South Park - "Major Boobage" - Talkback (Spoilers)

[Space Cadet]

I didn't see one made, so here it is.

Episode 170: "Major Boobage"

Summary: "A South Park homage to the 1981 film, “Heavy Metal”, the boys are trying to get Kenny off the latest drug craze that’s captured the junior high and under set."

Hope its good. Airs tonight at 10:00 Eastern. It repeats tomorrow at 10 pm Eastern.

[LordTerminal]

If they start killing cats because of this or something similiar, I'm going to get pissed off. (pun not intended)

[tb4000]

I am seriously enjoying the Heavy Metal-esque scenes. The obvious psuedo-rotoscoped animation is hilarious.

[Don_East]

Missed the first act, but still I like this way better than last week's.

[Dudley]

Ya know, I like women's breasts as much as the next guy, but that's kinda too much.

I love how Kenny started to get high on the flowers in the end.

[nakak]

That was awesome. MUCH better than last week's.

Too many highlights to list, but I'd say they include, in no particular order:

1. The psychadelic sequences.
2. Gerald and Kenny fighting in the sandbox
3. The Anne Franks parody.
4. The very end, where Kenny gets high from life (flowers)

And is that a reference to Spitzer in the end, where Shelia is beside Gerald during his press conference?

[Railith]

So cats are one of the few things Eric Cartman truly cares about.

[garfield15]

Can I say the whole episode? But seriously...

Kyle: What are you doing with cats in your attic?
Cartman: They need to be hidden Kyle! Something you wouldn't understand
(Stan and Kyle's astonished faces)

Kenny: (muffled) Her boobs were sooooooo huge

Sheila's face during Mr. Broflowski's speech also "Don't touch me"

Kyle: So you don't see any parallels between that and anything in history?
Cartman: Ummmm...Nope, Nothing

Mr. Mackey: So you can get high off cat piss, m'kay?...I probably shouldn't have told you that m'kay

Any scene where it showed the "Heavy Metal" world and what the "cheesers" were actually doing (Like Kenny and Mr. Broflowski's "fight")

[SirLemming]

That was a classic-style episode, with better animation. I'm sure a knowledge of Heavy Metal would add to the experience, but the scenes were fairly brief, somewhat funny on their own terms, and from what little I know of Heavy Metal I sort of got the joke. I also liked how they had that Anne Frank parallel going throughout the episode to chuckle-worthy effect and then finally had the punchline where Kyle called Cartman out on it. It also tied in well with the plot, when Kenny found the secret stash.

The alarmist news report on "cheesing" was probably the funniest part of the episode. Also, I think Gerald Broflovski's confession press conference was loosely modeled after Gov. Elliot Spitzer's, so that's probably going to be the extent of their riffing on that situation. (I got that from the general look of it, plus when he said something like "I let myself down and I let my wife down.")

[garfield15]

So cats are one of the few things Eric Cartman truly cares about.

I know that this was supposed to be like Anne Frank but was Cartman impersonating anyone in particular?

[kid rabbit]

cartman has a heart at least we know he kind to animals (and crappy to people):mad:

[Beat]

I liked them playing the theme at the end, I was laughing out loud at Kenny getting high on the flowers.

[Desensitized]

Kenny with the crossed eyes and opened shirt with yellow all over his face was the best part. But him throwing up next to Butters and having no reaction was priceless, too.

Great episode. Felt like a season 3/4 episode.

[Golgo13]

Dang! Just DANG! I know this is probably the only show to ever reference Heavy Metal, but that was the BEST Heavy Metal parody I've seen and will ever see. I was surprised at how many of the stories they were able to squeeze in all at once...

-Soft Landing
-Den
-B-17
-So Beautiful, So Dangerous
-Tarrna

They even managed to squeeze a Locknar reference into all that boobage. The only stories they didn't reference were Harry Canyon and Captain Stern.

And even if you've never seen Heavy Metal, you can't help but admit that was some awesome animation. Hopefully, this will inspire a new generation to check out one of the greatest adult animated films of all time.

[nakak]

Say, did anyone notice that Kenny didn't die in this episode? Must've been tempting to have him die from drug overdose, but they chose not to.

That just makes this episode better.

