Green Lantern's ring recharging?

[Hal Jordan]

Question: Does the current GL (in JL) have to recharge his ring every 24 hours? If so, how the heck does he "carry" the battery around. In addition, if its "in" his ring or he can call to it at will, doesn't this defeat the purpose?

Also, does it still have the yellow impurity in JL?

Another question: how fast can that ring fly him? It seemed in this ep of JL (war world) that he was following a ship traveling much faster... :confused:

TIA

[Ed Liu]

Howdy,

There has been no reference to the 24-hour time limit on the ring in the animated JL. I wondered about that during "War World" last night, so I'm going to guess that either he doesn't need to recharge it or the writers were getting sloppy again. Besides, if he keeps a battery in some Green Plasma Alternate Dimension, he'd need some power left in the ring to get it, right?

I don't think the ring has the impurity to yellow, either, but again we haven't heard either way. I missed the Sinestro episode of STAS -- did the ring have the impurity then? As a friend of mine pointed out once, the impurity would mean Jubilee would be able to beat a Green Lantern, which just seems wrong somehow =8^).

The ring can fly him as fast or as slow as the writers need him to go, apparently.

-- Ed/Ace

[Toddman]

Originally posted by Hal Jordan
Question: Does the current GL (in JL) have to recharge his ring every 24 hours? If so, how the heck does he "carry" the battery around. In addition, if its "in" his ring or he can call to it at will, doesn't this defeat the purpose?

Also, does it still have the yellow impurity in JL?

Another question: how fast can that ring fly him? It seemed in this ep of JL (war world) that he was following a ship traveling much faster... :confused:

TIA

I have a feeling that the ring's strengths and weaknesses follow the current model used by Kyle Rayner in the GL comics. Those limitations (or lack thereof) include:

1)No weakness to yellow (Kyle's ring in his guest appearance in STAS had no yellow weakness either), the ring's only limitation is the wearer's will power.

2)No 24 hour time limit on recharging. Instead, the duration of the ring's power depends on the length of the recharging(i.e. the longer the charge the more time that can pass before it needs a re-charge)

It would be nice to see John charge up his ring in an episode (and possibly explain the perameters the ring must operate in as well).

Toddman

[MattL.]

My theory is that the rings duration is actually extremely long, but all GLs have to return to the planet Oa to get their rings recharged via the central power battery. (Maybe annually perhaps)

Its probably even ceremonial to a certain extent because in order to charge the ring you have to speak the oath so in a sense its like renewing your vow of commitment to the Green Lantern Corp.

[MattL.]

and yes I know that Kyle didnt have to do that but I think its clear by now that the JL version is different.

[Tracer]

OK, to the best of my knowledge this is how it goes..

Alan Scott - The charge lasted for days at a time but his ring and lantern are not the same as the rest of the GL's. He kept his battery at home. Weakness - Wood.

Hal Jordan and the corps - 24 hours, period. The ring created a "pocket" in space that let them hold the battery there. The rings could recharge each other each other and they could use each other's batteries. The batteries lasted (10 years I think, don't quote me on this one) At which point they had to make the trip to OA for the cerimonial recharge. Yes it required energy to get the battery out of the pocket but they were linked to the ring and know when they were running low. A smart GL would retrieve the battery before running out of juice. Weakness - Yellow. Yes jubilee could kill Hal but poor Alan can be taken down by a punk with a bat.

Kyle Ranyer - No 24 hour limit, there is one charge on the ring just like a normal 9 volt and depending on the power he uses, it is out when he uses it up. You can't charge it more or less. It is simply charged. So the more complex the energy projection the more power he uses. He also stores his at home and in a pocket universe. Weakness - none. That is why his ring is called the most powerful weapon in the universe. The catch is it only works for him.

[Clark J. Kent]

Originally posted by MattL.
and yes I know that Kyle didnt have to do that but I think its clear by now that the JL version is different. Matt, what evidence do you have to back your claim? I don't see why the JL version is different and I don't understand why you assume that the Lanterns don't have personal batteries likie we saw Kyle had.

[Toddman]

Originally posted by Tracer
OK, to the best of my knowledge this is how it goes..

Kyle Ranyer - No 24 hour limit, there is one charge on the ring just like a normal 9 volt and depending on the power he uses, it is out when he uses it up. You can't charge it more or less. It is simply charged. So the more complex the energy projection the more power he uses. He also stores his at home and in a pocket universe. Weakness - none. That is why his ring is called the most powerful weapon in the universe. The catch is it only works for him.

Tracer,

Thanks for the more accurate info on Kyle's ring and the way it works, I should have put a disclaimer in my post about NOT being a regular reader of the GL comics.

Are you an inker by the way?

Toddman

[Hal Jordan]

Thanks for all the good knowledge. I hope they cover some of these details down the road in JL, I'd like to learn more about them.

