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lemonhead75
04-28-2008, 06:42 PM
Most of the time, after a show doesn't get renewed, it would be lucky to get 1 airing a day. And with Fosters ending, and Squirrel Boy over, and Billy&Mandy over, and with the Eds crew working on the movie, what will CN do with all this extra space?

They brought back Johnny Bravo for a test airing, and put Totally Spies back on the schedule for a while, but neither were hits, and were taken back off.

I see big, gaping holes in the schedule.

I'm a bit worried.:sad:

Dr.Pepper
04-28-2008, 06:43 PM
Probably more mindless marathons and live action movies.:sad:

Mickialla
04-28-2008, 06:46 PM
They're gonna bring Kwicky Koala back ;)

Pomegranate
04-28-2008, 06:50 PM
Probably more mindless marathons and live action movies.:sad:

That's what I think as well:crying: !

Draft
04-28-2008, 06:52 PM
I thought it was pretty obvious. The stuff replacing the comedy series in the CN studios is all the action stuff. Ben 10 AF, The Secret Saturdays, New Batman series, and Transformers all are in house productions to my knowledge. That could be a reason why they switched comedy to Thursday, to run out Foster's and Gym Partner, but who knows..

Silverstar
04-28-2008, 06:53 PM
Obviously, they'll acquire Big Bad Beetleborgs and run that ad nausea.

I can't wait for the Beetleborgs/Out of Jimmy's Head crossover episode. :anime:

lemonhead75
04-28-2008, 06:55 PM
Obviously, they'll acquire Big Bad Beetleborgs and run that ad nausea.

I can't wait for the Beetleborgs/Out of Jimmy's Head crossover episode. :anime:

The sad thing is, I actally heared a rumor a while ago that they were going to aqquire Big Bad Beetleborgs.

Draft
04-28-2008, 06:59 PM
I kind of remember that too, prolly wiki or joke with Kamen Rider.

But yes, please don't give CN any more ideas. Though I do admit I did like Beetleborgs back in the day (I was throwing out some old toys and found this keychain that had the head monster and it creeped me out cause it looked so weird), and it probably would be a good fit with Kamen Rider. Hell, they could block it w/ Goosebumps and make a Fox Kids Power Hour. Crap, now i'm giving them ideas

lemonhead75
04-28-2008, 07:00 PM
I kind of remember that too, prolly wiki or joke with Kamen Rider.

But yes, please don't give CN any more ideas. Though I do admit I did like Beetleborgs back in the day (I was throwing out some old toys and found this keychain that had the head monster and it creeped me out cause it looked so weird), and it probably would be a good fit with Kamen Rider. Hell, they could block it w/ Goosebumps and make a Fox Kids Power Hour. Crap, now i'm giving them ideas


They should let people send in their versions of the CN schedule. Utilizing all *POSSIBLE* shows.

Draft
04-28-2008, 07:03 PM
Meh, [as] has tried to do that and it hasn't really worked out (see Sat with all anime all premires early ratings)

Prolly the schedule gives it some good ratings in the demo, but they're too far behind to compete with Disney and Nick at this point.

Racattack!Force
04-28-2008, 07:05 PM
I kind of remember that too, prolly wiki or joke with Kamen Rider.

But yes, please don't give CN any more ideas. Though I do admit I did like Beetleborgs back in the day (I was throwing out some old toys and found this keychain that had the head monster and it creeped me out cause it looked so weird), and it probably would be a good fit with Kamen Rider. Hell, they could block it w/ Goosebumps and make a Fox Kids Power Hour. Crap, now i'm giving them ideas

I think Kamen Rider and OOJH is enough live-action shows for now. :sweat:
Wait, they are likely to finish up OOJH by July. Meaning that Kamen Rider will be the only live-action show to actually show new episodes in Fall. And hopefully OOJH will be completely off by Winter. :shrug:

Draft
04-28-2008, 07:12 PM
I think Kamen Rider and OOJH is enough live-action shows for now. :sweat:
Wait, they are likely to finish up OOJH by July. Meaning that Kamen Rider will be the only live-action show to actually show new episodes in Fall. And hopefully OOJH will be completely off by Winter. :shrug:
Meh, I'm very skeptical that it was included in that Everett Peck message, I don't think it was, since most of the production isn't done in the animation studio since it's live action, so it might've made the cut

You forgot Goosebumps, which'll be back come October with possibly the new series

Lavenderpaw
04-28-2008, 07:14 PM
Probably more mindless marathons and live action movies.:sad:

The ultimate optimist you are.:shrug: Seriously though,they can't glide on LA movies forever and still be considered Cartoon Network!

