Post your reviews: Adult Swim Action - 2/23/02

[Killtacular]

I'll be setting up PHP review pages very soon, but for now, feel free to post reviews in here.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

I happened to like this. Funimation i think did i good job although you could tell some of the edits... ANYWAY i found it very amusing and the dub i though was good. This is one of the few animes that i have gotten into without watching more than one episode so i cant wait to watch more.

[Matt Hazuda]

I don't normally review things, but I figure I would for the premiere night of ASS(Adult Swim Saturday)

Yu Yu Hashuko: Funimation really suprised me with this show, and in the good way :p They left in the original(albeit translated version of the) opening song, and also the bumper(the thing that came up before the commercial) The next plus came in the fact that Funi actually allowed some language in this show including ass(which we already knew about from the commercial), hell, damn, and I think I may be missing one. Next, the show was just good! I felt a little sad myself at Yusuke's funeral scene just from the reactions of the characters whom I've just meet, which say something good about the show. Finally it left me wanting more, I can't wait to find out what happens next week to Yusuke. Holding off until the box set release of this shows DVD will be though for me, but I think it will be well worth the wait. A+

[Jimmy Kustes]

The Yu Yu animation didn't fit when it was trying to be emotional.

[Jude Santos]

YYH was very good, Funi did a very great job! (although i think the dub is semi-average, good none-the-less). the only edit i know off is when yusuke lifts up keiko's skirt (which wasnt shown) and probably on episode 2, yusuke (in kuwabara) touches keiko's boobs to tell her that its he's still alive, that would of definatly be edited.

now to wait for pilot candidate...

[JTurner954]

After seeing this episode, I'm not so sure as to what category this fits under (drama, comedy, action, or all of the above?). It seems to start off slow taking the time to establish each character, which isn't a bad thing. I was expecting a little bit more from the pilot to establish the genre.

However, if this was a way to entice viewers to watch the episode and find out, then it did the job. This whole "dead person gets a second chance at life" plot has been done before, but this is anime so they should be able to deliver a fresh storyline (and some more interesting characters).

Grade (for now): B-

[Jowy Blight]

Well, I've now seen the Yu Yu Hakusho dub, and this is what I have to say on it.

Voices: I would say that Yusuke's voice is rather good, better then what I thought it would be. Kuwabara voice is going to take alot of getting used to, it's going to sound rather weird when he first shows up. Botan sounds like I thought she would sound, so I say it's a pretty good voice. Overall, better then what I expected from FUNI, I'd give this a 7/10.

Music: Right out of the Japanese version, they also translated the opening and closing. 10/10

Script/Edits: Rather close to the original, they cut out most of the scene were Yusuke tryed to look up Keiko's dress though (Boy was he slapped for that :D ). 8/10

Overall, I must say, it looks like FUNI is going to do this right from the start. I hope that they give Hiei a good voice. 8/10

[absix]

I missed yyh didnt i?



bleh... pilot cantidate stinks so far...

[KingKoopa]

nothing was right. PC is TV-Y7. Not only that, but it sucks. It sucks REALLY bad.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

I thought the animation was beautiful in a colorful way. The mechas looked like action figures and the dub was way off at times. I really dont understand this anime it was OK i'll keep watching though.

[White_Debbie]

YYH was fun, I like the main character (I forgot his name) because he's really stubborn....like me. The emotional parts were a little akward.

Pilot Candidate...Um...Pilot episode was..I dunno. That episode was borig, but hey, aren't most pilots? The only reasons I'm still gonna watch it is that little Clay dude. My Friend looks, acts, and sounds JUST like him. Oh, and did I mention his name is 'Clay'?

Gundam Whats-it's-name: Hmm...it seems to be like any other Gundam series. Me, I'd get rid of this and put in somethin else. But it's only been on for a few minutes....

[randomguy]

I've seen DVD volume 1 of PC, and believe me, it doesn't get ANY better. As for Gundam, I agree, UC Gundam is kinda repetetive. I'd put Patlabor in its place. Truly original mecca show.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

At first i saw the animation very serious and semi-outdated. Now i can see it adds more of an action appeal to it making it more "adult" which some people have been wanting. It seems good so far and i thought that butch girl was funny :) i'll continue watching as i am i gundam fan.

[Invader Zim]

Yu Yu Hakusho - A-(all in all good)
Pilot Candidate - D-( Sucked, hope it gets better)
GUNDAM 0083 - C ( ?? ok ??)

[KingKoopa]

I've seen 0083, it's not worth watching again for me like Cowboy Bebop was. The first hour is all I'm gonna watch until some new material comes in.

[Galaxia]

OMG - they showed the original Outlaw Star opening!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool! ^_^

[Jowy Blight]

The talking during PC was off at quite a few points. The pilot didn't make much sense at all to me. I can only hope it gets better....

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by SpikeJet143
OMG - they showed the original Outlaw Star opening!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool! ^_^ Yeah, its strange.

Also, I noticed that they could take that exact version of Gundam 0083, slap a TV-Y7 rating on it, and put it on Toonami.

"This stolen Zaku handles like an elephant!" :p

If you didn't know, it was originally:

"This god damn Zaku handles like a piece of ****!"

[Matt Hazuda]

Originally posted by SpikeJet143
OMG - they showed the original Outlaw Star opening!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool! ^_^ I was just about to say that myself!
Pilot Candidate: E-
Fundam: 0083 B+
Outlaw Star: A(seen the ep already, but bonus for showing original opening, here's to hoping we get to see the "I'm A Pioneer" Tenchi opening with subs, and the Tenchi Universe opening which is dubbed, but still good)

[Djm912]

Yu Yu Hashako: Not bad. I think I've become a fan of Botan right away.

I only watched CB a few times so now I'm glad I can catch it on a Saturday night. ;)

Pilot Candidates had a nice look to it. The mecha did look weird but in an appealing way. And I always love the mysterious characters. This show already has plenty of them. I'll let the Y7 rating slide because of the intrigue.

Gundam 0083: Come on!!! It's Gundam. What would you rather see, people? DBZ?!! Damn! . . . . bunch of feddies. Just kidding :p

I don't want to bother going through Tenchi and Outlaw Star.

[Nabuca]

Review of Adult Swim Action
Yu Yu Hakusho
Very, very good so far, I will definitly buy the DVDS. Great job by Funimation for finally stepping up to the plate and becoming a real anime company.

Toonami Candidate For Horrible Evangelion Knock-off (Pilot Candidate)
Enough Said

Gundam 0083
Already a very good show but its a shame that they used the Toonami edit after all. The rumor is that they are going back into the blood cuts and putting them back in. It is a shame but who expects WS to spend money on reediting....

[Detra]

We've seen all the new shows, so I'll post my reviews.

Yu-Yu Hakusho:
This show very much reminds me of DBZ, the animation is very similar. That being said, I thought it was pretty good. Not great, but not bad, I suppose I should wait till more episodes, but I think It has potential.

Pilot Canidate:
The animation is absolutly amazing, I loved that part of it. The one thing about this series is that it doesn't even seem like a Gundam series, but it's good nonetheless. I'll certainly be looking forward to future episodes.

