View Full Version : S:TAS "Last Son of Krypton, Parts One - Three" Talkback (Spoilers)
The Penguin
02-23-2002, 08:12 PM
This is the official talkback thread for the episodes featured in Superman: The Last Son of Krypton, a "movie" composed of first three episodes of Superman: The Animated Series.
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Episode #01 - 03 "The Last Son Of Krypton"
Original Airdate - September 6th, 1996. - Series Premiere
From the producers of The Emmy award winning Batman: The Animated Series comes an all-new feature-length animated adventure starring the world's most celebrated superhero: Superman:The Last Son Of Krypton! With destruction raining down on the planet Krypton, Kryptonian scientist and Council member Jor-El uses the precious remaining moments to secure superbaby Kal-El in a rocket that will spirit him to an uncertain future on Earth. From there, the legend of Superman begins!
Comments?
adoptedBatpuppy
02-23-2002, 08:18 PM
Why is CN showing Superman/Batman episodes so late at night??? My parents would not let me see 'em.
The Penguin
02-23-2002, 08:47 PM
See if you can tape them, Rimma.
I for one am really excited about the return of Superman. The vs. marathon a while back was the first time I had ever seen it and I thought it was a really good show. I've got my video tape ready and looking forward to seeing them all. :)
CadaverousEyes
02-24-2002, 12:36 AM
Funny, I've seen Last Son of Krypton part I 3 or 4 times but parts 2 and 3 only once. Bah, why must it only be once a week and so late at night?
The Green Hornet
02-24-2002, 02:26 AM
am i the only one who thinks that a plotline where superman discovers that lara and jor-el put themselves into the phantom zone before the planet exploded would be cool?
then again maybe thats what they did with ALL of krypton in the issues of Superman a few months back........
The Dark Knight
02-24-2002, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by TheFastestManAlive
am i the only one who thinks that a plotline where superman discovers that lara and jor-el put themselves into the phantom zone before the planet exploded would be cool?
"Look at it this way, Kal-El, death is better than the Phantom Zone."
Do you really think they would want to risk an eternity in that place? It would make for an interesting story, but nothing more than "Elseworlds".
JTurner954
02-24-2002, 03:12 AM
Part 1 was ok. I mean, I'd like to see Superman battle crime. I don't need to see an origin story again (that's just me).
whitmore_sean
02-24-2002, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by The Penguin
Don't forget STAS returns tonight (or Sunday morning if you prefer) at 2 a.m. eastern on CN with "The Last Son of Krypton" Part 1! Discuss the show and share your excitement right here!
Is this EVER coming to DVD? I mean, ever? Justice League gets a DVD, it hasn't even been on a year, and it's not even as good a show! They need to release "Last Son of Krypton" like they did with Batman Beyond's "Rebirth", in movie form, with a few more episodes as well. "A Little Piece of Home" at the very least, since it's almost a direct sequel.
SEAN
"You carry a badge?"
"Um...yes."
"Carry a gun."
adoptedBatpuppy
02-24-2002, 12:46 PM
Legacy, is one of my favorite episodes. I hope CN would show it.
peterparker05
02-24-2002, 01:43 PM
This was the first time I'd seen LSOK Part 1. Personally, I found it very entertaining. However, I'd probably enjoy it more if it were aired with parts 2 and 3.
Clark J. Kent
02-24-2002, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Rimma Likover
Legacy, is one of my favorite episodes. I hope CN would show it. Not that it has the slightest thing to do with "Last Son of Krypton."
The Penguin
02-24-2002, 02:32 PM
This was the first time I've every seen this episode and I thought it was really cool. I put it on a tape and I'm already counting down til next week.
Hearing Nigel, Luthor's butler of sorts from L&C as Kal-El's grandfather was an added bonus. After seeing it I'm glad the origin was retold as the premire of the show. Knowing what Brainiac did to the Krytonians will make his future appearances more interesting.
I never really saw STAS when it was on the first time, so this is like a brand new show for me. :)
CadaverousEyes
02-24-2002, 03:00 PM
I'll admit, though, it's weird to see him as an infant, but also humbling.
At least he's not a fetus.
MattL.
