Smallville "Veritas" Talkback (Spoilers)

[The Penguin]

The final new Smallville completed before the writers' strike airs at 8 p.m. tonight on The CW. The show is expected to return April 17 with six more new episodes. Last week was Traveler (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=207432).

Brainiac is back! Here is the official preview from CWTV.com (http://www.cwtv.com).


http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/smallville-welling27.jpgSmallville #7-15 "Veritas"
Kara (Laura Vandervoort) decides to teach Clark (Tom Welling) how to fly in order to strengthen his chances against Brainiac (guest star James Marsters).

However, Brainiac seems to have the upper hand against the super cousins, and some of Clark's loved ones are caught in the crossfire.

Kristin Kreuk, Michael Rosenbaum, Allison Mack, Erica Durance, Aaron Ashmore and John Glover also star.

James Marshall directed the episode written by Brain Peterson & Kelly Souders.

[Rolling Cloud]

Lana in perpetual torment? Should I feel sad or not?

and, I hope that Lex doesn't re-use that "villain of the story" line again next episode. IMO, it would ruin the coolness of when he said it the first time.

[Azrael24]

i dont know whether to feel bad for lana or not :evil:

but im glad there following up on the swan story and that lionel's not bad he's just crazy.

oh and lois and jimmy finally got together

[Dogbert]

The Lois and Jimmy scenes seemed really unnecessary. Their big evidence was a photo showing that Swan's necklace had been stolen from her. So what? That would be great evidence if Lionel had it, but he didn't. Seems to me that the writers couldn't come up with a good story for Lois and Jimmy and had the throw them in. They might be useful if their investigation continues, but that hardly would make their ambush necessary or interesting.


but im glad there following up on the swan story and that lionel's not bad he's just crazy.Actually, I'd say driven is a better word for it. He was a little on edge this episode, and I certainly felt the writing behind his character was off last week, but his character doesn't seem "crazy" to me. He's very worried about something and seems to be quite frustrated that no one is taking him seriously. If nothing else, it was good to see that the writers have not forgotten he was a villain forever changed for the better by Jor-El. It was a bit obvious hearing him say it as such, but I'm glad they haven't dropped that idea like so many others.

[Hyper Shadow X]

What happened to Lana her eyes seemed weird or something at the end of the eppy which was all I saw.

[Katsumara]

Something Brainiac did to her earlier in the episode. I for one don't really care as much what happens with Lana, though if this happens to be her end, it is kinda sad. The episode in all was sort of "Ugh" mixed in with "bleh" from we've seen this same story before. Lionel going "mad" and from being driven to find someone to believe him was nice. Lex is still a bastage.

The previews for the next episode next month look interesting. My predictions are Lex is going to throw his father out of the building, turn and walk away only to have Super-...Clark come in to save the day by saving Lionel, because as we know -- people don't die/stay dead in Smallville. =[

[The Clown Prince]

The previews for the next episode next month look interesting. My predictions are Lex is going to throw his father out of the building, turn and walk away only to have Super-...Clark come in to save the day by saving Lionel, because as we know -- people don't die/stay dead in Smallville. =[

According to TVGuide's Michael Aussielo regarding a character going back as far as season 1....


Question: You said that a Smallville character will take "his" last breath in the April 17 episode of Smallville. Are we to assume that this person is a man? — Alex

Ausiello: Actually, I "said" his/her, so you should assume that it's a man, a woman or some combination of both. In related news, allow me to clarify a clue that I dropped in my vodcast last week regarding the upcoming death. The character about to get Grim Reapered has never been presumed dead by the audience. It's an important distinction.

Earlier in the week Aussielo said a "character will die that has never been presumed dead." That's what he means in his clarification above.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Gee Lionel looked like he was going to have a heart attack this whole episode! I'm begining to think that this force that Brainiac took Kara to might be Darkseid or something considering an upcoming episode title--however misleading the spelling is. I mean, goodness! What else would have Lionel pissing his pants if not an alien invasion?


