Flame War?

[Gyro]

What is a flame war?

[Clark J. Kent]

All I can tell you is that these are the major players (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html) of a Flame War.

:D

[Calhoun07]

Basically, it is a horrible arguement that ensues on the boards that leads to hurtful and flaming replies and hurt feelings and such. That's why the moderators try to shut down threads before they lead to that.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by Clark J. Kent
All I can tell you is that these are the major players (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html) of a Flame War.

:D

Heh...I can't help but laugh at the Philosopher one...don't know why... ;)

I sound a bit like the Android, IMO. And I am an Eagle Scout, and that one fits me well too, I guess.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Gyro
What is a flame war? Basicly a discussion that goes hostile. They are harmless just stay out of the way and the mods will handle it if it needs handling. In rare occasions there could be a fullfledge war underneath which makes it harder to sit on the fence a good example of such a war would be the TTA newsgroup war of the summer of '93 which resulted in the spliting of the community and made the A! newsgroup more liberal over night but stuff like that is very rare.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by Gyro
What is a flame war?

A war that includes a lot of flamethrowers, torches and matches. I am often well equipped for one.

In our school, we run flame war drills. Hiding under the desk is surprisingly effective in flame wars. A desk is much better suited for these circumstances than in an atomic bomb situation.

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by Clark J. Kent
All I can tell you is that these are the major players (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html) of a Flame War.

:D

Oh my- those definitions are awesome!

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

FINALLY! We now can study the atypical flamers! *gets camera and takes snapshots of these magnificent creatures* :D

People, I AM a Tireless Rebutter, an Artful Dodger, and Philosoper all in one. So beware. :D

[Jowy Blight]

People, I AM a Tireless Rebutter, an Artful Dodger, and Philosoper all in one. So beware.

I'm more of a Kung-Fu Master myself. :D

[Clark J. Kent]

I don't know what I am. I think I see a little of myself in all of them.

Which would you guys think I am? (I've got pretty thick skin. Post what you really think. :) )

[Gyro]

Kung Fu Master, that's me! :D

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Clark J. Kent
All I can tell you is that these are the major players (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html) of a Flame War.

:D I think I'm a Rottweiler Puppy who's turning into a Big Dog. Better get on my good side while you can. :D

[Nightflower]

Heh.... I can't tell which one I am. A little bit of all is the easy answer. I have a sinking feeling I'm one of the more annoying ones though- feeble femme, bliss ninny, etc ^_^

So many Kung-fu masters? Suuuure ;)

[Maxie Zeus]

Philosopher-turned-Nanny-turned-Administrator. That's me.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Nightflower
Heh.... I can't tell which one I am. A little bit of all is the easy answer. I have a sinking feeling I'm one of the more annoying ones though- feeble femme, bliss ninny, etc ^_^

So many Kung-fu masters? Suuuure ;)

Actually, one of the nice things about these boards is that you really can't tell what a lot of people "really" are. Everyone is so well-behaved that it's hard to pick up on what kind of fighter you would be in a flame war.

[DR. BELCH]

I'm your typical Stone-Deaf Troll with a passion for Strumpets. :D

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Jekyl and Hyde, Diplomat, Philosopher, Bong and Artful dodger all in one. I also have Picador tendencies. :wakko:

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Nightflower
Heh.... I can't tell which one I am. A little bit of all is the easy answer. I have a sinking feeling I'm one of the more annoying ones though- feeble femme, bliss ninny, etc ^_^

Hmm, I think we need to make up a new warrior type to describe Nightflower:



Crouching Tigress, Hidden Dragon
This warrior can pass quietly through the web, being inoffensive and even a shade non-descript; their true nature is usually only revealed with a sudden, swift and devastating onset. The female of the type (Crouching Tigress) can seem soft and playful, and is sometimes mistaken for the Feeble Femme, Innocents Abused or Bliss Ninny. But when provoked by a clueless warrior, she can take his head off so cleanly he won't even notice it's gone. The male warrior (Hidden Dragon) is easier to spot: Just look for the Nanny, Eagle Scout or Peacemaker with a suspicious swagger in his stride. He is not to be confused with the "Jedi Knight," who loudly proclaims his identity as a Hidden Dragon, but keeps tripping over his sword.

[Bud 'n Lou]

I'm definately an "Ethnix." Hee!


Edited to add: OK, I'm also sort of a "Weenie."

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus

Crouching Tigress, Hidden Dragon
This warrior can pass quietly through the web, being inoffensive and even a shade non-descript; their true nature is usually only revealed with a sudden, swift and devastating onset. The female of the type (Crouching Tigress) can seem soft and playful, and is sometimes mistaken for the Feeble Femme, Innocents Abused or Bliss Ninny. But when provoked by a clueless warrior, she can take his head off so cleanly he won't even notice it's gone. The male warrior (Hidden Dragon) is easier to spot: Just look for the Nanny, Eagle Scout or Peacemaker with a suspicious swagger in his stride. He is not to be confused with the "Jedi Knight," who loudly proclaims his identity as a Hidden Dragon, but keeps tripping over his sword.


