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Memphis Bleek
02-20-2002, 09:18 PM
Who watches? PI is excellent show!

Sheamon
02-20-2002, 09:26 PM
The name of that show cracks me up.

Politically incorrect!? If a liberal surrounding himself with 4 other liberals spending an hour praising communism and talking about how abortion is the savior of this country is 'politically incorrect' then I guess the editing on Outlaw Star can be considered politically incorrect as well. Bill Maher's a pompous ass who wouldn't know something sensible if it slapped him in the face.

Zorakfan
02-20-2002, 09:32 PM
Yeah, I can't stand Bill. It's hardly politically incorrect. Put me in charge of the show, THEN you'll see politically incorrect.

Leaping Larry Jojo
02-20-2002, 09:43 PM
It's okay. It's really not much different than The View, so I don't really watch it. Just a couple of guys spouting opinions. If he ever pissed you off with his opinions, he must be doing something right.

Jedi Knight
02-20-2002, 10:01 PM
Oh, I love this show. I used to watch Leno all the time, but ever since I started watching this show, I've been hooked. I always pull myself away from Leno after his monologue so I can watch Maher. I usually tune in 'cause I generally agree with his views, but whenever he's got good guests (comedians), it's always a riot.

Great show, I hope they don't fire him!

RogueMartian
02-20-2002, 10:51 PM
I love Bill Maher, he's a great comedian. I used to watch Politically Incorrect many a year ago, but I don't anymore. Its got a commercial break every two minutes so I always end up changing the channel if i watch it at all. That's okay, I like Maher's stand up routine better anyway.

Trent Lane
02-21-2002, 03:27 PM
I think pompous ass was a good description, not dead on, but close. I can't stand him. It's his way or no way- even when he's wrong... and his comments after 9-11 didn't help his cause in my eyes either. My advice- watch something else or just turn off the TV and go to bed. You'll come out more knowledgable either way...

Calhoun07
02-21-2002, 04:29 PM
I would watch it if my ABC affiliate actually would air it when they are supposed to rather than pushing it back hours on end for reruns of Seinfeld and Roseanne and whatever else. I hardly ever get to see it, and if I do, it's not good, cuz I am being seriously REM deprived.

Calhoun07
02-21-2002, 04:31 PM
I can't stand him. It's his way or no way- even when he's wrong... and his comments after 9-11 didn't help his cause in my eyes either.

And please nobody start a flame war over this, but I think his comments after 9-11 were close to the truth, which is one reason they offended and hurt so much. The truth always does.

Memphis Bleek
02-21-2002, 05:21 PM
I think people dislike Bill Maher because he speaks the truth. I'm a Libertian and I don't praise communism or abort. I'm a pro choice person. Shaemon, I have a question for you. What the different between a corrupt Democratic and Communism? All Bill has every said is we (the United States) are a wasteful country and we don't want to win the war. We just want to do enough to make us feel good. Bill's panel for the show usually include two women and two men. There is usually one Democratic and one Republican person on the show every night. Shaemon, do you really think that ABC would let a another REAL libertian other than Bill on the show?

The Polisher
02-21-2002, 05:34 PM
Well, I've never seen this show. I've heard about it, but I've never watched it. I don't even know what time and what channel it's on. Could anyone tell me?

Leaping Larry Jojo
02-21-2002, 07:34 PM
It's midnight or so, should be ABC.

It's easy to call him a pompous ass and "stupid" because he's a TV personality. But the truth is, he's no different from any one of us. Put me there, and I'm sure my opinions will piss some of you off, and will lead to you throwing garbage at your TV whenever I'm on. ;) Bill's show is designed to be a mouthpiece for opinions, right or wrong. Some opinions are dead on, some are ill-informed. But that's why he's got a panel so you can get a bunch of different viewpoints. You don't have to agree with him, and perhaps the show doesn't want you to. It's supposed to stimulate conversation (and make fools out of Hollywood stars they get on their show every night, leading to ratings.)

RogueMartian
02-21-2002, 07:52 PM
well said.

Memphis Bleek
02-21-2002, 09:07 PM
it comes on between 1:05 am to 1:15 am. I tape an episode every night and watch it the next day.

Trent Lane
02-21-2002, 10:51 PM
Still, like I said before, you're on his side or you don't exsist. I, if you couldn't tell, am very conservative, big time Republican here :p But, I know some Democrats who find him even more annoying than I do, so go figure. Maybe because he's just a mouth with a body connected to it... just my opinion, folks...

Captain Caps
02-22-2002, 09:17 PM
I think that Bill Maher is an alright comedian. He was decent in "D.C Cab". His stand-up act is okay.

