Nickelodeon Imports??

[lemonhead75]

I think if CN imported some of Nickelodeons old shows, it would really benefit them. I mean, they still have contracts to run on their other channels maybe, but those contracts can't last forever.

Nick cancelled a lot of good shows over the years;

Invader Zim
The Angry Beavers
Hey Arnold

etc.

Cartoon Network could use a few more shows to the line up.

[Blackstar]

...Or CN could just rerun some of their own canceled classics, such as Dexter's Lab, The Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo and Megas XLR.

Cartoon Network acquiring canceled original shows from a competing network? Uh-uh. CN wouldn't want to do that. They have no reason to do that. That's not going to happen. Honestly, that's as likely to happen as Warner Brothers and Disney merging into a single studio, which is to say, not likely at all. No offense, but I don't see how either network would benefit from such a move in any way.

As for new shows on CN's lineup, no need to worry about that. CN has a few new animated series coming to the network. CN is far from over.

[Lavenderpaw]

If Nick won't air them anymore,why give them to a competitor to air them and make money off of and/or get better ratings?And for that matter Nick should know by now that if they aired IZ on CN,CN's ratings would suddenly skyrocket because of the cult following it obtained rapidly it seems after IZ was canceled.

[Silverstar]

Why would Nick lend their properties out to the competition? Especially when most of them already air on their own sister channel, Nicktoons Network?

And why would CN need to acquire canceled Nick shows when they already have plenty of their own canceled classics that they're just sitting on?

CN doesn't need to start showing former cartoons from another network. They have plenty of new shows coming to their lineup already: Transformers, George of the Jungle, Secret Saturdays, Flapjack, Mr. Men and that new Ben 10 show, to name only a few.

[danreyes1]

That would be as weird as, oh, Toon Disney airing old Kids WB cartoons. Wait a sec...

[Dr.Pepper]

I don't think that NIck would ever want to sell their orignal shows to anyone, let alone one of their enemies.

[Gokou Ruri]

If Nick won't air them anymore,why give them to a competitor to air them and make money off of and/or get better ratings?And for that matter Nick should know by now that if they aired IZ on CN,CN's ratings would suddenly skyrocket because of the cult following it obtained rapidly it seems after IZ was canceled. A cult following doesn't equal ratings, especially when it was canceled for bad ratings in the first place.

[Blackstar]

A cult following doesn't equal ratings, especially when it was canceled for bad ratings in the first place.

True. Megas XLR had a fairly strong cult following amongst it's fans, but that didn't prevent CN from canceling the show due to low ratings.

That aside, Nickelodeon wouldn't want to give away any of it's original shows any more than Cartoon Network would be interested in taking them. Why would Nick hand it's canceled Nicktoons over to some other channel and then run the risk of having to compete with one of their own shows on a rival network? That wouldn't be a smart move on Nick's part, no matter how one looks at it.

Nick isn't going to get rid of it's original shows as long as they think that a profit can be made off of them. Nick would sooner keep those shows locked away in the vaults than give them away to a competitor who could potentially get rich off of them.

[Net1360]

True. Megas XLR had a fairly strong cult following amongst it's fans, but that didn't prevent CN from canceling the show due to low ratings.

And the fact that the three male characters on that series were all idiots!

[Blackstar]

And the fact that the three male characters on that series were all idiots!

Um, no. That's your opinion, not a fact, and it should be voiced as such. The male characters' I.Q.s had no bearing whatsoever on how the show fared in the ratings. If just having stupid characters was grounds for canceling a show, then there would be nothing on TV right now.

Let's keep this on topic, please.

[Draft]

CN probably wants to do something like that (Ever since they got addicted to whatever convicned them to make Live-Action)

However, Nick won't let it happen, especially what happened when they got rid of Doug (Huge success) and the DVD rights for Zim (Huge sales)

[Blackstar]

CN probably wants to do something like that (Ever since they got addicted to whatever convicned them to make Live-Action)

There won't be any new live action shows on CN until after the writers' strike ends, so we can probably chill with that topic (at least for now).

[Master Toon]

That wouldn't make sense. Acquire old shows from a competitor to benefit them. I just don't see the point.

[desi]

CN is stupid but not that stupid. Showing nicktoons is like waving a white flag to their competitor Nick. Besides, I don't think any other animated programming based channel has a library of animated shows bigger than CN.

[Draft]

There won't be any new live action shows on CN until after the writers' strike ends, so we can probably chill with that topic (at least for now).
I know that, i'm just saying that CN is making stupid decisions because they think that's what 6-11 want (probably because the cartoons lately suck).

and Master Toon, never say never. Heck, That's how Adult Swim Started (Home Movie from UPN, Family Guy and Futurama from Fox). and lest we forget Disney's Doug..

[Mattashell]

It wasn't the most informed post, perhaps, but no need to jump down the guys throat. He did say:


I mean, they still have contracts to run on their other channels maybe, but those contracts can't last forever.

Okay, with today's copyright laws, it would be generations from now untill there rights expire, however that doesn't mean that once these neglected shows start growing mold, Nick wouldn't sell them off to some third party.

By this time those shows would be seen as classics or at least retro, and it may be hard to visualize in this day of entertainment conglomerants, where the cable dial seems to have clear borders drawn on it between AOL/Time Warner, Viacom, Disney and Soney, I still remember a time when networks didn't necessarily own or distribute what they aired. In those days older cartoons could be seen on any local or cable channel sometimes including network affiliates, reguardless of where the shows originally aired. I'm sure the oldest Nicktoons are at least as old now as, say, Scooby Doo was when I watched those on local channels as a kid.

