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Space Cadet
10-13-2007, 02:37 PM
Today is the last new episode for Bleach for a while. The series goes on a break. Next week, Death Note will take it's midnight slot. We don't know when new episodes will start up.

Also, we get a new OP and ED tonight.:)

veemonjosh
10-13-2007, 02:40 PM
Last round of drinks for Club Bleach.... :sad:

Discuss...

Space Cadet
10-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Instead of deleting the post, I decided to merge the two, since it is Bleach's first break and all.

Rolling Cloud
10-13-2007, 02:46 PM
Ooh! Mergy Bleach threads! :O

Now, what I'm confused about is where this episode will end, since it was an hour-long special with 53 originally.

Hyper Shadow X
10-13-2007, 03:13 PM
It will most likely end once the fight is over.

Neo Ultra Mike
10-13-2007, 03:47 PM
That is where it seemed like the break in the two "episodes" were in the hour special. Still though, it's a pretty cruddy place to end things. I really, really wish they could of just screwed the 52 episode rule and have given us to at least say... 54. Then people would not feel as the show going on break as they will now. Not that this isn't a good episode though since I think it's pretty well done. Just a lousy place to stop things. I mean even in Japan they aired 52 with this so they knew even waiting a week was bad, let alone... whoever knows how many months till the new season starts up.

Oh well at least we'll see how they handle Opening 3/Ending 5 anyway.

Beat
10-13-2007, 03:51 PM
This is of course, IF they renew Bleach. Adult Swim still hasn't committed nor have they been given reason to.

Don_East
10-13-2007, 04:22 PM
This is of course, IF they renew Bleach. Adult Swim still hasn't committed nor have they been given reason to.
Do you ever get tired of being pessimistic?

Beat
10-13-2007, 04:32 PM
Adult Swim doesn't really give you much of a reason to be optimistic in regards to scheduling.

RockmanDash
10-13-2007, 04:39 PM
Well this stinks Bleach was one of the only shows I actually watched on Adult swim on Saturday.

Hopefully Death Note will be good(Never watched it or read about it before so I cant say why people like it yet :sweat:)

I am sure Adult Swim will renew Bleach it would be a very dumb move on their part.

Don_East
10-13-2007, 04:49 PM
Adult Swim doesn't really give you much of a reason to be optimistic in regards to scheduling.
When has it ever been in this post-2004 era?

bigdeath
10-13-2007, 05:19 PM
At least we get to hear that great OP. :anime:

J'onn J'onzz
10-13-2007, 06:05 PM
Adult Swim doesn't really give you much of a reason to be optimistic in regards to scheduling.Really... they didn't buy more Lupin. They didn't buy more Case Closed. What anime HAVE they bought more of? InuYasha is it as far as I remember. I guess Bleach is fairly similar to InuYasha, but InuYasha had the benefit of weekday premiers, most of the time, which Bleach doesn't.

Space Cadet
10-13-2007, 06:09 PM
Really... they didn't buy more Lupin. They didn't buy more Case Closed. What anime HAVE they bought more of? InuYasha is it as far as I remember. I guess Bleach is fairly similar to InuYasha, but at least stuff happened in InuYasha. Maybe not much plot advancing stuff, but there were less pointless flashback episodes. Plus, InuYasha had the benefit of weekday premiers, most of the time, which Bleach doesn't.

Well, more Shin-Chan is coming.

J'onn J'onzz
10-13-2007, 06:12 PM
Well, more Shin-Chan is coming.Ah, right, Shin-Chan. Another weekday anime that got renewed. I know weekday anime didn't really work well in 2003 when there was no AS on Saturdays, but other than then, it seems to be working pretty well with long running series. Less time between episodes.

sikvod00
10-13-2007, 08:34 PM
Question:
Can someone tell me the name of the song being played when Byakuya whips out his Bankai and destroys Rengi?

Novapocalypse
10-13-2007, 08:56 PM
Fullmetal was renewed.

Anyway,this is possibly our last week this year with Ichigo and friends.So to celebrate Season 1's end I bought a BLEACH poster from Wal-Mart last night!:D

XOMiss_Samantha
10-13-2007, 09:47 PM
Kyaaaaa one of my favorite episodes. that makes me completely wanna smack Byakuya for being a bastard and a half
Renjiiii. Kick some ass, boy.

If Bleach doesn't come back I'm going to write 5,000 angry fangirl letters. And nobody likes an angry fangirl letter.

Paul_Cousins
10-13-2007, 10:08 PM
Today is the last new episode for Bleach for a while. The series goes on a break. Next week, Death Note will take it's midnight slot. We don't know when new episodes will start up.

Also, we get a new OP and ED tonight.:)From what I hear Death Note is a love or hate type series.

Leaving a series with a unfinished storyline and switching to a much dark series to replace it is not a wise marketing move.

Space Cadet
10-13-2007, 10:17 PM
From what I hear Death Note is a love or hate type series.

Leaving a series with a unfinished storyline and switching to a much dark series to replace it is not a wise marketing move.

Well, we don't know why they're stopping, but as long as AS promotes the change, I think things will be fine.

