Superman vs. The Hulk: Who Wins?

[Aizen]

Who would win in this enraging battle? (Oh and please don't close this thread, close the "Clash of the Titan" one.)
Superman?
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or The Hulk?
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[Silverstar]

Superman would own Hulk. He's done it a few times already.

All logistics and stats aside, Supey is DC's premier character; no way would DC allow Hulk to beat him.

[Ed Liu]

Poll added. Going to delete the other thread now.

-- Ed

[JAG]

Superman, almost no question. I've said it before, in another thread, but Superman has (way) more power in one hand than Hulk has in his whole body. Supes can lift hundreds of thousands of tons, Hulk can lift a few hundred, at best. Add to that Superman's flight, superior invulnerability, heat vision, etc. and his ability to think under pressure (which the Hulk's blind anger makes difficult), and we have a fairly clear winner. Which isn't to say that Hulk might not get lucky and land a few good punches to take the win, but that's highly unlikely. I think I'd rather see Hulk win, though, so he could prove to the omniverse/multiverse/whatever once and for all that "HULK IS STONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!!"

[Dr. Faust]

I don't remember where I saw the picture, it was actually a few pictures, scanning of some pages of a Super-Man/Spider-Man team up they both faced a rampaging Hulk destroying the city.
Hulk gave Supe's a punch that made him fly to the rubble then punched out of the rubble and went back where Spidey was holding the Hulk back (I guess), Supe came back and Hulk kept punching him with Spidey staring in surprise how Supe is still alive and recieving many punches from the Hulk still standing till the Hulk got tired and turned back to Doctor Robert Bruce Banner, supes haven't moved an inch.

And JAG does remind me of Spider-Man's first encounter with each:

In Amazing Spider-Man v1 #14: A young and teenage Spider-Man received a punch from the tip of the Hulk's fist and only went back a couple of yards.

In Super-Man vs the Amazing Spider-Man: Super-Man didn't touch Spidey, he kept a few inches between his fist and Spidey's torso and Spidey flew back way a distance behind. This happened after years of experience and growth.

[Aizen]

Poll added. Going to delete the other thread now.

-- Ed
Thanks man, I didn't know what was going on with me...

[Brainatra]

And JAG does remind me of Spider-Man's first encounter with each:

In Amazing Spider-Man v1 #14: A young and teenage Spider-Man received a punch from the tip of the Hulk's fist and only went back a couple of yards.

In Super-Man vs the Amazing Spider-Man: Super-Man didn't touch Spidey, he kept a few inches between his fist and Spidey's torso and Spidey flew back way a distance behind. This happened after years of experience and growth.

But probably not as many years as the Earth-1 Superman had had experience-and-growth for (circa-20 years, comic-book-time---having started his career as Superboy)... ;-)

[Dr. Faust]

But probably not as many years as the Earth-1 Superman had had experience-and-growth for (circa-20 years, comic-book-time---having started his career as Superboy)... ;-)
I meant Spider-Man had more years of experience after the first Hulk encounter

[Aizen]

Didn't Hulk have the power to literally destroy Earth in World War Hulk?

[En Sabah Nur]

Didn't Hulk have the power to literally destroy Earth in World War Hulk?He did. He is the world Breaker. Supes power is limited, and he has weaknesses. Hulk's power has no limits. His power comes from anger and rage. When Hulk is angry, and he was angriest during WWH, he can destroy planets. So yea Hulk all the way. There is no way in any way shape or form Superman could beat the Hulk, thats just not possible.

[guerillacropoli]

If Doomsday could fight Superman to a draw (if you call "killing each other" a draw), why couldn't Hulk? Don't both of these characters have basically the same powers? Incredible strength+blind rage=Pain.

At least, that's why I voted for a draw.

[Jin Kazama]

There is no way in any way shape or form Superman could beat the Hulk, thats just not possible.

He's already done it at least twice.

Just like Hulk gets stronger with anger, as long as Superman is under a yellow sun, he'll always have strength. He'll keep getting up.