[Luna]

I loved all the scenes involving Cartman hiding the cats....and his ignorance toward similar treatment of the Jewish in the past (or else he was just feigning ignorance to piss off Kyle)....
Also loved seeing Mr Mackey again....accidently telling kids ways they can get high (and Gerald repeats the same joke at the end)...

[New Noise]

What's up with this season and all the random humor? At least it wasn't as bad as last week's episode, but I still wouldn't say that it was better than the season premiere.

[Dogasu]

How did all those nipples get past the censors, anyway?

[SirLemming]

Another funny moment was when Randy said "And you never really get a good look at her naked boobs anyway."


How did all those nipples get past the censors, anyway?

Cable technically has no censors -- just advertisers who can withhold their support -- so there are no clear-cut rules. That brings it down to a judgment call on Comedy Central's part, which is already a plus. Then I guess they decided that it wasn't really done for pornographic effect, and it was a TV-MA show, so I guess that's that.

I can't imagine any advertisers being upset by this given the context. It just didn't seem all that filthy or titillating.

Although I have a feeling this will one never air in network syndication.

[Storm Eagle]

I loved all the scenes involving Cartman hiding the cats....and his ignorance toward similar treatment of the Jewish in the past (or else he was just feigning ignorance to piss off Kyle)....


I didn't get that bit myself. Anyway, I laughed at this episode a lot, and it was a good way to make up for last week's God-awful episode.

[sdp]

Well I think they were able to pass them off as male "man boobs". Before we start seeing so many boobs we see men with man boobs so I guess thats how they got "through". I mean you never saw the female show her boobs. Which is funny how a 2 second female boob scene would be viewed "more" offensive than boobs through out the episode.

[R-Taco]

This felt A LOT like one of the older (season 2, as season 1 was more crude for the sake of it) episodes. The only things reminding me of how new it was were the music and the Heavy Metal sequences.

[warnerbroman]

the censorship is so messed up in this episode it frustrating!

[Ultra8]

Very sweet.:D :anime: :D
Cool, Psychodelic, and Funny.
The best episode yet for the season, gotta love the ending with Kenny literally getting "high on life".

[warnerbroman]

finally an episode with good animation

[Lutochris]

Was that hand-drawn in the Heavy Metal scenes? If so I wonder who did it, I don't think Matt & Trey have a 2D animation studio there.

[Peter Paltridge]

Was that hand-drawn in the Heavy Metal scenes? If so I wonder who did it, I don't think Matt & Trey have a 2D animation studio there.
That's what I want to know; some of those scenes I could have mistaken for actual rotoscopes from Heavy Metal itself. They've never really had full animation on this show before; "Fun Times With Weapons" looked anime-ish but was really a variation of the computer cut-and-paste we usually see.

As the parody subtly suggests, Heavy Metal is not a film for the nudity-squeamish. Like, I'll admit, myself. But I resolved to sit through it last year. Good thing, or this wouldn't have been half as funny. Captain Stern was great. That was the corrupt space guy on trial for his life, correct?

This show has a dumb episode every now and then but it's got a much better success rate than most other animated shows on the air right now.

[Daxdiv]

I wanna know if anyone else was getting a "Eliot Spitzer" vibe from the final press conference at the end of the episode? Another thing is how I liked Shiela face matched practically anyone who a wife of a political figure showing no emotion, also it looked like she was "on something" for some reason.

Other than that, I liked how Cartman was defending the cats and taking them in, and the whole messed up fantasy fight between Gerald and Kenny.

[Radical]

Hilarious weird/strange Kenny episode today, here's the highlights:

Kenny a drug-crazed freak getting high from cat urine & flowers was hilarious:p.

Butters in another important role, the best character ever:D.

Gerald being the next victim on getting high from cat urine since he's just as dumb as Randy but funny along with his disturbing "fight" with Kenny with everybody watching.

The Heavy Metal animation was pretty cool & I think it was hand-drawn with great artistic skills.

Cartman's secret having a soft-spot for animals like cats was good which gets interesting in Cartman's character, but still lousy/crappy towards people.

Sheila's face during Gerald's speech.

Butters' parents covering Butters' ears not to hear Gerald's sick fantasy.

