Soul Calibur IV Talkback Thread (Spoilers)

[Tenku]

I know that's there's a thread for it but, it seems it's just talking about Vader and Yoda... so, if there's a issue with that, my B or feel free to make additions, amends, etc.

*ahem*

Confirmed:
Ivy
Taki
Mitsurugi
Raphael

Vader (PS3) *new*

Yoda (360) *new*

Maxi
Seung Mi-na
Yun-seong
Hilde *new*
Yoshimitsu
Sigfried
Sophitia
Cassandra
Astharoth
Tira
Voldo
Nightmare
Lizardman

Kilik
Xianghua
Fia Angol *new*
Scheherazade *new*
Zasalamel
Cervantes
Amy
Talim
Rock
Yoshimitsu
Shura *new*
Ashlotte *new*
Starkiller *new*
Kamikirimusi *new*
Algol Fear *new*
New screens came out, confirming Maxi, Seung Mi-na, and Yun-seong. I'm surprised that Seung's design hasn't changed much which is GOOD -- to counter some of the other women-folk designs. Gives me hope for Talim, that's for sure. Maxi looks the same, looking like Elvis [not that it's a bad thing]

Yun-seong?

What happened to the adorable red haired guy I know? He looks like a *mean* pirate now. or a roided Kaoru Kaido... :(

Thoughts?

[GWOtaku]

I'm hoping everyone from III comes back. Given the apparent polish of the game and the potentially epic events that will occur this time, the roster should be as close to a who's who of Soul Calibur as possible.

[Space Lion]

I'll be all over this game at release time. But I have to say...

Vader and Yoda are definitely welcome additions to the game. And online play = big bonus. But if there's no Lizardman (my favorite character in this entire series), then I will be most displeased.

...very displeased, indeed. :mad:

[Tenku]

Alright, three more confirmed -- Xianghua, Lizardman [YAY], and Kilik [DOUBLE YAY].

I think for the most part everyone from SC3 will return... it looks like it takes place a few years after the last game, because everyone looks slightly older. In Lizardman's case, he looks like a different creature.

[Space Lion]

Screenshots and artwork are at IGN (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/739/739576/imgs_1.html) and Gamestop (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/soulcaliburiv/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;images).

Yes, Lizardman is in, and looking very good. He's never had much of a background story, but he gets a different lizard form for each game, and I like that.

I'm still a fan of his 2P costumes from the original Soul Calibur and Soul Calibur III. But I think his Soul Calibur IV look is the best yet. I'm looking forward to seeing his second costume.

[Spike Mcdougal]

Now all of the trio is accounted for and my favorite girl (Seung) is back and not over endowed like some of the others.

[Icer]

Raphael looks sleepy

[tb4000]

As a hetero male, I can't believe I am uttering these words, but Ivy's boobs distract me too much to concentrate on the game.

[WolfieKiwi]

Clearly, I haven't been keeping up with the news. So, Kilik and Lizardman were both confirmed? Huzah! They were the two I played the most in Soul Calibur before Mina and Hwang.

...Speaking of Hwang, there's no sign of him yet. I really would like to see him confirmed.

[GWOtaku]

I think Seung had a better costume in III, but that's just my opinion. In general everybody's looking spectacular, especially Siegfried. Except Ivy, she was always the token slut of this franchise.

[Conekiller]

I may be in the minority, but I feel the extra details on almost everyone's faces breaks the suspension of disbelief for me. Practically everyone's faces except Sophitia and Maxi give me this really weird vibe.

Yun-seong looks like a reject from Tekken.

[WolfieKiwi]

Yun-seong looks like a reject from Tekken.

It must be the bandanna, because to me, he looks like Kaido from Prince of Tennis... /:

[Tenku]

Two new *female* fighters revealed:

Fia Angol (http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/03/sciv-1.jpg) -- a... you know what, I have no idea what she's wielding but she's designed by Keroro Gensou's mangaka and Scheherazade (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Scheherazade.jpg) -- a left handed rapier-est who looks like (and probably) a elf. Rival or connection to Raphael?

Is it just me or is there a lot of womenfolk, like a... almost a 1:1 ratio (maybe 2:1)? Not that I'm bothered with that.

Source: Kotaku and Wiki.

[ShadowGUN]

Scheherazade remind me of Zelda for some reason. Fia Angol look cool even though she has nipples blades.

[Beat]

And it figures, new weapons that make no sense. I keep wondering if they'd ever have someone using kali sticks or a three-pronged staff, or maybe that blade from Master of the Flying Guillotine. There's a lot of real weapons that they don't need to make them up.

[TnAdct1]

Two new *female* fighters revealed:

Fia Angol (http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/03/sciv-1.jpg) -- a... you know what, I have no idea what she's wielding but she's designed by Keroro Gensou's mangaka. All that's needed here is for her to be voiced by Mamiko Noto.

As for her personality, if this is based on the Angols from Sgt. Keroro, then I have a feeling that she's a being who is sent to destroy the Earth, with her staff being the weapon she uses to destroy it.

[jph139]

As for her personality, if this is based on the Angols from Sgt. Keroro, then I have a feeling that she's a being who is sent to destroy the Earth, with her staff being the weapon she uses to destroy it.

I was about to say "That's that stupidest idea for a SoulCalibur character I've ever heard!"

But then I remembered that Yoda would be playable.

[Spike Mcdougal]

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2175/1206519994055kx1.jpg

Zasalamel, Cervantes and everyone's favorite rapier wielding gothic lolita redhead are confirmed

[Tenku]

Oh snap, Zasa is back! Yay! Not that I like using him but still.

How many rapier-users do we need? There's 3... or 4 (can't remember if Cervantes did)

[Spike Mcdougal]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167411

Release date and details about a collector's edition

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167429

Original Soul Calibur for X Box Live later this year

[Beat]

The original has to be a hefty DL. It was a Dreamcast title on a 1Gig disc.