02-24-2002, 03:12 PM
Last Son of Krypton is for my money one of if not the best representation of Supermans origin story done anywhere.
Maybe I'm just sap, but the story of Supermans orign I've always found to be very touching. and with nearly every represntation, I've always gotten misty at the rocket launch/goodbye sequence. But there are two where I nearly cried outright. The movie and Last Son of Krypton.
Its such a wonderful and beautiful idea. This poor little baby being sent away from his dying homeworld who will grow up to become the greatest hero of all time.
The look for this version of Krypton is perfect. I'd pay money for this to be the version in the comics.
Jor-El and Laras characters were great both in their design and how they were written. Jor-El is shown to be a man of action show you know that his son "got it honest" as we say here in the south.
and Brainiac was a sheer stroke of brilliance.
and yes, Kal-El came here in a *rocket* not an egg with a hyperdrive! Thank you STAS!
and for the love of god, baby Kal is just freakin adorable. Especially when he's playing with his little white dog.
Harvey Dent
02-24-2002, 04:33 PM
While I admit that this story is a perfect blend of Pre and Post-Crisis origins, I wouldn't replace Byrne's Krypton with anything. I never really cared for the "Buck Rogers" society that had been shown in the previous 40+ years.
TheScarecrow
02-24-2002, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by whitmore_sean
They need to release "Last Son of Krypton" like they did with Batman Beyond's "Rebirth", in movie form, with a few more episodes as well.
Well they already released the "Last Son of Krypton" eps on one tape. A DVD for it, along with some other episodes, would be great.
The Game
02-24-2002, 06:15 PM
Well they already released the "Last Son of Krypton" eps on one tape. A DVD for it, along with some other episodes, would be great.
My thoughts exactly. I think that should be kinda like Batman: The Legend Begins in terms of testing the waters- besides "Last Son of Krypton" works way better as a movie than as three seperate parts.
Karkull
02-24-2002, 06:16 PM
This was the best version of Krypton, bar none. Adding Brainiac was a stroke of genius, as was Jor-El's Phantom Zone plan.
Did Jor-El call that beast that attacked him a shoggoth? Lovecraft reference!
Samhaine
02-24-2002, 07:55 PM
StAS was shaky at times, with bad episodes like Solar Power mixed in with the really great ones like LSOK. As I watched it I remembered watching for the first time, with the twirling CGI S-shield and "Superman will be right back, on KidsWB!" before the annoying lot bumpers with the big KIDSWB! symbol all over the place.
I think this episode works. It shows what Superman lost, and even if he didn't know it, he lost a very loving family, and advanced society. Plus, throwing Braniac in was a really good idea, I thought.
Dark Knight
02-25-2002, 12:17 AM
Seeing that again was awesome. A while ago I voted for Darkseid as the best STAS villain because of all that apokolips now and legacy stuff he did, and lets face it that guys pure evil. But after seeing krypon explode again... I mean Brainiac pretty much goes "see ya you're screwed" and then the lights black out and everybody suffers horrible deaths, then he goes he goes and does the same thing to maybe hundreds of thousands of other planets (i mean lets face it, there were a LOT of those orbs on his ship when he came to earth)... I totally changed my mind. Brainiac is the most vile supes villain. Those last few moments of Krypton were creepy.
Clark J. Kent
02-25-2002, 12:59 AM
Bloodone, I really liked Solar Power. But your point remains: STAS was often shaky. (Episodes like Monkey Fun and especially Superman's Pal should have never been produced. They are the reason people don't like Superman.)
But I'm in total agreement with everyone else. Dini/Timm's Krypton was the best of them all, especially their integration of Brainiac into the myth.
This was probably one of the greatest Superman episodes ever. In fact, the entire first season of Superman was nothing short of "Phenomonal." The second season is where things go terribly, terribly awry.
The Green Hornet
02-25-2002, 01:18 AM
you know what would have been the masters stroke?
if somehow DARKSEID is the one who orchestrated the destruction of Krypton and the corruption of Brainiac's program
man that would be sweet
Karkull
02-25-2002, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by TheFastestManAlive
you know what would have been the masters stroke?
if somehow DARKSEID is the one who orchestrated the destruction of Krypton and the corruption of Brainiac's program
man that would be sweet
I think that Brainiac being corrupt on his own was fine, but Darkseid being responsible for Krypton's destruction would have been perfect (it would certainly explain his interest in him and his presence in the series).