Paul_Cousins
10-13-2007, 10:45 PM
Well, we don't know why they're stopping, but as long as AS promotes the change, I think things will be fine.I am just hoping is they are stopping to let Viz catch up on Dubbing. I just checked amazon, and Bleach Volume 7 (Ep 25 - Ep 28) comes out Nov 27. So this could just be a case of Viz not having any more Dubs of Bleach ready for Adult Swim.

Kyuss
10-13-2007, 11:33 PM
*is willing to bet that Bleach will return once they get up to episode 100+* After all there's still this arc and those other guys...which we haven't seen.

Don_East
10-13-2007, 11:59 PM
New Op!

Classic Speedy
10-14-2007, 12:00 AM
Oh thank heavens. I was getting so sick of "D-tecnolife". Already I'm liking this opening a LOT more. Seems more badass.

Ishtar
10-14-2007, 12:00 AM
The new opening is great, Ichirin no Hana!

Kitschensyngk
10-14-2007, 12:00 AM
Nope. Sorry. First opening's still my favorite.

He ain't heavy, he's Rukia's brother.

Commence horrendously lopsided battle sequence.

That is one mean snake.

And another section of the Seireitei needs remodeling.

And Renji explodes in a crimson geyser.

"You wanna know the difference between you and me?... I make this look GOOD."

This may sting for a few seconds. After that it will leave you in horrible agonizing pain.

Sayonara Bleach. Konnichi-wa Death Note.

RockmanDash
10-14-2007, 12:01 AM
Shoot I missed the opening! Well their is always the re run in the next.. 3 hours.....:sweat:

kid rabbit
10-14-2007, 12:07 AM
the best bleach op ever is finnallly here

LordTerminal
10-14-2007, 12:07 AM
That's a big, bone dragon thing.....

Paul_Cousins
10-14-2007, 12:07 AM
Renji's got a new PINK fur coat. ;)

KuwabaraTheMan
10-14-2007, 12:08 AM
Hihiou Zabimaru!

Go Renji, go!

His bankai is so sweet.

Rolling Cloud
10-14-2007, 12:09 AM
Renji's bankai is soo cool!

KuwabaraTheMan
10-14-2007, 12:11 AM
"Does that surprise you, Captain?"

"What do you know, I got you down on your knee. And now I'm going to defeat you."

Renji is so awesome.

bigdeath
10-14-2007, 12:12 AM
I love this OP. I got to my tv just when it started. :anime: And we get this great fight as a send of till new eppys of blech come. I love that look on the captains face. :evil:

Paul_Cousins
10-14-2007, 12:12 AM
Hihiou Zabimaru!

Go Renji, go!

His bankai is so sweet.True. And it nice to see Captain Kuchiki taken down a notch. The surprise shown in his eyes was a nice touch.

Don_East
10-14-2007, 12:13 AM
Byakuya is a arrogant jerk and I'm glad his overconfidence is getting the best of him.

And of course the jerk has to come out on top with his pillars of blades.

RockmanDash
10-14-2007, 12:17 AM
Wow poor Renji that must of been really really really really painful:eek:

LordTerminal
10-14-2007, 12:17 AM
OUCH! That. had. to. hurt......BADLY! And I don't easily cringe.

Space Cadet
10-14-2007, 12:17 AM
Oh my, all that blood from Renji. No wonder it's TV-14-V.

KuwabaraTheMan
10-14-2007, 12:17 AM
Senbonzakura Kageyoshi

And Renji goes down! That was brutal.

Ishtar
10-14-2007, 12:18 AM
God, Byakuya is such a bastard. Poor Renji.:crying:

Rolling Cloud
10-14-2007, 12:18 AM
Scatter, Senbonzakura Kageyoshi.

Poor Renji. :(

Don_East
10-14-2007, 12:19 AM
Hey Byakura, Itachi Uchiha called, he wants his "arrogant, more powerful older brother of a main character" personality back.

RockmanDash
10-14-2007, 12:20 AM
Hey Byakura, Itachi Uchiha called, he wants his "arrogant more powerful older brother of a main character" personality back.

Makes me wonder who would win Byakura or Itachi xD

Space Cadet
10-14-2007, 12:21 AM
Hey Byakura, Itachi Uchiha called, he wants his "arrogant, jerkoff, more powerful older brother of a main character" personality back.

You can also add Sesshomaru to that as well.

Hyper Shadow X
10-14-2007, 12:21 AM
I liked the long haired Renji at the end of this eppy.

Ishtar
10-14-2007, 12:22 AM
Makes me wonder who would win Byakura or Itachi xD
They and Bellamy should join a club. >_>

KuwabaraTheMan
10-14-2007, 12:23 AM
'To my self'?

What the hell

It should be 'To my soul!'

Dammit, that completely ruined the mood changing such a powerful line.

LordTerminal
10-14-2007, 12:23 AM
You can also add Sesshomaru to that as well.

And a hell of a lot of other anime viilains as well.

Damn, he stabbed him and yet his sword broke apart.