I was always a fan of some impurity built in-- and although I always thought the Guardians were a little screwy, the concept of having some weakness to keep the power in check was always a good one.

I still don't like the whole "pocket universe" thing. The 24 hour charge (as I understand it) was always meant as a check on power-- and if you can just call to your battery, how does this really matter. (Unless you just happen to be getting pounded at the time of course).

Then again, what is a GL going to do? Carry his battery around like a cell phone? :D

[MattL.]

Clark J:

John has yet to be seen with anything resembling a portable battery and also apparently John has been GL for *years* (hence the green in his eyes) which as we all know is at the heart of the contunuity flaw between STAS and JL.

How can John have been GL for years when Kyle just became GL roughly what, about 5 years ago?

I think its resonable to assume that since Bruce Timm aproaches the shows fluidly and doesnt come from the Continuity Cop school of comic book thought, that some things in his personal vision of the Lantern mythos have been remimagined even since Kyles appearence in STAS. Not the difference in the robes the Guradians wear and the design of the meeting hall on Oa.

and on a personal note, I've loved everything he's doen with Lantern mythos so far from swapping out Kyle for John Stewart to using the ring as an energy weapon instead of a wacky funshapes generator.

[Clark J. Kent]

Matt, if you watched the Justice League as intently as you think you do, John Stewart is clearly charging his ring during the show's intro with a personal power battery.

:rolleyes:

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Clark J. Kent
Matt, if you watched the Justice League as intently as you think you do, John Stewart is clearly charging his ring during the show's intro with a personal power battery.

:rolleyes:

"Clearly"? Well, silly me, I thought it was just cool design work.

Really, if you're going to interpret the intro that way, you have to start off knowing that there is such a thing as the "personal power battery" which is being used in the JL show. And since that is precisely what is at issue, I don't see the intro as being proof that such a battery exists in the show. You might as well say that the intro "clearly" shows that Hawkgirl's wings are not organic, because it shows them not flapping.

I'm not saying anything either way on the battery issue. Only that the intro seems to me to prove nothing one way or the other.

[Clark J. Kent]

Maxie, since you bring it up, Hawkgirl's wings are not organic.

[Maxie Zeus]

I didn't say they were. I'm just saying the intro isn't going to establish whether they are or not. And I don't see that it's going to establish the existence of a personal power battery in the animated JL continuity.

[Clark J. Kent]

I don't see why it isn't, first of all, and second of all, why would Bruce Timm deviate THAT FAR from the Green Lantern concept? Just because we've never seen a personal battery in the show does not mean that it does not exist. It just means that he haven't seen it yet. The Leaguers are always in the middle of a case. I just assume that John charges before and/or after it. I don't understand how my claim that personal power batteries exist is any less valid (seeing as how it's been that way for 60 years in the GL mythos) than MattL's theories about annual charging ceremonies which has never been part of the story.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Clark J. Kent
I don't see why it isn't, first of all, and second of all, why would Bruce Timm deviate THAT FAR from the Green Lantern concept? Just because we've never seen a personal battery in the show does not mean that it does not exist. It just means that he haven't seen it yet. The Leaguers are always in the middle of a case. I just assume that John charges before and/or after it. I don't understand how my claim that personal power batteries exist is any less valid (seeing as how it's been that way for 60 years in the GL mythos) than MattL's theories about annual charging ceremonies which has never been part of the story.

I don't know if you're arguing with me or the earlier posters. Just to keep things clear on my end: I don't have a position on whether there is a battery in the show or not. I'm only saying I haven't seen anything that would settle the question. So far as I can tell, your theory is exactly as good as MattL's. True, I've said I haven't seen any evidence to support your theory; but I'll add that I have seen none to support his.

I only meant to point out that the intro doesn't strike me as supporting your position. The intro is so stylized and abstract that I have a hard time seeing that it settles the issue one way or the other.

On the main issue, of how exactly the recharging works, I am totally neutral. :)

[The Dark Knight]

To me it seems like just another one of those things the writers choose to ignore, which ultimately detracts from the realism of the show. If they put more thought into JL we wouldn't have to speculate over something as important as the power of Green Lantern's ring and how it works. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll iron out all these little problems and questions in another episode.

[Lightwave]

are you all forgetting the first jl episode?that movie thingamabob?anyway,when they found the fake superman and hawkgirl,gas cam in.it was yellow,and hawkgirl said for him to use his ring.he seemed weakened.i don't know,it might be wrong.just my two cents.
:yakko: :wakko: :dot:

[Borg4of3]

Could someone explain to me the 'weakness to yellow' thing? Is it like Kryptonite to GLs? Can they not manipulate things that are yellow? Can the rings' 'aura' not touch anything yellow?

Lets just say that the yellow-skinned wacky man (aka Creeper) for some reason attacks GL, wearing a yellow boa and striped yellow underwear (Maybe he thought since Batman is basically all black, being all yellow would make him cooler) - What would it take for him to beat up GL? What couldn't GL do against him that he could do against, say, Harley Quinn?