Wow:eek:,those South Park writers are such major perverts using too much boob usage in the Heavy Metal parody which is totally going past censorship & the monsters with boobs is the most disturbing thing I've ever saw which I guess that's what the movie is like?

[aalong64]

The Heavy Metal parody was absolutely hilarious. Probably one of the funniest, most dead-on spoofs I've ever seen. At first, the rest of the episode sort of seemed like they'd already covered the same sort of ground, but those Heavy Metal bits, and then pretty much the whole second half, made it above-average for me. I specifically liked Cartman's lines to Kyle about the cats being innocent victims, the sudden cut from the arena to Kyle's dad and Kenny in the sandbox, and Randy's comment during the speech.Also, I also got a Spitzer vibe from the speech, and Sheila's expression.

[SirLemming]

I wanna know if anyone else was getting a "Eliot Spitzer" vibe from the final press conference at the end of the episode? Another thing is how I liked Shiela face matched practically anyone who a wife of a political figure showing no emotion, also it looked like she was "on something" for some reason.
Me! Me! Give me extra credit for my earlier post on the subject!

Although I think the look on Shiela's face was one of disgust, which was funny because you know that's the face these politicians' wives always want to make.

[dth1971]

I even liked in the Kenny Cheesed "Heavy Metal" spoof footage the Don Fedler "Heavy Metal - Take a Ride" music.

Why would Kenny now get cheesed sniffing flowers too much?

Someday there could be a South Park episode spoofing the adult aimed animated cartoon "Fritz the Cat"!

[Crash]

That.....was truely a return to form. Awesome. Kenny! Mr Mackie and his 'drugs are bad' speach. Mr. Kitty. Gerald (rather than Randy). Something genuinely unexpected from Cartman. (Compasion?) The Spitzer moment.

And some really cool animation, to boot! Yeah, it looked cheap as heck, but still cool. Although, seriously, that's waht Heavy Metal was like? That must have been one messed up movie...

But seriously, a Kenny episode! An awesome Kenny eppisode. That alone ought to make this whole season worth it.

[spidl]

After the last two episodes were something of a dud I did not have high hopes for this episode. This was a really great episode, and it worked on almost every level.

[Silverstar]

Why would Kenny now get cheesed sniffing flowers too much?

Because it's a cartoon. Thus, the laws of reality are allowed to be warped.

[btv]

Finally they use Kenny. And I'm a pretty big fan of boobs, too. The episode was the best this season just for utilizing these two subjects.

But honestly, it was the best this season, because the first episode was just average and this one was just so awesome that it did beat out my praise for Brit's New Look. The animation, using Kenny, and using the kids and a character that hasn't really been focused on in a while (Kyle's Dad). And Cartman's subplot was really funny.

How can you not like this one? Aw man, this one was great... I don't know what else to say.

A+

[judyindisguise]

I'm not as wild about the animation as some here seem to be. But the fact that it was so crappy added to the fun IMO. Plus the "Schindler's List" moments from Cartman regarding the cats were hilarious. And lordy lordy the boobage. It's a riot to me that as long as the boobs weren't actually attached to a woman, it was okay (censorship-wise) to display them all over the place, on buildings and weapons and even ostriches. How twisted is that?

Not the greatest ep, but a lot of fun. 8/10.

[Lutochris]

That's what I want to know; some of those scenes I could have mistaken for actual rotoscopes from Heavy Metal itself. They've never really had full animation on this show before; "Fun Times With Weapons" looked anime-ish but was really a variation of the computer cut-and-paste we usually see.

It doesn't look like something that was done with Maya (or even Flash for that matter). How much of Heavy Metal was rotoscoped?

[Darklordavaitor]

Uh, not having seen Heavy Metal, was the animation really this choppy? What we got in this one was total CD-i quality.

Well, better than the past two weeks, I'd say. The fact that this was Kenny's biggest part in an episode since his death was good enough for me, but as I've come to expect these days, little to no laughs. Also could of gone without the poorly-drawn boobs.

