Transformers: Animated- "Thrill of the Hunt" Premiere Talkback

[bigddan11]

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Episode 7
Premieres Saturday Mornings at 10:30 AM ET
Encores Sunday at 12 PM

Today: A new muscle car appears in Detroit, and this car causes Ratchet to relive his days during the previous Autobot/ Decepticon war. Is this new force a Decepticon in disguise, and even if it's not, how will the Autobots manage to overcome this foe when Ratchet keeps drifting into the past?

Meet your Autobots:
http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/optimus-prime/optimus-prime-preview.jpg Optimus Prime: Optimus is the leader of the Autobots that have crashed on Earth. He attended the Autobot academy, but Ultra Magnus made him leader of a salvaging team since he believes Optimus isn't programmed to be a hero.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/bumblebee/bumblebee-preview.jpg Bumblebee: Bumblebee may be a young bot, but he has speed and is willing to serve. He worries about having never been programmed for actual battles, but he believes his speed will allow him to overcome any obstacle.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/bulkhead/bulkhead-preview.jpg Bulkhead: Bulkhead is strong and ready to bust through must challenges with his strength, but he tends to get stuck on the simplest tasks from being too overaggressive. When he tries to adapt others strategies though, he finds he isn't of much use, so crushing everything in his path seems to be the way to go. Many people like to compare Bulkhead to Thing from Fantastic Four.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/ratchet/ratchet-preview.jpg Ratchet: Ratchet is a veteran from the previous war, and he's always ready to assist his friends when they are in danger. He has great repair capabilities, but he is also known as being senile.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/prowl/prowl-preview.jpg Prowl: Prowl is silent, but he is also deadly. He usually strikes without any warning. Prowl carefully watches everyone on Earth and is trying to adapt their most deadly skills, even if it's being as silent as a cat.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/arcee/arcee-preview.jpg Arcee: Arcee is an Autobot that specializes in gathering and storing intelligence. During the great war she held the key to defeat the Decepticons in her memory, but events led to a tide change which made the war go on longer.

A few of the almighty Decepticons that appear:
http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/megatron/megatron-preview.jpg Megatron: He might be only a head, but this leader of the Decepticons is always a force to be readyfor, especially when he's studying his enemies techniques and building himself stronger body than ever before.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/lockdown/lockdown-preview.jpg Lockdown: Lockdown is a Bounty Hunter that specializes in collecting trophies of warriors he has captured. He has come to Earth and is looking for his biggest bounty to date.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/blitzwing/blitzwing-preview.jpg Blitzwing: Since Megatron has fallen, Blitzwing has taken up the cause of making sure the warriors who defeated their leader feel all Decepticons wrath, but instead of battling one-on-one, he's decided to send other resources, at least until he knows where the Autobots are hiding.

And, of course, the humans.
http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/sari-sumdac/sari-sumdac-preview.jpg Sari Sumdac: Sari Sumdac is a young girl armed with a key powered by the All Spark. She's decided to help the Autobots train to become heroes.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/issac-sumdac/issac-sumdac-preview.jpg Isaac Sumdac: Isaac Sumdac is the creator of Detroit's robot empire, but he has stolen technology from Megatron to do so. He assists the Autobots when needed, but he worries what they will do if they find out his secret.

http://www.transformersanimated.com/img/characters/captain-fanzone/captain-fanzone-preview.jpg Captain Fanzone: Captain Fanzone is the chief of Detroit's police, but he isn't a fan of robots. He questions what the Autobots true intents are, but he also recognizes they can help him when the situation calls for it.

Next Week:
Episode 8- "Nanosec"

[ShadowGUN]

So Arcce is now R.C. at least according to the CC.

Lockdown seem like pretty good villain so far.

[bigddan11]

It was interesting seeing how they handled Ratchet's past. I'm glad they're making it where this part of the Autobot/ Decepticon war is after G1 but before Beast Wars/ Machines. It helps explains why Ultra Magnus is the leader (Optimus and Rodimus apparently died in the previous war) and why a new Optimus is trying to follow in his predecessors footsteps.

ShadowGUN, Arcee is only listed as R. C. on the closed captions but she is listed as Arcee on the Transformers Animated Web site and with Hasbro.

[kid rabbit]

this was a good episode it was good they gave rachet a back story the rachet and aarcee attracion was a nice touch

[Tash]

So Arcce is now R.C. at least according to the CC.

Lockdown seem like pretty good villain so far.
The closed captioning also misspelled "eons" and "opossum", so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

[D Dubbs]

Probably my favorite episode so far. We finally get a compelling side villain, an interesting backstory of Ratchet, and a climatic battle.

The lack of Sari is interesting, too. Glad to see that the Autobots don't need to rely on her too much.

[creativerealms]

Closed captioning as far from perfect though I'm pretty sure her name is still spelled Arcce.

Anyway i liked the episode, Blitzwing hiring Lockdown to capture Optimus (Which I figure will be references in the upcoming Blitzwing Lugnut episode)

The flashback to the Great war was nice. (I guess the "historical document" was done in a dramatic style while in the actual Great war they had their same Transformers: Animated designs.