Mattashell
02-25-2002, 01:56 PM
Well I had this episode on tape already, so I didn't bother taping it again, that would be silly. But after I watched my tape of last night's "On Leather Wings," I dug out my Last Son of Krypton tape and watched it over again. I must say it was better than I remembered it being. A very good intro to a promising series. Notice one name Martha suggests for her foundling is Christopher ;) . I would like to see a live action movie that takes place on Krypton and ends with it's destruction, and Jor El's departure.
So what do you think?
A very good start for Superman: Four and a half stars.
Maxie Zeus
02-25-2002, 02:13 PM
The poll is a pretty good idea, but I think it works better in conjunction with the talkback. So I merged them. :)
Livewire
02-26-2002, 06:01 PM
No way was I about to let this fade into thread history without saying anything. I absolutely love "Last Son of Krypton"! I have it on tape. I'm so glad they started the series with Supes origin. I had never read a mainstream Superman comic, and although I knew his origin, it was wonderful seeing it animated. The voice acting was great and the animation top notch. I wish S:TAS was on at a better time :yawn: , but that's why we have VCR's. :)
The Green Hornet
03-02-2002, 10:01 PM
i love the WHOLE of STAS
Last Son of Krypton is one of the best origin stories ever in animation (Gargoyles rules all however)
JTurner954
03-03-2002, 02:56 AM
I also liked Part 2 more than Part 1. I watch the show for Superman, not everyone else. I didn't like how the episode just ended, but I'm ok with it with a Part Three on the way.
The Penguin
03-03-2002, 04:23 PM
It really feels special seeing all of these for the first time! :)
I thought this was a really good show too. It gives you enough time in Smallville to understand what Clark went thru, but at the same time gets you to Metropolis quick enough so you don't get sick of Kansas. I can't wait for part three! :D Then I'm going to watch all three of them together!
(Wow these tapes are gonna get to be expensive :( )
The Green Hornet
03-03-2002, 04:38 PM
after seeing Last Son of Krypton again, i have to say that Lana is hotter than Lois
The Game
03-03-2002, 06:07 PM
I liked it alot- although once again I'd like to say that the "Last Son of Krypton" works way better as a movie than as a three parter. Decent writing though- the young Lana is pretty cute. D- (ouch).
-The Game
G. Wen
03-03-2002, 11:14 PM
I liked the episode because the pace was just right. The episode spent some time showing Clark's development in Kansas, but it didn't lag there. The episode didn't rush into Clark's career as Superman in Metropolis, but introduced him into that career.
Livewire
03-05-2002, 05:49 PM
How could this talkback only have 7 responses so far? :confused:
I like pt. 2 slightly better than pt.1. I really enjoyed seeing the teenage Clark in Smallville. And it was great when he first came to Metropolis. I loved Lois' reaction when he first arrived. Hey, if you've seen and haven't said anything yet, please tell us what you thought of it. :)
Caped Crusader
03-05-2002, 08:35 PM
LSOK was a great origin story! I was never really into Superman before, because I never liked the mainstream version, but when S:TAS came out it made me a huge Superman fan! It is, without a doubt, the best version of Superman I've ever seen! I like everything about it-- the voice-acting, the animation, the writing...EVERYTHING!!
The Green Hornet
03-05-2002, 10:37 PM
yeah this really is the best superman
frankly i was VERY dissapointed to learn that the Superman Comics werent like STAS
i was a huge marvel fan b4 i saw STAS
now im a huge fan of DC and Marvel
warmachine04
03-06-2002, 07:41 AM
The scene of Superman saving Lois from a collapsed beam was my favorite part of that episode. The show was one of my all-time favorite animated series. :D
The Green Hornet
03-09-2002, 07:02 PM
oh yeah
this really is a great origin story
i wish that Batman had something similar-- it would have been awesome
peterparker05
03-09-2002, 11:46 PM
We kind of did get a Batman origin story in "Mask of the Phantasm."