It could easily go either way.

[Dr. Faust]

How come they weren't strong at night on Krypton?
Is Superman's strength affected by night?

[En Sabah Nur]

He's already done it at least twice.

Just like Hulk gets stronger with anger, as long as Superman is under a yellow sun, he'll always have strength. He'll keep getting up.

It could easily go either way.Hulk was never this angry before when he faced Superman. All those previous encounters can be forgotten. Hulk WWH state can rip supes in half.

[Blackstar]

How come they weren't strong at night on Krypton?

No one was super strong on Krypton, ever. Krypton had a red sun, which canceled any super natural abilities. Kryptonians only gain super powers when under a yellow sun.

Is Superman's strength affected by night?No. Superman absorbs solar energy and stores it on reserve like a battery.

But to answer the topic question: It could honestly go either way, depending on who's writing the story, but generally, since Hulk's power is fueled by rage, which clouds his judgment and rationality, I'd say Superman could defeat him easily. Anyway, as previously stated, Supes has beaten Hulk before.

[En Sabah Nur]

But to answer the topic question: It could honestly go either way, depending on who's writing the story, but generally, since Hulk's power is fueled by rage, which clouds his judgment and rationality, I'd say Superman could defeat him easily. Anyway, as previously stated, Supes has beaten Hulk before.He did beat him before, but Hulk was not as angry as he was During WWH. Understand that. During WWH, Hulk's intelligence was increased, not decreased. He beat Juggernaut bot by strength but but by using his unstoppable ability against him. He tricked Dr. Strange by breaking his hands. WWH Hulk is not only smart but he is the "Strongest One There Is".

[Robin2099]

He did beat him before, but Hulk was not as angry as he was During WWH. Understand that. During WWH, Hulk's intelligence was increased, not decreased. He beat Juggernaut bot by strength but but by using his unstoppable ability against him. He tricked Dr. Strange by breaking his hands. WWH Hulk is not only smart but he is the "Strongest One There Is".

Course he couldn't defeat the Sentry though. Factoring in how Supes could most likely take out Sentry I think he could still handle WWH Hulk.

[En Sabah Nur]

Course he couldn't defeat the Sentry though. Factoring in how Supes could most likely take out Sentry I think he could still handle WWH Hulk.First, it was a draw. Second, The Sentry has the power of a Million exploding suns. Superman has no chance of defeating him on pure power alone. Sentry has a huge weakness which is his schizophrenic agoraphobic mind which Superman could exploit per se. But Hulk has no such weakness. In fact, WWH Hulk was the most intelligent Hulk we have ever seen, and the strongest (he was I beliave stronger than Hulk 2099 or Maestro).

[Aizen]

En Sabah Nur is giving very good points...
I am not too sure who will win now...
But Sentry's attacks are solar based and that is Superman's power source so...Superman will own Sentry.

[Blackstar]

He did beat him before, but Hulk was not as angry as he was During WWH. Understand that. During WWH, Hulk's intelligence was increased, not decreased. He beat Juggernaut bot by strength but but by using his unstoppable ability against him. He tricked Dr. Strange by breaking his hands. WWH Hulk is not only smart but he is the "Strongest One There Is".

Well, to reiterate what I've already said, I think that it could either way, depending on the situation and which version of Hulk or Supes we're dealing with, and which author is penning the scenario.

[Wounded_Dragon]

If Doomsday could fight Superman to a draw (if you call "killing each other" a draw), why couldn't Hulk? Don't both of these characters have basically the same powers? Incredible strength+blind rage=Pain.

At least, that's why I voted for a draw.

Doomsday got retconned into some ever-evolving super-beast that revives after death, becoming immune to whatever killed him.

[Aizen]

Well who would win if Hulk and Superman both at their strongest fought?