When it comes to his political opinions:

I don't give much of a damn about them. I mean, I may not agree with them, but he has a right to say them, and I have a right to ignore him.

As he acts on his rights, I act on my rights.

P.S,

calhoun, I politely say "I disagree with you", and since I don't want to start a flame war, that's all I'll say.

Sincerely,

John "Captain Caps" Kilduff

Memphis Bleek
02-22-2002, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Trent Lane
Still, like I said before, you're on his side or you don't exsist. I, if you couldn't tell, am very conservative, big time Republican here :p But, I know some Democrats who find him even more annoying than I do, so go figure. Maybe because he's just a mouth with a body connected to it... just my opinion, folks...

What the difference between Democrats and Republicans these days?

Sheamon
02-22-2002, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Memphis Bleek


What the difference between Democrats and Republicans these days?

Lets see... Democrats want higher taxes, unrestricted abortions, more of a welfare/communist state, 'free' national health care for all (which actually would cripple the country's economy since it will be so damn expensive), etc... Republicans want reasonable taxes, a country where you're not led cradle to grave by the government, and a life where you make all your own decisions, not the government. ...Except when it comes to religon of course, they want to expand Protestantism as much as possible :p

Memphis Bleek
02-22-2002, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Sheamon


Lets see... Democrats want higher taxes, unrestricted abortions, more of a welfare/communist state, 'free' national health care for all (which actually would cripple the country's economy since it will be so damn expensive), etc... Republicans want reasonable taxes, a country where you're not led cradle to grave by the government, and a life where you make all your own decisions, not the government. ...Except when it comes to religon of course, they want to expand Protestantism as much as possible :p

Reasonable taxes for the rich meaning little or no tax for the rich. Both parties are own by lobbyists. Libertians will soon be own by lobbyists if we ever want to win an election.

Trent Lane
02-22-2002, 11:10 PM
I say screw it all and vote for Steve Forbes- he wants to get rid of the overly abused services, or handouts, such as food stamps, WICs, etc., get rid of the IRS (who can complain with that), and restructure the taxation systems... and he's a Republican. Unfortunately, he's trying to do that here in the US, so he'll never become President because his ideas would ruin half the population as far as getting handouts from the government...

Okay, that rant over, you all can get back to Mr. Mahr now....

Calhoun07
02-22-2002, 11:35 PM
Sound words, Trent. Since political discussions on the boards rarely end up well, it would be best to stay on topic here.

Karkull
02-22-2002, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Calhoun07
And please nobody start a flame war over this, but I think his comments after 9-11 were close to the truth, which is one reason they offended and hurt so much. The truth always does.

As much as some people hate to admit it he was right...which is what probably made them so mad at hearing it.

The Game
02-23-2002, 12:31 AM
I like it. For me, it's just a matter of staying up late enough to watch. :eek:

Memphis Bleek
02-23-2002, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Karkull


As much as some people hate to admit it he was right...which is what probably made them so mad at hearing it.

What did Bill say? I miss that episode.

ccffan01
02-23-2002, 08:05 PM
I just read that there not renewing Bill Mahers contract in case you didnt know.

Memphis Bleek
02-23-2002, 08:17 PM
Disney does want to offend people anymore.

Trent Lane
02-24-2002, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by ccffan01
I just read that there not renewing Bill Mahers contract in case you didnt know.

Well, maybe they decided The Fox and the Hound II was a better way to spend their money... and for once, Disney would be right :p

Calhoun07
02-24-2002, 10:35 AM
Is there any possibilty that Politically Incorrect could be picked up by another network? I sure would like to see it on another network, at an earlier time. Maybe Fox?

The Mad Hatter
02-24-2002, 01:30 PM
Considering how rabidly conservative Rupert Murdoch is, and how much Fox News slammed Maher after his comment, I kinda doubt it.

ZorBrak
02-26-2002, 10:42 PM
I'm not trying to start a flame war or insult anyone (anyone specifically on this board anyway) but I'm quite conservative and here to tell you that that show is the most Politically Correct show on earth. I just get a kick at how the rally up 4 other liberals and 1 conservative so they can gang up and bash the crap out of him or her.THE SHOW SHOULD BE CALLED 4 COMMUNISTS AND A CONSERVATIVE. Bill Maher is a jack ass and a sad pathetic little man who bows down to the 'higher" power of extreme political correctness and he will do anything for a laugh as long as it doesn't insult anyone but conservatives and he seems to enjoy exargerating many of our beliefs. If you wanna see a PI show put me in charge then you will see just how "PI'' I can be, I can't stand or agree with many liberal views, not to say that I don't have some, but I'm also disgusted at how stupid America's population has become, people who claim to have their own opinion are only copying MTV's obviously liberal geust's messages. MTV is brainwashing my peers (and so are English classes with their liberal message filled reading material) and its funny because communists also brainwashed children at an early age and through adolesence. that's my opinion but at least I have one and don't follow mindless hollywood liberals just because I like their stuff.