Nice to take a break for Sari and megatron. Without Sari Rachet actually got to be the medic of the team in this episode. And well Already said it's nice to see Blitzwing return already. I figire they are not on Earth yet which is why he hired and sent Lockdown.

Lock Down was an interesting villain. yes the hunter who takes trophys is a cartoon cliche and he follows the pattern of Deceptacons being way more powerful and well skilled in combat then the Autobots

Prowl continues to show that he could be a better leader then Optimus. i am expecting him to become the teams second in command soon.

This knowledge we know of Arcce, her relation ship with Ratchet (He feels bad for wiping her memory clean even if she told him too. Well it should make Season two interesting as she's suppose to be part of Sentinal Primes Elite Guard.

Next week we may finally see just what the human villains can so, since Meltdown's episode was skipped. I hope they don't skip Nanosec. But if they do it confirms my theory that cartoon Network want to focus on the Autobots Vs Decepticon story lines.

All and all another good and fun episode. I'm happy that Sari is not being added into every episode. This episode worked better without her. With her well it might not was been as serous.

[bigddan11]

Next week we may finally see just what the human villains can so, since Meltdown's episode was skipped. I hope they don't skip Nanosec. But if they do it confirms my theory that cartoon Network want to focus on the Autobots Vs Decepticon story lines.

cartoonnetwork.com lists "Nanosec" as airing next week. They didn't list "Meltdown" as airing on the week it was supposed to.

[maczero]

It was interesting seeing how they handled Ratchet's past. I'm glad they're making it where this part of the Autobot/ Decepticon war is after G1 but before Beast Wars/ Machines. It helps explains why Ultra Magnus is the leader (Optimus and Rodimus apparently died in the previous war) and why a new Optimus is trying to follow in his predecessors footsteps. Is there anything official stating that the new series is part of the same continuity as previous toons? Sure they used G1 footage in the 1st ep, but I considered it an homage to the 80's toon.

[tb4000]

I didn't catch the credits, but was Lockdown voiced by Peter Cullen, because he sounded a lot like him.

[bigddan11]

Is there anything official stating that the new series is part of the same continuity as previous toons? Sure they used G1 footage in the 1st ep, but I considered it an homage to the 80's toon.
I don't believe there is, but during Beast Wars they talked about it being yet another of the neverending wars the Decepticons/ Predacons started, which means it's easy enough to insert in that chronology, since Beast Wars didn't specify a year it took place in. I could easily see new Autobots/ Decepticons being named after fallen heroes of the previous wars, which would explain why this new Optimus wants to live up to his legacy.

[bigddan11]

I didn't catch the credits, but was Lockdown voiced by Peter Cullen, because he sounded a lot like him.
Lockdown was voiced by Lance Hendrikson.

[creativerealms]

cartoonnetwork.com lists "Nanosec" as airing next week. They didn't list "Meltdown" as airing on the week it was supposed to.
I see.

[Razor]

I don't believe there is, but during Beast Wars they talked about it being yet another of the neverending wars the Decepticons/ Predacons started, which means it's easy enough to insert in that chronology, since Beast Wars didn't specify a year it took place in. I could easily see new Autobots/ Decepticons being named after fallen heroes of the previous wars, which would explain why this new Optimus wants to live up to his legacy.

Uh, I would think that the Autobots and Decepticons appearing on Earth for the first time, the Decepticons having been defeated for centuries rather than a few decades (Animated takes place in the 22nd century, and G1 took place in the early 2000's), and the Allspark being a BOX would kill any notion of this being in continuity with G1.

[Master Toon]

and the Allspark being a BOX would kill any notion of this being in continuity with G1.

I don't think this series is connected to the others. Is there a reason people think so? Besides the name of the show.

[Razor]

I don't think this series is connected to the others. Is there a reason people think so? Besides the name of the show.

The use of G1 footage made everyone want to try and shoehorn it in.

[HEATXZ]

Lockdown is awesome

[FidoMcCokefiend]

Trying to put this in the same continuity as G1would be like trying to put Robots in Disguise, which took place in 2000, part of the same continuity because of the Vehicon Drones joke, even though earth was established as being advanced by then in the G1 universe, and was far closer to the actual year 2000 in RiD. Or putting the 2007 movie in the same continuity just because they both have Prime using a bladed weapon from his wrist. This show was not made to be part of G1. This show was never intended to be G1. The G1 footage was put there for one reason and one reason only. FAN WANK. You might as well say Futurama and Simpsons are in the same continuity because you see Bender in Future-Drama. Or putting Freakazoid in the DCAU just because Bruce Timm did both.

Sorry if I sound like an ass, but Transformers are one of the VERY few things that are actually important to me, so it really grinds at me when I hear (or rather, read) people saying things so very, very wrong.

[FortressMaximus]

TF Animated is like G-Gundam...a wacky, fun sidetrip into the world of Transformers where past continunities just don't matter outside homage material and plot elements carried over from one to another but tweaked for whatever new universe is being played in at the time.

Althought I can understand the folks who try to tie all these series in together. It's fun to get everything to fall into place and see how 'a' begat 'b' that created 'c' etc... .