[Conekiller]

Damn, I don't wana buy a special edition of a game just to get the artbook >_>

[Tenku]

Oh, right after my birthday.

Also...I am a sucker for all limited editions, and...

*sigh* Sign me up.

[Space Lion]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167411

Release date and details about a collector's edition


Along with the date announcement, Namco Bandai also spilled all the details on the limited Premium edition package. Those who just have to have the nicest version possible of their games will be looking to lay down $79.99 for this tin-boxed version of the game, which will include a Soul Calibur t-shirt, a coffee table art book, and some sort of exclusive downloadable content. The Premium edition will also hit store shelves on July 29.I had a feeling the release date would be changed. It was originally set for June 24, which is less than two weeks after the release of Metal Gear Solid 4.

I had to pre-order the LE version. The artbook sealed the deal.

The 'exclusive downloadable content' likely won't be exclusive for long after the release, especially if it can affect online play. The T-shirt, well...

[Harlan_Phoenix]

I'm betting on the downloadable content being Luke Skywalker.

[Spike Mcdougal]

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3881731#post3881731

Talim, Yoshimitsu and Rock confirmed

[Beat]

Talim? I was kinda hoping she'd be ommitted, but I'm not surprised. (She's a pretty useless character and her constantly babbling about the wind is annoying.)

Yay for Yoshimistu and Rock though.

[Space Lion]

I dig the rhino head on Rock.

(character list in first post needs an update)

[Tenku]

Done (updated).

Yay, Talim~ She looks a lot younger for some reason.

[Spike Mcdougal]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/previews/21550/Exclusive_SoulCalibur_IV.html

Vader and Yoda's moves not allowed in Create a Soul



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad:

[Spike Mcdougal]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/867/867182p1.html

It's a month old but still provides some interesting info. I like the fact that Mina has improved

[ShadowGUN]

From the creator of Gantz, meet Shura (http://kotaku.com/5009069/soulcalibur-iv-ups-its-ta-quotient-again) a four swords carrying warrior with a great cleavage.

[Tenku]

From the creator of Gantz, meet Shura (http://kotaku.com/5009069/soulcalibur-iv-ups-its-ta-quotient-again) a four swords carrying warrior with a great cleavage.

...wow. I have to say, that will be distracting no matter what gender you are. D:

I'm a little miffed by the fact that there hasn't been a new male character yet. Sure, there's Kilik, Maxi, Kaidou Yun-seuong, Seiggy for us few womenfolk that play SC... but come on!

[kenjisalk]

Don't leave out the "non-T&A obsessed". I'm a d00d, and I don't want to be bombarded by a ton of slutty females with the personality of wet cardboard.

Granted, most of Soul Calibur's females are at least charming and somewhat unique (with a few exceptions), but lord, if I wanted an all-girl fighter to oggle, I'd play DoA (which I DON'T).

[ShadowGUN]

Mmm Interesting. (http://kotaku.com/391421/namco-bandai-in-shock-soul-calibur-breast-cover+up#viewcomments)
Does this mean that the american version is gonna get edited?

[GWOtaku]

Heh, who cares. I love the site comment, we're not in this for the swordplay...if you want fanservice crap, go play Dead or Alive.

Of course it is pointless, as it doesn't change what Ivy obviously is.

[Beat]

Mmm Interesting. (http://kotaku.com/391421/namco-bandai-in-shock-soul-calibur-breast-cover+up#viewcomments)
Does this mean that the american version is gonna get edited?

Everyone knows how angry fanboys get over edits.

If it is edited, I won't buy it. It's that simple.

[kenjisalk]

Everyone knows how angry fanboys get over edits.

If it is edited, I won't buy it. It's that simple.

Either this is a joke or your priorities are way outa whack.

[Beat]

Either this is a joke or your priorities are way outa whack.

The fact that they were trying to sell this game on the breast factor, then go and censor that, shows that their priorities are out of whack. If you're going to turn a somewhat respected fighting game franchise into the next Dead ort Alive, fine, but either go all the way or go home.

For the record, I never bought a DoA game for the simple reason that the "lol bewbies" stuff always seemed to take precedence over making a playable fighter. Soul Calibur seems to be going in a similar direction, but can't even make the full commitment.

[kenjisalk]

I don't see where you're getting that, since Soul Calibur is both a more technically complex and meaty fighter versus DoA's grapple/throw fest, plus all the different gameplay modes, options, and features of recent Soul Caliburs (not to mention the array of respectable and unique fighters, both male and female, and a much more thought-out fictional world), I think you're grasping at straws.

Having a few female characters who are relatively slutted out does not mean it puts an emphasis on **** over gameplay (if the game featured mostly tricked out harem with cardboard personalities and backgrounds, you would have a point, but that's simply not the case).

If so, then just about every fighting game would qualify.

[Tenku]

http://kotaku.com/5009587/new-character-for-soul-calibur-iv-ashlotte

...er, well, I've never seen this kind of design before... Loli? Eh... *tilts head* (am I seeing that there are a lot of staffed characters? Hoo boy...)

Anyway on teh boob issue, I kinda hope there is a minor fixin's to Ivy's... uhm, outfit as an alternative. It just leaves a little more to imagination. Plus, my back hurts just from looking. Yeesh...

[ShadowGUN]

A goth lolita? Well at least her breasts are normal size. Btw was she design by any manga artist? The style looks familiar.

[Tenku]

Ogure Ito of Air Gear and Tenjho Tenge fame. That actually surprises me considering some of the designs from said mangas.

More I look, the more she makes sense...

[Funkatron]

Not just gothic loli, but gothic loli robot:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2938/1211041165081no4.jpg

[Beat]

Go all the way or go home.