Racattack!Force
04-28-2008, 07:16 PM
You forgot Goosebumps, which'll be back come October with possibly the new series
I'm hoping it stays in October, instead of airing for 6 months.

lemonhead75
04-28-2008, 07:21 PM
I'm hoping it stays in October, instead of airing for 6 months.

Agreed.

strawberryjuice
04-28-2008, 09:25 PM
They're gonna bring Kwicky Koala back ;)
anybody rememebr that old promo where all the characters were "sick" and they showed that all day long? XD

strawberryjuice
04-28-2008, 09:28 PM
I'm hoping it stays in October, instead of airing for 6 months.
Agreed. That was rediculouse in my opinion.

Mickialla
04-28-2008, 09:54 PM
anybody rememebr that old promo where all the characters were "sick" and they showed that all day long? XD

I know it was one of my favorite promos that's why I mentioned it ;)



Agreed. That was rediculouse in my opinion.

It was ridiculous. In fact, they shouldn't air it, not even in october! Think about it, no one liked it, plus Cartoon Network has so many other monster themed shows to choose from (Courage, Billy and Mandy, Scooby Doo, maaybe Evil Con Carne) why would they want to go out of their way to air a show no one wanted to be on in the first place :sad:

Lavenderpaw
04-28-2008, 09:57 PM
So many questions...

strawberryjuice
04-28-2008, 09:59 PM
It was ridiculous. In fact, they shouldn't air it, not even in october! Think about it, no one liked it, plus Cartoon Network has so many other monster themed shows to choose from (Courage, Billy and Mandy, Scooby Doo, maaybe Evil Con Carne) why would they want to go out of their way to air a show no one wanted to be on in the first place :sad:

seriousely! I would rather have a good ol courage marathon or Halloween themed episode (of all their cartoons) instead of goosebumps. I didn't like that show back then and I don't like it now.

Andrew T. Hingson
04-29-2008, 06:43 AM
Assuming they don't bomb... George of the Jungle and Chop Socky Chooks may last through the year. Chowder is the only original comedy that we know for sure got renewed and it's going to flagship Thursday nights and of course there's Flapjack. Jimmy may have not be renewed but it has several episodes left I believe so it'll probably stick around for a while. And they probably have some more acquired comedies that they didn't bother mentioning yet. I mean... Chock Socky Chooks pretty much came out of nowhere.

And they seem to be getting more use out of Robotboy these days than when it was last on the schedule.

Action wise they've got more Ben 10: Alien Force along with the Secret Saturdays in-house and probably more Transformers beyond the movie and the 26 episodes already confirmed. Then of course there's Batman and Star Wars which are acquisitions and surely Naruto Shippudden and Storm Hawks season 2 and probably some more action aquisitions which they didn't bother to mention yet.

And lots more animated and (sigh...) live action movies.

But I suppose there may be less premieres on average this year (for comedy programing anyway) than last year but as long as those shows are watchable a few less premeieres per week isn't the least bit a problem IMO. CN's upcoming slate looks pretty good.

Blackstar
04-29-2008, 08:26 AM
I read that Out of Jimmy's Head was greenlit for 13 episode in it's 2ns season. So far, only 3 episodes have aired, which would mean that there are 10 more that have yet to air, though I don't know when CN plans to air them. My guess would be either may or early summer.

And of course, there's the upcoming animated series Flapjack, which we've been subjected to a couple of previews for. Based on what I've seen, it's kind of like Chowder at sea, but at least Flapjack is a cartoon.

And of course we know that CN will alter it's morning/early afternoon schedule for the summer break. That will mean more marathons and movies.

judyindisguise
04-29-2008, 09:46 AM
What'll fill the schedule? More of that ******* Scooby Doo I imagine. And those lame cute-widdle-dinosaur movies. Feh!

macattack
04-29-2008, 10:21 AM
Basically what's going on is that CN is shifting some of the priority normally belonging to comedy to action (or "fantasy adventure", as the new buzzword goes). So if you're a comedy fan you may feel a bit wanting this year, as many shows are finishing up and they may not get immediate replacements, but if you're an action fan this year will be better than usual. And if you like both, CN's upcoming slate looks pretty good.

