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Maxie Zeus
02-23-2002, 06:55 PM
Okay, people. It's time to lay down some rules about the new community board. No sense in letting things slide any further.

We split AniGen mainly because it had grown too big. And it grew too big because there were too many "general" posts. And there were too many "general" posts because -- and there's no polite way to say this -- there was too much crap being posted.

Well, we separated out the "entertainment" posts - - what AniGen was originally designed for -- and put them on AniTainment. And this is now going to be a community board. But (contrary to some of the titles that are being suggested) it's not going to be a case of "anything goes" around here.

We want people to feel free to talk around here, to relax and get to know each other. But that's not possible if everyone has to shovel through a lot of pointless drivel to get to those conversations that are actually informative and useful. That's why we're going to start exercising some control: Not so that we can shut off the talk, but so that the talk is easier to follow and pick up on.

So we're going to be cracking down on the pointless threads -- the ones that say "It's midnight and I'm bored and cutting my toenails, so I thought I'd come here and tell everyone that." This not a chat room, and we're not going to let it turn into one.

Any subject (so long as it is PG in nature) is fair game around here. By all means joke and laugh and shoot the breeze. Talk about sports and hobbies and games and personal interests and problems. Talk about your hopes, your dreams, your fears, your talents, your goals, your failings: In short, talk about your life. We only ask for substance, not chatter.

Here's an example of what we want to discourage, a thread that has a promising topic that is totally ruined by the flippant content: How computer literate are you? (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20849) That's a good subject. Presumably we are all able to turn on a computer, get on the web, and join a message board. But some of us have web-sites, and some of us do cool things like Flash animation, and some of us have built web-communities. That's a wide range of experience, and it would be interesting to hear from people about what they've managed to accomplish, and what they hope to accomplish in the future.

Instead, we get a silly poll and some empty chatter. I spent ten seconds of my life looking at that thread, ten seconds I'm not going to get back. (The time I spent closing and moving it is another matter; that was time well spent, if only because it saved other people from wasting their time on it.)

Empty "opinion" posts are also extremely cluttersome. "Who likes ice cream?" doesn't exactly rock the world. Why ask the question, except to take up bandwidth?

Again, we're not asking for a lot of long, thoughtful chintugging around here. Nothing wrong with pulling up to the Community Board (or whatever the final name we settle on) and asking, "So, how about them Mets?" People like talking about sports, and celebrities, and news of the day.

No, these aren't clear and clean-cut rules, and there's going to be a lot of slack and inconsistency in how they're applied. We're all of us going to be feeling our way forward. Mostly, though, it's going to come down to common sense. Before you post, ask yourself: "Is this going to be a waste of everyone's time except my own?" Because that's the test that other people will apply when they read your post.

:)

absix
02-23-2002, 06:58 PM
agreed...
signs name on sheet

Sir Gatts
02-23-2002, 07:28 PM
Got it.
Sir Gatts was here

Evil Dr. Reef
02-23-2002, 11:18 PM
I'll agree to that.

James
02-24-2002, 08:54 PM
I must step out of the hedge and add a few words. I totally agree with this - have done for a long time.

Firstly the part about this not neing a chat room and a message board - there is a difference. I've been on several boards which in the end grew to a point where they had to SLAM down on any irrelevant post - a one word reply, a OT remark all were labelled SPAM and you risked being kicked. Harsh, but as this board grows and more and more bandwidth is eaten up by posting, those pointless ones will make a difference. IN the end, the board in question actually had to remove the numbers of posts from display to stop peeps posting to top up their posts - I certainly hope we don't get to that point...

Secondly, again what Maxie said about wasting 10 seconds of your life - so true. In some occasions you see an interesting thread and find out it's actually a rather trivial or pointless topic, worst off is when you investigate which either had some points you wanted to see replies to or had just some interesting statements and discover that those new replies where just pointless irrelevant remarks which wouldn't amuse a drunk flea for more than a heartbeat.