It's obvious that they want to turn Soul Calibur into a weapon-based DoA.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Well, I'm no longer playing Soul Calibur now.

[jph139]

Uh, guys, just to note... so far, Hilde is the only REAL new character. The rest are just Vader, Yoda, and Bonus Characters. Remember all those bonus characters from SCIII? Valeria? Luna? Chester? Greed? Miser? Just generic little add-ons that didn't have a unique fighting style, or a unique anything other than body frame or a few little do-dads.

And out of those bonus characters, as far as we know, only Amy has become a full-fledged character (ignoring all of those old characters, like Li Long, who were brought back). So most of them will probably be gone for SoulCalibur V.

But I admit, the woman-folk are becoming a tad excessive. I want some new guys who aren't little green gremlins or in space suits...

[HEATXZ]

But I admit, the woman-folk are becoming a tad excessive. I want some new guys who aren't little green gremlins or in space suits... I agree,i do like the new female but we need new male characters besides Darth Vader and Yoda

[ShadowGUN]

New screenshots (http://kotaku.com/5010659/more-soul-calibur-iv-screens-more-well-ta#viewcomments)with Ashlotte,Setsuka and Shura.

[RAINMAN]

A robot? This series has really jump the shark. I don`t even know SC anymore.:(

[Mynd Hed]

A robot? This series has really jump the shark. I don`t even know SC anymore.:(

Yeah, no kidding. I've always played Soul Calibur for its realism and the plausibility of its setting and storyline, and---

http://www.theinterpretersfriend.com/misc/humr/laugh.gif

Sorry, I just COULDN'T finish that sentence with a straight face.

[kenjisalk]

So Link and Spawn in SCII aren't jumping the shark, but robot chick is?

Does not compute.

It's a series thats main story facilitates cross-overs "from other worlds" (justifying the ever-so-popular Link appearance), yet robot chick is "out there".

Makes sense.

:sad:

[Keiichi]

A robot? This series has really jump the shark. I don`t even know SC anymore.

So you were ok with yoda and vader? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/KamenRider/12.gif

[RAINMAN]

I don`t care for yoda or vader either. I`m not a fan of SW so when I herd those 2 were gonna be in the game I was not jumping up and down. I thougth it was the dumbest idea in video game ever.

[kenjisalk]

I don`t care for yoda or vader either. I`m not a fan of SW so when I herd those 2 were gonna be in the game I was not jumping up and down. I thougth it was the dumbest idea in video game ever.

This, coming from someone who doesn't mind Smash Bros, or Link in SCII.

:p

[RAINMAN]

This, coming from someone who doesn't mind Smash Bros, or Link in SCII.

:p


Link did not stand out nor is he from outer space.

[ShadowGUN]

A new character has join the fight(oddly enough he doesn't have DD breasts): Darth Vader's "Secret Apprentice" (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/05/third-star-wars-character-joins-soul-calibur-iv-cast/#comments), Starkiller, from Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.

[Beat]

That's just as bad. So now we're getting blatant ads for other games.

[GWOtaku]

Sigh, I've had this silly realism argument before. Yes, SC's motif was escapist fantasy, that's what it was, no one denies it. It was like that ever since a knight like Siegfried and a greek warrior like Sophitia (never mind a greek woman warrior, which didn't exist) and a samurai like Mitsurugi co-existed at exactly the same time. Tell us something we don't know. Fanboys had at me for saying it before, but bringing in futuristic sci-fi does mess up what logic there was. Starships usually don't fit with magic swords. It doesn't belong, and that its only there for marketing is further proven by the presence of Vader's apprentice. Its now gone beyond playing to nostalgia to the area of sheer commercialism and product placement.

SC IV may be great, but its looking like SC III is going to be the last SC game that understood what it was.

[tb4000]

Namco's games tend to be serious on the surface but are really tongue in cheek. Look at the Tekken series and the goofy characters and extras within those games. The endings for a lot of the characters are usually humorous, or darkly humorous.

[GWOtaku]

Namco's games tend to be serious on the surface but are really tongue in cheek. Look at the Tekken series and the goofy characters and extras within those games. The endings for a lot of the characters are usually humorous, or darkly humorous.

Well, on the bright side, at least SC is still better than Dead or Alive.

At this rate though, seriously, they might as well put in Luke Skywalker and make the fantasy complete.

[jph139]

*sigh*

Vader and Yoda I can handle, but... I won't even bother spewing anger. Though I'll make a conscious effort to NOT buy Force Unleashed in my small and worthless attempt to make it backfire on them.

It won't work, but... still. :(

[ShadowGUN]

There also a video showing Starkiller in action (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19300).

[Harlan_Phoenix]

I'm cool with more Jedi, personally, I actually don't mind overabundant guest characters if they're friggin awesome.

It's the stupid girls that're there solely for sex appeal that angers me. Make them badass fighters, not eye candy for horny reclusive gamers.

[tb4000]

The way half of these chicks are dressed I don't know how the ESRB let it slide with a T rating. Ivy's costume alone is pushing it.

[Anyone00]

There also a video showing Starkiller in action (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19300).

Well when Yoda and Vader were first announced I predicted this was a big promotional stunt for the Force Unleashed and that it would include the game's main character: to no ones surprise I was right.

I demand Kyle Katarn be included as a secret character to pwn this n00b:p

[Keiichi]

The way half of these chicks are dressed I don't know how the ESRB let it slide with a T rating. Ivy's costume alone is pushing it.

If it makes it over here. On the official US webesite Ivy was redrawn and more covered up while the japanese site has her in her unaltered outfit. As for the news of SK joining in I'm going to bite my toung, but I will say I'm considering cancelling my LE preorder.

[Pepperidge]

The way half of these chicks are dressed I don't know how the ESRB let it slide with a T rating. Ivy's costume alone is pushing it.