Also, looks like Kryptonian's have the Pre-Crisis space travel power here...

[StormBlue]

According to TVGuide's Michael Aussielo regarding a character going back as far as season 1....


Question: You said that a Smallville character will take "his" last breath in the April 17 episode of Smallville. Are we to assume that this person is a man? — Alex

Ausiello: Actually, I "said" his/her, so you should assume that it's a man, a woman or some combination of both. In related news, allow me to clarify a clue that I dropped in my vodcast last week regarding the upcoming death. The character about to get Grim Reapered has never been presumed dead by the audience. It's an important distinction.

Earlier in the week Aussielo said a "character will die that has never been presumed dead." That's what he means in his clarification above.


With that bit of information, doesn't that factor out both LL's? Lex when he was "lost at sea" and Lionel when Jor-El possessed him?

[Peter Paltridge]

With that bit of information, doesn't that factor out both LL's? Lex when he was "lost at sea" and Lionel when Jor-El possessed him?
It factors out everyone except Clark himself. I think this guy's lying.

[The Clown Prince]

It factors out everyone except Clark himself. I think this guy's lying.

I don't think he's lying. Aussielo has got in's with just about everyone in the industry. When it comes to spoilers, he doesn't outright say it. Part of his gimmick over TVGuide is he drops spoilers in the form of hints and clues. His LOST tidibits have always been fun to read while not outright ruining the show. Smallville is no different. Though seeing that scene in the previews for the April 17th episode where it looks like Lex pushes Lionel out the window may be a red herring. It's too obvious and a character death usually comes as a surprise. Though we all know Lionel's death will happen by the end of the series and season 8 will probably be the last season.

I guess we'll see in 3 weeks. Also, that flasback scene where Lionel, Oliver's father, and Mr. Tiegue are all discussing what to do about the letter and the Travler, Jane Seymore was originally supposed to be a part of that scene, but Seymore's scheduling prevented it from happening. That's too bad because it would have been a nice touch and further helped with the connection to everything that has happened.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

The final two titles of the series are now...

7.19 is 'Quest', 7.20 is called 'Artic'.

With such awesom names...I'm begining to think...

[LazyReaper]

This was partially a good episode (aside from the main gripes that I usually have for the show), and it was nice to see a flashback to Lex's past involving the 4 families, and to the very day of the events before the meteor shower. It was funny to see that Oliver carried a bow and arrow back when he was little kid (but doesn't that conflict with his origin of learning his skills on an island?). Also, did anyone notice the little nod to Christopher Reeve's wheelchair?

As for the rest of the episode, there was not a whole lot that impressed me. Brainiac shows up and asks to take Kara, but no one really asks what he needs her for (atleast seriously anyway). Also, Kara just happens to know where Brainiac wants to take her as she leads him out into space (huh?).

I knew that the tagline of Kara teaching Clark to fly would be a 10-second line/clip at best from the moment I read it, and I was right. I wasn't really expecting anything aside from maybe one try from Clark, but we didn't even get that. Lame.

I didn't care for the Jimmy/Lois team up, and the whole ambush of theirs was laughable, but I have to at least give them props for trying to make it somewhat belieavable. Lex is boring me now, and that leaves with Lionel being the only interesting character left in this episode. It was cool see him beg to be taken seriously after all he had done in the past. It's inconsistent with how other characters have interacted with him in the past, but what else isn't in Smallville?

***

-Aximlli-

[Simpler Simon]

I don't know if this episode was always intended to get more love than the others, even before the writers strike, but it did and it shows. Right from the get-go the scope seems a little larger - I mean, when was the last time we saw the Kents taking care of real animals on the farm? We finally get to see someone taken to a hospital other than Smallville general. And continuity - it's awesome that the art dept. actually thought to get the actress for Patricia Swann to pose for cadaver photos. Really this is stuff other shows do all the time, but Smallville has always been poor at keeping track of these things so it's great when they finally do happen.