Gundam 0083:
For the first 10 minutes I watched this show but didn't remember anything about it, it seemed very boring. But the last half redeemed it, it seemed a bit more interesting. (The funniest part was when the one character asked for no carrots, but the lunch dude gave him a huge pile of them, and he freaked out)

...They showed the opening to Outlaw Star! Man, I'm psyched.

-Detra

[Galaxia]

they might have kept the opening theme, but everything is still the same (aka the Toonami version), but I already knew that was going to happen, heh!

That new Adult Swim voice is scaring me....the one that says the lil' disclaimer at the beginning of each show...eep! :eek:

[Chibi Kageboshi]

I AGREE!!! its very creepy!!!!!!!!

[Sheamon]

Got nothing but praise tonight. Well mostly :p

Yu Yu Hakusho: An alright show, nothing special, but its enough to bring me back for more next week ;) Animation was rather poor (which is to be expected considering its 10 years old). Music was alright, and it had an alright plot for the first episode. I do have one thing that I have a lot of praise for, the dub. Although an average dub when compared to everything else, you have to keep in mind that this is by FUNI. The same company that gave us the worst dub ever made, the dub that is still horrible today despite the fact that the actors have over 100 episodes of experience. Yes, DBZ. After my experience with FUNI's DB and DBZ dubs, I was expecting something horrible. It was far from that. Simply amazing for FUNI, I found every voice quite good, despite the fact that they usually sound so bad on Dragonball Z ^_^
Overall Grade: B-
Dub Grade for FUNI: A+

Cowboy Bebop: What can I say? The first part of the best anime ending of all time. Nuff said.
Grade: A+

Candidate For Goddess: I wonder why they call it 'Pilot Candidate' yet have its true translation, 'Candidate for Goddess' in the opening sequence. Oh well. It reminded me a lot of Zoids. Especially in the rather lackluster plot and character department. I don't think the dub was done by Animaze, but it features Animaze actors (the main character was Michel in 8th MS Team and the blonde was Kiki) so I expect something good out of it. The imagery was great, especially the Goddesses. But outside of that, a rather lackluster and boring episode. Certainly the downpoint of the night.
Grade: D

Stardust Memory: A great, action packed Gundam series which I'm sure I'll enjoy immensely. Enthralling first episode setting up what will probably be a big battle next week. Another Animaze dub, glad to see it. The tie ins to the original were also nice ^_^
Grade: A-

Although I can't stand the Outlaw Star opening, it was good to see it there.

I still think they should change the name of the block, but outside of that no complaints. I just loved the commercials/intros/etc. Way better than the original pool one. Can't wait for next Saturday.

Grade for the night: B+

[JTurner954]

Pilot Candidate: I had high hopes after seeing the trailer on The Big O Dvd's. But then those expectations went down. The dubbing was WAY off at times and I wasn't too involved with this series like I was with Yu Yu Hakusho. The ending did leave a sign for improvement, so I will see Episode 2. Overall grade: C-

Gundam 0083: Cool opening theme. Best animation so far. I've never seen any other Gundam series so I have some questions:

What does GM mean (Gundam)?

Who is that guy in the white who steals that one particular Gundam?

Who or what is Gundam Jack?

As far as my review, I like the two male and female characters. This episode didn't have a lot of action, but I still liked it anyway. I have very high expectations to see Episode 2. Grade: B+

[Matt Hazuda]

well Tenchi got the original opening along with the credits in english, something the DVD set did not have. Even though ep is editted, it still gets a B+ for showing the real openings, plus I like this ep to begin with :D

[Matt Hazuda]

Originally posted by JTurner954
Pilot Candidate: I had high hopes after seeing the trailer on The Big O Dvd's. But then those expectations went down. The dubbing was WAY off at times and I wasn't too involved with this series like I was with Yu Yu Hakusho. The ending did leave a sign for improvement, so I will see Episode 2. Overall grade: C-

Gundam 0083: Cool opening theme. Best animation so far. I've never seen any other Gundam series so I have some questions:

What does GM mean (Gundam)?

Who is that guy in the white who steals that one particular Gundam?

Who or what is Gundam Jack?

As far as my review, I like the two male and female characters. This episode didn't have a lot of action, but I still liked it anyway. I have very high expectations to see Episode 2. Grade: B+ Don't know about Gm, but the gundam jack got me until I got it meant Gundamjack as pertaining to hijack or carjack. At first I thought it was a name or something :p

[Sheamon]

>>What does GM mean (Gundam)?

GMs are the mass produced weaker versions of the Gundam. Their heads are obviously different, they have only one beam sabre instead of 2, and lack the Core Fighter that enables the Gundam to turn into a fighter jet.

>>Who is that guy in the white who steals that one particular Gundam?

Anavel Gato, from what I hear a Char clone. Seems pretty cool so far. Apparantly he's trying to revive Zeon, aka the bad guys.

>>Who or what is Gundam Jack?

The title for the episode, nothing more.

[Ravenger]

I'm new but I might as well review the first Adult Swim Action and enter myself into the conversation of the forum.

Yu-Yu Hasusho- This was much better then expected. Many people thought that it would be bad in the dub department since Funimation was on the job but it turned out to be quite good. It has earned a fair reputation on the line up from episode one. The episode its self was a good and wasn't afraid to show its true colors. It had death, mouthing off, and some comdey. How can you go wrong with that?

Rating: 8 out of 10

Cowboy Bebop- We all know about Cowboy Bebop since it was a founding show for Adult Swim so why dwell on its rating on a show.. it rocks and you know it =-p. "The Real Folk Blues" is a great episode and is an excellent end for Cowboy Bebop. It brings everything for everyone to a head. It has everything expected of Cowboy Bebop and is very memorable to the fans of the show.

Rating: 10 out of 10

Pilot Canaidate- Pilot Canaidate is something that fell below expectations for me... it looked like something that should have been on Toonami in the first place. The CG animation is the only thing that kept me watching but the story isn't too in depth and interesting. Plus the main character having the same squeaky, annoying voice of Tai from Digimon didn't help either. Hopefully things pick up later on.

Rating: 6 out of 10

Gundam 0083- Gundam 0083 is typical Gundam so thats a good place to start. For those who didn't get to watch the end of Mobile Suit Gundam or Gundam 0080 which is a lot, the One Year War is over in this series and explains the lingering Zeon in this series. The first episode was sort of slow... but out of all of the Gundam series we've seen dubbed... none are really exciting off the bat. I was though happy to see some action leaving a cliffhanger and getting the story off to a good start.

Rating: 8 out 10

Outlaw Star- Ok... there is ONE thing i'll give credit to on this.. they did show the cool looking original Outlaw Star opening. Other then that... having Outlaw Star on Adult Swim is kinda pointless if it is restricted to its Toonami dubbed state. Other then that... if you've seen Outlaw Star on Toonami... its the same thing. Outlaw Star is a good series.. the first episode is good... its just out of place.