One thing I'd like to point out is that you can actually make R.I.D fit into the TF continunity of G1, BW and BM. Again, it's totally fan made, but it's interesing (to me anyway) to consider. This timeline was created by a good friend of mine and posted on Alt.toys.transformers several weeks before someone stole it and presented it as their work.

Normal TimeLine- Beast Wars, Generation One, Beast Machines

Alt Timeline caused by G1 Megatron's spark not being returned (the kicker is that you have to decide that even though the scene where it is returned was animated but cut for time does that make it cannon)

Beast Wars--RiD become this universes Generation One (Megatron dies due to no spark)-Beast Machines.

I kinda like this because it explains why all the Maximals in Beast Machines were so different than what we got used to in Beast Wars. Sure, the easy way is to say the writing missed a lot of nuiances and they didn't do enough research into the characters, but the FUN way is to say that when the Maximals returned to Cybertron from the Beast Wars, their memories were altered as remembering RiD as their past so they were not the same individuals as when they left prehistoric earth.

Don't mean to upset anyone, but I just wanted to post this as I find it really interesting. But I honestly don't think you can get animated to work with any previous series.

But if they keep having episodes like "Thrill of the Hunt' this series is gonna do well!

FM











[quote=FidoMcCokefiend;2760183]Trying to put this in the same continuity as G1would be like trying to put Robots in Disguise, which took place in 2000, part of the same continuity because of the Vehicon Drones joke, even though earth was established as being advanced by then in the G1 universe, and was far closer to the actual year 2000 in RiD.

[bigddan11]

Uh, I would think that the Autobots and Decepticons appearing on Earth for the first time, the Decepticons having been defeated for centuries rather than a few decades (Animated takes place in the 22nd century, and G1 took place in the early 2000's), and the Allspark being a BOX would kill any notion of this being in continuity with G1.
G1 took place from 1985- until probably the 2000's, since Spike has a kid at the end of Transformers who is something like 7 or 8, on Earth. It is unknown what happened after the combiners saga until what is mentioned in Beast Wars, which is that the Maximals are descendants of the Autobots and Predacons of the Decepticons. They also mention that the Decepticons were defeated in the great war, a war which is currently being referred to by Optimus. I'm not saying this is the case, but if the Transformers broke off contact with Earth sometime during the war, then they might not have cared to teach future Transformers about the humans. Humans would have also lost the Transformers technology when they left Earth. The continual contact with Earth is what might have finally led them to teach the Maximals and Predacons about humans. There's also nothing that says the AllSpark couldn't have evolved and changed shape, so if they really wanted to make this part of G1, they could. It could also explain why Fanzone hates robots- he believes they cause more trouble on Earth. Maybe he knows the truth about the past war.

[Hyper Shadow X]

Then that was who the villian for this eppy was.

[FidoMcCokefiend]

G1 took place from 1985- until probably the 2000's, since Spike has a kid at the end of Transformers who is something like 7 or 8, on Earth. It is unknown what happened after the combiners saga until what is mentioned in Beast Wars, which is that the Maximals are descendants of the Autobots and Predacons of the Decepticons. They also mention that the Decepticons were defeated in the great war, a war which is currently being referred to by Optimus. I'm not saying this is the case, but if the Transformers broke off contact with Earth sometime during the war, then they might not have cared to teach future Transformers about the humans. Humans would have also lost the Transformers technology when they left Earth. The continual contact with Earth is what might have finally led them to teach the Maximals and Predacons about humans. There's also nothing that says the AllSpark couldn't have evolved and changed shape, so if they really wanted to make this part of G1, they could. It could also explain why Fanzone hates robots- he believes they cause more trouble on Earth. Maybe he knows the truth about the past war.

Then why aren't their flying cars in the scene showing the Autobots crash? It was established that Humans had advanced technology in 2005 due to 20 years with the Transformers. In this, it is made clear that their advanced technology is due to 50 years with Megatron's Head. Why don't people just listen to the damn writers, made it clear when we first HEARD about the show that it's a NEW UNIVERSE.

[Fifi Fanatic]

I just regard each TF series as its' own seperate universe. I'm sure that, with a lot of work, one could shoehorn them all together... but I'm too lazy to try it. :anime:

Anyway, getting to this episode: I think this may be my favorite so far. I'm just gonna repeat what everybody else said here. Ratchet's backstory was very well done. Lockdown is one tremendous new villain. I think I like the fact that he's a bounty hunter rather than a member of either faction. Anyway, it should be interesting to see what's become of Arcee the next time she appears.

If there are more episodes like this coming down the pike, I'd say we've got a real hit on our hands. :cool: And I can't wait until Fall! I want the Bulkhead and Lockdown toys NOW! :D

[Beat]

Trying to rectify various continuities is headache inducing at best. It's a different show, different Prime's, different continuities on the tree. Optimus Prime here is basically a college dropout, no relation to Galaxy Convoy or G1 Prime or Primal, etc all. The story seems to want to stand on its own while throwing in enough references for all the fanboys, as opposed to trying something completely new.

I'd rather judge the series on its own merits than try and shoehorn it in with other shows. I think that's why I liked Galaxy Force, because I didn't try to rectify it with Armada and Energon.