It's really only Ivy and Sophitia who are ridiculously over the top, and even then their in-game models don't look quite as stupid as their character artwork, which I believe is going to be modified for the North American release anyway. Heck, they could've tweaked their in-game designs slightly in order to secure the T rating, which I wouldn't really mind.

The game is teetering a bit close to being an overblown mess. Right now they have enough bonus characters to make an entirely separate game! It would be kind of nice if there was a "take this game at least somewhat seriously" mode where you only play as the main SC cast, Ivy's bust size is reduced, and Sophitia wears a bra of some kind. But whatever - I'm still looking forward to it.

[ShadowGUN]

The japanese covers are out (http://kotaku.com/5014871/rip-soul-calibur-1998+2008-yoda-vader-make-sciv-cover#viewcomments). The covers give the impression that this game is a Star Wars vs Soul Calibur( a la Marvel vs Capcom) game rather than SoulCalibur IV guest starring Vader and Yoda.

[Tenku]

So, Kratos might be in the PS3version of SC4.

If true, that makes a lot more sense than Yoda/Vader/Starkiller. I can't wait for the movesets on him.

If not, there's always create-a-soul/create-a-character.

[ShadowGUN]

If that rumor is true, does that means that 360 will get Marcus Fenix from Gears of War or maybe Master Chief?

[Punisher]

This game has dropped from a must-have to a rental at best for me. I just can't get behind all these Star Wars characters-if they had just kept Darth Vader it would have been cool, but adding Yoda is jsut strange and Star Killer? Sheesh. Granted, if it turns out that there's some great fighting, a decent story that doesn't requite hours of reading text boxes, and solid online play, my opinion could change. But so far, this game is just spiraling further and further down into ridiculousness.
If that rumor is true, does that means that 360 will get Marcus Fenix from Gears of War or maybe Master Chief?Well, DOA4 already had Master Chief(ok, it wasn't him exactly, but it was a seven foot tall Spartan so close enough) and it actually made sense as to why he was in there. Though if you could play as Marcus and use a Chainsaw like a sword then that would be beyond awesome, but there's no way that's happening.

[Beat]

I guess only the odd numbered Soul Calibur's make sense. 2 had guest star syndrome, 3 made sense, and 4 has guest star syndrome again.

I blamed Todd MacFarlane for the idiocy of 2. Apparently my blame was misplaced. It's Namco.

[Mikintosh]

Anyone who maligns Soul Calibur II: The Legend of Zelda will feel my wrath.

And yeah, having the Star Wars have such prominence on the cover is lame, but I don't see how it makes the game itself any worse than it would have been otherwise. You can just imagine the characters are not there if that'll help you.

[ShadowGUN]

PS3 owners, prepare to get rid of some space on your HDD. About 8.5GB of disk space to be exact. (http://kotaku.com/5021241/rumor-soulcalibur-iv-requires-xbox-360-hdd-needs-85gb-of-disk-space-on-ps3#viewcomments)

2GB of game save data? Why would a fighting game need some much space?

[TnAdct1]

2GB of game save data? Why would a fighting game need some much space? It probably has something to do with the game's character creation tool.

(questioning if I should change my mind, and get the Xbox 360 version of SC4 instead of planning to get the PS3 version)

[Spike Mcdougal]

http://kotaku.com/5020691/the-soulcalibur-iv-ladies-in-action

They changed Seung's voice again:( I liked how she sounded in 3

[AlgeaX]

I have to ask. Do they plan on giving any kind of in-story explanation for why Yoda and Vader are wondering around Renaissance Eurasia?

[Beat]

I have to ask. Do they plan on giving any kind of in-story explanation for why Yoda and Vader are wondering around Renaissance Eurasia?

Probably the same reason they gave for Spawn, Heihachi, and Link.

"...Meteors did it."

[tb4000]

Probably the same reason they gave for Spawn, Heihachi, and Link.

"...Meteors did it."


To quote Family Guy, "You don't like it? Go complain on the internet."

[Beat]

To quote Family Guy, "You don't like it? Go complain on the internet."

"LOL internet nerd."

It's all a big ad in the end, the same way SCII was an ad for other franchises (Wind Waker anyone) this is a big ad for Force Unleashed.

[kenjisalk]

"LOL internet nerd."

It's all a big ad in the end, the same way SCII was an ad for other franchises (Wind Waker anyone) this is a big ad for Force Unleashed.

I guess SCII was an ad for Tekken and Spawn comics as well?

It's a gimick that brings in the fanboys who won't buy anything without Link or some crap slapped in (see SCIII, and how it did sales wise compared to II).

[Beat]

The fact that SCIII was only on PS2 and not on Gamecube or Xbox had nothing to do with it?

[TacoHunter]

I guess SCII was an ad for Tekken and Spawn comics as well?

There actually was a Spawn game released by Namco a few months after SC2, and Namco always likes to promote Tekken, so go fig.

[kenjisalk]

lol, I don't even remember a last-gen Spawn game. I remember the Todd Macfarlane medieval one, but nothing with Spawn in it.

Not that I'm surprised, since obviously it gets units moving. But it isn't like the SC series is shallow outside of that, so it doesn't bother me personally.

[Classic Speedy]

Soul Calibur III was a Greatest Hits title, so it couldn't have sold -too- badly without Link or another "celebrity" character. Maybe not up to SCII's standards, but like Beat said, it also wasn't on three major consoles that time.

[Zero Kagayaki]

I can't wait for this game.. this is my favorite fighting game ever

[Tenku]

*sigh* I don't know about you guys, but I'm a wee bit tired of uh... guest artists and the femmes. Not exactly new characters, I think, but probably unlock bonuses. That's probably just me. It's not exactly a complaint but... ok, it is. :sweat:

And yet another; her name is Kamikirimusi (http://kotaku.com/5022734/soulcalibur-iv-adds-one-more-female-fighter)-- who wields a non-spiked tetsubo (something that's almost always used by a male...) and the guest is Hirokazu Hisayuki)

...poor girl, hasn't she heard of toenail clippers? Those things are scary...