Awwwwwwww! You're too kind. :D

Bud:*cough*SYCOPHANT!*

Quiet, you.

[Danielle]

The closest I could find to me: Yuk Yuk.....er, whenever one of my enemies is on, I guess I'm considered a Duelist.....{searching through} EVIL CLOWN?! AAAAAAHHHHH!

I'm also a Jekyl and Hyde, and, of course, Loopy. In both senses of the word. :p

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
Crouching Tigress, Hidden Dragon
This warrior can pass quietly through the web, being inoffensive and even a shade non-descript; their true nature is usually only revealed with a sudden, swift and devastating onset. The female of the type (Crouching Tigress) can seem soft and playful, and is sometimes mistaken for the Feeble Femme, Innocents Abused or Bliss Ninny. But when provoked by a clueless warrior, she can take his head off so cleanly he won't even notice it's gone. The male warrior (Hidden Dragon) is easier to spot: Just look for the Nanny, Eagle Scout or Peacemaker with a suspicious swagger in his stride. He is not to be confused with the "Jedi Knight," who loudly proclaims his identity as a Hidden Dragon, but keeps tripping over his sword.
Maxie, that new warrior type rocks, you should submit it to the site. And not only does it fit Nightflower, but I think it works for a good number of the TZ members as well.

[Nightflower]

Maxie's is kind of a hybrid of different kinds: Jekyll and Hyde, with Bliss Ninny on the good side, and Kung Fu master on the dark side.

Come to think of it, I haven't been in a flame war for quite a while now. Almost a year and a half. I think I've gotten soft. :rolleyes:

They used to spring up all the time at the Cybersix message board. I'm happy to report that most of the time, I CRUSHED my opponents. In a fight, I can be kinda brutal (That's not always a good thing- I can get pretty cheap, and then I feel bad afterwards). Then again, most of the time they were whiny little 14-year-old girls who thought that "life isn't fair, there's no place in the world for me, waaaaah." Hush now! 14 y/os are vicious! :eek:

Flame wars occasionally still rear their ugly heads, but I stopped participating in them unless they get really bad. It's my privilege as an administrator ;) If it weren't for that, I think I'd be a Royal.

Anyway. I'm sorry to admit this, but flame wars are kinda fun, provided they don't get too heated, and that I CRUSH my opponents. ;)

Although losing is just as good when someone convinces you rationally and reasonably of a better point of view. I'm always open to learning new things :)

But I like winning. :D

[Naraht]

I don't think I'm on that site...

I'm an Old Fart....I want things to be just like they are in my memories. Not neccessarily the way things WERE mind you, just how I remember them. I tend to remenise about the good old days, and say things like "Kids Today"

=\

[Mr. Obsession]

Originally posted by naraht
I don't think I'm on that site...

I'm an Old Fart....I want things to be just like they are in my memories. Not neccessarily the way things WERE mind you, just how I remember them. I tend to remenise about the good old days, and say things like "Kids Today"

=\ I think that makes you a simi-xenophobe. :p

[Squall]

That "Flame Warriors" website is hilarious! :D So, where do I fit in? Be brutally honest. I can't figure out who'd I'd be by myself, because I'd try too hard to pick one of the funny ones. ;)

Now that I think about it, I don't ever remember ever even being in a flame war!!

[James]

They are great - and very accurate. The Ferrous Cranus is the one who amuses me the most - the guy who despite all you have said falls back on an already disputed point and refuses to budge. I recall many of those at a Final Fantasy Forum who would not get over the Aeris/Tifa despute for FF7.

I think, therefore I am, the philosopher - especially in the fact that I think I'm being humourous but clearly no one else agrees..

That, or the liberal Ideologue is very much me too.. I don't anger, but do suffer stunned believe when people don't agree with my opinions! ;)

[Feslmogh]

Originally posted by Clark J. Kent
All I can tell you is that these are the major players (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html) of a Flame War.

:D

THAT SITE IS SO COOL! I have to recomend that site to The Screensavers (http://www.thescreensavers.com)

[Karkull]

Originally posted by Nightflower
Anyway. I'm sorry to admit this, but flame wars are kinda fun, provided they don't get too heated, and that I CRUSH my opponents. ;)

Although losing is just as good when someone convinces you rationally and reasonably of a better point of view. I'm always open to learning new things :)

But I like winning. :D

Well, maybe we should experiment and have The Official Flame War Thread, where board members can spar (without getting TOO nasty, I should add).