Cartoon Networks current policy may be a different story, as they want to move away from retro, however I could easily see the "old" cartoon network airing an older toon they had aquired from Nick, and CN's programing trends could change, maybe a long time from now, maybe even soon. It's unlikely, but you never know.


That would be as weird as, oh, Toon Disney airing old Kids WB cartoons. Wait a sec...

Thank you. That is a perfect, though rare, example of what I'm talking about. Tiny Toons and Animaniacs, are beloved WB properties, that have been passed back and forth from Nickelodeon/Nicktoons, Cartoon Network and Toon Disney. Now B:TAS is also on Toon Disney. When those shows were in their peaks, niether company would probably allow such an exchange, but they're old enough now that there is a more relaxed attitude on how to handle them, and WB still makes money off Disney.

Actually I do agree with most of you that it will never happen, I'm just playing devil's advocate and also pointing out that it's not as easy to dismiss as everyone's making it out. It's unlikely, but still a possibility.

[Master Toon]

I know that, i'm just saying that CN is making stupid decisions because they think that's what 6-11 want (probably because the cartoons lately suck).

and Master Toon, never say never. Heck, That's how Adult Swim Started (Home Movie from UPN, Family Guy and Futurama from Fox). and lest we forget Disney's Doug..

But not only would CN not ask for them, Nick wouldn't give it to them. I just don't see exclusive Nick shows on CN.

[Jave]

But not only would CN not ask for them, Nick wouldn't give it to them. I just don't see exclusive Nick shows on CN.Considering Nick treats even its own productions like crap, it wouldn't strike me as odd in the least bit.

[Draft]

But not only would CN not ask for them, Nick wouldn't give it to them. I just don't see exclusive Nick shows on CN.
But I think they might, because they have been making stupid decisions lately. They'd probably rate better than half of their current shows :p (jk?). I don't think they really do, but you never know..

[Master Toon]

The only way I see Nick doing that is if it could make them money and that's the case they could just put those classics on Nicktoons Network.

[DarkToph]

Or just do it the old fashion way....


Put it on DVD and sell it. Crazy concept, right?

[Racattack!Force]

Or just do it the old fashion way....


Put it on DVD and sell it. Crazy concept, right?
Not crazy...it's just so obvious that a network won't try that first.

[Cartoons90]

I believe Looney Tunes and most 90s WB cartoons switched between all three networks, so I don't see why the shows you mentioned couldn't.

[Racattack!Force]

I believe Looney Tunes and most 90s WB cartoons switched between all three networks, so I don't see why the shows you mentioned couldn't.
Because WB isn't a network. It is just a class animation studio. When a network makes it's own cartoons, there are a bunch of rules about where and how they can be boradcasted.

[Cartoons90]

True. What about Doug though?

[DarthGonzo]

True. What about Doug though?

That doesn't count either. Disney bought the property and started making brand new episodes. That really doesn't have much to do with what we're talking about.

[Blackstar]

True. What about Doug though?

What about Doug? The 1st four seasons of Doug are owned by Nickelodeon, while the "Brand Spanking New" episodes are the property of Disney, so you'll never see either version of Doug airing on Cartoon Network as long as CN is owned by Time Warner.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

That wouldn't make sense. Acquire old shows from a competitor to benefit them. I just don't see the point.\

Tell that to Goosebumps.

Who'd a thunk a 90's show returning out of nowhere would do so well. For similar reasons, CN will probably look into getting more shows from their competitors or past competitors.

[Blackstar]

CN airing the reruns of Goosebumps isn't really the same thing as the idea of airing Nicktoons on CN. Goosebumps was more or less and acquisition produced by Scholastic. FOX didn't produce the series, they only aired it. The Nicktoons, by contrast, were produced specifically to air on Nick, and therefore are the sole property of Nick, whether they are presently airing or not. As previously stated, Nick would rather just sit on those shows and not air them before they would lend them out to a rival network.

[Jave]

On the other hand, Nick had absolutely no problem on giving Disney the rights on Fairly Oddparents in Latin America.

[TheVofSteel]

They didn't give them rights to the series, just airing rights for that one country.

Why, I have no idea. And I know that there is a Nickelodeon in Latin America. :confused:

[Jave]

They didn't give them rights to the series, just airing rights for that one country.And isn't that what this thread is all about?

Latin America is not "one country", btw.

[Racattack!Force]

And isn't that what this thread is all about?

Latin America is not "one country", btw.

But still, only the airing rights.

[Dudley]

The only way CN could get their hands on a Nick show is if they're willing to pay to air it.
And why would they want to air it anyway?

[Racattack!Force]

The only way CN could get their hands on a Nick show is if they're willing to pay to air it.
And why would they want to air it anyway?
Don't know. When CN airs something that didn't at first belong to them, it has this werid, out-of-place feeling. :(

[Jave]

Didn't CN air a movie with the Nickelodeon logo once?

[Space Cadet]

Didn't CN air a movie with the Nickelodeon logo once?

Yeah, it was Snow Day.

[Racattack!Force]

Yeah, it was Snow Day.
That thing really suprised me, but there is a fine line between live action movies and cartoons...that's thining every year (live-action cartoon characters suck).