[Punisher]

Sheesh...Hwang is most likely not going to be in and instead we keep getting these insanely weird girls whose only purpose thus far seems to be showing skin? Aye aye aye...between all the guests and new characters it'll be hard to identify this as a Soul Calibur game.

Oh, and Dead or Alive seriously has nothing on this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEOcSTerOc).

[Tenku]

Oh, and Dead or Alive seriously has nothing on this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEOcSTerOc).

... dear lord. I... wasn't even concentrating on that and it still distracted me.

[Punisher]

... dear lord. I... wasn't even concentrating on that and it still distracted me.Say what? I was talking about how Misturugi was ko'd and was still standing up. What were YOU looking at?:p

[Tenku]

Say what? I was talking about how Misturugi was ko'd and was still standing up. What were YOU looking at?:p

Well, you said Dead or Alive. :p

[ShadowGUN]

Meet Algol. (http://kotaku.com/5024296/soul-calibur-iv-+-so-who-is-algol-anyway#viewcomments)

http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/07/scivalgol.jpg

THE STRONGEST CHARACTER EVER IN THE SOUL CALIBUR SERIES !!!!!!!

In other words he cheap. Very cheap. He looks pretty bad ass thought.

[GWOtaku]

Dual Wielding Soul Edge and Soul Calibur? That is cheap.

It is, I'll grant, better than another generic demon.

[Beat]

I'm half surprised the last boss is male. [/rimshot]

[kenjisalk]

The only fighting game franchise that I can think of who has female final bosses is Guilty Gear.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Dual Wielding Soul Edge and Soul Calibur? That is cheap.

Cheap, or awesome?

[WolfieKiwi]

Meet Algol. (http://kotaku.com/5024296/soul-calibur-iv-+-so-who-is-algol-anyway#viewcomments)

THE STRONGEST CHARACTER EVER IN THE SOUL CALIBUR SERIES !!!!!!!

In other words he cheap. Very cheap. He looks pretty bad ass thought.

Wait, does this mean no more Inferno? Well...alright then. First Hwang and now this. =/

So, Algol huh? He definitely sounds cheap from his description...like the sort of Gary Stu you want to kick their face in.

[Pepperidge]

Wait, does this mean no more Inferno?

Umm, the current Nightmare is Inferno. I'm more concerned about not seeing Olcadan come back!

[Mynd Hed]

Nuts to Inferno AND Olcadan, I want my Edge Master back.

[Spike Mcdougal]

http://www.caliburforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=33324

A couple of gameplay videos from E3


http://kotaku.com/5020691/the-soulcalibur-iv-ladies-in-action

They changed Seung's voice again:( I liked how she sounded in 3

I'd like to withdraw this statement, it's still the same voice actor but it sounds like she's been pitched differently this time which still sucks because it makes her screams when she gets hit and defeated hard to listen too. Hopefully when she speaks in the cutscenes she sounds the same

[Punisher]

http://www.caliburforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=33324

A couple of gameplay videos from E3Were they seriously fighting on a merry-go-round in that first video? Otherwise, the game looks and sounds pretty good. Not digging the new Astaroth design, but I never played as him anyways.

[ShadowGUN]

Well, well it appear that Vader is coming to 360 version and Yoda to PS3 version as DLC. (http://www.gamersreports.com/news/8653/vader-coming-to-360-soul-calibur-iv-as-download-screens/)
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/07/yodandd-sciv490.jpg (http://www.gamersreports.com/news/8653/vader-coming-to-360-soul-calibur-iv-as-download-screens/)

Kind of defeat the purpose of promoting both versions with different content doesn't it.

Also 1up gives the game an A. (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3168981) Not bad.

[River26]

Do you guys know who voices who? Well, we already know that Wendee Lee does Seung Mina.

[ShadowGUN]

Do you guys know who voices who? Well, we already know that Wendee Lee does Seung Mina.

You can check the game Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Calibur_4) and click on the characters links to see their current VA.

[Punisher]

Everyone knew that Namco was going to do that anyways with their previous track record(Beautiful Katamari and Ace Combat 6)but they're still a bunch of whores. Making you pay to unlock stuff already on the disc. Sheesh. Could've at least waited a few months before revealing it at least.

[River26]

So, for those that got their copy. Did you guys perform that Critical Finisher :D?

[MegaJ]

I kinda dislike the fact there's only one new canon character. :/

[kenjisalk]

It's forgivable, though, what with the more complex character creation, and all the bonus characters.

Sometimes adding a ton of new canon characters just boggs the whole series down.

[Mynd Hed]

Yeah, I personally prefer fighters with a relatively small, superbly balanced character roster than one that succumbs to character bloat and inevitably has a bunch of completely useless and/or redundant characters. I kind of felt like SCIII's roster was starting to get a tad bloated, to be honest.

[The Tyrant]

It's forgivable, though, what with the more complex character creation, and all the bonus characters.

Sometimes adding a ton of new canon characters just boggs the whole series down.

I agree. The character creation proccess and cool new manga characters is easily worth it for me.

[Mynd Hed]

Well, since the game is (officially) out now I suppose we can remove the "speculation" bit from the thread title.

Picked up this game today. I like that it's pretty quick and easy to unlock the full roster. Also the 360 version tends to give you achievements for breathing.

So, umm... what the heck is a Style Level, and what does raising it get me? 'Cause that's another thing I seem to be doing without trying.

