i ever imageined

[Batman]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4103/55837924xp7.png
:eek::D *I'm Speechless*

[Reg]

Woohoo! Venom looks freaking sweet! And Greg Weisman is writing the ep! I was hoping he'd come on board to write another ep, but I didn't think it'd be still in the first season.

[Mad Hatter]

Honestly, I like the look of Venom here. He looks a lot different from the original concept drawings we saw before. The only important factor here is his personality. I know no one really likes Venom here, but I do. As for the portrayal of Eddie's motivation in the show, I think the build-up of his anger at Pete was a tad fast, but still, the end result is rather sadistic and somewhat evil. Just the way Venom should be. And, judging from that description, it looks like he'll be in two episodes after all. :D

[AlgeaX]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4103/55837924xp7.png
:eek::D *I'm Speechless*

Nice! I like that they're not making Venom ridiculously bulky, just big enough to make him threatening.

[Alex Weitzman]

Hey, Eddie Brock has legs. For a while, I thought he was a Weeble.

[thedanmachine]

nice pic. i still want to see him in action though. I'm hoping they dont go for the "he's bigger then spidey, so he's slower" route. I really want him to be able to match spidey, and probably beat spidey, in all aspects.

[Anwar]

Good, his biceps are no longer stupidly bigger than his head. Just usual exaggeration bigger.

[batgirl2007]

Good, his biceps are no longer stupidly bigger than his head. Just usual exaggeration bigger.
And his costume is actually black! Not blue or purple or whatever color they use when its too dark.:p

[Anarky]

Venom looks much better in that snapshot than his action figure. honestly, the figure looks very...gorilla-like

[Nightwing]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4103/55837924xp7.png
:eek::D *I'm Speechless*

I'm happy.


Venom looks much better in that snapshot than his action figure. honestly, the figure looks very...gorilla-like

I guess that's not abnormal. I saw an article by an action figure reviewer who didn't like the Spider-man figure from the line. Apparently, from his figure experienced eyes, he could tell the only thing that was cool and from a new mold was the Peter Parker head.

GREAT news that Weisman himself is writing. That is just going to seal the already sealed deal, baby!

[SpideyForever]

Wow! Venom looks awesome! Sweet.

[James Harvey]

Building to this weekend's new episode, The CW4Kids has released new images, and a short press release, chronicling the evolution of Spider-Man's Black Suit in The Spectacular Spider-Man. Click on the image below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/intervention/t-06.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=10)

Stay tuned for further updates.

[Miyamoto Musashi]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/intervention/t-06.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=10)

Another movie homage. From which movie? 1,2 or 3?

[ShadowStar]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4103/55837924xp7.png


:evil:

[creativerealms]

I really like the idea of the suit changing slowly from the classic design only black to the symbiont suit design. It a neat idea that has not been done before and I really like it.

[Batman]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/intervention/t-06.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=10)

Another movie homage. From which movie? 1,2 or 3?

Yeah it from all three movies .

[James Harvey]

Venom has arrived. Click on the thumbnail below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/intervention/t-09.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=12)

Stay tuned for further updates.

[Hypestyle]

so, will this Venom know Pete's real identity?
...if so, I hope he does "not" become a recurring villain.. There could only be so many people Venom can kidnap to flush him out... and I beg the Great Spider in the sky that he doesn't end up as "the lethal protector"...

[Batman]

Venom has arrived. Click on the thumbnail below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/intervention/t-09.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=12)

Stay tuned for further updates.

From now on we're poison to you Spider-Man. That's why we call ourselves... VENOM!!!

[Reg]

Let's just hope he doesn't start talking nonsense about eating people's brains. :shrug:

[AlgeaX]

Let's just hope he doesn't start talking nonsense about eating people's brains. :shrug:

I think that's one instance where we can all be thankful for S&P.

[TwoFaced_Dark24]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/intervention/t-09.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=12)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/NM95/venomattacksmj.jpg

AAAH!

[Thorn]

Wow, that's creepy. Messing with Mary Jane didn't work so well for Eddie, so I wonder if we'll see Gwen swapped in for this scenario.

[Rick Jones]

Wow, that's creepy. Messing with Mary Jane didn't work so well for Eddie, so I wonder if we'll see Gwen swapped in for this scenario.
I hope he doesn't mess with poor Aunt May

[James Harvey]

The CW4Kids has released a new studio conducted interview with Josh LeBar, the voice of Flash Thompson in The Spectacular Spider-Man. To read the interview, which also includes new images, click on the image below for more.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/bios/flashthompson/t-01.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/interviews/lebar/)

Stay tuned for further updates.

