More Cartoons That May Have Been Released With an Edit

[PorkyandDaffy]

TICK TOCK TUCKERED – After the shoe comes in through the other window and hits him in the back of the head, Porky picks up the shoe, then he’s suddenly standing by the window across from him, and he’s not holding the shoe anymore.

HOLLYWOOD DAFFY – After Tarzan crashes off-screen, there’s an abrupt fade to black.

[Thad Komorowski]

Originally posted by PorkyandDaffy
TICK TOCK TUCKERED – After the shoe comes in through the other window and hits him in the back of the head, Porky picks up the shoe, then he’s suddenly standing by the window across from him, and he’s not holding the shoe anymore.

HOLLYWOOD DAFFY – After Tarzan crashes off-screen, there’s an abrupt fade to black.

"Tick Tock Tuckered" is most likely to be a break in the film, like in "Guided Muscle", when Wile E. starts running, and then he is suddenly caught up to the Road Runner. "Hollywood Daffy" is like that on the video Daffy Duck Cartoon Festival: AIN'T THAT DUCKY?. I always wondered why Jack Benny and Rochester weren't caricatured in it...

-Thad:D

[PlopKat]

Thad wrote:
I always wondered why Jack Benny and Rochester weren't caricatured in (Hollywood Daffy)...

Jack Benny was the man at the iron claw machine trying to get the Academy Award. Guess Rochester was waiting in the the Maxwell.

-PlopKat

[Jack]

So, did Jack Benny ever get one of those Oscars?

Jack:D

[PorkyandDaffy]

If Rochester were in it, then it would probably be another cartoon sadly edited on the Cartoon Network.

[PlopKat]

Jack asked:
So, did Jack Benny ever get one of those Oscars?

Jack Benny never won an Academy Award, though he did host them a few times in the late 1940s and early 1950s. As he made only comedies/musical comedies (rarely prime Oscar material), he was never nominated either.

If he ever had a chance at an award, it would have been for To Be Or Not To Be in 1942 (which was remade by Mel Brooks in 1983). I like most of his other movies, too. The Horn Blows At Midnight is nowhere near as bad as Benny played it up to be; it has a fun climactic chase around a billboard for coffee. Buck Benny Rides Again is also good. Eddie "Rochester" Anderson sings and dances to the song "My, My," which is the background music used in the Popeye cartoon Poopdeck Pappy when Pappy is dancing in the bar.

I don't think Benny ever got an honorary Oscar either.

-PlopKat

[Brandon Pierce]

I feel something may be cut in My Bunny Lies Over The Sea .
When McCorry accidently makes a hole in one Bugs gets miffed and says, "You dirty little flor-flusher! You can't..." and Bugs is cut off by an arubt fade to black.
Also something MUST be edited in A Feather In His Hare. The footage of Bugs about to jump in a lake, noticing the native, than turning his tail into a prop, all looks "newer" than the rest of the cartoon, I suspect a scene cut, and later replaced with a new scene.

[Jack]

I suspect a lot of stuff happened to "Fresh Airedale" before release, as well as before re-release. Lines about the war were missing, and the backgrounds behind the number one dog feature a generic mansion, only to show the White House in the newspaper photo.

I'll have to watch for "A Feather In His Hare," I'm curious now... But the propellor tail thing strickes me as strangely animated, as inbetween animation is missing.


Jack:D

[Thad Komorowski]

When "Fresh Airedale" was re-issued as a Blue Ribbon, references to the war were cut out like "It was 40 points for that roast, but it's sure worth it" and "I'm off to bat out some more battleships for my Uncle Sammy". These lines could've been cut before the ORIGINAL release, since "Fresh Airedale" was released months after WWII finally ended. It seems that the DUBBED VERSION restored these lines.

-Thad:D

[Jack]

I know, I have the new version on tape. Backgrounds could have been redone easily before release too, but animation of the newspaper would have been more of a trouble. I don't know, "Fresh Airedale" is one of those cartoons that puzzles me with continuity errors, maybe I'm looking into it too deeply. Anyhow, it's one of favorite cartoons...


Jack:D

[PorkyandDaffy]

CATCH AS CATS CAN - At the end, after Sylvester as Bing Crosby says "Nothing like vitamins," the scene abruptly fades out to the ending title card, with no iris-out music.

Don't forget about that abrupt cut in BABY BOTTLENECK when the mama pig is about to say something to the baby alligator.

[Crazy Tom]

How surprising it is to see a few notes on "A Feather In Its Hare", which was banned from June Bugs last month! Out of the 12 that were banned I have seen 9 of them, including that one. All the executives are now in a public rabbit stew.

Also, why does CN feel it has to edit material before videotapes of cartoons can be released? It's pretty interesting...Disney has been doing this for several years with the re-issue of films and nobody has given them a hard time!

[Jack]

Also, why does CN feel it has to edit material before videotapes of cartoons can be released? It's pretty interesting..