:p

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by Karkull


Well, maybe we should experiment and have The Official Flame War Thread, where board members can spar (without getting TOO nasty, I should add).

:p

Hmm.... asking for trouble, are we? :p

[JustJack]

Having an official flame war thread would get REALLY bad. heh...as for this thread in itself, I wont be suprized if it gets closed soon enough....anyway...

Just wanted to mention....those "I have # posts!" threads...that is an example of what starts flame threads...and I thank Maxie for having closed that right away! ;)

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

I remember getting into a flame war here at TZ itself-over a Pokemon topic with Sven Dvorking. I learned a lot on flaming from that topic. Come to think of it, I think I became his number one rival. No kidding. -_-

I face plenty of jerks in my time, and like Nightflower, I crushed them. I have to admit, I was usually angry and fearless when I went to battle with them, and that usually gave me the upper hand. Besides, I was angry and fearless, yes, but also calm-you'd be impressed with how useful that trait still is in a flame war.

Flame War thread still sounds good, though. :D
...and I know I said what I thought I was...but what do you guys think I am? ^_^;;

[Karkull]

Originally posted by Nightflower
Hmm.... asking for trouble, are we? :p

:D

[Mattashell]

Sarcastro:

You think he's buttering you up, as the other warriors watch him destroy you.

Paragrapher:

Burries his opponents under massive novel length posts. Many warriors have starved, or died of exaustion while trying to make it from the beginning of his post to the end.

[Nightflower]

Just to reassure posters (and maybe disappoint them), I really don't think an "official" flame war is a good idea, and won't allow it anyway. I'm not sure what the other moderators think, but if they disagree, they can take it up with me. It has as much sense as setting a "supervised" fire in your home. :P

[Gyro]

It has as much sense as setting a "supervised" fire in your home. :P You mean that's a bad idea? ;)

[Mattashell]

Suicide Soldier:

Ever meet someone who thinks he's very smart, probably because he got good grades in high school by kissing up to the teachers (who in turn were not the faculty's brightest), and yet constantly spews forth the most inept statements, often "as fact." This person exists in cyberspace as well, known as the Suicide Soldier, he rushes into battle and immediately defeats himself.

[Karkull]

Originally posted by Nightflower
Just to reassure posters (and maybe disappoint them), I really don't think an "official" flame war is a good idea, and won't allow it anyway.

You're probably right, but I just wanted to throw the idea out to see what everyone thought.

[Feslmogh]

I could create a new user that is so lame that anything that user posts will create a flame war. But Nah... I don't I have the heart to do it. My conscious(is that how you spell it?) will get to me...

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Feslmogh
I could create a new user

Well, we don't allow that kind of thing anyway. ;)

Here's an idea for keeping the topic alive, without turning it either into a "flame tournament" or (almost as bad) deciding what kind of "warrior" our fellow posters are. We could make up new warrior types, discuss and polish the definitions, and submit them to the guy keeps that dictionary.

I did that just for fun, and few others have picked up the idea. I'll go first.

[Maxie Zeus]

(revised)

Silent, non-descript warriors who glide thru the message board without turning a leaf or bending a blade of grass, giving no offense and rarely taking any, until their true nature is revealed in a flurry of devastating blows. The female warrior (Crouching Tigress), if she is noticed at all, usually passes for a soft and playful thing, and may be mistaken for the Fragile Femme (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame27.html), Innocence Abused (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame8.html) or Bliss Ninny (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame24.html). But let another warrior cross her, and she can take his head off so quickly and cleanly he may never notice that it's gone. The male (Hidden Dragon) can sometimes pass for an Eagle Scout (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame64.html), Peacemaker (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame36.html) or Nanny (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame12.html), though he may be betrayed by the swagger in his stride. Unlike a Jedi Knight (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?postid=172792#post172792), a Hidden Dragon will never boast of his prowess. Once revealed, both male and female become a species of Kung-Fu Master (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame22.html).

[Maxie Zeus]

Soi-dissant Kung-Fu Master (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame22.html), Rebel Leader (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame73.html) or Hidden Dragon (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?postid=172789#post172789). Swaggering warrior who loudly and repetitively boasts of his proficiency at warfare, and takes the wide berth given him by others to be vindication of his fearsome reputation. In fact, other warriors treat him merely as comedy relief, so much so that even Evil Clown (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame35.html) and Jerk (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame34.html) will decline to yank his chain: He's amusing enough on his own. Only another Jedi Knight will engage him in battle. Variant: A Jedi Master is a Jedi Knight who speaks in aphorisms surpassed only by the Loopy's (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame46.html) for their strangeness and obscurity.

