Fun Image of Justice Lord version of Wonder Woman

[Peter Svensson]

Famed (if controversial) comics creator John Byrne was commissioned to do this drawing (http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24818&PN=1&totPosts=41).

Pretty cool, huh?

[Wolf Boy2]

I can't believe what noobies they are on that board. I never understood why so many DC hardcores never really watched JL. Heck, they said JLA instead of JLU. Good heavens.

[Peter Svensson]

You have to realize that the fans there are of the comics, not necessarily the cartoons.

[Alph]

I always liked Justice Lords WW's costume way better than her normal one. Does she really need to have exposed legs?


Same goes for J'onn. Except replace legs for.....pretty much everything.

[warnerbroman]

I always liked Justice Lords WW's costume way better than her normal one. Does she really need to have exposed legs?


Same goes for J'onn. Except replace legs for.....pretty much everything.


if it was not for his skin he would be "flamboyant" looking



now to wait for the star bros post...

[Donomark]

John Byrne's basically a mysoginist writer/artist who likes to draw women in negative situations and portrayals. Justice Lord Diana's right up his alley. That being said, it is a nice picture.

[Zentron]

Y'know, I don't really like that pic, her right leg looks a bit short too! I give it 7/10 :shrug:

[Wonderwall]

Y'know, I don't really like that pic, her right leg looks a bit short too! I give it 7/10 :shrug:

its called perspective

[ROBOTRON]

:D - Nice. Woulda been awesome with color.

[Zentron]

its called perspective...... I know full well on perspective, but looking at the pic, it seems a tad off!!

[Nightwing]

You have to realize that the fans there are of the comics, not necessarily the cartoons.

I am trying, but with great difficulty! To be a fanboy of the comics WITHOUT even the slightest fanboy interest or even knowledge of the LEGENDARY run of cartoon shows which they inspired is SO difficult for me to grasp. Much of my comic fandoms began thanks to cartoons like these.

You wouldn't think to even take a liiiiittle peak as each show premiered? Just a leeeeeedle peak?

Great drawing, and that's a very interesting theme that he likes.

[BigFatHairyDeal]

I normally like Byrne's drawings, but this one seems a little off to me. I know it's not the Wonder Woman as we normally know her, but something about the face is off. I needed the logo (and the thread title, for that matter) to tip me off it was WW. Granted, I don't think I could recognize a random Diana Prince drawing, either, but still, I'm not super keen on this one.

[Young Justice]

John Byrne's basically a mysoginist writer/artist who likes to draw women in negative situations and portrayals. Justice Lord Diana's right up his alley. That being said, it is a nice picture.

A bit off topic here but...

I don't follow John Byrne's work lately but call him misogynist is a little too far, don't you think?

I've read tons of Byrne's stories from X-Men, through Fantastic Four and finally Superman, and in all of them the females characters were always strong ones.

Susan Storm gained a very different and interesting perspective under John Byrne's work. Lois Lane also was very memorable under his hands. Not to mention what he did with the She-Hulk character.

Of course he could use irony and humor when drawing the female characters, like that story when She-Hulk was under arrest on the flying HQ of Shield and there were this sexist agent who ordered her to take off her clothes. It was embarrassing for the character but it was interesting plot wise, because the agent was portrayed like a jerk and later in the story he was eaten alive by a bunch of alien cockroaches.

[Donomark]

A bit off topic here but...

I don't follow John Byrne's work lately but call him misogynist is a little too far, don't you think?

I've read tons of Byrne's stories from X-Men, through Fantastic Four and finally Superman, and in all of them the females characters were always strong ones.

Susan Storm gained a very different and interesting perspective under John Byrne's work. Lois Lane also was very memorable under his hands. Not to mention what he did with the She-Hulk character.

Of course he could use irony and humor when drawing the female characters, like that story when She-Hulk was under arrest on the flying HQ of Shield and there were this sexist agent who ordered her to take off her clothes. It was embarrassing for the character but it was interesting plot wise, because the agent was portrayed like a jerk and later in the story he was eaten alive by a bunch of alien cockroaches.


.....Oh really?

http://www.heroplay.com/features/articles/display.php?id=27

[Young Justice]

.....Oh really?

http://www.heroplay.com/features/articles/display.php?id=27

Excellent Article. I read a lot of those stories, but really, I think I was too young to tell those undertones. I remember, though, to be a little upset with the faith of Barda under the hands of Sleeze. But I was very satisfied when she kicked the hell out of him.

I've always had the perception that, despite the graphic abuse the female characters were submitted ,they always striven in the end. I've always saw Susan Storm, She-Hulk, Lois Lane and Jean Grey as strong female characters and they surely grew in my opinion under the hands of Byrne. I never read his run on Wonder Woman, though.

[JLAgent]

That's a one-sided article of Byrne's work in my opinion. i'll never understand why he gets all this criticism for his work while many other artists get a pass because they are the "flavor of the month".:sad: i really hope this doesn't turn into a "Let's Bash Byrne" discussion. The Justice Lords WW he did is pretty cool and i'd love to see him do the rest of the Justice Lords in the future.:D

-JLAgent

[maxnugget]

I am trying, but with great difficulty! To be a fanboy of the comics WITHOUT even the slightest fanboy interest or even knowledge of the LEGENDARY run of cartoon shows which they inspired is SO difficult for me to grasp. Much of my comic fandoms began thanks to cartoons like these.

You wouldn't think to even take a liiiiittle peak as each show premiered? Just a leeeeeedle peak?


I always wonder the same thing (I also started off watching the Timm shows before migrating into comics). It's really hard to understand. I've met many fans who have read all the great/classic DC comics and yet haven't even touched the DCAU. They're aware the shows exist but never really bothered to check them out.

The only explanation I can think of is that there's a lingering perception that the DCAU shows are aimed at kids and aren't that good. Some of them view the DCAU the same way many of us DCAU fans view, say, Legion of Superheroes. That is, it's kind of fun to watch because it's about characters we like, but ultimately it's aimed at a different audience and isn't like the more pure good 'ol DC comics stories we get from the Timmverse. Except that their opinion is based on assumptions (and in some cases a limited viewing of some of the lesser-quality episodes) of the DCAU shows, not from having watched them. I doubt there are many DC comics fans who have seen a fair sampling of the DCAU shows and aren't in awe. :)

But yeah, there's really no reason why a show like JLU shouldn't be known and seen by every DC comics fan. It just doesn't make sense. I feel bad for people that love the comics and don't know about the DCAU. :)

On the same topic, Gotham Knights should be interesting then, because it's likely to draw a lot of comics fans that haven't seen the DCAU, because it's more clearly aimed at teens/adults. Same with "Death of Superman," of course, except this is the first marketed-to-adults DTV about that best-selling superhero, Batman.