No Way Out: Return of the NWO

[DarkAngel]

Anybody watch the ppv last night? What'd you think?

It was solid overall, but I was disappointed in the impact of the nwo. It seemed underplayed. Given the buildup, I would have expected them to have interfered in more than just the Austin match. The backstage moments with Austin and Rock were great, though.

Of the three, I'd have to say Hall made the biggest impact with some of his backstage comments and the stunners to Austin. He's definitely scary looking.

Highlight of the ppv had to be Triple H's entrance. Great as usual. Especially the look Steph gave him as he approached the ring. Another great visual moment was the camera angle on the Game as he stood atop the turnbuckle, looking down on Steph as the lights effects played on him.

[nightwing_38116]

I was VERY disappointed with it all. I think that my WWF PPV days are over.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by nightwing_38116
I was VERY disappointed with it all. I think that my WWF PPV days are over.

A lot of people seem to be. There were two aspects that really bothered me: HHH getting screwed in his match and the nwo having so little impact after being hyped so much.

I don't know. In my opinion, the WWF is better than what it was last year during the whole Invasion storyline. I had zero interest then. Recently, with the return of HHH, Flair, Mr. Perfect, and now the nwo, my interest has picked up a lot. My only worry now (and it's a big one) is over whether the backstage political games are going to begin again. It seems a certainty.

Looking at No Way Out in isolation, I think it was fine. The nwo could have been handled better, but the ppv was pretty good overall. But in longterm, I think there could be big problems ahead from Nash and company. That could be the wwf's downfall.

[nightwing_38116]

I agree with you. I just hope Benoit gets well soon.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by nightwing_38116
I just hope Benoit gets well soon.

Because of his impact on the storylines or because he might be able to stand up to nash, hall, and hogan?

[Sheamon]

While the WWF's been in a huge 'hole' since 1999 when the huge Austin vs. McMahanon storyline ended, it has been getting better recently. You have to admit that now is a hell of a lot better than the Invasion and McMahanon Helmsley era angles. I'm still not at the point where I'm gonna purchase a PPV again (Wrestlemania 2000 drove me away from them permanently), but I can say I'm more excited now in RAW/Smackdown than I have for a long time.

[langden alger]

yeah the highlights were def the backstage interaction with rock and austin..those were some dream confrontations for a long time. it was great to see that..funny as hell too. i love scott hall! as far as they're impact, i like how it was downplayed a little just to attemt at throwng the fans a loop... until the obvious austin match ending of coarse..i thought it was really creative of the wwf to bring them into the ppv with the "just fans' scheme. and don't worry, they'll make up for the lack of brutality tonight on raw i'm sure. :D

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by langden alger
don't worry, they'll make up for the lack of brutality tonight on raw i'm sure. :D

Prophetic words. The NWO destroyed the Rock moments ago.
As for the WWF being in a whole, I don't think that really started until Austin turned heel at Wrestlemania last year. I loved most of the HHH's reign during 1999 and 2000. He's one of the very best in the business right now. But in the Invasion angle and the Austin heel turn just didn't work. Things are definitely picking up now. I've gone from not watching at all last year, to catching most of the shows during the last couple weeks.

[Vin]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


Prophetic words. The NWO destroyed the Rock moments ago.
As for the WWF being in a whole, I don't think that really started until Austin turned heel at Wrestlemania last year. I loved most of the HHH's reign during 1999 and 2000. He's one of the very best in the business right now. But in the Invasion angle and the Austin heel turn just didn't work. Things are definitely picking up now. I've gone from not watching at all last year, to catching most of the shows during the last couple weeks.

I just was flipping the channels a half an hour ago or so after "AngeL" ended and saw the whole Rock/Hogan confrontation. I then saw the NWO attacking Rock. I have watched wrestling in a while, but I enjoyed seeing the Rock get schooled by Hogan and gang. The whole trunk smashing into the ambulence was shocking. I mean, I know Rock didn't get hurt, but still.

[Momijii]

I dunno but NWO has a major fan base with the people,doesn't matter the zany antics they do...I like them ever since seeing them in WCW.I wanting to see their next victim...even if it's not real-It's entertainment.

[Kathy Kane]

I saw RAW last night.
I was glad that the Rock and Stone Cold were standing up to them but the only way to beat the NWO is unity, plain and simple. If the Rock, SC & HHH, got together against the NWO then the retirement homes wouldn't stand a chance. Also the more people NWO pisses off the more allies the Rock, and anyone else will have to beat them.
As for last night I'll be honest they didn't impress me that much, they were like an older DX only less mature. Hogan hiting that amblulance, how tough is that?!?
THe NWO seem to be a bunch of bullies, who are going to find out sooner or later, that their in the wrong yard.

call me kane

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Kathy Kane
As for last night I'll be honest they didn't impress me that much, they were like an older DX only less mature. Hogan hiting that amblulance, how tough is that?!?
THe NWO seem to be a bunch of bullies

True, but ultimately that's the point. The heels rarely have any class and are ultimately a bunch of cowards. HHH was no different during his title reign. He was cowardly in his attacks. Hogan hitting the ambulance was like the HHH/Rikishi car hit on Austin during the '99 Survivor Series. In fact, it's even similar to Austin using the lift to drop the car carrying HHH, demolishing it and "destroying" the Game.