[lumpmoose]

This is an amazing ensemble cast – they're all complete and total professionals. It's fun, because I've watched all of them in their iconic roles. I used to watch "Coach," and here's Bill Fagerbakke.Bill Fagerbakke? Is that a scoop for season 2? Any guesses who he'll play?

[warnerbroman]

I am very impressed with the art of venom just please not slime tounge

[ShadowStar]

I am very impressed with the art of venom just please not slime tounge

Why not? And as you can see from the first pic of Venom that was released, the slime tongue is coming. :p

[TwoFaced_Dark24]

Why not?

He looks creepier.

[Batman]

The voice of Venom needs to be a little darker .

[ShadowStar]

The voice of Venom needs to be a little darker .

I was impressed with the symbiote's sinister voice at the end of "Intervention" - it really creeped me out.

I want a plot synopsis and images for "Nature vs. Nurture"! :(

[Mad Hatter]

I want a plot synopsis and images for "Nature vs. Nurture"! :(

HEAR, hear! All who agree say aye! In your post, of course. :D

And I also thought the symbiote's voice was cool at the end. I'm really looking forward to Venom's appearance this weekend.

Also, if I had my way, Carolyn Trainer and Ben Urich would arrear next season (if I'm lucky maybe Morlun or Morbius (NOT the Sp:TAS version! No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!)).

[Batman]

I want a plot synopsis and images for "Nature vs. Nurture"! :(

Here's

The Official Description for The Spectacular Spider-Man season 1 finale episode "Nature Vs. Nurture"

VENOM – On Thanksgiving, Aunt May Parker is released from the hospital, but Venom has no intention of letting May and Peter Parker enjoy a family celebration. Knowing all Spider-Man's secrets- even some Pete isn't consciously aware of- Venom threatens to destroy Pete and everyone he loves most. Will Pete embrace his destiny in time to defeat this new arch-nemesis?

[The New Titans]

Knowing all Spider-Man's secrets- even some Pete isn't consciously aware of

Does this mean he knows Gwen's feelings towards Peter? Something to do with his powers (hopefully not that Ezekiel rubbish)? Or something entirely different?

[ShadowStar]

Does this mean he knows Gwen's feelings towards Peter? Something to do with his powers (hopefully not that Ezekiel rubbish)? Or something entirely different?

It probably means that he loves Gwen deep down but hasn't acknowledged those feelings... yet.

Thanks for the synopsis.

[Anwar]

I kind of liked the older synopsis on wikipedia:

"Peter must face off against his greatest foe and closest friend...Venom."

[batsy2]

I kind of liked the older synopsis on wikipedia:

"Peter must face off against his greatest foe and closest friend...Venom."
dont believe everything you read on wikipedia until it is confirmed with the proper summery

[Anwar]

The official synopsis' aren't that accurate either: Peter didn't become obsessed with football in "Competition" nor did he get a swelled head in "Catalysts".

[Miyamoto Musashi]

The official synopsis' aren't that accurate either: Peter didn't become obsessed with football in "Competition" nor did he get a swelled head in "Catalysts".
How about this one, for Persona:
"Peter will learn not to judge the book by its cover when a new spiderman goes on a 1 man crime spree" or in the meaning of that, Peter judged no book by it's cover (I don't go literaly)

[Anwar]

That "don't judge a book by its cover" thing clearly was referring to Black Cat, not Chameleon...

[thedanmachine]

That "don't judge a book by its cover" thing clearly was referring to Black Cat, not Chameleon...

I dont think Black Cat really had a "cover" in that episode. She was a flirting, adventurous thief and she kind of stayed that way the whole episode.

[warnerbroman]

I hope Ann Weying makes an appearance later on

[Anwar]

They missed out on the best opportunity to use her, which is as Eddie' s girlfriend who leaves him because of his growing unstable behavior.

[ShadowStar]

The site that must not be named has images from "Nature vs. Nurture"! And, funnily enough, they accidentally called the show, The Sensational Spiderman. :D

[D Dubbs]

The site that must not be named has images from "Nature vs. Nurture"! And, funnily enough, they accidentally called the show, The Sensational Spiderman. :D

Uh...so can you post those images for the rest of us?

[Captain Highwind]

Uh...so can you post those images for the rest of us?

Sorry, it took me forever to remember what "The site that shall not be named" was actually called. :sweat:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2571/spidey1wz6.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidey1wz6.jpg)

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6304/spidey2wk3.th.jpg (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidey2wk3.jpg)

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3131/spidey3mv7.th.jpg (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidey3mv7.jpg)

[D Dubbs]

Thanks.