Duel Ratings
Toonami Rating: 10 out of 10
Adult Swim Rating: 6 out of 10

Tenchi Muyo- Same deal only we didn't get the cool intro like Outlaw Star. Tenchi Muyo is a good series but is still out of place in the Adult Swim line up... plus its a bit confusing where Tenchi belongs with Tenchi Muyo on Adult Swim Action and Tenchi in Tokyo on Toonami. Its good if you like the series but if you've seen it on Toonami don't expect anything extra.

Duel Ratings:
Toonami Rating: 8 out of 10
Adult Swim Rating: 5 out of 10

Overall Line Up Review- Overall the line up is ok. Again... Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo are definatly out of place... Pilot Canaidate is somewhat out of place so far but it may pick up. As for Gundam 0083, Cowboy Bebop, and Yu-Yu Hakusho... these are great shows and are good additions to Adult Swim line up.

Overall Rating(average): 7

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by Sheamon
>>
>>Who is that guy in the white who steals that one particular Gundam?

Anavel Gato, from what I hear a Char clone. Seems pretty cool so far. Apparantly he's trying to revive Zeon, aka the bad guys.



He differs from Char in that his motives are out in the open and he has no ulterior motives. For Char, his involvement in the war was more personal and complicated. One could say that Gato is Char with the battle skills and pride but without the cunning, selfishness, charisma and conniving.

Oh yeah, and he's not a Newtype. That's a pretty major difference, I guess. ;)

[Killtacular]

I've removed Pilot Candidate and Gundam 0083 from the AS page. I think people know why.

Here are a couple of edits, in case you didn't get the drift.

1) Beer removed from 0083.

2) Dialogue changes in 0083 like "hell" to "heck", "damn" to "darn", "killed" to "eliminated".

3) Cigarette in Pilot Candidate changed to a TOOTHPICK. Apparently when you're done with a toothpick you put it out.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Didn't watch it, but I've seen most of these shows before elsewhere.

Pilot Candidate--Doesn't really get much "better." If you liked what you saw, you should like the rest. Fun for some, generic for others. C+

Gundam 0083--Extremely lavish designs combined with impressive animation makes this a winner. Political intrigue and action drives this show rather than characterizations and logic. The main characters become more and more immature and ludicrous as the show goes on. If not for one despicable villain I fell in love with (hubba hubba...you'll see her soon enough) , all the characters are B grade by Gundam standards. But the action and climax rocks. B+


Yu Yu Hakusho--Martial arts fighting anime mixed with supernatural mystery. I loved the first 6 episodes' humour, sentimentality and originality--but later episodes became more of a DBZ fight fest. Should be popular with DBZ fans after the mushy first few episodes are out of the way. B


Won't list the rest, we've talked enough about them.

[Jude Santos]

they also edited the part where zero falls into hiead. the amazing thing about the PC edits were the toothpcks were unnoticeable(anyone else agree?). when he throws the cig in the floor and puts it out by stepping on it(in the uncut version), in the edited version, when he steps on the toothpick, it actually breaks. so at least i give them points on that, if theyre gonna have edits, at least make it look unnoticeable.

also, i thought PC was supposed to be tv-pg? is it gonna be tv pg next week?

[JTurner954]

Outlaw Star: I didn't understand why Gene Starwind was in space in the beginning, but I liked it the more the episode progressed. Good animation, great character. Nice twist at the end. Definitely looking forward to Episode 2. Grade: B

Tenchi: At first, it looked stupid. Then it went on, and it got some chuckles out of me. Some of Tenchi's comment sounded like something Ray Romano would say. One question: How did the girl escape if the rock was put back together? Defintely worth watching. OVerall grade: B

In conclusion, this new Adult Swim is very impressive. I would say that the weakest show is Pilot Candidate. If it for me, Tenchi wopuld probably fit more on Adult Swim and Big O can replace that time slot. OVerall grade for today: A- since I was very entertained tonight.

With Superman and Batman afterwards, my night is complete. Thumbs up Cartoon Network.

[Galaxia]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson


3) Cigarette in Pilot Candidate changed to a TOOTHPICK. Apparently when you're done with a toothpick you put it out.

LOL!!

Did anyone notice the little ad about Chuck Jones before Bebop went on? It showed a drawing of him and it said "We'll Miss You". I thought that was pretty nice.

Ohhhh who saw the new Bebop ads? I have the one with the "Autumn on Ganymeade" BGM on tape - they showed it right after Yu Yu Hakusho. I don't have the other great one with the "Rush" BGM (Beau Billingslea narrates that one - w00t! XD ) on tape yet.

[Jude Santos]

3) Cigarette in Pilot Candidate changed to a TOOTHPICK. Apparently when you're done with a toothpick you put it out.

thats the part i was concerned for, but it was unnoticeable though, it doesnt even look like he smoked the toothpick, he just threw it in the ground and stepped on it (now if he took a puff on the toothpick, now that would be funny, but he was just holding it up). anyway is PC gonna be tv-y7 all throughout, or is it gonna change to tv-pg like next week? just curious, cuz in the AS website, its listed as tv-pg. false advertising?

[Jude Santos]

Candidate For Goddess: I wonder why they call it 'Pilot Candidate' yet have its true translation, 'Candidate for Goddess' in the opening sequence. Oh well. It reminded me a lot of Zoids.

you know why it reminds you of zoids? becuase its the same studio that made the CG, Xebec.

[LStorm2000]

Yu Yu Hakusho was everything I hoped it to be. Not much I can say- it was near perfect.
Cowboy Bebop was Cowboy Bebop. I just hope it is replaced before it goes into it's 7th run.
Pilot Candidate was just bad. Horrid. Ick. :shivers:
Gundam 0083 was ok. Nothing great but not bad. Hopefully it will get better.

overall, a pretty decent block so far.

[William C. Maune]

[indent]Did they show the original opening for Tenchi? I'm seeing conflicting posts here. The opening for the first 7 episodes is what Toonami used for the ending during all episodes of Tenchi Muyo! The "I'm a Pioneer" opening is not until episodes 8 through 13.

[Watagashi]

I fell asleep right after Yu Yu Hakusho, so I can only post a review on that:

The story got me hooked right when it started. The animation wasn't exactly phenominal, but it was still good as the storyline added seroiusness and comedy as well. But the irony of it seems to be the dominator of this series. Overall, it was an excellent show. It sorta reminded me of DBZ, especially when they were talking about the spirit world, but it still has a lot more to go. I'm definitely gonna try and watch this again. :)

(Okay, so I'm not really eighteen or older, but hey, it's still cool.) :D

[Djm912]

"Anavel Gato, from what I hear a Char clone. Seems pretty cool so far. Apparantly he's trying to revive Zeon, aka the bad guys."

Let's try and keep this debate to the Toonami forum. ;)

I like the ASA voice more than the other one. I guess old people in a pool doesn't appeal to me as much as a creepy computer voice.

Am I the only one who's going to give Candidate(whatever the title is) a chance? Yes it is edited for Toonami, but there's just something about it that I can't quite explain.