[Undrave]

Aww man... I'd get a 360 just for that game! None of my friends have one and even if they did they're not quite big fans of the serie sadly ><

[Master Toon]

I kinda dislike the fact there's only one new canon character. :/


It's forgivable, though, what with the more complex character creation, and all the bonus characters.

Sometimes adding a ton of new canon characters just boggs the whole series down.

I know what you guys mean by canon characters but according to the game's storyline, is there really such a thing?

[Mikintosh]

Why the hell is there no rumble in the 360 version? I'm playing it now, and it feels so...lifeless without it.

[Punisher]

So I picked up the game today before work and just now got around to playing. First thing I did(besides get an achievement for simply turning on the game, which was weird but nice) was play through Yoda's story mode and I gotta say, he's pretty fun to use. I went up two style levels, which I have no idea what the hell that means, and unlocked two characters.

The announcer's voice is annoying as hell. Also, when I was playing Algol, it looked like he pulled a chair out of nowhere and sat on it in the middle of the match! If it wasn't a chair, what the hell was it? Besides those two things though, the game is pretty sweet so far. Looks fantastic. Though as far as it being better than Dead Or Alive 4, I doubt it. I'll have to play it some more before I make that call.

[Mynd Hed]

The announcer's voice is annoying as hell.

The Soul Calibur announcer is always hilariously bad. I love it.

[Punisher]

Ok, a few more thoughts now that I've played the game for several hours and just now took a break. Finding matches online can sometimes be frustratingly difficult. The quick match option is garbage, almost every time I click it I get "unable to join session" which I've encountered in other fighting games before, but I would get that message about ten times in a row before actually getting into a match. I've found searching for a custom match is much, much quicker if you just want to get in and fight, and it has the added bonus of not matching you up against people who are vastly superior to you in every way(my third match I was up against someone who was 14 levels higher than I was. Yeah, I was destroyed). Otherwise online play is pretty smooth, I've played about twenty matches and only encountered lag in about two of them.

Arcade mode is much harder than I remember, or maybe that's because The Apprentice is borderline cheap. Seriously, he can shoot lightning from his fingers while jumping in the air. I had a hell of a time beating him for the first time, but iran through Arcade mode a second time immediatly after and didn't have nearly as much trouble. Regardless, he's much more difficult to beat than Algol, but it's pretty satisfying when you do because he's got a pretty girly scream.

And Nightmare is totally badass in this game, I love what they've done with him. His costume is awesome and his voice is really demonic. Seigfried looks good as well, and although I haven't unlocked him yet, I ran into a Rock player online and he looks sweet too. So far, this seems to be the best game in the series-I haven't played the third one but this is much better than Soul Calibur II, that's for sure.

One final thing, has anybody created a character yet? I tried to, and it turned out I could only edit a preexisting character and thus not get to name my creation. Am I missing something, or is the ability to create an entirely new character something you have to unlock? Because I really am dying to make a Hulk Hogan and take him online.

Edit: Alright, got the character creation sorted out. They could've made it a bit more obvious, it's to the left of the question box.

[Daxdiv]

Picked up this game today. I like that it's pretty quick and easy to unlock the full roster. Also the 360 version tends to give you achievements for breathing.

So, umm... what the heck is a Style Level, and what does raising it get me? 'Cause that's another thing I seem to be doing without trying.

Hmm... my gamerscore addict in me might want to play this now. I had some interest in the game before. Provided my past experience for Soul Calibur is Soul Calibur 2 for the GCN, and all I used was Link, Talim, Rapheal, and some other character, but those were who I mained as. Yoda will most likely replace Link.

[Master Toon]

Why the hell is there no rumble in the 360 version? I'm playing it now, and it feels so...lifeless without it.

Did you check the settings?


The Soul Calibur announcer is always hilariously bad. I love it.

He won't win announcer of the year award but I think he's great, in a corny way.

[Mikintosh]

Did you check the settings?

Yeah, there's no option anywhere for it, not even in the controller section (and also the buttons aren't customizable, like every other fighting game out there).

[Mynd Hed]

Speaking of unforgivable retardation, someone PLEASE tell me that my not finding the option to pit your created characters against the created characters of another person who has a different save file on the same machine is my own fault for not looking hard enough, because if it's actually (as I'm starting, deep in the black pit of my soul, to suspect) just plain MISSING, then I will be forced to schedule an appointment between my tire iron and the head of whatever myopic wanker is responsible.

For that matter, what happened to team battle? There seems to be kind of a dearth of two-player modes besides straight up Vs., which is pretty disappointing.

[GWOtaku]

Well, I'll say this, I saw the ending for The Apprentice on youtube and I'm now more interested in The Force Unleashed.

[Mynd Hed]

Anyone else having trouble pulling off Critical Finishes? I get my enemy's life bar flashing red and I hit the proper button combination, but my character just shakes his head like an idiot. What am I doing wrong?

[Punisher]

Anyone else having trouble pulling off Critical Finishes? I get my enemy's life bar flashing red and I hit the proper button combination, but my character just shakes his head like an idiot. What am I doing wrong?You're doing the button combination right? That's probably the problem. Just press the left bumper once the other guy gets into soul crush. The problem I usually have is that I'll get their soul gauge flashing red, but then they'll proceed to do nothing but guard until the soul gauge stops flashing, thus never giving me a chance to pull a critical finish off. Getitng up to 100 for the achievment is going to be a pain.

Edit: This is the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XQdIL8hNdc) that helped me.

[randomuser83]

I just bought the game and I got to say im loving it. Yoda is the ownage.

[kenjisalk]

Man, Apprentice is incredibly frustrating. I'm not all THAT great as Vader (nor do I want to be), but lord he's hard to get a hit in on him.

Curse you, overpowered force stuff.

[Eddy]

Question: in the character creation mode, can you make a character a Jedi?