[En Sabah Nur]

En Sabah Nur is giving very good points...
I am not too sure who will win now...
But Sentry's attacks are solar based and that is Superman's power source so...Superman will own Sentry.Sentry has the power of a Million of exploding Suns, that does not mean he gets his power from the sun. Its just a comparison of how powerful he is. In fact it was never stated where his power comes from, and there is no indication that its from the sun at all.

Well who would win if Hulk and Superman both at their strongest fought?I say its the Hulk.

[Robin2099]

First, it was a draw. Second, The Sentry has the power of a Million exploding suns. Superman has no chance of defeating him on pure power alone. Sentry has a huge weakness which is his schizophrenic agoraphobic mind which Superman could exploit per se. But Hulk has no such weakness. In fact, WWH Hulk was the most intelligent Hulk we have ever seen, and the strongest (he was I beliave stronger than Hulk 2099 or Maestro).But the Sentry is still the strongest character in Marvel, yet he couldn't take out Hulk. And while we do know that the Sentry has the power of " a million exploding suns" for the most part he doesn't use it( and knowing his mental problems) who knows if he's truly capable of using it anyway.

As for Supes strength in comparison to WWH Hulk, well I guess that depends on which Supes we are talking about. Is it pre-crisis Supes, who could stop a 747 with one finger, or post crisis which got significantly downgraded. I still do think post-crisis Supes could beat WWH Hulk though. Or they'd just kill each other.

[Aizen]

But the Sentry is still the strongest character in Marvel,
Lol...you don't mean that do you?
I'm gonna have to give the edge to Hulk here, simply because once he was so mad, his feet shook the Earth, and I doubt Superman can ever do that...
By the way, I doubt Sentry can defeat Superman...What was Sentry's greatest accomplishments anyways?

[En Sabah Nur]

Lol...you don't mean that do you?
I'm gonna have to give the edge to Hulk here, simply because once he was so mad, his feet shook the Earth, and I doubt Superman can ever do that...
By the way, I doubt Sentry can defeat Superman...What was Sentry's greatest accomplishments anyways?Beating The WWH Hulk to a standstill.

[Aizen]

Beating The WWH Hulk to a standstill.
Besides that I mean.

[En Sabah Nur]

Besides that I mean.Killed Carnage by ripping him in two. Went toe to toe with the Collective and Ultron. Defeated Galactus' Herald Terrax The Tamer with ease, actually broke his axe.

[Anyone00]

"Of course the Hulks stronger than Superman; the madder the Hulk gets the stronger he gets. Superman never gets mad!" -The Eye Patch Wearing Kid in the Comic Shop, Welcome to Eltingville

[Juu-kuchi]

But Superman always keeps his cool even in battle. He'll probably be able to gauge the Hulk's powers and then, in an allusion to some writers' previous statement, throw him into the sun.

[En Sabah Nur]

But Superman always keeps his cool even in battle. He'll probably be able to gauge the Hulk's powers and then, in an allusion to some writers' previous statement, throw him into the sun.The Hulk will just jump out of it, find Superman,and kill him.

[Dr. Faust]

Killed Carnage by ripping him in two.
Did Hulk do that? Well done to whoever did it

[Juu-kuchi]

The Hulk will just jump out of it, find Superman,and kill him. Now that just seems to be grasping at straws.

We all know however Batman can beat the Hulk... provided Batman was a super ****** and developed Super AIDs and gave it to the Hulk.

[Dr. Faust]

Now that just seems to be grasping at straws.

We all know however Batman can beat the Hulk... provided Batman was a super ****** and developed Super AIDs and gave it to the Hulk.
Comics character grow differently from one writer pattern to another writers pattern, they can make Batman powerful enough to beat Hulk or Kazar powerful enough to beat Superman. Nothing too arguable.

[Robin2099]

I think the biggest problem in these threads is that whoever you prefer will basically win in your eyes. If you are more of a Marvel fan, you'll pick Hulk. If you like DC you'll pick Supes.