[Invader Zim]

thats the part i was concerned for, but it was unnoticeable though, it doesnt even look like he smoked the toothpick, he just threw it in the ground and stepped on it (now if he took a puff on the toothpick, now that would be funny, but he was just holding it up). anyway is PC gonna be tv-y7 all throughout, or is it gonna change to tv-pg like next week? just curious, cuz in the AS website, its listed as tv-pg. false advertising?

well in the Pilot Candidate comercial the little kid says "im gonna kick your ass" or something like that, theyd be stupid to edit it out, but they might

[Jude Santos]

Am I the only one who's going to give Candidate(whatever the title is) a chance? Yes it is edited for Toonami, but there's just something about it that I can't quite explain.

i know, PC is a good series (ive seen 6 eps.). nothing just happens in the first episode, you cant judge a series by the first episode, just wait until something happens (next week's episode's and the following) and we'll see if y'all still think its bad

[Jude Santos]

well in the Pilot Candidate comercial the little kid says "im gonna kick your ass" or something like that, theyd be stupid to edit it out, but they might

that was from YYH.

[Sora Takenouchi]

Guess I'll post my own lil' review. ^_^


Yu Yu Hakusho
I thought this series was AMAZING. I loved Yusuke (he's not such a bad guy ;) ) and the stroy's premise is really nice. This show had comedy, action, and drama all nicely rolled up in a neat little package. Plus, for a FUNi dub, this was really good! Yusuke's voice is just perfect for him and Botan actually seems better with that accent of hers. Christopher Sabat as Kuwabara will take some getting used to though. :b But overall, it was great. I wonder when all the yaoi comes in? ;)A+


Cowboy Bebop
We all know this is the best anime ever made. No need to elaborate. A+


Pilot Candidate
They used the original title in the title card so why still call it Pilot Candidate. Not action-packed enough? Whatever. This first episode didn't seem to go anywhere. It looks like the guy who did Tai from Digimon is doing Zero's voice. I think I also heard Joe in there. Is this an Animaze dub? I mean, the dubbing was WAAAAAY off at points. Characters talked fast and awkward. Well, the premise seems a little interesting. I'll wait for more before I pass final judgement. C


Gundam 0083
Not my favorite Gundam series, but an all right one. I've seen the first 8 episodes uncut already and the edits in this one seemed ridiculous. So Gundamjack was meant in the context of hijack or carjack? Now I get it. :rolleyes: B+


Outlaw Star
They used the original opening! :D B

Tenchi Muyo
Original opening! An all right show I've seen already. C+

[MeatWad]

Yu-Yu Hakusho-It was cool! I loved this episode of Yu-Yu! Yuskae is supposed to be all bad,but he saved a little kid,and the little kid praying for Yuskae was so cute! I wanna see what the ordeal is.

Cowboy Bebop-Gee,I'm the number one fan,no doubt I loved TRFB Pt.1. The only part I didn't understand was when Faye said
"Something About That Guy..." Alfrado. I didn't get that,I've always been trying to figure that out since forever!

Pilot Candidate-This is one of my Fave animes! That Canidate number 89 bumped into 88 and 88 exploded. That was funny! The fight between 88 and that blond dude made me burst out laughing cause his pants fell down,it's like a moment on Whats With Andy cause Andy's pants always fall down sooner or later.

Gundam 0083-The fact that it was copywrighted in 1990,It was pretty good. There was barley no scenes that were memerable to me,except that 'date' scene.

Outlaw Star-I thought this was funny. Not the fact that the show was funny,but I only saw two eppy's of Outlaw Star and this was one of them I saw. I wonder why Racheal did that to Gene...and I wonder what she's gonna make Jim do. This is such a suspence anime. Can't wait till next Saturday for this!

Tenchi Muyo-The demon thing in Tenchi's bed,I kinda knew that,This eppy is sorta predictiable. I knew:Tenchi was gonna get the keys,Tenchi finds the demon,and that the demon is gonna try and kick Tenchi's ass. I just like it,though

[randomguy]

"Something About That Guy..."

The reason she recognizes him is because he's one of the two hosts for the "Big Shot for the Bounty Hunters" show that Spike watches. Look carefully and you'll see the resemblance pretty quickly. He just fakes the accent on the show. If you'll remember, Big Shot was cancelled in "Hard Luck Woman", which is why the guy mentions his co-host, who is supposedly going to marry her agent.

[Mr. Obsession]

Let's see, I turned on the TV right in time for Justice League (because I wanted to) and my roommate Mark decided to stick around and watch, because while he's not much of an animation fan I've be able to get him hooked on JL and Samurai Jack. :cool: Anyway he decided to stick around for ASA and enjoyed it, I however, was a bit disappointed.

Oh yes, and they played the opening in BB out of order. It's suppose to come after Bruce Wayne shuts off the lights to the Batcave in "Rebirth". :mad:

YYH: Good God, this series kicks ass! This is the way FUNi should be doing their acquisitions, and it looks like they've been learning from their past mistakes. Good Job FUNi! I'm looking forward to next week, Mark isn't, it was to weird for his taste.


CB: Good as always, and that promo was indeed awesome. :) Before CB started I warned him that it was the end of the series, but he wanted to watch it anyway. At the end he was hooked and right now he's going through my CB DVD's like there's no tomorrow. Isn't a beautiful thing when a new fan is born. :D


PC/CFG: Ugh! This has got to be one of the single worst dubs to ever assault my ears. :( And I usually like Dubs. Let's see: We had the Godzilla effect all over the place, either the mouth was moving and nothing was coming out or the mouth was moving incredibly fast and the voice was coming out relatively slowly. :mad: The script sounded like they took the direct translation from the Japanese script and gave it to the VA's rather than cleaning it up first so it actually make more sense to your average NA English speaker. :mad: :mad: I mean I like translations to be as close as possible, but tonight I found out you can get one that's too close. And then there's the whole "promoting it as 'Pilot Candidate' but leaving in 'The Candidate for Goddess' title'." :confused:

As for the rest of PC, the music sounded like it was ripped straight from a crappy video game, kind of like FUNi's DBZ music, only PC's had a higher budget. And I didn't think that the CGI mixed all that well with the rest of the animation. And then there's the character designs, but that's an entirely different discussion. :rolleyes:

I'll keep on watching it out of the slim hope that it will get better. Mark however thought it was ok.


0083: Let me put it this way -- 0083 is everything PC should have been, 'nuff said. :) And Mark liked it too.

At this point I decided to go to bed, because OS, Tenchi were nothing I hadn't seen before, and I didn't want to stay up that late for Batman and Superman (and yes I know they weren't a part of ASA) but I did have my VCR running so I'll probably watch those shows this afternoon.

[Sheamon]

Is this an Animaze dub?
Its definately got the Animaze actors (recognized a few from 8th MS Team), but I don't think it was an Animaze dub. It obviously shows; despite using the same actors, dubs like Love Hina come out horrible when its not done by Animaze, looks like PC will be another example.

[Shnay]

I know everything has pretty much been said already about these shows, but I figure I'll post my review anyway. I'm fairly new to anime, (just got into it in the past year or so) so a few of these shows were entirely new to me.

Yu-Yu Hakusho: This looks like it has a lot of potential. I thought the first episode was great, the characters and premise were interesting, and I thought the emotional scenes were done pretty well.