Heh, that Thanksgiving Day parade looks like it's going to be one heck of a battle scene.

[Reg]

Ah, finally some images. And he's fighting him at a parade. Nice. Wasn't expecting that.

[warnerbroman]

Sorry, it took me forever to remember what "The site that shall not be named" was actually called. :sweat:





http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3131/spidey3mv7.th.jpg (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidey3mv7.jpg) original but...eww like a beast wars transformer

[Anwar]

Yeah, Eddie looks like he's wearing a black hippo costume there with an "open mouth" top.

[Mad Hatter]

That image reminds me a lot of the Ultimate version of Venom. And that brings up the real question here... who's he calling on the phone?

[W.C.Reaf]

That image reminds me a lot of the Ultimate version of Venom. And that brings up the real question here... who's he calling on the phone?

Maybe someone called him.

[DarkKnight]

haha yeah he looks a lot like like rhinox to me lol

[James Harvey]

The CW4Kids has sent Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=20) new images from this weekend's season finale of The Spectacular Spider-Man, "Nature Versus Nurture." Click on the thumbnail below to check out all the information and the new hi-res images.


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/nature/t-02.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=20)

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=18) also has other new images from last week's episode, available here (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=18).

Stay tuned for further updates.

[ShadowStar]

Uh...so can you post those images for the rest of us?

I thought I had to wait for James Harvey to receive the images and post them. That's the way it's worked for a while now...

[Thorn]

And that brings up the real question here... who's he calling on the phone?

Some guesses: "Yeah, I'm near Times Square. A supervillain? Well, I'm okay Gwen, thanks for checking. My voice? Sore throat is all. Yeah, sure...I'll go find Pete. Wouldn't want anything bad to happen to him."

or "This hide-and-seek thing is fun, but it's getting old fast 'Bro.' Either you come out and fight or I go 'seek' some people close to you, got it?"

[D Dubbs]

I thought I had to wait for James Harvey to receive the images and post them. That's the way it's worked for a while now...

Oh...sorry, I didn't know that.

In other news, The CW4Kids has announced their schedule for the week after next.

June 21st, 2008
07:00 AM Will & Dewitt - Will's Whistle; Froget Me Not (#14)
07:30 AM Magi-Nation - The Precious Haz-Mai (#14)
08:00 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Don't Bring Your Pet to School; Cat Show Catastrophe; The Cat Whisperer with Casper Lombardo (#16)
08:30 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Fire Breathing Tom Cat/Medieval Menace/The Itch (#7)
09:00 AM Chaotic - Welcome to Chaotic, Part I (#1)
09:30 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man - Survival of the Fittest (#1)
10:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man - Interactions (#2)
10:30 AM TMNT: Fast Forward - Future Shellshock (#118)
11:00 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - The Forbidden Ritual, Part I (#144)
11:30 AM The Batman - The Batman/Superman Story, Part I (#53)

So, Spider-Man will start over from the beginning, airing two episodes per week.

[James Harvey]

I thought I had to wait for James Harvey to receive the images and post them. That's the way it's worked for a while now...Not at all, actually. I post up the images as soon as I get to them. That's all. If they were available through other legal and legitimate avenues, then they could be put up or linked to. Regardless of whether they were already posted or not in this forum, I still post up the images to make sure the hi-res versions are available.

More images for The Spectacular Spider-Man will likely be made available later this week. Stay tuned!

[warnerbroman]

Oh...sorry, I didn't know that.

In other news, The CW4Kids has announced their schedule for the week after next.

June 21st, 2008
07:00 AM Will & Dewitt - Will's Whistle; Froget Me Not (#14)
07:30 AM Magi-Nation - The Precious Haz-Mai (#14)
08:00 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Don't Bring Your Pet to School; Cat Show Catastrophe; The Cat Whisperer with Casper Lombardo (#16)
08:30 AM Tom & Jerry Tales - Fire Breathing Tom Cat/Medieval Menace/The Itch (#7)
09:00 AM Chaotic - Welcome to Chaotic, Part I (#1)
09:30 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man - Survival of the Fittest (#1)
10:00 AM The Spectacular Spider-Man - Interactions (#2)
10:30 AM TMNT: Fast Forward - Future Shellshock (#118)
11:00 AM Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - The Forbidden Ritual, Part I (#144)
11:30 AM The Batman - The Batman/Superman Story, Part I (#53)

So, Spider-Man will start over from the beginning, airing two episodes per week. so I my get to record mirror darkly after all

[James Harvey]

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=21) has been provided with an exclusive image from this weekend's season finale of The Spectacular Spider-Man. Click on the image below for more!