It reminds me of a letter a fan wrote calling out Chuck Dixon's comment that Batman would cream The Punisher's clock in unarmed combat. And all he did was rant on about how Frank was a Ninjitsu master, etc etc. So most of the time vs questions never solve anything especially since it's all up to the writer to decide.

[Aizen]

I think the biggest problem in these threads is that whoever you prefer will basically win in your eyes. If you are more of a Marvel fan, you'll pick Hulk. If you like DC you'll pick Supes.

It reminds me of a letter a fan wrote calling out Chuck Dixon's comment that Batman would cream The Punisher's clock in unarmed combat. And all he did was rant on about how Frank was a Ninjitsu master, etc etc. So most of the time vs questions never solve anything especially since it's all up to the writer to decide.
Hey, hey, hey! I am a DC fan and like it way more than Marvel, but I believe Hulk will win...

The Hulk will just jump out of it, find Superman,and kill him.
He can jump out of the sun?!

Killed Carnage by ripping him in two. Went toe to toe with the Collective and Ultron. Defeated Galactus' Herald Terrax The Tamer with ease, actually broke his axe.
Superman can also do these things...but breaking Terrax's axe?! Isn't his axe strong enough to chop planets in two?!
And Sentry beating him with ease?!:eek:

[En Sabah Nur]

Hey, hey, hey! I am a DC fan and like it way more than Marvel, but I believe Hulk will win...


He can jump out of the sun?! He can survive a reentry to a planet freefalling, he can swim in magma, i guessing he can survive the sun as well.


Superman can also do these things...but breaking Terrax's axe?! Isn't his axe strong enough to chop planets in two?!
And Sentry beating him with ease?!Yes he did, grabbed it out of Terrax's hands and snapped it like a twig ( at the time he was only using his most minimal power).

[Aizen]

He can survive a reentry to a planet freefalling, he can swim in magma, i guessing he can survive the sun as well.


Yes he did, grabbed it out of Terrax's hands and snapped it like a twig ( at the time he was only using his most minimal power).
No way he can survive the sun...but hey, its not like Superman can take him there.
Isn't this a contradiction? He can't stop a helicarrier...but can uh break his axe like nothing?

[En Sabah Nur]

No way he can survive the sun...but hey, its not like Superman can take him there.
Isn't this a contradiction? He can't stop a helicarrier...but can uh break his axe like nothing?He wasn't trying to stop it, he was trying to avoid collateral damage to the buildings as per Ms. Marvel's instructions. He could have blew it up, knoxked it out of his way anything, but he wanted to catch it mid air.

[Aizen]

He wasn't trying to stop it, he was trying to avoid collateral damage to the buildings as per Ms. Marvel's instructions. He could have blew it up, knoxked it out of his way anything, but he wanted to catch it mid air.
Oh. Well can Sentry beat the Silver Surfer seeing as how easily he beat someone who can chop planets in half?

[En Sabah Nur]

Oh. Well can Sentry beat the Silver Surfer seeing as how easily he beat someone who can chop planets in half?Silver Surfer is the strongest (after The Fallen One) of Galactus' Heralds, he can beat Terrax as well. Not all Heralds are created equal.

[Aizen]

Silver Surfer is the strongest (after The Fallen One) of Galactus' Heralds, he can beat Terrax as well. Not all Heralds are created equal.
Oh okay. But then again, seeing how EASILY Terrax was beaten... i doubt the Surfer could beat Terrax like Sentry did.

[Reed Richards]

Oh okay. But then again, seeing how EASILY Terrax was beaten... i doubt the Surfer could beat Terrax like Sentry did.

Norrin has beaten Terrax before.

[Aizen]

Norrin has beaten Terrax before.
As easily as Terrax?

[En Sabah Nur]

As easily as Terrax?As of now, Silver Surfer can beat him very easily as well.

[Dr. Faust]

This is a Superman vs Hulk thread, not SS vs Sentry or something else

[Wounded_Dragon]

He can survive a reentry to a planet freefalling, he can swim in magma, i guessing he can survive the sun as well.