The flashbacks - I'm not even going to try going through the previous Swann/Teague episodes to see if the character interactions make sense. They won't. Though it's worth noting that based on the Oliver Queen chronicles/mobisodes released during season 6, the staff have been planning the Veritas group for more than a year. So it does have a little more weight than some of the other storylines. Also nice how they tied it all into that throwaway newspaper gag from the very first episode.

As for Brainac returning, he's really cemented himself as one of this Superman incarnation's most devious villains. This is what the show always needed - more recurring villains other than Lex. Lana's torment here is a far more powerful cliffhanger than season 6's exploding car. Especially since

Kreuk's only back for a few episodes next season, and she missed most of the post-strike eps as she's filming Street Fighter. So this may actually be her final fate

In all, a very good episode. More than likely the show will cop out when it returns next month, but this at least was an enoyable hour.

[The Clown Prince]

Episode description and pictures up for the April 17th airing of "Decent"... http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=191&itemid=12978

man, with that body covered up on the stairs there, I'm really thinking now that Lionel really did die from Lex's push that they just had to spoil in the previews. With both Lex and Clark at the gravesite, you know it's big character.

[Icer]

Ever since reading Ausiello's post I've figured it's Lionel, since none of the others make sense given the clues he gave and what we know about who could die and still keep Smallville running and not break too much continuity.

A sad "end" for Lana (for a few episodes I'm guessing), but that's not the end of her and Clark I'd bet.

[Aldrius]

If Lionel dies...

I'm probably never going to watch the show again.

...maybe for James Marsters.

But otherwise... just... nah. Not worth it to me.

Oh well. This episode was all right. I missed the ending, but it was okay.

[mookie75]

I'm putting my money on Lionel for being the one to die this season. I don't know if it'll happen in this next episode or not, but it seems to me that his time has finally come.

First, it was Jonathan who died, then they found a way to send Martha away. With this final step, the reign of the attractive 20-something model types can truly begin! mwa ha ha ha ha!!! :p


Hmm, perhaps that is what Lionel was referring to in this episode when he said that something "so terrible" was coming..... ;)

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Also, Kara just happens to know where Brainiac wants to take her as she leads him out into space (huh?).

-Aximlli-

I took it as her just getting a head start so Clark wouldn't be able to grab a hold of her or something. After all, didn't Brainiac lead the way once they got into space?


Anyhow, I think the final five episodes of this season'll be pretty big, that is some major poop is going to go down and it looks like Welling himself is getting to direct a big episode, too.

[Antiyonder]

First, it was Jonathan who died, then they found a way to send Martha away. With this final step, the reign of the attractive 20-something model types can truly begin! mwa ha ha ha ha!!! :p


Hmm, perhaps that is what Lionel was referring to in this episode when he said that something "so terrible" was coming..... ;)

And here Disneyboy stated that the show lost it's humorous tones.:D

[mookie75]

And here Disneyboy stated that the show lost it's humorous tones.:D


We won't rest until the opening credits are filled with no one except people that look simply fabulous with a fan blowing in their face as the camera pans around them! :p

[The Penguin]

Anyone want to talk about this episode or just speculate? ;)

Although I'm not sure how worth it that is. The weaving of the keys and safety deposit boxes made the entire "awaiting the Traveler" story more interesting and showed how far Lex is willing to go to find out the secrets his father once talked about with those who are no longer with us. The flashback to just before Lionel & Lex landed in Smallville was cool to see and I look forward to seeing what was behind it.

Brainiac sure was vicious with the way he went after Lana. I have a tough time seeing how she gets out of it. Somehow I don't think the "man" once know as Professor Milton Fine will be inclined to help.

"Just remember, if we'd have done this my way, no one would have gotten hurt."

[Good Ol' Batmanuel!]

I didn't realize until now, but I guess up here, we can see new episodes the day before it's on The CW. I've been watching it on Wednesday nights for quite a while now. I was looking for a new thread, but no dice.

Anyway...no spoiler, but I'll just say that...nah, you'll see. ;)