Cowboy Bebop: Excellent as always. We all love CB. I think it may be good to only have it once a week (a "good things in moderation" sort of thing).

Pilot Candidate: Well, I'd like to give this show some time to develop, and I hope it will get better (as I really didn't like anything about the first episode). But...I'm not exactly optimistic that this series will improve.

Gundam 0083: Seemed pretty much like typical Gundam fare, which isn't a bad thing. I liked the action in the second half of the show, and the characters (who I sort of wrote-off in the beginning) grew on me by the end of the show. It looks like it should be pretty good, but nothing really 'new.'

Outlaw Star/Tenchi Muyo!: There's really not much point in including the Toonami versions here. If there were even some edit changes made, I'd be sure to catch them each week. But, since it's just the same thing we've seen SO many times before, I think I'll just go to bed an hour earlier.

[Jude Santos]

they have to market Candidate for Goddess as Pilot Candidate (but still wanted to keep the original title) becuase the public may get a wrong idea when they hear "candidate for goddess", me myself thought it was a shoujo when i first heard about it (actually i thought i thought it was a bunch of girls competing to be goddess's). so thats why they had it changed to Pilot Candidate. and guys, dont bash PC just yet, its just the first episode, Bebop's first episode to me wasnt great at all, but look how it turned out (yes, i didnt like bebop when i first saw it, but now its my favorite).

edit: o yea, gundam 0083, i have the first dvd, and i was actually quite bored in the third and 4th episodes, also, there might be a lot of edits in 0083, lots of swearing (like 20 times each episodes) and some episodes go over the 30 minute mark.

[Cactusjack1999]

(I'm only gonig to review the new stuff here cause everyone's seen everything else)

YYH - Not half bad for a first episode. Though the opening confused me alot till about the last 3rd of the episode then it all started to make sence. I'm going to have to go with an B+ for the episode

Pilot Candidate - After the first five seconds of this I was thinking what everyone else was thinking. "An Eva rip off if I ever saw one." But considering I've never seen one episode of Eva (Yeah I know. Don't judge till you've seen it) I acctually liked it. True the the store is a tad hackneed, but I liked it for what it was. Plus teh whole "High speed Pants-ing" part had me rolling.
Grade for the episode A- (Yeah I know I'm gonig against the grain here but I've never seen Eva, but I am going to try and rent a DVD of Eva one of these days)

Outlaw Star - I've seen the episode before. But not the opening. I have to admit I liked it. Opening - B Yeah just a straight B. But I hope they don't use the toonami edit. I mean who wants to see the "invisible blood" thing here?? Not me atleast.

Tenchi Muyo - I can't beleave I stayed up till about 2 am to see an extended ending. D- through and through. I didn't stay up to see the end credits but if they used hte "Toonami edit" (Yes It's listed in the credits) for this my rating's going straight to an F

[dawnyoshi]

Oh yeah, and also to say I'm new and nice to meet you all.

Yu Yu Hakusho: I saw the movie before this at a friend's house before, where as I didn't understand a crap going on. Now that I have seen this awesome first episode, I understand it now. After this, I have no right to harass FUNi anymore...that is until I watch DBZ again, which sucks overall. Anyway, Hakusho is definetely an A+ .

Cowboy Bebop: One of the best. Nuff Said. A+ :D

Pilot Candidate: Oh COME ON! If it's on the ADULT SWIM, it should be as LESS EDITED as possible! Either way, it sucks. D :mad:

Gundam 0083: Didn't catch all of this, but not bad. Didn't catch my interest as much either, but I'll give it some chance, even with teh lame pathetic pile of crap censors. C+

Outlaw Star: Until they offer something different from the toonami version and actually give a reason why it should be on teh Adult Swim, I refuse to watch it or review it.

Tenchi: Same as Outlaw Star.

Overall, I was impressed for the first hour of the shows on here. However, this block disappointed me to my most honest opinion.
Final Score: B-

Edit: Sorry about that spam. I kept getting some darn errors about web site downtime for me. Oh well. Problem taken care of.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

THANKS FOR THE SPAM!!!!!!

[Sheamon]

An Eva rip off if I ever saw one
How is it an Eva ripoff? I wish lazy people would actually think before throwing out crap like that.

[Sir Gatts]

Yu Yu Hakusho was a good watch. My opinion is that this series could pick up over the next few episodes once we get to know more about the main characters.

Pilot Candidate reminded me more of Neon Genesis Evangelion, not sure why. I expect more action with comedy and less of a story line with this series. I'm guessing that with the edits such as the "toothpick", that Cartoon Network had this series for quite some time now and planed for the series to air for the Toonami block. I'm sure most of you remember Blue Submarine No.6 with the famous smoking toothpick which aired on Toonami. I'm just worried that CN is trying to slowly kill off the Toonami block in favor of Adult Swim. Of course this could all just be my paranoia at work.

Gundam 0083 for now seems to cross the theme of MSG and 08th MS team. It looks to be very action and story line promising. One of the AS bumpers showed a cool arm gib so I guess this series will have very few edits later in the series.

Outlaw Star and Tenchi Muyo don't seem to be any different from what had aired on the Toonami block. They did show the original CN opening themes and left out the Toonami openers. It's kind of ironic that you'd see the Toonami name in the credits of Tenchi Muyo but I'd have to give the Toonami cast the credit for the good editing work that was done to TM.

[Cactusjack1999]

How is it an Eva ripoff? I wish lazy people would actually think before throwing out crap like that.

Sheamon where do you get off calling me lazy. Like I said, that what I thought it was going to be like but it wasn't.

Jeez. I mean seriously I said that while watching the show's opening battle if you could call it that.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Well, here's my two cents.

Yu Yu Hakusho: Very nice. None of the limited edits that were made were noticeable unless you were looking for them. I like the story, and the dubbing is pretty good. The only thing I didn't really care for was Kuwabara's vioce actor. It's teh same guy that does Vegeta on DBZ, and while the tough-guy aspect of his voice was there, he sounded like he was in his thirties instead of middle school. All in all, an A-.

Pilot Candidate/ Candidate For Goddess:
Bad Dubbing+Bad Script+Bad CGI= Crappy first episode.
Although, it does have the funniest line I've heard in an anime show in a long while: "Let's first get some food!" I know this doesn't sound like a laugh riot, but try repeating it out loud, and listen to how ridiculous it sounds. As a few people have said, it gets better, and I sure hope it does. Aside from being the biggest Evangelion ripoff in recent memory (I'll go into that later), the first ep was mediocre at best. C+.

Gundam 0083: Huzzah for Gundam 0083! Aside from Cowboy Bebop, the highlight of the night for me. The animation is good for the late 80's, the dubbing is very good, and the new Gundams, GP-01 & GP-02, are awesome. I can't wait for next week's episode. A.


Originally posted by Sheamon
How is it an Eva ripoff? I wish lazy people would actually think before throwing out crap like that.
How is PC an Eva rip-off? Let me count the ways:

1. The pilots of the Godesses are all 17 or under. In Eva, the pilots are all 15.

2. The new, young pilot, on his first day at the academy, just happens to synchronize with the main Goddess perfectly. In Eva, the first time Shinji ever gets into his Eva, he's able to synch with it, and defeat the angel within a matter of minutes (no thanks to unit one).