[Maxie Zeus]

Robotic, quip-a-minute Frankenstein monster, built from the pieces and parts of the Picador (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame66.html), Whisper (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame42.html), Evil Clown (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame35.html) and Tiny Yapper (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame7.html). Like the Evil Clown he delights in the vicious insult; like the Picador he goads others into the fight; like Tiny Yapper he shouts from the sidelines instead of joining in directly; like Whisper he delights in passing his bon mots along thru private channels. In short, he thinks he's the smartest and funniest person on the message board; in reality, he's amusing only himself.

[Maxie Zeus]

Everyone's pal, the life of the party, the grease that makes the message board merry-go-round spin smoothly. Uncle Gus is always cheerful and ready with a compliment. He thinks that if he's not around to constantly praise his fellow netizens in a tone of short, slightly affected bonhomie ("Good point!" "Glad to hear it!" "Lookin' sharp!") they will fall into a nasty funk and start tearing each other to pieces. Most warriors tolerate Uncle Gus (who comes across like a Peacemaker (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame36.html) with the soul of a politician) as the kindly, well-intentioned goof that he is, and will spring to his defense if he's attacked. But Jerk (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame34.html) and Evil Clown (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame35.html) will sometimes start trouble in widely-dispersed spots, just for the sport of watching him sweat as he runs around pouring oil on troubled waters.

[Maxie Zeus]

This warrior is an expert critic or observer in his chosen field (movies, comics, cartoons, music, videogames, books, or whatever). Intelligent, knowledgeable, articulate and witty, he comes across as an exemplar of critical insight and acumen--until you notice he has only one basic song: "It stinks!" He compares everything to one impossible standard--the one artist or artwork that got it exactly and perfectly right--and viciously condemns everything else for not attaining the same level of perfection. His prickliness forces him into many fights, and if early in his career he is not overpowered by a superior warrior he will eventually attain the feared status of Kung-Fu Master (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame22.html) and attract a squadron of loyal Sycophants (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame38.html). He is regarded by other warriors with a mixture of respect and loathing, and he and the Philosopher (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame17.html) (who regards him as a narrow-minded bigot) are deadly enemies.

[Mattashell]

Don Knots:

This very nervous warrior is unable to determine the status of his opponents and is therefore unable to use wisdom to choose his battles. His attacks can be weak or strong but he is unable to determine the strength of his own blows, or those against him. He is known to strike and run away, even when he, haphazardly, finishes off his opponent ina single blow. He also can stand there confidently throwing out ineffective retorts while being crushed and not knowing it. He has similar tactics in peacetime discussions, never really knowing what he is or isn't capable of, or who is or isn't on his side. Clueless and confused and cowardly, yet a true wild card.

[The Dork Knight]

I'm a cross between a Don Knotts and a Nit Pick (http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame59.html) :D

- Foley Is Good

[Mattashell]

I'm a Garble, Jeckal and Hyde, Acne, Bong (in my case Bottle), Don Knotts, and Stone Deaf

[Mattashell]

Hen:

Much like a farm animal wandering across a real battlefield some posters are more like battle conditions then warriors. Hen's function is to polute the battlefield with explicitely private information about her friends, family and aquaintences. She truely believes that people are really interested. Though mostly harmless to flame warriors, one can assume these people would not be happy to know what strangers are reading about them.

Drunken Master:

An extremely powerful warrior who is quick to anger and even quicker to misinterprit a benign comment. He is somewhere between Bong and Kung-Fu Master. Drunk at his computer he is not nesseserily knowledgable or even smart. His strength is in his cruelty and has sent many a newbe crying from his console in shame for having made a comment that Drunken Master thought was sarcastic, or a sarcastic comment that was taken seriously. Admin does not tolerate Drunken Master.

[Mattashell]

Peanut Gallery:

No longer newbies but not full fledged warriors yet, some posters go through an adolescence as members of the Peanut Gallery. The Peanut gallery allways reply to Nanny's posts and are kissing up to him, and constantly asking him stupid questions. If Nanny or Admin mentions the name of a Gallery member in his post, or replays to a post he is pleased as punch. Ocasionally other powerfull warriors, such as Big Dog, or Kung Fu Master will sprout Peanut Galleries, but they are more of an annoyance than useful alies. Members of the Peanut Gallery love to play with any special features available in the given forum. They are strangely obsessed with their post-counts.

Senses Taker:

So dubbed because his constant questions will rob you of your senses. "Would you like to take a surey? Would you like to see George Wendt in a bean eating movie?" This guy tries to make himself look smart by asking all the questions, instead of answering them. He floods message boards with countless opinion polls, surveys what if scenarios, quizzes etc. In chatrooms he'll spout things like "If you think N'Sync are hotties press 8." Senses taker needs to develop his skills as a warrior, but he does have high aspirations. He clearly wants to be Nanny.