[Punisher]

Question: in the character creation mode, can you make a character a Jedi?I don't think you can, which to me is a good thing. I don't want to have to go online and deal with lightning shooting custom characters all the time. Speaking of which, once you find a character you're good with, online is really fun. Of course, that's because winning in itself is fun, but I've had a blast even when I've lost(and I lose more than I win, my online record I believe is a not so hot 20-25). At first I used Nightmare, seeing as he was my main in the first two Soul Caliburs, but the speedy characters really tore me apart. He's great for getting ring outs, but when it takes three victories to win a match, that's just not gonna cut it. I switched to one of the special guest characters, and I've been doing a lot better since.

So, who does everybody use as their main? After giving up on Nightmare earlier tonight, I've gotta say Angol Fear(one of the special guest characters) is officially my best fighter. She's got great range and speed, and relatively easy to pull off combos that can be devastating. Of course, I'll probably still use Nightmare, but not as much anymore, and I'm pretty decent with Lizardman. Those three are about the only ones I'm any good with, but I'll occasionaly play as Yoda or Algol. Oh, and of course, I like to pull out my custom character of Mr. America every once in a while, whose weapon is a giant squid. I lose almost every match with him, but it's hilarious to see people's reactions when I choose him.

[MegaJ]

I'm late responding to my own post, but since my bro's 360 is in for repairs, I might as do it: I am disappointed there only one new canon character, but if there should be a Soul Calibur 5, the character roster needs to be shrunk. It's very bloated now, which I guess is fine for people who want more choice, but that also leaves the possibility of imbalance. The five characters designed by the animu/mango artists design's aren't very inspired (well, Ashlotte's design is bad*****) and some of the older characters just need to go (Pick one NamDai: Cassandra or Sophita, Rock or Astaroth. And Lizardman needed to go yesterday)

Oh well, this is me just ranting.

[GWOtaku]

Did they intend for this to be the final Soul Calibur game? Because I've seen many of the endings on youtube and they seem to give a sense of finality for more than a few characters.

Especially Siegfried; in his ending both he and Nightmare apparently die.

I don't have it around to play, though probably eventually...for now though, we're enduring the process of replacing my roommate's 360 after experiencing a red ring of death. :sad:

[jph139]

Did they intend for this to be the final Soul Calibur game? Because I've seen many of the endings on youtube and they seem to give a sense of finality for more than a few characters.

Especially Siegfried; in his ending both he and Nightmare apparently die.

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the end of this "chapter" of SoulCalibur, you know, the whole Siegfried vs. Nightmare storyline. Then again, they said the same thing about SoulCalibur III, so...

[silverfox1027]

Well, finally played it, and I must say, I'm pretty disappointed. The game looked a bit ridiculous to me from the start, so I didn't expect it to be the best SC yet, but I feel that the game is very bare bones---Bamco basically sacrificed offline play for online play (which I cannot talk about, as I'm not an online gamer). It's probably more fulfilling for those who are online gamers, but for me, it feels very incomplete. Thankfully, I didn't buy the game...$60 is too much to pay for what will inevitably become a paperweight.

Well, there's still Tekken 6.

[Mynd Hed]

Well, finally played it, and I must say, I'm pretty disappointed. The game looked a bit ridiculous to me from the start, so I didn't expect it to be the best SC yet, but I feel that the game is very bare bones---Bamco basically sacrificed offline play for online play (which I cannot talk about, as I'm not an online gamer). It's probably more fulfilling for those who are online gamers, but for me, it feels very incomplete. Thankfully, I didn't buy the game...$60 is too much to pay for what will inevitably become a paperweight.

Well, there's still Tekken 6.

Well, the single-player modes are still as full-featured as ever, but yeah, the offline multiplayer feels pretty stripped down. What happened to team battle? And why can I play tag matches in single-player but not multiplayer? WTF?

[GWOtaku]

And story mode is five matches, apparently? What the hell. That's half as long as SC III. More characters doesn't make up for that, I'm sorry.

[Tenku]

And story mode is five matches, apparently? What the hell. That's half as long as SC III. More characters doesn't make up for that, I'm sorry.

Yeah, which is a sort of disappointment.

I've seen the endings and... I notice the guest characters don't even have a animated ending. A bunch of stills.

[Mynd Hed]

And story mode is five matches, apparently? What the hell. That's half as long as SC III. More characters doesn't make up for that, I'm sorry.

Five matches, but three to four characters in many of them. It's not really any shorter gameplaywise, just fewer loading screens between fights. That can only be considered a good thing.

[GWOtaku]

Five matches, but three to four characters in many of them. It's not really any shorter gameplaywise, just fewer loading screens between fights. That can only be considered a good thing.

Ooooh good, that's more like it. I'd seen some talk about 5 rounds, which I guess was a bit misleading.

[Mynd Hed]

Also there's still a traditional arcade mode (8 best-two-of-three matches in a row) if that's your thing.

[R-Taco]

Personally, I'm glad the Story mode is short. Having to play through more matches than there is to unlock weapons would be a royal pain.



So, who does everybody use as their main?

I've been using a custom character with Kilik's fighting style. I know it's a "noob weapon", but I like the way the attacks move. I'm trying to get better with Talim, though.

[Punisher]

The Tower of Lost Souls is one of the most frustrating things I have ever attempted in any video game. It's really is unfair some of the things they put you through-for example, I've somehow made it to floor 53 of 60 floors and I've gotta use ONE character and beat FOURTEEN without any healing in between, while said fourteen characters have abilities such as Venom Fang, Nullify Ring Out, and Restore Health. It's truly impossible, I spent a good hour on that one specific floor last night, and even the one round where I started off with four perfects, I still lost(and by that time only two fighters were remaining. Yeah, I was pissed).

I'd rather Weapon Master mode had come back then that garbage.