The Green Hornet
03-10-2002, 02:15 AM
Why is STAS so great? for lines like these
Martha Kent: I don't want them thinking you're like that nut in Gotham
WOW this is a FIVE STAR EPISODE EASILY
GREAT dialogue, animation, colour, voice acting
the ending is awesome
and SUPERMAN USES HIS POWERS IN COOL WAYS
when he catches the bullets and THROWS THEM BACK is too cool
and he whales on that battle suit
in the end i always find myself smiling durring every episode of STAS and now i know why-- its that darned good and fun
also the soundtrack is phenomenal-- just superb
and it only gets better in the later episodes with Darkseid
JTurner954
03-10-2002, 02:29 AM
No way Hornet. I hated that. No one disses Batman.
Anyway, this felt comfortable since it setup the mood for the flow of every other episode. I was about to type here but all of a sudden they showed Brainiac. I was like "Whoa, I didn't expect this". Big thumbs up.
P.S.: I tried to vote but it didn't work. Is anyone else having the same problem?
The Green Hornet
03-10-2002, 02:30 AM
come on JT-- you gotta admit its funny to hear Ma Kent rag on the batman ;)
Batman 80
03-10-2002, 02:57 AM
I wish the Last Son of Krypton was on DVD. It's one of the best storyarcs in the Superman animated series.
JTurner954
03-10-2002, 02:58 AM
I probably should of, but I didn't.
Joe Tully
03-10-2002, 03:08 AM
One of the things that I liked about this episode was how they made it clear that Supes was still learning how to use his powers. Best example: He tries to stop the plane by grabbing the tail, and the tail rips off. The villain (Corbin in a metal suit) was not particularly interesting, but I think that the story really called for a relatively uncomplicated villain (in terms of both motivation and origin), and Supes needed someone relatively easy for his first big fight. They really did a great job on this origin, I gave it 4.5 stars.
warmachine04
03-10-2002, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Batman 80
I wish the Last Son of Krypton was on DVD. It's one of the best storyarcs in the Superman animated series.
I also agree. It's too bad that they're not releasing with Batman and Justice League this April :(. Part 3 was my favorite episode in "Last Son of Krypton." The way that Supes fought Corbin in the metal suit was phenomenal :D. Also this quote "I'll be watching you, Luthor" is my favorite line in the whole series :D. Overall, Last Son of Krypton Part 3 is one my favorite episodes in the Superman:TAS series :D.
Clark J. Kent
03-10-2002, 12:48 PM
JTurner954: Just so you are well aware, this was only a joke in a cartoon. ;)
I thought this segment episode was considerably weaker than the first two parts of the show, but I still gave it 4 stars. Such great animation, and good story and dialogue. I love how they put in John Corben; it's always great to see villains before they become their actual villain identities. (Like they did with Harvey Dent in BTAS, but not quite as eloquently.)
The good episodes will start next week, gang. :D Then all you Newbern fans who have never even really heard Daly will be crying when you hear his voice instead of Daly's.
William C. Maune
03-10-2002, 02:50 PM
[indent]Something I really liked about the episode that hasn't been mentioned is the Brainiac seen at the end. It provides some closure for one of the other story arcs in Last Son of Krypton by letting us know what happened to the other survivor of Krypton while also opening up new storylines and establishing some continuity.
JTurner954
03-10-2002, 02:57 PM
AFX, I mentioned it. Look at my post again.
William C. Maune
03-10-2002, 03:11 PM
Doh! All I saw on my first pass was the Batman thing, sorry about that.
Karkull
03-10-2002, 03:24 PM
After watching Last Son of Krypton, Part 3 last night (spectacular for all the reasons mentioned and more), I have to ask: what happened to this series? The first season (and half of the second one) were incredibly strong and were on par with the best that BTAS had to offer. The characters were well written, there was a definate use of foreshadowing, and Luthor was deliciously evil and forward thinking.
This was nothing like the final episodes of Superman. They were poorly written, poorly animated, and alternated between Darkseid two-parters and uninteresting one-note episodes (Unity, Where There's Smoke). All the life was sucked out of the characters. Luthor was nowhere near as clever or menacing--he seriously thought that Superman went rogue in Legacy? He should know his archfoe better than that. What happened?