Trent Lane
02-26-2002, 11:55 PM
Here, here Zorbrak!!! Fellow Charlottean sounding off!!! :p
On the serious side, tho, Zorbrak's got a point, and this'll be the final political thing I'll conect to this (sorry!)- they do find one guy (or girl) to pick on every night because of that one person's more conservative views. Politically Incorrect should be a little more balanced than it is... and Hatter was right- Fox is WAYYYYY to conservative for PI. And besides, the shows they've got on there now are the best news shows around as it is. It's the only place I pay attention to anyway...

RockItShipper
02-27-2002, 02:17 PM
If I remember right, Maher said the description of the attackers as cowardly wasn't quite on-the-mark.

Certainly the organizers sending grunts to blow up a building full of innocent people were cowardly. But Maher considered the grunts themselves to indeed committing a horrific act- but not a cowardly one. Bravery isn't the sole possession of the good in the world.

But that's what we get in "war-time".... Questioning makes you look suspicious yourself. :mad:

ZorBrak
02-27-2002, 02:53 PM
knowingly participating in murdering innocent civilians is always cowardly and even more so becuase they had no reason to.

DR. BELCH
02-27-2002, 03:26 PM
Sheamon:
Democrats want higher taxes, unrestricted abortions, more of a welfare/communist state, 'free' national health care for all (which actually would cripple the country's economy since it will be so damn expensive), etc... Republicans want reasonable taxes, a country where you're not led cradle to grave by the government, and a life where you make all your own decisions, not the government. ...Except when it comes to religon of course, they want to expand Protestantism as much as possible.
Add the TV ratings to the Dem. side of the equation--I have yet to hear a prominent Republican speak out glowingly in favor of those little monstrosities!--and you're pretty spot-on.
Admittedly I've heard precious little of Maher, but people tell me he's a horse's butt, and I'm inclined to not bother losing sleep over him if that's the case. Bin Laden is really the coward here, preaching from a bully pulpit and perverting the minds of innocent youths, inflaming them to do such an act.
I consider the attackers more mindless dupes than anything, and when someone tells me we should be fervent and burning in our belief in God, things like this come to mind. Aren't jihads, murders, and atrocities committed by those who are hot for God? I'm glad I'm a lukewarm cynical believer. I'll go to church, I'll acknowledge Jesus and the Cross, but I won't die for a Word that's so full of one-eighties and rhetoric that I can't understand it.
Really, if the attackers had been pressured--"Psst. Habib--if Osama believes so hotly in what he preaches, why isn't he in that cockpit holding a map to New York, huh?"--maybe they would have chickened out and started questioning more...and they and four thousand others would still be alive. They weren't cowards in their actions, but in their thinking...weak-minded and too ready to adapt the rantings of a madman as Gospel....

Ruffian
02-27-2002, 08:49 PM
I watch it when I happen to surf by it late night. :p It's a good show overall. I like Bill Maher and I think he's a good comedian. Most of the issues he raise and comments about I would agree with. Sometimes his guests get a really rowdy, and start going in circles in debates. That's where it annoys me a bit.

Memphis Bleek
02-27-2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by ZorBrak
I'm not trying to start a flame war or insult anyone (anyone specifically on this board anyway) but I'm quite conservative and here to tell you that that show is the most Politically Correct show on earth. I just get a kick at how the rally up 4 other liberals and 1 conservative so they can gang up and bash the crap out of him or her.THE SHOW SHOULD BE CALLED 4 COMMUNISTS AND A CONSERVATIVE. Bill Maher is a jack ass and a sad pathetic little man who bows down to the 'higher" power of extreme political correctness and he will do anything for a laugh as long as it doesn't insult anyone but conservatives and he seems to enjoy exargerating many of our beliefs. If you wanna see a PI show put me in charge then you will see just how "PI'' I can be, I can't stand or agree with many liberal views, not to say that I don't have some, but I'm also disgusted at how stupid America's population has become, people who claim to have their own opinion are only copying MTV's obviously liberal geust's messages. MTV is brainwashing my peers (and so are English classes with their liberal message filled reading material) and its funny because communists also brainwashed children at an early age and through adolesence. that's my opinion but at least I have one and don't follow mindless hollywood liberals just because I like their stuff.