He may survive the sun, but I'm not sure how you'd expect him to get *out* of the sun.

[En Sabah Nur]

He may survive the sun, but I'm not sure how you'd expect him to get *out* of the sun.If he can control his freefall from space to a planet, he can mange anything.

[Wounded_Dragon]

If he can control his freefall from space to a planet, he can mange anything.

That makes no sense. Freefalling from space to a planet is easy, gravity will pull him down, he just has to survive the fall. Trying to escape from the sun's immense gravity with no apparent propulsive power is another story.

[En Sabah Nur]

That makes no sense. Freefalling from space to a planet is easy, gravity will pull him down, he just has to survive the fall. Trying to escape from the sun's immense gravity with no apparent propulsive power is another story.He has to survive not just the fall, but the atmospheric heat from reentry. Which he does.

[Deadman]

superman would win.

[Wounded_Dragon]

He has to survive not just the fall, but the atmospheric heat from reentry. Which he does.

I'm not talking about heat, I'm talking about gravity.

You keep talking about the Hulk's power but his repertoire is very limited. I'm not seeing him escaping the sun. He has no anti-gravity propulsive power.

[En Sabah Nur]

I'm not talking about heat, I'm talking about gravity.

You keep talking about the Hulk's power but his repertoire is very limited. I'm not seeing him escaping the sun. He has no anti-gravity propulsive power.The sun has a very dense core, he will just push away from it and escape the gravitational pull of the sun. The has enough strength for that.

[Dr. Faust]

The Hulk is arrested, so I sum Supe will win in WWH with a hard time

[En Sabah Nur]

The Hulk is arrested, so I sum Supe will win in WWH with a hard timeMind rephrasing that? I have no idea what you just said.:sweat:

[bishospidey]

hey hulk can crush super man if he wanted to

[Minawolverine]

Hulk!!


Cause Hulk Is Biggest And The Powerful Hero


Not Alot From Wolverine

[Dr. Faust]

Hulk never had a chance against him, and never will be able to make Superman break a sweat

[warnerbroman]

Hulk never had a chance against him, and never will be able to make Superman break a sweathulk vs bizzaro would be more interesting


also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hulk_vs_Superman.jpghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hulk_vs_Superman.jpg

[Blackstar]

The debate rages on, but it's not going anywhere. Fans of Big Blue are always going to pick Superman as the winner, while the fans of Mean Green will say Hulk without a seconds' hesitation.

Who would win in a bout between the 2 really depends on who's comic the fight takes place in and which writer is penning the story. If it's a DC comic, then obviously Supes isn't going to lose to the Hulk. While Hulk will always emerge victorious in his comic universe.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

The debate rages on, but it's not going anywhere. Fans of Big Blue are always going to pick Superman as the winner, while the fans of Mean Green will say Hulk without a seconds' hesitation.

Who would win in a bout between the 2 really depends on who's comic the fight takes place in and which writer is penning the story. If it's a DC comic, then obviously Supes isn't going to lose to the Hulk. While Hulk will always emerge victorious in his comic universe.

Reminds me of this thread I made a while back. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=197437)

Honestly it all depends on their state of mind. If Hulk is destroy Metropolis or even a random city then Superman would beat him to a pulp, to be honest.

[warnerbroman]

Reminds me of this thread I made a while back. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=197437)

Honestly it all depends on their state of mind. If Hulk is destroy Metropolis or even a random city then Superman would beat him to a pulp, to be honest.heck even if he touches lois he will get beaten

[symbiote]

It would be a tough call but as some people are saying the madder Hulk gets the stronger he becomes. If we are dealing with the WWH version he would probably be smart enough to bring some Kryptonite with him & finish off Supes.

[Blackstar]

It would be a tough call but as some people are saying the madder Hulk gets the stronger he becomes. If we are dealing with the WWH version he would probably be smart enough to bring some Kryptonite with him & finish off Supes.