:confused:
By the way, is it just me, or did the episode last night have additional scenes that weren't on the video release?
CadaverousEyes
03-10-2002, 03:33 PM
The writers of Justice League should use this episode as the template for writing Superman's dialogue.
Brainiac's cruel. Can't wait to see him get his comeuppance again in a few weeks.
The Green Hornet
03-10-2002, 04:48 PM
karkul i couldnt disagree more with your assesment of the later parts of STAS
i wont go into it because ive posted other stuff on it before
The Penguin
03-10-2002, 06:30 PM
I thought this was a good wrap-up to a great 3-part intro. It established the conflict between Superman and Luthor that we will no doubt see as the series goes on. Brainiac highjacking that spaceship leaves so much up in the air. I can't wait for next week! :)
The Green Hornet
03-10-2002, 06:32 PM
penguin
if you havent seen STAS before you are in for a REAL treat
Clark J. Kent
03-10-2002, 06:41 PM
Green Hornet, I would really like for you to go into this because I am with Karkul on the matter. The later episodes of Superman, with a few exceptions, were really terrible. If you don't want to go into it here and now, would you please post a link of the topics in question in which you do offer valid reasons why episodes like Unity and Where There's Smoke weren't really bad?
Thank you in advance.
The Green Hornet
03-10-2002, 06:53 PM
Clark-
re-reading my post i guess im a bit unclear
what i meant to say was that the DARKSEID episodes were fantastic
you are quite right that Unity and other episodes seemed...disconnected somehow
Frank White
03-10-2002, 08:46 PM
I liked Where Theres Smoke, something different from the normal, Superman fights bad guy, bad guy gets away, Superman beats him later. Plus it showcases his brains.
Steven C
03-11-2002, 04:19 AM
Hi guys, I'm new here. Is this thread about the first episode of the Superman animated series? If not I dont remember being any more epiosodes of Superman.
This board is really cool, Ive been looking for something like this for a while now. I am a HUGE Batman Beyond fan.
GL2k2
03-11-2002, 05:12 AM
Yeah, this movie was one of the best animated films ever. Is this on DVD yet? Oh well, anyways, this should be the way of the new films. I mean, this movie seemlessly introduces us to everyone, including three major villians of the series and the Superman mythos, Brainiac, Luthor, and Metallo. It establishes everything that we know of Superman how he is an alien, that was what was most surprising for me when I saw this film. They said the word alien, and I just never ever thought of Supes as an alien. The SUPERMAN movie, didn't mention this, it took me off guard, and gives you the feeling you know why Luthor doesn't trust Superman, which is the basis of their relationship in this series.
Mattashell
03-11-2002, 05:53 AM
GL2k2, I don't understand what you mean. The Superman movie is quite clear about where he's from, as is the b&w series and the Fliesher shorts. Maybe you mean you knew he was an alien, but just didn't tend to think of him that way.
I'm looking forward to the coming weeks, because I had the Last Son Of Krypton on tape, but I never watched the rest of the series. I've seen a few random eps. But I'm looking forward to seeing all of them in order, because I know I missed most of it.
Steven C
03-11-2002, 04:02 PM
I seen every episode of Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, and trying to watch Justice League, but it seems like Cartoon Network is changing the times around all the time. :yakko:
BeastBoyWonder
03-11-2002, 05:08 PM
That's what the schedule is for! Check out the "Toon Zone News" forum from the tab up at the top, the schedule for Batman the Animated Series, Superman the Animated Series, Batman Beyond, and Justice League are posted every Sunday.
Livewire
03-12-2002, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Karkull
After watching Last Son of Krypton, Part 3 last night (spectacular for all the reasons mentioned and more), I have to ask: what happened to this series? The first season (and half of the second one) were incredibly strong and were on par with the best that BTAS had to offer. The characters were well written, there was a definate use of foreshadowing, and Luthor was deliciously evil and forward thinking.
This was nothing like the final episodes of Superman. They were poorly written, poorly animated, and alternated between Darkseid two-parters and uninteresting one-note episodes (Unity, Where There's Smoke). All the life was sucked out of the characters. Luthor was nowhere near as clever or menacing--he seriously thought that Superman went rogue in Legacy? He should know his archfoe better than that. What happened?