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/nature/t-04.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=21)

Stay tuned for further updates!

[ShadowStar]

http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/nature/t-04.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=21)



:evil:

BTW, the official (?) website has the preview for the episode up and running. Looks very cool. The stills of Venom haven't impressed me too much (hey, I have high expectations), but the preview is simply great. I think he could use more menace, from what I've seen so far, but we'll only know for sure when the episode airs...

http://www.spideytv.com/

[James Harvey]

The CW4Kids has provided Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=22) with a press release and new images from this weekend's season finale to The Spectacular Spider-Man. Click on the image below for more!


http://marvel.toonzone.net/specspidey/reviews/nature/t-05.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=22)

Stay tuned for further updates!

[D Dubbs]

Hmm...so they finished the voice recording for the second season? I wonder if it'll be ready to air by Fall...

[Anwar]

Well, nice to see they finally gave Gwen a different outfit than just the pink hood-shirt and sweat pants.

[batsy2]

Hmm...so they finished the voice recording for the second season? I wonder if it'll be ready to air by Fall...

i hope so cause i want to see what mysterio kraven and silver sable

[Reg]

Well, nice to see they finally gave Gwen a different outfit than just the pink hood-shirt and sweat pants.

Yeah and it looks like Venom may have kidnapped her. If he did... that sick son of a....!!!!:mad:

[Thorn]

Maybe it's Eddie's warped idea of an object lesson. He'll kidnap Gwen both to yank Spidey's chain and in the process, somehow try to show Gwen that her affections for Peter are wasted on him, because Peter's a bad person. (This is the crazy talking, of course.)

[ShadowStar]

Yeah and it looks like Venom may have kidnapped her. If he did... that sick son of a....!!!!:mad:

Hey, it was bound to happen. My favourite Spider-villain doesn't play by the book. :evil: I wonder if endangering Gwen in this finale could lead to a certain tragic confrontation with the Green Goblin at a later date, possibly in the second season finale?

Gwen being at the centre of this one strengthens my belief that Peter and Gwen will get together in the finale. Maybe her glasses will finally fall off during the battle and Pete will persuade her to keep them off. :p

The press release - wow! From the looks of that press release, perhaps some people were right about Chameleon impersonating Green Goblin and Norman being the real deal! I hope those people are right, anyway. Josh Keaton hinted ominously that we don't really know what happened in season 1... He must be talking about Green Goblin.

[Anwar]

For Gwen, she isn't going to die at all in this series. Weisman said as much when he talked about the possibility of DVD Directs.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

I'm glad that even the voice-over artists were caugh off-guard by the second season finale script. I can already imagine what will happen.

[ShadowStar]

For Gwen, she isn't going to die at all in this series. Weisman said as much when he talked about the possibility of DVD Directs.

Oh. Does that mean that she might be killed in a DTV? Well, I hope they don't shy away from death completely in this series.

[Anwar]

They haven't shied away from death in this series, the whole Uncle Ben thing last episode proved that.

I have to wonder what Weisman meant when he said that the reason he has Emily Osborn in this show was so that at least one of the people in Peter's "clique" had a set of parents. I wasn't aware that Gwen's mom was dead, just that the comics never mentioned her at all. In Ultimate she's alive but a real nut.

[ShadowStar]

They haven't shied away from death in this series, the whole Uncle Ben thing last episode proved that.


Well, I meant other than him.

EDIT - The site that must not be named has a list of villains who will be returning for season 2 (and a few new ones). Doc Ock and Green Goblin aren't on the list, but they'll be back, surely.

[Rud]

can you put up the list, cause i dont know what 'the site that must not be named' is, PLZ?

[DarkKnight]

i hope scorpion is one of the villains next season. he's one of my favorite spidey villains.

[Rud]

i hope scorpion is one of the villains next season. he's one of my favorite spidey villains.

Weisman says hel be in season 3

[D Dubbs]

Heh, I found the secret site.

Returning villains in Season 2 will include Chameleon, Vulture, Sandman, Rhino, Electro, Venom, Tombstone and Hammerhead. Some of the new villains will be Mysterio, Kraven and Molten Man.

[W.C.Reaf]

Edit: D Dubbs beat me to it.

[D Dubbs]

Edit: D Dubbs beat me to it.

Yeah...sorry. Putting it in spoiler tags is a good idea, though...