Three weeks in a row, I caught the new South Park. Eh.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

You know thinking about it this had a more sideplot structured then most South Parks have had latley (at least you know the non two parters). On one hand we had Kenny becoming an addict, and then Gerald banning cats and revealing his own addict tendancies, and then Cartman becoming a haven for the cats around town. While it dosen't have a terrible old school feel it does at least try touching on it more then usual which is something. I'm also glad though that throughout even if it wasn't all on him, Kenny did carry a lot of this. Kenny has always been the most expirmental on certain things when it comes to the boys and would obviously crave the fantasy violent sex world of cat pee more then the others. So I appreciate all of his moments here, from the first bathing, the stabbing of that one guard, Kenny cursing and yelling at the other boys about his addiction, getting into Cartman's room, fighting Gerald in the collesium and the ending where he was really balls tripping off "life". Yeah would of liked more of Kenny but at least this time around he wasn't just a forgotten prop which is nice to see.

The rest of the plot was okay too. In truth Cartman's cat plot only had a solid beginning, with the return of Mr. Kitty doing something to the plot, (though I had thought in "Cat Orgy" it showed that Mr. Kitty was a female instead of a male. Eh that's one continuity error I don't care too much about though), Cartman putting Kitty in the attic and giving it a diary, and Kyle calling Cartman out on any moments similar to history to what he was doing (what happened to the jews in World War II) and Cartman not noticing. The middle with all the cats wasn't really too good actually and really they came a bit too close to giving Cartman a concinsence on an issue he really shouldn't have. The Gerald plot started out slower then it should of. I also was afraid it'd detract too much from Kenny's plot which it sort of did but at least the ending fighting Kenny and then the press confrence were pretty good (mainly for Randy's comment, and Gerald mentioning all the other ways you could get high). So overall better then the last two episodes actually. Not the strong SP standards Season 10 or even 11 had in they're best eps but at least better then what we have gotten.

[tb4000]

Uh, not having seen Heavy Metal, was the animation really this choppy? What we got in this one was total CD-i quality.

Well, better than the past two weeks, I'd say. The fact that this was Kenny's biggest part in an episode since his death was good enough for me, but as I've come to expect these days, little to no laughs. Also could of gone without the poorly-drawn boobs.

Three weeks in a row, I caught the new South Park. Eh.

That's the fun of it, man. It was supposed to look limited and gritty like the old graphic novels did. Google Heavy Metal and you'll see.

[90'sCartoonMan]

I haven't seen Heavy Metal, so I didn't enjoy this as much as some of you. I did like the plot, though, and appreciated the fact that a bunch of characters had stuff to do. Good use of Kenny, too. Sometimes he can be absent or present and it won't even matter, but they can still do episodes where he's the main character, which I like.


Say, did anyone notice that Kenny didn't die in this episode? Must've been tempting to have him die from drug overdose, but they chose not to.

I was wondering if they were going to do that, but I'm glad they didn't.


though I had thought in "Cat Orgy" it showed that Mr. Kitty was a female instead of a male. Eh that's one continuity error I don't care too much about though

Guess it bothered me more than it bothered you. I thought the entire point of naming him/her "Mr. Kitty" was a joke on Cartman's expense since the cat is female.

[Golgo13]

It doesn't look like something that was done with Maya (or even Flash for that matter). How much of Heavy Metal was rotoscoped?

Quite a bit. Soft Landing, B-17, and Taarna were all rotoscoped in one way or another. Soft Landing had stills airbrushed, B-17 had a negative painted B-17 model photographed in negatives and then painted, and just about all of Taarna was rotoscoped with real actors.

[garfield15]

So, like how "Make Love, Not Warcraft" turned about half a million viewers into World of Warcraft lovers and just like how the popularity of Guitar Hero increased after "Guitar Queer-O" how many viewers do you think tried (cough cough) Mary Jane piss in your face fun time?

[Beat]

I think if anything it might inspire people to go out and rent Heavy Metal. (Not Heavy Metal 2000, that sucked)

[Daxdiv]

I think if anything it might inspire people to go out and rent Heavy Metal. (Not Heavy Metal 2000, that sucked)

I'm actually half-tempted to do that thanks to this episode, just to see how close they stucked with the source material. It worked for me with WOW episode. I already Bought GH before that episode aired, so South Park must have some sort of magical spell.

[Golgo13]

I think if anything it might inspire people to go out and rent Heavy Metal. (Not Heavy Metal 2000, that sucked)

Well, if enough druggies actually believe that Heavy Metal is the movie to watch buzzed, Heavy Metal could easily become the big cult sensation it was decades ago.