AAAHHH!! Karkull, you didn't like "Legacy"??? Okay, I know we can't get into this now because this isn't a "Legacy" talkback. I can't wait for that one.
I gave the this part 5 stars- in fact, I gave every part 5 stars. "Last Son of Krypton" was incredible! I watched it and was instantly hooked. Everything about this ep I loved. I can't wait till next week.
Caped Crusader
03-12-2002, 07:00 PM
I gave every part 5 stars, too. Like I said in the part 2 talkback, this was a great origin story. And I agree, Jim, TMS did a great job with the animation--it's some of the best I've seen.
Robin
02-05-2004, 08:17 AM
I really wish we got to see more of Krypton. Not just in this story, but in the series in general. A flashback episode to Krypton would have been really great. This opening story was still good, and I wish Batman had sonmething along the lines. I like how they took the proper time to flesh stuff out, and not just jam it into one or two episodes. A three episode arc like this almost seems unheard of nowadays. The animation is great, too!
And is the voice actor who voiced Jor-El the same one who voiced Superman in Batman Beyond?
And is the voice actor who voiced Jor-El the same one who voiced Superman in Batman Beyond?
Indeed he is.
I'm planning on getting the DVD next week, because I think that all 3 of these episodes are superb. Good animation throughout and spot on writing. It was a risky move having 1/3 of the arc take place on Krypton with Superman as a small infant and the episode focued more on Jor-El and Brainiac than the man himself, but it worked. Even what could have been a dumb 'Superman in high school' episode worked, with him learning about his origins and introducing some of his supporting cast, in Ma, Pa and Lana.
Part 3 is the best for me though, mostly due to the awesome robot fight scene whilst the main Superman theme plays. I like origin episodes, seeing the characters interact for the first time and stuff and it was done superbly here.
***** all round. Shame Batman never got a full origin arc.
screw on head
02-06-2004, 12:06 PM
i remember this premiered on a sunday night as the premiere movie of the series. that was the first time i saw it, and i was really excited, i was probably in 6th grade. it was the perfect age for me to see it, cause it really grabbed me. i saw the donner films before hand and i don't think i saw the fleisher cartoons yet, but i loved this version of superman. looking back on it, there's a lot of jack kirby-isms in the krypton sequences alone, i didn't realize it was really his influence at the time, but i really loved the designs of the flying bikes the guards rode on and the ship jor-el's father in law flew in (couldn't say lara's father, cause that could cause confusion...). i can spot it now as a kirby fan, but it took me a while to find out it was mirroring kirby's designs. anyway, visually, this premiere had an impact on me and i distinctly remember drawing superman soon after, and then easing into becoming a kirby fan. flash forwarding to any other specifics i loved about the episode, i do remember liking all of bibbo's appearances after his debut here, brad garret's great. the "lex-o-suit" battle was a lot of fun. i remember thinking of robocop everytime it walked. you know the sound, it's a very distinct sound robocop made every time he walked, and the lexosut makes the same sound, maybe as an homage. i loved that shot after the lexosuit lands on the dock, where it discharges a bullet casing, and it falls on the cop car window, what a cool moment. and i loved when superman rips corbin out of the suit, as the water from the fire hydrant rains on him, cool scene. flash forwarding to the superman-luthor confrentation at his office, another cool setup for the rest of the series. i love the way tim daly says "lu-thor", i remembering thinking, "Is that how you say it?" it sounded a little heavy handed at first, but i got used to his way of saying it, and he does pronounce luthor that way throughout the rest of the series. overall, perfect opening to a great series.