[The Green Hornet]

in the whole death of superman thing hal jordan wanted to blow mongul up at the atomic level but couldnt b/c hes yellow

however he did make a nifty set of armour (which he then used to pick up some heavy hammer of steels and beat the life outta mongul....)

so i guess the answer is it cant affect yellow (or in Alan Scott's case wood) at all

[Clark J. Kent]

Great Book of Oa: Power Rings (http://www.glcorps.org/rings.html)

That should answer some of the stuff about power rings and weaknesses.

[Hal Jordan]

Originally posted by Borg4of3
Could someone explain to me the 'weakness to yellow' thing? Is it like Kryptonite to GLs? Can they not manipulate things that are yellow? Can the rings' 'aura' not touch anything yellow?


I remember some really good comics I found at a shop (talking late 70's Green Lantern/Green Arrow era), when Hal Jordan was fighting various enemies that would try to use his yellow "weakness". Hal would just use everything AROUND the enemy he could to beat the crap out of him. So, instead of creating a big green hammer, he would pick up a car or something and bash the enemy, or cause an earthquake by turning his ring to the ground.

So, even if someone is in a yellow suit, a clever GL can still take him on no problem!

[MattL.]

Clark J I will thank very freakin much to not give me a ":rolleyes:" for doing nothing more than posting a theory.

I didn't take a dismissive and condecending attitude toward any of your proposed ideas so back yourself off of mine.

and as far as deviations in the mythos go, none of TAS episodes have ever held to the letter of law regarding Pre or Post Crisis DC. (Thank God).

I just put the theory forth as a something they could or might do that would be a different take but very intresting.

Of course it could just be that he's got his personal battery sitting at home next to a stack of Vibe magazines.

[Maxie Zeus]

This is in danger of spiralling out of control.

Let's remember to treat each other with respect. There are a lot people here who don't know a lot about the power rings, and this is a chance for those who do (and who disagree) to enlighten the rest of us with their theories. That will only work if you treat those theories with a minimum of respect. Go ahead and try to refute them, but don't treat other like idiots for offering them.

[RockyMtnBri]

I'm new, so I'll throw in my 2 cents:

Original Green Lantern (Alan Scott) - mystical source for power, wood weakness

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) and Corps (including John Stewart and Guy Gardner until he found another ring) - general battery on Oa source for power as well as separate personal lanterns tied back to it, yellow weakness (impurity in the lantern and rings)

Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner) - ring created and powered by the last Guardian, Ganthet, after Hal Jordan slays the rest and becomes Parallax, no known weaknesses

OK, that was the comics. On the Superman episode, Kyle's ring seemed to be his current one because he was able to battle Sinestro's yellow ring energy directly with no effect on his powers. We know in the Justice League that there is a battery (from the Manhunters episode), so maybe John's ring is like the original corps. I haven't noticed a yellow weakness issue yet, so let's keep our eyes open.

[Hal Jordan]

This is in danger of spiralling out of control.


Agreed!! :)

My initial post was simply to figure out where the writer's are coming from, and to understand how things work in JL...its pretty obvious that no one knows except for THEM the real answer, and it may be undefined as of yet. '

I appreciate all the GL knowledge and theories everyone has thrown into the discussion-- one thing's for sure, GL has some serious fans out there!!

[The Dark Knight]

Originally posted by nothing
As a matter of fact, his ring will lose it's charge in an upcoming epiosde.
That sounds interesting. I was hoping the JL writers would deal with the limitations of the ring.

I would ask how you always seem to know all these things but I'll just assume you got super powers from kryptonite like all those people on Smallville.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by nothing
You see John charge his ring in the CG opening credits, and he's stated it can run out of juice. My guess would be that the ring is like a gas tank.

Hmmm. Given the expertise nothing has shown in the past with regard to the JL series, I will yield to him on this claim -- at least, until we hear otherwise from another impeccable source. :p

That is neat to know.

[Tracer]

Originally posted by Toddman


Tracer,

Thanks for the more accurate info on Kyle's ring and the way it works, I should have put a disclaimer in my post about NOT being a regular reader of the GL comics.

Are you an inker by the way?

Toddman

No Problem. But I am not connected to the industry in any way, just avid comic reader for 25 years.

[Clark J. Kent]

Originally posted by nothing
You see John charge his ring in the CG opening credits, and he's stated it can run out of juice.Thank you for proving my point.

[Joe G.]

TODDMAN --

LOL! GREAT!

Tracer --

I take it you've not seen Chasing Amy? Jason Lee is the inker on a comic written and drawn by Ben Affleck (he draws it, right?), and he's at a convention where some guy says something like, "You know, inkers don't do anything special. They're really just tracers."

Hence, Toddman asked you if you were an inker.

I'm still laughing at that :)