Plus on Sundays is the usual array of animated and live-action movies.

Andrew T. Hingson
04-29-2008, 02:34 PM
I wouldn't go as far as to say their focus is shifting from comedy to action given that on weekdays there's only what... 2.5 hours of action a day? But hopefully that will change in Fall (though I doubt it... just Friday, Saturday and maybe Sunday will have more than 2.5 hours of action on them while Monday - Thursday are likely to remain that minimal amount.

macattack
04-29-2008, 03:01 PM
Well, if Friday is going to be the new home for action I bet we'll get four hours there. Fried Dynamite is four hours, remember, and I don't think CN will launch a brand new block with anything less than three hours at the minimum.

Saturdays might become just a rerun night. I doubt Naruto and company will stick around on Saturdays for very long once the new block launches, so we'll likely lose the two hours of action we have running there.

Draft
04-29-2008, 04:42 PM
Nobody listens to me. Squirrel Boy, Gym Partner, and Foster's should have/will be replaced in the studio (where the cartoons are made) by Transformers, Batman, and Secret Saturdays (I read Flapjack took over Lazlo).

I assume Flapjack will be another 26 episode series, and won't be a success

correct me if i'm wrong (I prolly am), but has Foster's started up the final season yet? Because that would leave the argument of Jimmy's Head invalid

Racattack!Force
04-29-2008, 04:53 PM
correct me if i'm wrong (I prolly am), but has Foster's started up the final season yet? Because that would leave the argument of Jimmy's Head invalid
Yes, it has. It's already aired a quite a few episodes. :shrug:

Mickialla
04-29-2008, 09:35 PM
Ok, you're question is pretty simple to answer, but I'm gonna go ahead and make it long and more complex than it's got to be :anime:

First things first, let's take a look at the shows that have been confirmed definitely to be leaving:

Foster's
Squirrel Boy
Billy and Mandy
Kids Next Door
Camp Lazlo

Now based on Everett Peck's letter, we can assume that the following have finished production and just need to air their final episodes:

Gym Partner
Out of Jimmy's Head
The Eds

So that means that we have like 8 shows finishing production. There are three comedy shows that I doubt will end: Those are George of the Jungle, Chop Socky Chooks, and Johnny Test; all three of which are out of house productions. I'm guessing Mr. Peck was referring only to in-house, though this is only an assumption. With that being said, based on what premiered in late 07 and stuff at the Upfront, the following will premiere and become more prominent within the schedule eventually

Chowder
Flapjack
George of the Jungle
Chop Socky Chooks
Transformers Animated
Star Wars Clone Wars
The Secret Saturdays
Batman the Brave and the Bold
The Cartoonstitute Project
Ben 10 Alien Force
Johnny Test

That means we have 8 shows ending and 10 shows becoming more prominent. So really, we have little to worry about.

Another important thing to remember is that a lot of shows don't get taken off the schedule as soon as they end. Don't forget Cow and Chicken, which began in '97, ended in '99, and had reruns 'till '03. Heck, Courage the Cowardly Dog has reruns to this day! Sure, some of the less popular shows will be given the boot, that's what happened with Mike Lu and Og, and will probably happen with Squirrel Boy. But I can guarantee that more popular shows like Foster's, Billy and Mandy, and The Eds will have a good 1-2 years of reruns after they all end (I think Foster's is the only one left that hasn't ended). I'll tell you y this is
- Foster's still has a decent number of episodes left to air, so they'll probably air those, plus the finale movie later on. Based on the rate episodes are shown now, I can say that Foster's will officially end maybe Late Summer-Early Fall.
- The Eds still have their movie finale to air. They won't just take the Ed's off the schedule then put them back on for the movie then say hasta la vista to them like that. It would be weird.
- Billy and Mandy have the Underfist special this Halloween. Like with the Ed's Grim Adventures won't be taken off the air then brought back in October for a special then leave like that. It doesn't work that way. Well, usually it doesn't, with an exception being the PPG TV Movie that's airing this year... 3 years after the show ended :D

Plus, I doubt that the shows announced at the Upfront are the only shows that will premiere. Acquired shows will most likely begin airing, most likely some Kids WB (It's time is short on this earth:crying:) shows like Loonatics Unleashed, Shaggy and Scooby Get A Clue, we may even see a return of something like Xiaolin Showdown.

