Wow, so even Movie creators are against Video-Games?

[Novapocalypse]

******** no one cares about.

[Daxdiv]

This is what happened when Halo 3 came out, Hollywood blamed the success of the game on them failing and being overly-cliche.

[Desensitized]

And here I thought it under-preformed because of bad word of mouth. But clearly it's because the whole family would rather play Halo 3 and Wii Sports.

Curse you videogames, you're destroying the movie industry!

[CartoonOverlord]

Couldn't they just realize that they themselves are at fault for making a bad movie? .....Naw, that would be too easy.

[garfield15]

Couldn't they just realize that they themselves are at fault for making a bad movie? .....Naw, that would be too easy.

What? Actually admit that they failed at creating a movie and not blame it someone else? In the words of Stewie Griffin "You must be shrooming"

[Classic Speedy]

Competing technology isn't a new idea like Jeff makes it seem, but we ARE living during a recession. The media market is overcrowded as it is, and when you add recession on top of it, when people are more careful/reluctant to buy fun things, certain media are going to suffer.

And being that Halo is one of the biggest gaming phenomenons and each new sequel is hotly anticipated (which I can't say the same about Shrek), it's no wonder it cut into some of Shrek's "anticipated" profits.

[Darklordavaitor]

Yet another dumb quasi-video game-related thread. Gotta love the internet.

[TKnHappyNess]

Somebody should tell them that game based movies suck, and vice-versa. They only keep making the latter because of the parents who are dumb enough to buy them for their kids.

[HG Revolution]

Shrek 3 underperformed? It was the #2 movie of the year! Unless the expectations in Hollywood are crazier than they were just a few weeks ago or so.

[RockmanDash]

Well of course movie creators blame video games they got nothing else to blame most of the time. Maybe they should just face the fact that their movie was bad or just was not that good as they thought it was?

[Gokou Ruri]

Their complaints, while overblown, have merit. Today's media industry is fairly populated with tons of mediums. Television, movies, video games, books, comics, and others, some of these mediums have taken a few blows and lost a lot of their shine in recent years. Though complaining about Shrek 3's success is laughable, considering how well it did. I doubt Halo and Shrek's audiences overlap that much

[Rasputin]

At first I thought it was a bit rich to say Shrek the Third 'underperformed' when it made over $300 million domestically. But after a more thorough look at the article I realised Jeff was referring to DVD sales, not cinema box office.

Which, as Speedy Boris mentioned, makes sense. The US is in recession due to a debt mountain brought on by an unprecedented consumer binge, and now rather than buying everything that comes out, media consumers need to prioritise.

[Juu-kuchi]

Might as well chide in how Ebert has some bigoted animosity against video games and how much I dislike it. So glad Warren Spector (Deus Ex) tore him a new one, sadly Ebert doesn't care.

[Rook]

Here's something, how come Goldeneye out of all the lack-luster movie-based games in history seems to get the most positive praise?

Is it because its in the one genre that would suit a spy action adventure movie, that being fps?

Beside the lack of effort in most movie-based games, do you think that maybe its also because mismatching genre? noting that most movies of late have been 3rd person adventure ones.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Here's something, how come Goldeneye out of all the lack-luster movie-based games in history seems to get the most positive praise?

Is it because its in the one genre that would suit a spy action adventure movie, that being fps?

Beside the lack of effort in most movie-based games, do you think that maybe its also because mismatching genre? noting that most movies of late have been 3rd person adventure ones.

You know Goldeneye doesn't and didn't quite fit into the current ideal of movie based video game. I'm not entirely sure about this but while it was the most recent Bond movie at the time... wasn't it years after the movie that Goldeneye came out? It wasn't so much a "sell the game based on the movie to cash in on the movie success" like every movie based Bond game has felt like since then. It certainly is a license based game but it just doesn't seem to have that same stigma as all those games made during the production of the movie in order to be released around the same time as the movie.

Mismatching genres certainly doesn't help either but even movie based games that fit their genre can well... suck. Enter the Matrix for example. You couldn't have picked a better genre for the game but it still didn't turn out well. Or the movie based TMNT game. It just falls flat even though its more ninja-esque than any other Ninja Turtles game to date.

[HG Revolution]

Might as well chide in how Ebert has some bigoted animosity against video games and how much I dislike it. So glad Warren Spector (Deus Ex) tore him a new one, sadly Ebert doesn't care.

Ebert doesn't hate video games (he's reviewed them for Wired in the past, loved Tron and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within more than about anyone else in the universe, and knew enough about them to point out a few trivial errors in The Wizard), he just doesn't consider them "art". I'd personally disagree with that, but just because I don't consider sports art doesn't mean I hate sports.

[SNS]

You know Goldeneye doesn't and didn't quite fit into the current ideal of movie based video game. I'm not entirely sure about this but while it was the most recent Bond movie at the time... wasn't it years after the movie that Goldeneye came out?

It was originally intended to be a Super Nintendo game to be released in Fall 1995 before the movie but it got pushed back to Fall 1997 on the Nintendo 64 (right before Tomorrow Never Dies was released). This is of course because it's a Rare game & they usually make sure to take their time so their games are of high quality.

[Classic Speedy]

Ebert doesn't hate video games (he's reviewed them for Wired in the past, loved Tron and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within more than about anyone else in the universe, and knew enough about them to point out a few trivial errors in The Wizard), he just doesn't consider them "art". I'd personally disagree with that, but just because I don't consider sports art doesn't mean I hate sports. Eh... I seem to remember him saying they were the equivalent of electronic babysitters at one point, though.

[Antiyonder]

I'm pretty sure the Spider-Man movie based games had decent reception.