WB doesn't censor the cartoons on video, we're talking about edits that occured before the cartoon was released to the theaters, with footage never seen by the public, or at least not seen since it's first theatrical run.

and welcome to the TTTP board!

Jack:D

[AuroraSzalinski]

Originally posted by Crazy Tom
It's pretty interesting...Disney has been doing this for several years with the re-issue of films and nobody has given them a hard time!

You mean like the edited Fantasia, Make Mine Music and Melody Time? Actually, they did give them a hard time (and rightfully so), there was a petition and such. Sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine and I just had to put in my two cents. :D

[Brandon Pierce]

The reaction music of Bugs noticing the native is a bit off. It goes off before Bugs sees the indian. Heck, we can hear the music before we even see Bugs!

[Thad Komorowski]

There's also "Popeye and the Pirates" (1947). After disguising himself as a woman and tricked the pirate off the boat, he thinks he has gotten rid of the pirate and begins to take off his disguise, but there is a sudden cut to Popeye running from the pirate again, in his regular white sailor suit. The film is like this in all TV prints, and many people say that they cut out Popeye's possible women's underwear. Here are some images I found of that scene:



http://www.toonzone.net/looney/picts/popeyepirates1.jpg

http://www.toonzone.net/looney/picts/popeyepirates2.jpg



-Thad:D

[barnyarddawg]

Hare Remover has a strange cut from Elmer saying "I needed a wabbit and I got one! Huwway! Huwway!" to suddenly carrying Bugs with a disgruntled look on his face. I understand that Tashlin like to experiment with editing to get the right comic effect, but that cut is so abrubt that it makes you wonder if something is missing. Also, The Stupid Cupid's ending is very abrubt, I wonder what was going on there. Was Tashlin just trying to let us use our imagination to figure out what was going to happen to Daffy? Or is there some missing footage there?

[PorkyandDaffy]

The ending to ELMER'S PET RABBIT seems abrupt, too. After Bugs yells, "Turn out that light!!" a second time, Elmer turns out the light and the screen goes black, then the ending title card shows up suddenly. There's no ending iris out music, unless they purposely didn't put an ending iris out music since the screen was already black and there was no point to use an iris out. It still seems abrupt.

Or is it just like this on the dubbed version (I remember the dubbed version of FALLING HARE fades out abruptly, too, but the undubbed version has an iris out ending).

[hippety hopper]

Does anybody know if anything was cut from the Disney cartoon "Plutopia"?

Thad I saw that Popeye cartoon the other day BUT wasn't paying much attention to it so I didn't notice the cut BUT CN and Bommerang UK show the same Popeye cartoons Over and over again so the next time its shown I will have to have a look out for that cut.

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by PorkyandDaffy
The ending to ELMER'S PET RABBIT seems abrupt, too. After Bugs yells, "Turn out that light!!" a second time, Elmer turns out the light and the screen goes black, then the ending title card shows up suddenly. There's no ending iris out music...Or is it just like this on the dubbed version (I remember the dubbed version of FALLING HARE fades out abruptly, too, but the undubbed version has an iris out ending).


You are correct on Falling Hare, since there is an abrupt fade to accomodate the dumb redubbed closing, but the original ending has the iris closing.

On Elmer's Pet Rabbit, I believe that is the proper ending regarding the second "Turn Out That Light!" You need to closely listen to the end of the verse of "Strollin' Through The Park" to understand why there is proper synchronicity with the ending. No wonder there wasn't a need for an iris there!

[Brandon Pierce]

I found something screwy in The Old Grey Hare. When Bugs starts the flashback to where him and Elmer are babies, Bugs says, "You were comin' along with your little pop gun, and I was..." and Bugs gets cut off by Baby Elmer saying "Goo-gaa". Whattheheck? Why did Bugs get cut off? What was he about to say? Has anyone else noticed this?

[Mibbitmaker]

I believe that was a filmmaking gimmick to fade into the story, losing the narration. It's being abrupt may have to do with Clampett's habbit of quick editing to make the pace faster.

...But, then, I could be wrong.

[Jack]

Did Bugs' voice fade out as the scene changed, or was it abrupt like being cut off. Mibbitmaker is probably right if it fades out, I've heard that gimmic a lot, rather than listening to all of Bugs' narration, we see it instead.


Jack:confused:

[PorkyandDaffy]

I believe that was a filmmaking gimmick to fade into the story, losing the narration. It's being abrupt may have to do with Clampett's habbit of quick editing to make the pace faster.

That's what I was thinking. That's probably the reason Bugs stopped talking all of a sudden.

[Crazy Tom]

Here's another one for you: TRAP HAPPY PORKY (1946). The very beginning was recently chopped off for really no reason, but all because the sign of the house said "Uncle Tom's Cabins...Boarders Taken (For What They've Got)".