[Eddy]

Just got the game today and, I gotta say, I am loving the character creation mode. I've already made Mr. Satan, King Dedede, Princess Peach, and Harley Quinn to name a few.

[R-Taco]

I just made Inidana Jones, Peach, Wario, Ike, Cloud, Tidus, Kratos, Jak, and a few others. :D

Is anyone else amused that Algol's name written in Japanese is the same as Al Gore's?

[Punisher]

Finally beat Tower of Lost Souls. There was a lot of blood, sweat, and tears, but it's finally over. Now all I have to do is go through all the floors again and get all the treasures.

[n1c3guy707]

Finally beat Tower of Lost Souls. There was a lot of blood, sweat, and tears, but it's finally over. Now all I have to do is go through all the floors again and get all the treasures.

Congrats. I'm doing it the difficult way, unlocking the treasures before moving on the to the next floor.

[kenjisalk]

Man, I am sooooooo sick of most online players. If I have to fight one more cheap-arse Kilik jab spammer, or one more Cervantes clone who feels the need to repeat the same two attacks over and over (I'm looking at YOU teleportation move), I'm gonna plotz.

I'm sticking to arranged matches with friends and that's it. People are way too cheap and lose sight of enjoying the match.

[ShadowGUN]

So why is it that the guest characters cinemas are all still images?

Also I manage to create a Solid Snake, Mario/Luigi and a Kratos.

[R-Taco]

Man, I must suck at this game. Every time I go online I get absolutely obliterated, and I'm not even doing ranked matches.

[kenjisalk]

Man, I must suck at this game. Every time I go online I get absolutely obliterated, and I'm not even doing ranked matches.

It's inevitable, what with so many people with nothing better to do but slog through the game all day. It's just like FPS nuts online who ruin multiplayer fun for non-obsessed players.

[Punisher]

Man, I am sooooooo sick of most online players. If I have to fight one more cheap-arse Kilik jab spammer, or one more Cervantes clone who feels the need to repeat the same two attacks over and over (I'm looking at YOU teleportation move), I'm gonna plotz.Cervantes is the worst, he always gives me trouble, and it doesn't help that at least five out of every ten players uses him. I've found some of the stupider players won't be able to catch on when you bait them towards the edge of the ring and they'll just teleport themselves over the edge for an easy ring out. I managed to do it three times in a row to one guy.

Kilik's are manageable though, since I usually use Seong Mi-na(or Angol Fear, who has the same moveset) I'm able to stay away because we all know Kilik players love to keep you at a distance and just spam the vertical hits. They usually get impatient and charge right at me and bam, I combo them. Another horrible character to run into is Yoda, he's got one move where even if you guard against it, it still pushes you back at least a few feet. I ran into a player who selected the smallest stage in the game and ALL he did was that move, trying to ring me out(and it worked, three times I guarded against it but three times I was rung out anyways).

[RSNaco]

Finally got my hands on some SCIV action and I'm really liking it, but there's one thing that miffed me: they took away the throw part of Astaroth's Posiedon Tide Rush, effectively neutering one of his best, if not the best, move he has.

[Eddy]

I still need to get on Live, so I haven't experienced the horrors of the insanely cheap characters. What about The Apprentice? Is he insanely cheap too? He gave me a hard time when I unlocked him--constantly using the Force lightning and such.

Still can't get enough of the character creation mode. I've made Kasumi, Miho (Sin City), Wario, Waluigi, Captain Falcon, Papa Smurf, The Merchant from Resident Evil 4 (of course, I didn't have anything available under the male costumes, so I had to make a sexy female version of the Merchant), and others that I can't even remember right now.

[Mynd Hed]

I've only played online relatively little, but it hasn't been that bad. 'Course, I usually put on the +/- 10 levels thing so that I'm only facing similarly low-level opponents, and anyone who's inclined to be cheap will likely be doing it so they can level up quickly. The worst I got was some silly kid who prefaced the match with, "I'm playing to win, I just want the achievement, if you don't like it find a different match," which just made it all the funnier when I handed his ass to him. I'm not usually one to gloat about victories (especially considering that I lose more often than I win), but that one was kinda nice. (-:

[Desensitized]

Now that I finally got a copy, I have to say I really love it. I've been playing it since I got it home almost non-stop.

Proceeded to beat Story mode with Mitsurugi right away. Finally, he gets a decent ending. The last time he got one of those was way back in Soul Blade.

[n1c3guy707]

Arght the Tower of Lost Souls is driving me insane. Especially the 1 versus many floors.:mad:

[Tenku]

The Merchant from Resident Evil 4 (of course, I didn't have anything available under the male costumes, so I had to make a sexy female version of the Merchant)

That's the best thing I've ever heard of. A sexy Merchant. X3

[GWOtaku]

Finally got to play it some. The gameplay is up to par and from what I've seen character creation is very thorough, but sadly the story mode really is lacking. You get some some scrolling text and then the entire thing plays out like a glorified arcade mode until the ending arrives. That's just very disappointing and weak after the branching paths and hidden minibosses that were present in III's storyline. It looks like there's only two costumes for every character, as opposed to the four variations that existed in SC III. It's like they weren't even trying. It's an impressive looking game but a lot of depth was sacrificed.

[Conekiller]

What they lack in extra costumes, they make up for in the ability to bring the main fighters into Create a Soul and edit their colors and outfits there. (really "costume 3 & 4" in III was just alternate color schemes that you could edit as well)

[RomanMack]

Okay, got the game and I'm loving it... but... What the hell?

I made a new costume for Talim and put her in a fight... And by the end of the match she had nothing but underwear on... WTF?!

[R-Taco]

Okay, got the game and I'm loving it... but... What the hell?

I made a new costume for Talim and put her in a fight... And by the end of the match she had nothing but underwear on... WTF?!

Clothes can be destroyed now.