3. When the new pilot completes synchronizing with the Goddess, he starts having visions of... stuff. In the latter half of Eva, this is almost all Shinji does in Unit One.

4. The "cockpits" of the Goddesses are full of a clear, breathable liquid. Same with the Evangelion entry plugs (the LCL).

5. The three new pilots we're introduced to at the beginning of the series on the transport to the Goddess Academy: A quiet, white-haired one, a loud, obnoxious, full-of-himself one, and a pasty, geeky-looking one. Sounds like Shinji, Asuka, and Rei to me.

There's a bunch more too, but I don't feel like typing it. So, you see Sheamon? It isn't just "lazy people throwing out crap".

[Andy Mancini]

I too, thought that "Canidate for Goddess" was a rip-off of "Evangelion". I actually had high hopes going into this. After all, all the reviews I heard before last night's (or this morning's, depending on your point of view) airings were all very high. Still, I was very disappointed. Where to begin... Let's see... First off, the whole idea of "giant mechs protecting a handful of humans" concept has been done before, most notably Gundam. Secondly, I usually like to like at one of the main characters (good, bad, anti-hero, it doesn't matter) in a show when I watch it. After watching PC, not only did I not like the characters introduced last night, I was hoping that all of them would all get sucked into the vacuum of space, never to return. As far the whole "Evangelion rip-off" arguement goes, I found two specific examples. First, canidate 84 (I think he was 84, the guy with the glasses) seemed a whole like Shinji's friend Aida, the war buff. He had the same look and general demenor of Aida. Secondly, the final scene where our "hero" (that term used loosely) Zero completely interfaced with one the goddesses was almost exactly the same as the scene where Shinji bonded with his Eva. Everything, including the "how could this be? It's just not possible" feel of Evangelion was in that scene. The only difference was that Zero "accidentally" fell into the goddess, while Shinji was forced to fight an Angel. Still. I'll give it a little bit of time. It's bound to get better.

DJ Gir

[Eddy]

Yu Yu Hakusho - It was good so far. I need to watahc more to get into it. I love Botan, though!

I didn't bother to watch Piolet-whatever or Gundom 0083.

Outlaw Star - WOW! The THEME SONG! I hope they show unedute one's soon.

Tenchi Muyo! - I love Tenchi Muyo! But I'd like to see it un-edited...

[Karva]

Here's my quicke review for the night. For more detailed reviews, go to each individual show on it's episode guide.

Yu Yu Hakusho - Great show, I want to see more! *waits impatiently for the next episode*

Pilot Candidate - This is a terrible show. I wanted to kill myself when I was watching it. I'll give it a couple more chances... But if it doesn't shape up soon, I'm going to boycott it. :P

Cowboy Bebop - Not one of the best episodes, but it didn't suck either.

Gundam 0083 - I was surprised about how much I liked this show. I plan on watching it again.

Outlaw Star - Pretty good, although I went to bed halfway through it. From what I saw, though, I liked it.

Tenchi Muyo! - It's Tenchi! ... How could you NOT like this?!

Anyway, Saturday Night Adult Swim isn't THAT bad, but they gotta get more adult orientated shows... Enough with this TV-Y7 crap. And they should get rid of PC if it keeps sucking like this.

[Chiltar]

Dr. Reef, I belive 'twas you that said, and I quote: "2. The new, young pilot, on his first day at the academy, just happens to synchronize with the main Goddess perfectly. In Eva, the first time Shinji ever gets into his Eva, he's able to synch with it, and defeat the angel within a matter of minutes (no thanks to unit one). "
Now I must deflate this. A, he did NOT synchronize with the MAIN Goddess, which is the White Goddess. He synchronized with the Grey Goddess. B, it didn't, as you put it, just happen. It was the will of the Goddess, and since I don't say spoilers, I will leave it at that. And I like Pilot Candidate. Even if the words don't match the lips, thats not what anime's about. It's about FUN. Concentrate too hard on the technical aspects and you miss the overall enthralling spirit, you aren't having fun, and then you miss the whole point. Fun is for fun. Lets keep it that way. As for the night as a whole, I must say that it has burned the very sensation of pleasure and happiness into my retina and cerebrum.

[dawnyoshi]

They could
- Drop Pilot Candidate permanently
-Get our Outlaw Star and Tenchi as uncut as TV can handle
-Replace the block for Pilot Crap with RANMA 1/2, one of the BEST animes you'll ever find. :D

[DarkMaster]

Cowboy Bebop - violence, adult situations, language <censored>
Pilot Candidate - mild violence, adult situations <censored>
Tenchi - mild violence, lauguage, adult situations <censored>
Outlaw Star - mild violence, lauguage <censored>
Yuyu Hakusho - violence, lauguage, adult situations <censored>
gundam 0083 - all of the above. <censored>

Terminator 2 cut for TV but still adult movie.

[Deltamon]

...I get the undeniable desire to review ASA, at least the main highlights:

YYH: I like. Botan was neat. Will say more after I see more eps.

PC: As one guy said, 'fun is fun'. Doesn't mean you can't have fun with a show and still think it sucks. Which is why I'm going to try and start doing a weekly misting session in the #Toonami chat me an' a few CNXers go to (actually, might open a separate chat just for the riffs) just for PC. Its to fun not to make fun of.

And on a side note, they did a better job with the 3d/2d animation mixing with Zoids, IMHO. Shame, really, since the mechs are kinda cool looking ("DUDE! I'd buy the excuse that you got the nosebleed from flying your mech too high up or something if were weren't in space and you were actually inside piloting that thing!")

Gundam 0083: I'm sticking around for this one not just 'cause I like it so far the same way I liked 8Th MS Team or because I'm a Gundam fan anyway...but because I dig Anavel Gato. Good Kitty* ;) :D :D

I'm gonna check the Toonami board now so someone might explain to me why I was not informed that Rising Sun was brought back.


*'Gato' is spanish for 'cat'. The Kitty thing should be a bit easier to get now :D :D :D

[Kesh]

Well, better late than never. :)

YYH: 30 minutes of anime bliss. I loved this whole episode! The emotional pacing was great. The comedy was in all the right places. The funeral was tear-jerking. The fights were short and brutal.

And is it just me, or is Botan absolutely, incredibly cute? :D

PC/CFG: Hm. Well, the premise has be intrigued, but the delivery was flat. People have already covered most of the problems, so I have little to add. The CGI didn't seem to fit in with the regular animation (which I thought was actually pretty good). I'll give it a shot.