I know we all must have been guilty of such posts, but with a split in the board it seems a great time for a Late New Years resolution - we only post when required on topics relevant. If you don't have something interesting to say - don't say it! Is post counts that important, do you honestly look at someone with a higher post count and say, 'hey, I want to have as many post as that dude!'? I hope not. If nothing else, what does it say about your life? :D (Jim and Calhoun, I worry about the both of you! ;) )

Later chums.

DR. BELCH
02-25-2002, 04:52 PM
...have some posts actually been deemed so pointless that they were killed completely? I often mine the old posts, usually when I have writer's block and need story ideas, and when I went to look for a particular post that I recalled might have something I could use, it was nowhere to be found. Though no post counts look like they took a drastic dip...so I'm not sure if they were deleted or are just filed elsewhere and unavailable at this time.
As far as pointless posts go, your trash=my treasure...writer's mind, you know....

Mr. Obsession
02-25-2002, 05:33 PM
Sounds good to me. I should be able to keep myself from creating a completely pointless thread. But should someone else create a generally pointless thread I don't think I can guarantee that I won't contribute to it. :D

Hmm... contributing to a useless thread, now there's a thought...



Basically I agree to the above typed out by Maxie (and I'm feeling lazy so I'm just going to "X" my signature instead of typing out my user name :rolleyes: )

X

Maxie Zeus
02-25-2002, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
...have some posts actually been deemed so pointless that they were killed completely? I often mine the old posts, usually when I have writer's block and need story ideas, and when I went to look for a particular post that I recalled might have something I could use, it was nowhere to be found. Though no post counts look like they took a drastic dip...so I'm not sure if they were deleted or are just filed elsewhere and unavailable at this time.
As far as pointless posts go, your trash=my treasure...writer's mind, you know....

Me, I haven't deleted much, but I can't speak for other mods. But I've been on the boards for a few hours at a time over the past few days, and have seen nothing that really looks deletable.

My guess is that the "missing" posts are in the private forum waiting to be sorted thru. We mass moved a lot of the really old ones and put them in a holding bin, and are going to go through and put them either in AnyGen (or whatever the new name will be -- we're almost there, folks! :D) or AniTainment.

It'll probably be a week or two before that sorting process is finished, and until then the archives will be out of reach.

Though if you'll tell me which post it was, I might be able to find it for you and go ahead and stick it back in circulation. :)

Naraht
02-26-2002, 08:49 AM
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as the author of the aforementioned Computer litteracy post...I certainly wasn't going for the insanity of the 1st few posts the happened after I posted it....

I posted it, to try to find out how computer litterate ppl were, and included a poll, with some funny answers, cause 1) I like there to be some humor in my polls, and 2) cause it helps take the edge off for ppl who aren't as computer litterate as the rest of us. I posted the thread shortly before going to bed....

And since it had fallen off the board when I woke up, I figured no one was really interested. my poll on Operatin Systems didn't last to long due to disintrest..so I figured the same thing happened to this one.

I am disapointed that rather than asking people to be more serious, you mearly locked the thread, and walked away. You could have let me know that the silly poll was inapropriate, and asked me not to do that anymore. You could have removed the poll, and encouraged actuall dialouge.

Look, I'm all for law & order (on NBC!) but if there's no feedback..positive or negative, till things get out of hand, you can't just blame the offenders......

There's been a breakdown on both sides of the fence, and hopefully with the split, both sides will get things back going.
I'm all for it!

James
02-26-2002, 09:11 AM
I think thats the point of the thread - to lay down some points for future use. I had this on a board I run where things started moving in a direction I was not comfortable with - I didn't chastise as I had not made my position clear, just informed people of what I expected from now on and why.

As for feedback, I find the moderators are pretty good and do respond if they feel it's relevant to inform you of a descision based on a situation/problem.

Maxie in particular I have found fair and forthcoming in the past. Calhoun too.

All in my humble-non-moderator-always-in-everyones-face-opinion ;)