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Nelson
06-18-2001, 10:33 PM
Who do you consider was the real true Mickey Mouse rip off....and yes you can add Mickey's name to the list

Nelson
06-18-2001, 10:42 PM
In my opinion. Mickey was the knock off (or rip off) of another famous cartoon star..Oswald The Lucky Rabbit.UB IWERKS created Mickey Mouse by shorting the long ears and making them round, and also he wiped out the bushy tale for a long tail.

So if you ask me, Mickey Mouse and the rest of the cartoon stars all ripped off "Oswald"

Patrick McCart
06-18-2001, 11:11 PM
FOXY AND ROXY

Heck, they even sound like Mickey!

kiddiesunshine
06-18-2001, 11:40 PM
I voted for the last one because it looked so lonely. I saw a cartoon on LNB&W last night and there was a character that was an exact replica of Mickey Mouse. Another note, I thought you were talking about characters whowere made from Mickey Mouse. If that's so, how can Mickey Mouse be a rip-off of himself? I'm confused again!

Nelson
06-18-2001, 11:57 PM
No need to be confused about my theory.

In 1928 when Walt lost Oswald, he contacted Ub Iwerks to come up with a new cartoon charachter so what Ub did was he had a sketch of Oswald made the long ears into round ears, and he took Oswald's fluffy round tail and made into a long skinny tail. Thus making Mickey Mouse.

Mickey was indeed a mouse verison Of Oswald, Mickey wore the same gloves like Oswald, he wore the same shorts like Oswald, and even talked like Oswald back in 1929 after Walter Lantz took over the series for Universal Pictures.Remeber Oswald came out in 1927 and Mickey came out in 1928. After that, other studios came out with characters that looked like and sounded like Oswald and Mickey.

The only cartoon stars that really didn't bare any kind of resemblance to the two cartoon stars. was Fleischer's "Bimbo". Iwerks, "Flip The Frog", and Mintz's "Scrappy", at the time of the early sound era.

But in 1932, Walt Disney took The Van Bueren company to court over the the other studios mice that looked to damn close to Disney's famous mice, after that both studios settled the matter out of court, but allowing Van Beuren to release the ones featuring the rip off mice.

David Gerstein
06-19-2001, 03:27 AM
Hey!

Just putting in my two cents: I *don't* think Mickey is an Oswald rip-off.
It's all about the personality, based in live-action stars of the time. The early Mickey, in films like GALLOPIN' GAUCHO, is an attempt at an animated Douglas Fairbanks (as Ub Iwerks explicitly noted): dashing, daring, and quick on his feet with a roguish sense of humor.
Oswald, by contrast, isn't usually in control of a situation; with a few exceptions (OH, WHAT A KNIGHT most obviously) he only *tries* to be in charge. OH TEACHER! and HUNGRY HOBOES are examples of this; he's much more a Lloyd than a Fairbanks.
Bosko, BTW, was created long before he was actually used: in January 1928. He is more of an Oswald rip-off than a Mickey rip-off. As far as personality goes, so is Flip the Frog.
IMHO, of course...

David

DR. BELCH
06-20-2001, 08:27 PM
What of Mortimer from the "Outland" comic strip?http://www.3dpcgames.com/cwm/s/otn/animals/baer.gif

PorkyandDaffy
06-20-2001, 10:22 PM
How about the short-lived Foxy?

Bobby B
06-21-2001, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
What of Mortimer from the "Outland" comic strip?http://www.3dpcgames.com/cwm/s/otn/animals/baer.gif


Mortimer was Mickey's fraternal twin brother/stunt double.

Sveven Dvorking
07-07-2001, 07:36 PM
He even looks like m*ck*y.