With a good deal of both comedy and fantasy adventure entering the schedule, plus some movies in the schedule (please no LA, pleaaase) there's no need to worry about giant gaping holes within the schedule. And if that does become a problem, they can always lengthen the Cartoon Cartoon show so we can see more of the good old Cartoon Cartoons XD. Oooor, Kwicky Koala!!!

Racattack!Force
04-29-2008, 09:49 PM
Ed, Edd n Eddy is an out-house production by AKA Studios.

Mickialla
04-29-2008, 10:09 PM
Ed, Edd n Eddy is an out-house production by AKA Studios.

That's true, but it's also a Cartoon Network Original, which I think Mr. Peck was referring to. Johnny Test first aired on Kids WB, and I'm not sure if George of the Jungle and Chop Socky Chooks are Cartoon Network originals because

-George of the Jungle is a recreation of another cartoon, George of the Jungle, which was made by the same people who made Rocky and Bullwinkle long ago. Plus in the credits it says its a Teletoon Original, and it airs on Nicktoons Network in Europe.

-Chop Socky Chooks might be Cartoon Network originals. The only arguement I have is that they air on Teletoon; not really much of an arguement cuz alot of Cartoon Network Originals air in Teletoon on countries where Cartoon Network is not aired, like Canada. Plus Foster's was aired on Kids WB! for a short time, but that's Cartoon Network's sister channel so I'm not sure where to go with it.

Either way, my point is that Mr. Peck was most likely referring to all CN original comedies being done, which includes Ed Edd n' Eddy. I said in house and outhouse because I had forgotten that there were a few CN originals that were not in house

Racattack!Force
04-29-2008, 10:12 PM
Both are, co-productions between Teletoon and Cartoon Network. :shrug:

Draft
04-29-2008, 10:12 PM
Response to Mickialla

Well, 4/5 on your list were confirmed cancelled by their creators awhile ago (Hell, B+M was announced in 06 I think, well before Everett Peck's letter. Lazlo in fact was out In Winter 06/07 if I remember reading correctly when Flapjack took over

I still don't think Jimmy was included, since it isn't an animated series so therefore it doesn't take up a lotta space in the studio Technicly, the Eds don't count because it isn't an inhouse production (It's made in Canada) though it's been in limbo for awhile and will continue to be with the voice of Ed taking a trip around the world someone posted recently. Gym Partner I can't argue with based on Peck's letter.

The 3 shows you mentioned are all out of house, and Test probably won't get picked up (Even if it doesn't go to 4K!DS CW). Then out of the list, only 7 are inhouse productions (George is Teletoon, Star Wars is Lucasfilm). So truthfully it's only 4-5 shows cancelled for 7 new productions, which seems pretty good to me.

I wish you had pointed out how Lazlo has been constantly aired since it finished production, it has gotten 3 prominent slots a day, more than Foster's and B+M. Though you should check the schedule, the Eds only have 1 slot this week and B+M only have a weekday slot. I still think and I bet CN is banking on Underfist being a huge success, since it could be a good compliment to Chowder since they have similar humor and spins-ff from Billy and Mandy.

CN and WB don't have a very good relationship. I could see something like Get a Clue or Tom and Jerry be on there (Since they've constantly aired incarnations of the franchises and have a decent amount of eps), but Loonatics has less episodes and was very unpopular. Xialon Showdown could come back though, kind of like Robot Boy and Totally Spies! tend to do.

CSC is Teletoon? I thought that was another korean piece of crap like Eon Kid.

Everett Peck is referring to all of the inhouse stuff, because that's what he would know since he works in the studio. Since Foster's was starting on the final season and Lazlo had left (Obviously we don't know much bout the rest), it would make sense based on his letter that he's talking in house.

Hey, I just remembered something that would be able to help us. I remember there being a pitcture of the CN Studios which showed where all of the series worked in the studio (I remember Jack being on there), so that could tell us how many series acan work in the studio at one time..