MSG 0083: Not bad! The animation is a major leap above MSG, and the voices were good. The characters were interesting, though the dark-haired lead almost wasn't there. He didn't have much to do but act techie and steal a Gundam. :cool:

I have to admit, the very large female tech is pretty cool. Can't wait to see how she manages to get glasses on a date! :wakko:

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Kesh

MSG 0083: Not bad! The animation is a major leap above MSG,A decade (more or less) between the production of two related series will tend to do that. :p

[CharlieNash]

I am very happy for Adult Swim to show such wonderful new shows especially Yu Yu Hakusho. Yu Yu Hakusho was the best even though they only shown the first episode. The first episode already got my interest. Why? I captured me because the very first episode is the death of the protagonist. That was very unusual. Also, the characters are very interesting. The protagonist is a loser. His mother is a neglecting him. Some of the teachers hated his gut. His classmates fears him. And, ultimately, his death is worthless. Now, Yusuke is a big loser. However, as I hope for, it gives hope for the losers. During his funeral, opposite to what he seems to expect, he was morned deeply. His death is not a waste after all. These are the things that makes Yu Yu Hakusho's first episode to be extreamely good.

Now, that was a long review for Yu Yu Hakusho. I am to lazy to type my review for the other show.

Cowboy Bebop: Great, I have seen it before but still excellent.

Pilot Candidate: An excellent candidate for Toonami. Reminds me of Pokemon. I will wait for the next episode for any improvement.

Gundam 0083: Another excellent show. The two new Gundams looks absolutely beautiful. The story seems interesting. I also recommend this one after Yu Yu Hakusho.

[Feslmogh]

When I first saw AS on Saturday, I admit I was scratching my head. No pool video, the computer voice dictating the warning (where can I get that program?), I thought Williams St. changed everything! But the original AS was on last night so I sighed a big relief and look forward for two nights of AS.

Yu Yu Hakusho- Same as the others. Looking foward to more episodes.

The others (except CB and Tenchi)- SUCKED!

CB- Dissiapointed missing the episode where "Call Me Call Me" was palying in the background. I love that song (Got the mp3!)

Tenchi- To me this is a very funny show. That Tenchi is one luck dog, living with several chicks, all wanting to be his girl!

[Kesh]

Originally posted by Feslmogh
the computer voice dictating the warning (where can I get that program?)

Sounds like one of the voices that comes with the Macintosh speech package. I'd say someone just picked up their Mac, typed the warning into SimpleText, plugged it into the studio recorder and had it speak back the text using that voice (I can't remember what that one's name is).

Or, they may have borrowed one of those speech synthesizers used for quadraplegics, like Stephen Hawking has. Sounds the same.

[LStorm2000]

- Drop Pilot Candidate permanently

They aren't going to drop Pilot Candidate after one week. SOME people actually enjoyed it. I'm giving it a few more episodes before I would say it deserves to be dropped.


-Get our Outlaw Star and Tenchi as uncut as TV can handle

CN could have done this a while ago (remember Matt's letter) but didn't. I don't think they plan for Outlaw Star and Tenchi to be on Adult Swim Action as long as Yu Yu Hakusho will.


-Replace the block for Pilot Crap with RANMA 1/2, one of the BEST animes you'll ever find.


I doubt Ranma 1/2 will ever make it on Cartoon Network no matter what situation- Toonami, Adult Swim, etc. Even if it did, it would be so butchered down (Like Pilot Candidate) that you wouldn't want to see it.

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Originally posted by Chiltar
Dr. Reef, I belive 'twas you that said, and I quote: "2. The new, young pilot, on his first day at the academy, just happens to synchronize with the main Goddess perfectly. In Eva, the first time Shinji ever gets into his Eva, he's able to synch with it, and defeat the angel within a matter of minutes (no thanks to unit one). "
Now I must deflate this. A, he did NOT synchronize with the MAIN Goddess, which is the White Goddess. He synchronized with the Grey Goddess. B, it didn't, as you put it, just happen. It was the will of the Goddess, and since I don't say spoilers, I will leave it at that.
It's EVIL Dr. Reef! EVIL!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Anyway, my bad on the "Main Goddess" thing. But to back up my theory on Eva=PC, in Evangelion, as you find out later in the series, it's Unit One's "will" that lets Shinji sync with it so easily.

BTW, I do get the "joke of you". Chiltar, as in the opposite of Moltar (cold opposite hot). Where's my cookie?

[Sir Gatts]

Originally posted by LStorm2000
I doubt Ranma 1/2 will ever make it on Cartoon Network no matter what situation- Toonami, Adult Swim, etc. Even if it did, it would be so butchered down (Like Pilot Candidate) that you wouldn't want to see it. Just give Ranma 1/2 the Jerry Springer edit. :D

[Howard]

Personally, none of this grabbed me. Cowboy Bebop is the clear standout here. Yu Yu Hakusho looks kinda cheap, too. Pilot Candidate's mix of line art and computer animation is off-putting and draws attention to itself, taking you out of the show. Gundam put me to sleep.

[Chiltar]

Then just don't watch. Enjoy some nice infomercials. As for the synch Semi-Nasty Dr. Reef, it's not quite the blank of the blankity blank, because the blankity blank is the only one without a blank, sort of. And I love mind games, so see if you can figure it out. Besides, you'd think if people say PC is so much like Eva, why don't you just enjoy it because it is like Eva. That's like saying you don't like Sonic Adventure 2 because it's like Sonic Adventure 1. Enjoy it for what it is. And CN is working on getting Eva, or at least thinking about it. Besides, I've never seen Eva, but what I've read of it, it gives me nightmares.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

Ranma 1/2 can be shown with edits.. in Mexico they show it cut and i must say they did a good job and they show no nudity. their edits are pretty similair to Toonami's

[Eddy]

Everyone seems to love Botan! ^_^

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Chiltar
That's like saying you don't like Sonic Adventure 2 because it's like Sonic Adventure 1. Enjoy it for what it is. And CN is working on getting Eva, or at least thinking about it. Besides, I've never seen Eva, but what I've read of it, it gives me nightmares. How so? That's a horrible analogy. Sonic Adventure 2 is a direct sequel to Sonic Adventure 1. It featured the same characters, and it likely continued the plot line. Pilot Candidate isn't a "continuation" of Eva, it's just a ripoff. It doesn't feature the same characters, different people made it, I don't need to go on.

[randomguy]

You can tell PC's like Eva because people are already getting into a tussle over it and formulating ridiculous theories.

[Sheamon]

You can tell PC's like Eva because people are already getting into a tussle over it and formulating ridiculous theories.

You can tell Eva's the most over-rated anime of all time since all people can talk about are flimsy similarities that didn't originate in Eva -_-

[VinceA]

since all people can talk about are flimsy similarities that didn't originate in Eva
I just see it as a sign of when a person really got into anime. Some people will use Eva as a base of comparison, others Star Blazers (Yamato), AstroBoy, etc.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by Sheamon


You can tell Eva's the most over-rated anime of all time since all people can talk about are flimsy similarities that didn't originate in Eva -_-

People are always going to be doing this. Unless you plan on replying to every one of these kind of "it's like Eva" posts, I see no use in mentioning it every time. Just forget about it. While it's tempting to use every opportunity to bash the show you hate, from my personal experience, it is ultimately useless.

The Anientertainment forum is filled with a number of threads about shows or comparisons I don't like or agree with, but in the end, my saying "THIS SHOW SUCKS! IT'S OVERRATED! I'M TIRED OF THIS SUMMBEECH!" falls on deaf ears, and rightfully so. Unless asked for an opinion, I personally just hold my tongue and live with it.