All liberals are communists. If that your opinion I disagree. I became a libertian because I was tired of republicans saying that they were going help the urban/inner city while cutting vital social programs while the rich get a tax cut. Some people in my community don't even have healthcare. The democrats are no better. Democrats come to communities with blacks like myself, hispanics, and other minorities groups and tell the people what they want to hear. The minorities clap and follow the democrats like sheep. The democrats care about us only when they need our votes. I don't want to sound preachy. I want a country where have you have choices. I don't want a country where the rich get richer and poor get poorer while the middle class is turned into a slave work force. There should be reasonable taxes for all people whether they are poor, middle class, or rich. I want an honest government without corruption. I want the lobbyists all of them out Washington D.C. I want an eduacation system that works. I want every citizen in US healthcare to have affordable healthcare. I want America to stop being so wastefulness. We waste so many resources in america, but we tell other countries conserve their resources because we lack their pretty flowers, animals, and rainforests. I want the total disarment of all the nuclear weapons of all countries including US. I want America to realize it is a part of a globe community. It not america and the rest of the world. If this make me a communist in your eyes I guess I am a communist. I talked negative about Democrats and Republicans earlier some Democrats and Republicans are good and some are corrupt. The same goes for any other political party including Libertians. I don't agree with every thing that Bill Maher say but most of things he says I do agree with. It not because I was brainwashed. I go out and get the facts and make my own decisions. Sometimes I agree with what republicans are trying do or what democrats are trying to do or what libertians are trying to do. I make informed decisons about what I believe in.

RockItShipper
02-27-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by ZorBrak
knowingly participating in murdering innocent civilians is always cowardly and even more so because they had no reason to.

Hey! How many more insults can we give to it, regardless of if they fit? I don't like pink and one of the hi-jackers lived in a pink house... Does that make their crime 'pink'?

Humans are self-protective by nature, so whether you deliberately crash a plane or rush into a collapsing building to save others.... Courage is required for both. The difference is that the latter is noble. And isn't that why we're upset by 9/11? That the worst, weakest of all mankind had the nerve to prove their beliefs in such a way?

DR. BELCH
02-28-2002, 10:50 AM
Courage requires, if not pure thought, a sense of conviction, which I don't think Osama's brainwashed toy soldiers possessed. They were merely repeating/embracing an insane mantra drilled into them since they were old enough to stand up and stop soiling themselves. True courage would've been questioning it, and possibly risking death to do so. Osama...Hitler...Stalin...at heart they were all cowards who used rhetoric and strongarm tactics to make themselves look big and brave. None of them ever walked among the impoverished people, or visited the gas chambers, or climbed in a cockpit to back up their beliefs. At this point it's degenerated into an argument of semantics.
If Maher made such an argument I would agree with him and think him intelligent. If the next night he said something I didn't agree with, I might begin to question my assessment. If four out of five times he says something I don't care for--chances are it was be partly true but greatly exaggerated to the point where it becomes absurd--then I will discount him as a fool. But like I said, I'm not generally going out of my way to watch him.
Remind me not to share my strawberry Starburst candies with Rocky, btw..... ;)

RockItShipper
02-28-2002, 01:08 PM
It's really a debate on what words mean and where each interpreter in the debate comes from....

Is loyalty to the world you were brought into when it's not valued by others brave?

Is speaking up... or even acting when you see something wrong brave? Even if it's illegal, unpopular or both?

Is it brave to live within your own social limits/traditions? Or break through them?

The answer is different for everyone, to some degree. I'm just sick of this assumption that if you have a better army and get the enemy's on drugs.... that your culture is superior. Why not business innovations and ideas in general? Is everyone that insecure?

ZorBrak
02-28-2002, 07:52 PM
I am not saying everyone who is watching is brainwashed, and I meant that the liberals whom Bill has on the show are so extreme the come off as communist, not the viewers themeselves or all liberals in general. but the intention of the show is toinfluence your political stance to a liberal view because they gang up on a conservative every episode and spend the show painting him as a bad guy. as with many of things these days, and I don't agree with everything republicans or democrats do either, I used to consider myself a republican (and pretty much still do kinda) I'm not so sure what I am now maybe a conservative liberatarian, but I'm not 18 yet so I guess I'm nuthn till then ^^, I support Bush but lately he has done some really stupid crap on the issue of 9-11 further pissing off eastern countries who were already pissed (with that axis of evil thing he said) I don't know who to point my finger at him...or cheny :p but I know that democrats take advantage of minority votes as well as do the same things republicans may do for a vote, it's just that they will do more, and go even farther, and I am strongly against most liberal views, and that I see both parties ripping people off and doing stupid things...I'm just making commentary on what I see I guess