I'd say the NWO was more impressive last night than at the PPV. They are supposed to be a destructive force afterall, a lethal dose of poison to the WWF.

[The Game]

I was VERY disappointed with it all. I think that my WWF PPV days are over.

I'm a pretty big wrestling fan, but after shelling out another thirty bucks for Sunday nights garbage, I'm beginning to feel this way too. I just honestly don't feel it's worth the money- thirty bucks is alot (well, alot for me personally to be spending on a one time event), and on Sunday night there wasn't a single match that was worthy of its share. Rock/Undertaker was lame, Triple H/Angle should have been better, and Jericho/Austin was a major disapoinment with a screw-job ending...

And really, Goldust is THE least entertaining wrestler on the roster- he drags RVD down just by being in the ring with him!

[The Game]

While the WWF's been in a huge 'hole' since 1999 when the huge Austin vs. McMahanon storyline ended, it has been getting better recently. You have to admit that now is a hell of a lot better than the Invasion and McMahanon Helmsley era angles. I'm still not at the point where I'm gonna purchase a PPV again (Wrestlemania 2000 drove me away from them permanently), but I can say I'm more excited now in RAW/Smackdown than I have for a long time.

I disagree. I think the year 2000 had its highlights but was a weak year overall, but 2001 (well, actually just the first half) was good, I think. The Rumble through KOTR were all good (with the exception of Backlash- quite possibly the worst PPV I've ever seen).

Right now... I don't know. I want to see what else they've got cooked up for Wrestlemania 18, because Rock/Hogan and Jericho/HHH won't sell me. It will be hard to follow after last year's extrodinary showcase, but who knows.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by thegame8866

Right now... I don't know. I want to see what else they've got cooked up for Wrestlemania 18, because Rock/Hogan and Jericho/HHH won't sell me.

I don't see how you can say that about a Hogan-Rock match. Hogan's the biggest name of the past, and Rock's one of the biggest today. You can't get a matchup much bigger than that. I think you're missing the significance of what that would mean.

As for the Jericho/HHH match, I don't think it'll be as problematic as everyone likes to make out. HHH is the best in wrestling right now, which alone is going to make for a great wrestlemania championship match. Especially since I'd say Jericho'll be due for a loss by then. HHH walking away with the belts will be more than great. Jericho himself isn't all that bad. You need to feel strongly about one of the participants losing to really make things interesting, and that's certainly there with Y2J. He's got the swagger and arrogance down and is certainly not new to the ring. He's deserved a chance to main event and a match with the Game should work.

[The Game]

I don't see how you can say that about a Hogan-Rock match. Hogan's the biggest name of the past, and Rock's one of the biggest today. You can't get a matchup much bigger than that. I think you're missing the significance of what that would mean.

I completley understand what the signifigance is- the reason it doesn't impress me is because the match itself will suck. Whens the last time Hogan had a good match? I can't remember. The Rock is one of my least favorite wrestlers, and while I understand the historical signifigance of this showdown, I think it will blow the big one.

[JohnStewart-GL]

I though it was pretty good. I already think wrestlemania's gonna be better i mean Hogan vs Rock
and
HHH VS Jericho.
By the the way did ou guys catch Stephanie in the Referee Outfit. Man! she was hot.

[langden alger]

it's gonna be pretty hard to screw up wrestlemaina this year..we're probably gonna see alot of dream matches in there..one of them hopefully being scott hall and austin. i have a feeling that the rock hogan match is gonna surprise everyone..most people are probably expecting a snore fest, but i really think they might give us a good match..if hhh jericho is anything like they're last man standing match, then we should get a really good main event..yeah it'll be a diff pacing than a last man standing style, but we should syill get a really good match as long as hhh is in there...i don't know what to make of the undertaker flair match yet...probably just a set-up to put either flair or taker into the nwo as the big wrestlemainia shocker..

as far as the nwo being washed up dx wanna be bullies..well, lets not forget first off that dx was the wanna be wwf version nwo..the nwo are a bunch of cliche biker bar bullies and that's what makes them funny as heck...the nwo invasion is about a zillion times better than the wcw'ecw invasion angle..last night proved that...what they did to the rock is just like the good old ratings battle days of wwf vs. wcw, were you always had something intense, funny and brutal going on...this is the kind of spark that the wwf needed for a long time in my opinion. there's still some classic names that are missing from the puzzle..foley, bret, shawn etc....alot of them are probably gone for good...but the pot is just about full once more..i think right now it's really good to become a wrestling fan again.