Interestingly enough, I've heard that a NEW Heavy Metal movie is in the works, and, NO, it won't be like Heavy Metal 2000. They're actually getting a bunch of comic artists and writers together to write separate stories just like they did in the first movie.

[CaptainHero]

Did Jay Leno guest star as Mr Kitty in this episode again?

[Toonimator]

Was that hand-drawn in the Heavy Metal scenes? If so I wonder who did it, I don't think Matt & Trey have a 2D animation studio there.
Yep, I know some people who worked on it (there were only a handful who handled this part of the episode). It was done in Photoshop, actually, not on paper. Lots of rotoscoping, of course, but far as I know it wasn't direct rotos of actual Heavy Metal animation (maybe some art like the B-17). I know they did it fast, in just a couple of weeks, pretty much finishing it less than 24 hours before the show aired. I guess that's how it goes with South Park most of the time :D They worked in-house, too, for what it's worth. Since it was A) a parody and B) done in a super-short time, that's why a lot of it is pretty rough (not that the original was gorgeous fluid animation throughout).

And again with the boobs, because none of the bare ones were shown on a woman, they were perfectly fine. Heck, some of those local stations that air old SPs late at night will probably be allowed to show this as well, just for that silly censorship fact.

[Inkan1969]

I thought Kitty was female. Remember "Cat Orgy"?

The "Heavy Metal" stuff was amusing. I always thought that movie was overrated: A movie for the 15-year-old horny loser boy in all of us. Sticking big boobs everywhere in those scenes makes that point clearly.

[FinnMacCool]

I thought Kitty was female. Remember "Cat Orgy"?
Maybe Kitty takes after Cartman's mom in that regard.

[Treadwell]

Uh, not having seen Heavy Metal, was the animation really this choppy?

Not as much, no. SP did what many animated programs do when they present something animated in their own world--they make it choppier than their own animation so you can tell the difference.

But as has been pointed out, a lot of the Heavy Metal stuff used actual photographs and negatives, and that is such a laborious process that they were never done on Ones (that is, a new drawing or photo for every frame). More like Twos or Threes. So the spaceship/car and the bomber, for example, looked "choppier" than the hand-drawn animation.

[SirLemming]

No need to start a new thread yet, but here's this week's episode description:

This Week on South Park: "Canada on Strike"
The head of the World Canadian Bureau leads the country into a long and painful strike and the responsibility of brokering a settlement rests with the boys.
Looks like we'll be getting a writer's strike-themed episode after all.

[Desensitized]

Hopefully some Terrence & Phillip too.

Though I wouldn't mind some Scott. :D

[nakak]

When was the last time Terrance and Philip were seen in SP? It's been a while, I think.

[Tobias]

When was the last time Terrance and Philip were seen in SP? It's been a while, I think.

Cartoon Wars, Part 2, I believe. Terrance was still grossly overweight, too, so I guess that's a permanant thing for his character.

[DarthGonzo]

I find it interesting that this week is the ten year anniversary of the April Fools "Not Without My Anus" stunt. Perhaps that occurred to them when they were thinking of a plot to this week's episode.

[Desensitized]

^I didn't think about that, I wonder how they'll deal with it.

And the last time we saw Terrence he lost some weight, so maybe he'll be back to normal size again.

[Fan of Sponge]

Did Jay Leno guest star as Mr Kitty in this episode again?

Jay Leno guest starred as Mr. Kitty in the last episode of the first season titled "Cartman's Mom...". All the other episodes have Trey Parker voicing Mr. Kitty.

Anyways I find the episode to be enjoyable with Kenny being portrayed in one of the few episodes with him being the major component. I liked how Matt & Trey were able to cut out and paste Kenny and Gerald into the film Heavy Metal. Even though I never seen Heavy Metal, I understand what was fantasy for "cheesing" and the basic synopsis of the film. I did find it ironic how Cartman was harboring cats in his attic especially for his love to Mr. Kitty being shown. I liked the current reference of Eliot Spitzer at the end. I thought in the last few seconds, Kenny would die from sniffing all those flowers. I guess not.

I can't wait for Wednesday's episode featuring Matt & Trey's portrayal of Canada again. Makes me wonder if the episode is going to be a two parter.