[Sheamon]

What you fail to realize is that I'm a big Eva fan, its one of my personal favorites.

The problem with the whole Eva thing has been proven with ease. When I see people making idiotic and baseless claims like "Pilot Candidate is a ripoff of Eva" it drives me nutz. Last time I checked the mechs in PC didn't look like those in Eva! Last time I checked PC took place in space, not on Earth like Eva! Last time I checked concepts like a character ending up being a match for a mech, and a mysterious quiet girl were not revolutionary concepts invented by Eva!!! Is there something wrong with me pointing out the obvious? Ya know, this may be hard to comprehend, but the fact that Eva isn't the end all be all anime that has influenced every single show since 1995 doesn't reduce my enjoyment of the show at all. I can enjoy something without having to go around saying everything else is a ripoff of it. I'm not going around saying stuff like "PC is a ripoff of Xenogears because the Goddesses look like Vierge!(one of the mechs in Xenogears)", am I? What is so hard about about talking about the faults of the show instead of going


Pilot Candidate isn't a "continuation" of Eva, it's just a ripoff. It doesn't feature the same characters, different people made it, I don't need to go on.
or

You can tell PC's like Eva because people are already getting into a tussle over it and formulating ridiculous theories.

Why don't we start put some substance in our posts instead of wasting time saying that crap and forcing me to start ranting like this?! Is it possible to talk about any mecha show post-1995 without bringing Eva up? Oh yes, I forgot. People can say "eva ripoff" over and over again without complaint yet the second I talk about something that was brought up by somebody else in the first place I'm wasting my time on worthless opinions that are falling on deaf ears.

By simply not praising the show 100% in every single one of my posts I'm labelled a hater of the show. By simply bringing up the possibility that maybe everything isn't a ripoff of Eva I'm labeled a hater of the show. Gee whilickers, maybe thats why I say Eva is over-rated. :rolleyes:

I'm gonna do something that may seem a little strange, but I'm actually gonna say why I didn't like Pilot Candidate instead of saying "RRRRRIIIIIPPPPPPOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!"
-The dub, despite having Animaze actors was rather poor and certain voices seemed to goofy.
-I found the limited action in this episode unsatisfying.
-Very little in plot terms happened. I wouldn't have a problem if they spent the time instead developing interesting characters like Bebop or Escaflowne, or *gasp* Eva, but since I found the characters rather boring and cliche I do have a problem.
-In case you don't know, I didn't care much for Zoids. It REMINDED (i don't use that 'other term, ripoff) me a lot of Zoids with the animation and the way the episode seemed to be structured. I certainly hope it doesn't end up like Zoids, but what the first ep showed me isn't enough at this point to tell me that it won't be.
-And the typical 'lame edits' thing :P

[randomguy]

Why don't we start put some substance in our posts instead of wasting time saying that crap and forcing me to start ranting like this

Sheamon, two words- CALM DOWN. I was making a joke
I don't mean to offend you, but I think you need to lighten up. People are just expressing their opinions, nobody's FORCING you to rant. And please don't tell me I'm saying crap. Please, just lighten up. What I said was in good humor.

[randomguy]

It's just a matter of everybody keeping the importance of their cartoon shows in perspective. Or, more appropriately, me trying to do so.

[Vicious Malfoy]

The computer voice on the commercials,to me, sounds alot like they guys in Daft Punk when they were advertising for the special music video night on toonami. And they shouldnt keep screwing up the lineup for adult swim, its like they are on crack or something. At least its a good thing :rolleyes:

[Chiltar]

Hehe, randomguy, I think it was you who said to put the importance of cartoons in prespective. I think there are enough otakus, nerds, mabey even a few geeks enough in this board to tar and feather you. As for Adult Swim Action's edits, why not check out the interveiw. You can find the link on Toonami Arsenal. Calm down, enjoy. Williams Street and CN as a whole are doing this for us, the fans (and mabey the paycheck). So sit back, relax, and enjoy. How can you complain with a block full of dead kids with superpowers, cowboys bustin baddies throughout the big black exapanse of space, huge mech battles with space dragons, huge mech warriors in an interstellar army, the universe's most eligible bachelor, and outlaws beating the crap out of pirates? Lie down, recline, chill, and enjoy.

[Mysterious Saturn]

I happened to like Pilot Candidate. More so than Cowboy Bebop. I like Bebop, but I just think its over rated. Like all the Gundam series.

[randomguy]

Thank you Chiltar, you just might be the voice of reason on these boards :D

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Originally posted by Sheamon
When I see people making idiotic and baseless claims like "Pilot Candidate is a ripoff of Eva" it drives me nutz. Last time I checked the mechs in PC didn't look like those in Eva! Last time I checked PC took place in space, not on Earth like Eva! Last time I checked concepts like a character ending up being a match for a mech, and a mysterious quiet girl were not revolutionary concepts invented by Eva!!!
Right on all three counts, Sheamon. I never said that ALL of PC is an Eva ripoff, just parts of it. Just like PARTS of Eva are ripped off form every pre-1995 mecha show. Anime, like jazz and a million other things is 1/2 plagarism and 1/2 improving on what you plagarized. It's just the first show that popped into my head while I was watching it, and the first show I thought of that used a LOT of stuff that was used in Eva, among other shows. Here's a quote that's a good example of that (a cookie to whoever can tell me what series it's from)
"C'mon! You're using a powerful mecha-suit to battle a mysterious enemy. This is a classic Japanese Anime plot!"


Originally posted by Randomguy
Sheamon, two words- CALM DOWN. I was making a joke. I don't mean to offend you, but I think you need to lighten up. People are just expressing their opinions, nobody's FORCING you to rant. And please don't tell me I'm saying crap. Please, just lighten up. What I said was in good humor.
Very good advice. These boards are here for just that purpose: expressing your own opinion. I have no problem with anyone expressing their opinions on anything, but I DO start to get angry when people tell others that their opinions and comments are "crap". It's some people's opinion that Pilot Candidate is a ripoff of Neon Genesis Evangelion. That's their opinion. Some people think that it isn't. And that's their opinion. But, it's not ANYONE'S place to tell someone that their opinion is stupid. Keep that in mind.

[Chiltar]

You make a good point. But what makes me a bit flustered is that this site woln't endorse Gundam and PC. It's because of their ratings, but why make a fan site if your not going to actually cover all of Adult Swim, taking (in your opinion), the good with the bad. You don't heal TylerL or Zogg say they refuse to cover Zoids because itn't like anything else on Toonami or Gundam because it wasn't finished. PC is a great show, in my opinion, and you can't call something a true fansite if it's not for ALL the fans.

[Joe Tully]

Reef is right, let's try to be tolerant of other people's opinions. Calling other people's opinions "stupid" is pretty much the same as calling the person stupid, which we don't want to see here.

Anyways, myself, I never could really get into the robot-fighting-type-anime very much. I guess I just am very picky about watching anything action-related at all; I'm more of a comedy-type person. The only new show that really grabbed me last week was Yu Yu Hakusho. Pretty clever of them to kill off the main character in the opening scene. I don't know if there's any better way of drawing an audience into the story.