Anthonynotes
02-06-2004, 03:22 PM
i remember this premiered on a sunday night as the premiere movie of the series. that was the first time i saw it, and i was really excited, i was probably in 6th grade. it was the perfect age for me to see it, cause it really grabbed me. i saw the donner films before hand and i don't think i saw the fleisher cartoons yet, but i loved this version of superman. looking back on it, there's a lot of jack kirby-isms in the krypton sequences alone, i didn't realize it was really his influence at the time, but i really loved the designs of the flying bikes the guards rode on and the ship jor-el's father in law flew in (couldn't say lara's father, cause that could cause confusion...). i can spot it now as a kirby fan, but it took me a while to find out it was mirroring kirby's designs. anyway, visually, this premiere had an impact on me and i distinctly remember drawing superman soon after, and then easing into becoming a kirby fan. flash forwarding to any other specifics i loved about the episode, i do remember liking all of bibbo's appearances after his debut here, brad garret's great. the "lex-o-suit" battle was a lot of fun. i remember thinking of robocop everytime it walked. you know the sound, it's a very distinct sound robocop made every time he walked, and the lexosut makes the same sound, maybe as an homage. i loved that shot after the lexosuit lands on the dock, where it discharges a bullet casing, and it falls on the cop car window, what a cool moment. and i loved when superman rips corbin out of the suit, as the water from the fire hydrant rains on him, cool scene. flash forwarding to the superman-luthor confrentation at his office, another cool setup for the rest of the series. i love the way tim daly says "lu-thor", i remembering thinking, "Is that how you say it?" it sounded a little heavy handed at first, but i got used to his way of saying it, and he does pronounce luthor that way throughout the rest of the series. overall, perfect opening to a great series.
I enjoyed this first episode of the late S:TAS...
I think the designs for the people's outfits on Krypton are supposed to be an Animated-style hybrid of the pre- and post-Crisis versions of Krypton in the comics (pre-Crisis: Krypton was a "Buck Rogers"-ish technological utopia, and the people wore headbands, capes and brightly-colored jumpsuits; post-Crisis: Krypton's a desolate Vulcan-knockoff technological dystopia, and the people wore total-body-covering elaborate outfits)...
-B.
batmanbeyond13
01-24-2005, 10:24 PM
This is a great origin story. Unlike Batman, Superman's story is told from the begining. This sets the stage for the classic Superman and Lex Luthor struggle. Awesome stuff on this one.
EJill34
01-27-2005, 07:17 PM
Watched this one on my new S:TAS Vol. 1 set with commentary yesterday and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I've always been a fan of this episode, especially the last few minutes, but the commentary was particularly cool. I thought it was hilarious how Dan Riba and Paul Dini were talking about standing up to Bruce Timm.
Nice animation, great dialogue and story and an absolutely stunning score makes it hard to NOT give this episode *****.
The Penguin
08-16-2005, 11:18 PM
Tonight at 12:30 a.m. ET, Boomerang airs the Superman: The Animated Series episode, "The Last Son Of Krypton, Part 1.". If you do not have Boomerang, you are encouraged to follow along on disc one of your Superman: The Animated Series, Vol. 1 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=132297) DVD set. This thread will be bumped the next two nights as each episode airs.
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Episode #01 - The Last Son Of Krypton, Part 1
Original Airdate - September 6th, 1996. - Series Premiere
With destruction raining down on the planet Krypton, Kryptonian scientist and Council member Jor-El uses the precious remaining moments to secure superbaby Kal-El in a rocket that will spirit him to an uncertain future on Earth.
Comments?
Terminatah
08-16-2005, 11:32 PM
Tonight at 12:30 a.m. ET, Boomerang airs the Superman: The Animated Series episode, NAME.NAME was my favorite episode. I especially liked it when Superman defeated VILLAIN and discovered that TWIST. ;)
-Terminatah
Death58
08-17-2005, 12:24 AM
I really liked this episode. I thought it was an awesome way to start out the series. Just the fact that they elaborated on exactly why Krypton was doomed made it so interesting. That and one of my favorite voice over artists played in it; Tony Jay. Over all, it was enjoyable, but it isn't really something I would go back to watch over and over. . .even though I do that with my DVD:sweat: . Oh well. . .
Terminatah
08-17-2005, 12:56 AM
Why didn't Jor-El just put his family in the Phantom Zone and get in the ship himself? Is that projector thing not a household item on Krypton?
-Terminatah
Trevor Balena
08-17-2005, 06:37 AM
Why didn't Jor-El just put his family in the Phantom Zone and get in the ship himself? Is that projector thing not a household item on Krypton?