It amazes me how in these Superman vs (fill in the blank) scenarios how people always think "all so-and-so has to do is whip out some kryptonite and it's all over!" If Hulk was in a blind rage, he wouldn't be thinking rationally enough to use kryptonite against Supes (of course, as previously stated, that depends on which version of the Hulk were talking about here. However, if Superman knew about the kryptonite in advance, he could prepare for it. He could wear a protective lead suit and then so much for the threat of kryptonite.

Again, it really depends on who's comic it is and who is penning the scenario. If it's a DC Superman comic, there's no chance in Helvetica that Supes would lose to the Hulk. If it's a Marvel Hulk comic, then Hulk will most assuredly emerge victorious.

[warnerbroman]

It amazes me how in these Superman vs (fill in the blank) scenarios how people always think "all so-and-so has to do is whip out some kryptonite and it's all over!" If Hulk was in a blind rage, he wouldn't be thinking rationally enough to use kryptonite against Supes (of course, as previously stated, that depends on which version of the Hulk were talking about here. However, if Superman knew about the kryptonite in advance, he could prepare for it. He could wear a protective lead suit and then so much for the threat of kryptonite.

Again, it really depends on who's comic it is and who is penning the scenario. If it's a DC Superman comic, there's no chance in Helvetica that Supes would lose to the Hulk. If it's a Marvel Hulk comic, then Hulk will most assuredly emerge victorious.it did not work for the batman supes just blew the stone away

[En Sabah Nur]

It amazes me how in these Superman vs (fill in the blank) scenarios how people always think "all so-and-so has to do is whip out some kryptonite and it's all over!" If Hulk was in a blind rage, he wouldn't be thinking rationally enough to use kryptonite against Supes (of course, as previously stated, that depends on which version of the Hulk were talking about here. However, if Superman knew about the kryptonite in advance, he could prepare for it. He could wear a protective lead suit and then so much for the threat of kryptonite.
Once again, The WWH Hulk was full or rage and was very intelligent as well. I can't stand the people saying Hulk is dumb when he is angry. Read World War Hulk then talk. He is a World Breaker. He is the strongest one there is.

[Silverstar]

Once again, The WWH Hulk was full or rage and was very intelligent as well. I can't stand the people saying Hulk is dumb when he is angry. Read World War Hulk then talk. He is a World Breaker. He is the strongest one there is.

Well, Blackstar did say that it depended on which Hulk it was. Re-read his post. He never once called Hulk dumb, just angry.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Why would they fight, though? Seems to me they'd rather go get wasted or something and complain about their wives/girlfriends/whathaveyou. :p

[En Sabah Nur]

Well, Blackstar did say that it depended on which Hulk it was. Re-read his post. He never once called Hulk dumb, just angry.
I did read the post:
"if Hulk was in a blind rage, he wouldn't be thinking rationally enough"
That sounds a lot like dumb to me. Yet he was very smart and full of rage at the same time when he broke Dr. Strange's hands.

[Silverstar]

^But he also said,

of course, as previously stated, that depends on which version of the Hulk were talking about here.

If his previous theory doesn't apply to World War Hulk, then he wasn't insinuating any such thing about him, therefore there's no need for you to take offense.

[Blackstar]

Dude, chill. I wasn't calling Hulk dumb. Just saying that most people don't think rationally when they're in a rage. That's all that I meant, nothing more. I don't know anything about WW Hulk, as I haven't read a Marvel comic in years. My post was mostly in response to symbiote's kryptonite comment. Please calm down.

A lot of haters like to claim that Superman is a knuckle dragging Neanderthal as well, which is also far from correct.

Anyways, to answer the question of who would win, I stand by my last statement, and since I'm too lazy to re-type, I'm just going to copy it here:

Again, it really depends on who's comic it is and who is penning the scenario. If it's a DC Superman comic, there's no chance in Helvetica that Supes would lose to the Hulk. If it's a Marvel Hulk comic, then Hulk will most assuredly emerge victorious.