Isn't that taking things a bit too far? What on God's earth is the matter with Uncle Tom's Cabin? As a matter of fact, the rock group Warrant did a song called Uncle Tom's Cabin back in 1991...I remember the video very well.

Another case of power winning instead of history.

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by Crazy Tom
TRAP HAPPY PORKY (1946)

Trap Happy Porky was actually released in 1945.

[Brandon Pierce]

In Scalp Trouble when all the soldiers run over Daffy, Daffy clings to his sword and he opens his mouth and says something. But, whatever it was, it's muted.

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by Brandon Pierce
In Scalp Trouble when all the soldiers run over Daffy, Daffy clings to his sword and he opens his mouth and says something. But, whatever it was, it's muted.

It's probably some kind of rude language.

[Brandon Pierce]

Little Red Walking Hood: After Grandma says, "Wolf, stay away from my door!" She turns her head to the camera, and it looked like it she was about to say something, but instead it cuts to the next part where the wolf is trying to break the door down (you'd think he'd be smart enough to just *open* it.)

[Crazy Tom]

The return of the Crazy one...

I'm back from Cali amigos! I learned recently that my article is now on the net...on those Un-Merrie Melodies.

Check it out at:

looneyviews.100megsfree4.com/editorials/unmerrie.htm

...and let me know what you think!

[Brandon Pierce]

Draftee Daffy
Daffy is hiding in the closet with the man from the draftboard behind him. Daffy turns around with a shocked expression on his face as if he's startled. Then, it cuts to Daffy facing the opposite direction, and then realizing who's behind him. And THEN returns to another shocked expression. That looked odd. Something must have been cut. Either that or it was Bob Clampett's version of a "double take".

[PorkyandDaffy]

GOLDEN YEGGS - After the hick duck- who's telling the viewers that he really layed the golden egg - makes that "grrrrkkkk" noise with his neck, he turns to the camera to say something else, but then we suddenly go to the next scene.

[Brandon Pierce]

In Yankee Doodle Mouse (I think that's the title) when Jerry is repeatedly spanking Tom with a paddle board, an arupt blackout occurs to the next scene.
And, in The Up-Standing Sitter, after Daffy breaks down the dog house, and the dog is about ready to pound Daffy, then suddenly everything cuts to the next scene with the baby chicken on the telephone wires, and you see Daffy standing on the ground. WAITAMINUT! What happened to the dog getting ready to beat up Daffy? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Mibbitmaker]

I think the Draftee Daffy scene was Clampett doing a multiple-take; more than just a double-take. I love that part. I've counted how many reactions to the same thing Daffy makes there, but I don't remember the number.

Just the kinda thing Clampett'd do, too!

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:yakko: :wakko: :dot: :bosko: <--- Ah, somethin' NEW has been added! :)

[Jack]

I agree with Mibbitmaker, it was done for comic effect.

I'll have to re-watch "Golden Yeggs," but the scene mentioned there sounds natural. Perhaps they didn't want to end the scene with the duck in a "grrrrkkkk" position. Did he make a specific mouth movement just as the scene faded out, or did he just turn to the camera?


Jack :D

[Tintin]

HIP-HIP-HURRY! - The scene where Wile E. get pipe out where appear a chinese face.

HIGHWAY RUNNERY - After was explosed the Road Runner clock, Wile E. was a blackface.

BEWITCHED BUNNY - The scene where Bugs say the line where a mysogine phrase on Canada.

[PorkyandDaffy]

I'll have to re-watch "Golden Yeggs," but the scene mentioned there sounds natural. Perhaps they didn't want to end the scene with the duck in a "grrrrkkkk" position. Did he make a specific mouth movement just as the scene faded out, or did he just turn to the camera?

Yeah, he turned to the camera and moved his mouth to say something before it cut away.

[Brandon Pierce]

There may be a scene cut in Tweety and the Beanstalk. In the scene where Sylvester uses an apple to catapault himself into Tweety's cage. He grabs Tweety and takes off running. Tweety shouts out, "Help! Help! The putty tat dot me!" Then, Tweety shouts something else out, but it looks like it was muted out, even though you can still hear music in the backround.

[Thad Komorowski]

In "Hare Splitter", after Bugs says to Casbah, "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?", Bugs moves his mouth, but nothing comes out!


-Thad

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by Brandon Pierce
There may be a scene cut in Tweety and the Beanstalk...Tweety shouts something else out, but it looks like it was muted out, even though you can still hear music in the backround.

Brandon, from what I have seen in this classic cartoon, I honestly think the line "The Puddy Tat Got Me!" had no other line that followed it. I saw the version on the 1985 Golden Jubilee Tweety & Sylvester tape as well as 1001 Rabbit Tales, and it was exactly the same thing. Maybe when the animators put this thing together in 1956, they might have experimented with a line that followed but it never made the final cut.

Then again, I could be wrong...it's only a guess.