-Terminatah
No more than keys to the planet's most dangerous prison are a household item here on Earth. ;)
Interesting joke between the creators on the commentary track in the first part of the episode.
The Penguin
08-18-2005, 01:06 AM
Tonight at 12:30 a.m. ET, Boomerang aired the Superman: The Animated Series episode, "The Last Son Of Krypton, Part 2." If you do not have Boomerang, you are encouraged to follow along on disc 1 of your Superman: The Animated Series, Vol. 1 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=132297) DVD set. This thread will be bumped again tomorrow for the final episode.
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Episode #02 - The Last Son Of Krypton, Part 2
Original Airdate - September 6th, 1996.
Young Clark Kent discovers the truth about who and what he is. Upon reaching adulthood, he assumes his birthright as the Man of Steel, and the legend of Superman is born in the city of Metropolis.
Comments?
Carrieattheprom
08-18-2005, 12:20 PM
This is a great origin story. Unlike Batman, Superman's story is told from the begining. This sets the stage for the classic Superman and Lex Luthor struggle. Awesome stuff on this one.
It'd be kinda hard to tell Batman's story from the very beggining, at least on a kid's cartoon show anyway. Don't think the censors would've been too cool with a nine-year-old's parents being shot to death in front of him.
I loved watching Last Son Of Krypton on my DVD, the commentary was a lot of fun.
Bobbywoodhogan
12-26-2010, 10:04 AM
Wow I must have watched every episode of Superman the Animated Series loads of times and can't believe I haven't rated them on here.In my opinion the DCAU's most consistently good show and the best version of Superman to date. They really need to take some of what was done in this animated series into the upcomong Zak Snyder Superman movie. The voice cast in this series is spot on Tim Daly is the definitive Superman to me, his voice perfectly embodies the confidence and authrisation of Superman and his subtle calmness of his Clark Kent is superb. Dana Delany and Clancy Brown are again the definitive versions of their characters aswell. The best animated show ever for me.
Well onto the episode (or movie) this is a 5 out 5 from me, hands down the best Superman origin of them all. The Krypton opening was fantastic, Christopher McDonald was perfect casting as Jor-El. Yiu really felt the heartbreak when the end came. Also for me this is the definitive version of Brainiac, just superb, I love Corey Burton as Brainiac so much that I can't take it when someone else is voicing him. Corey Burton is Brainiac. The scenes in Smallville were awesome aswell just wish there'd have been more of it but whats there work. When Clark discovers his origins you can see how heartbroken he is. The final act is him going to Metropolis to become Superman. The scene where he saves the plane is brilliant and a great intro to Superman. This version is very John Byrne inspired and that is only a good thing in my opinion. The end fight with Corben in the Lexo-suit is very well done aswell. My favourite line in the whole episode is when Superman says to Corben "shall we go a few rounds without the suit". The best scene of the whole movie for me is when Superman confronts Lex at the end and tells him he'll be keeping an eye on him. Gotta love the Brainiac epilogue aswell leads ibto some exciting stuff in the episode Stolen Memories. All in 5 out of 5.
AlgeaX
01-02-2011, 09:59 AM
Why didn't Jor-El just put his family in the Phantom Zone and get in the ship himself? Is that projector thing not a household item on Krypton?
-Terminatah
Probably because he didn't want to leave his wife and son at the mercy of a bunch of alien psychopaths.
Chiptooth
01-02-2011, 03:44 PM
I don't know what it is, exactly...I mean, I've read Man Of Steel, Birthright, Secret Origin, and Earth One...and of all the post-Crisis versions of Superman's origin that have been told, this version is the only one I can really get into from beginning to end; the others can only get my attention in bits and pieces and that's pretty much it.
Bobbywoodhogan
01-02-2011, 05:18 PM
I don't know what it is, exactly...I mean, I've read Man Of Steel, Birthright, Secret Origin, and Earth One...and of all the post-Crisis versions of Superman's origin that have been told, this version is the only one I can really get into from beginning to end; the others can only get my attention in bits and pieces and that's pretty much it.
I think its how smoothly it flows, its just superb, its my favourite version of the Superman origin aswell.
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