Oh god, just kill Byakkuya now. He has it coming. I don't care if his personality changes later on, he's a jackass. Through and through.

Rolling Cloud
10-14-2007, 12:25 AM
Omg, I <3 this ending song

FULL ending 5, HELL yeah

No Kon guide, meh

Captain Highwind
10-14-2007, 12:25 AM
Ooh!

Life!

I just couldn't remember what ending was next. How pleasantly surprising.

Next week--a really cool scene with Gin.

Anyone00
10-14-2007, 12:26 AM
Blood: The average anime character's body contains 47 gallons of it. (http://www.geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/bloodors.html)

KuwabaraTheMan
10-14-2007, 12:26 AM
Next week--a really cool scene with Gin.

Next week: Death Note

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RockmanDash
10-14-2007, 12:27 AM
Actually Mr.Highwind Bleach has not been renewed yet so expect no new episodes until next year:sweat:

Majin_Megabyte
10-14-2007, 12:27 AM
Booo!!! No Shingami Cup Golden!!

bigdeath
10-14-2007, 12:28 AM
It wil be a while but that next blech fight is one of the best. This sucks, they end bleach right when a string of great fights happen. :crying:

Ishtar
10-14-2007, 12:28 AM
Evil place for AS to stop airing new episodes!

RockmanDash
10-14-2007, 12:28 AM
=( Man I want to see the rest of Kenpatchi's fight =( I dont want to wait another year! Yet if I look at the subs I will just feel meh >_>

sikvod00
10-14-2007, 12:29 AM
Hate Byakuya, LOVE his Bankai. Can anyone tell me the name of the song that played when he released it?

Don_East
10-14-2007, 12:30 AM
Well, here's hoping Death Note is inferior in ratings to Bleach.

Captain Highwind
10-14-2007, 12:30 AM
Wait, what is this "year" business?

New episodes in January, or an entire year from now?

I am out of touch with the Internet.

RockmanDash
10-14-2007, 12:30 AM
Well, here's hoping Death Note is inferior in ratings to Bleach.

Here hopes that I like Death note so much that I will forget about Bleach for a while:sweat:

And as for your question Mr.Highwind its like Inuyasha new episodes time I guess. I would say March maybe?

Paul_Cousins
10-14-2007, 12:31 AM
Hey Byakura, Itachi Uchiha called, he wants his "arrogant, more powerful older brother of a main character" personality back.LOL!! And the fact that after all the punishment, Renji was still able to pull his sword back together and stand back up for one final straight forward attack, showed how much of a bad*** he is.

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Oh my, all that blood from Renji. No wonder it's TV-14-V.

Eh it's not as bloody as some I can think of off hand. Like Jin's fight with Mukuro, now that was bloody.

Don,

I hope not. I want both shows. *does give Don points for his Itachi Uchiha quip* Now that would be an interesting fight, a Soul Reaper versus a Sharingun master.

RockmanDash
10-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Hey Byakura, Itachi Uchiha called, he wants his "arrogant, more powerful older brother of a main character" personality back.

You no what I am putting that in my sig xD

Rolling Cloud
10-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Wait, what is this year business?

New episodes in January, or an entire year from now?

AS hasn't decided on whether or not to renew Bleach after this episode. it may take a year or so, according to some people here

Space Cadet
10-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Well, here's hoping Death Note is inferior in ratings to Bleach.


Here's hoping Death Note does well and Bleach gets renewed.;)

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 12:34 AM
Here's hoping Death Note does well and Bleach gets renewed.;)

That's what I wish for too. Maybe then we'll get 11:30 back from Comedy.

veemonjosh
10-14-2007, 12:42 AM
You know, since Futurama isn't going to air after this year, we COULD potentially get an 11PM slot for Bleach, so then it'd be immediately following Toonami.

Everybody wins. :D

Prof Ultimate
10-14-2007, 12:49 AM
I think I'm going to need to be spoilered here. This show (and others) have always featured horrible, gruesome death matches, and the loser winds up on the ground death, only to pop up later on in the series. So, is Renji really death for good, or not? :confused::confused::confused: I can't wait til whenever the show returns....

Man, I really wanted that snobbish prick (Rukia's brother) to at least get his butt licked, but noooo, Mister Untouchable only got a scratch. :mad:

Don_East
10-14-2007, 12:50 AM
You know, since Futurama isn't going to air after this year, we COULD potentially get an 11PM slot for Bleach, so then it'd be immediately following Toonami.

Everybody wins. :D
No, they're too busy showing proven ratings duds to be Futurama's successor. But still, Bleach is most likely to get picked up for another 52 episodes. I'm with the "AS is just letting VIZ go ahead in episodes" crowd.

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 12:56 AM
Professor,

I'd imagine that killing off Renji would annoy many people. So that coupled with my own foresight says no.

Don,

I'd hardly call Boondocks a dud, but I do agree they aren't doing Toonami (or the AS public) many favors with the constant repeat of Futurama.

If this keeps up, Comedy Central won't need it.

XOMiss_Samantha
10-14-2007, 01:00 AM
What an absolutely HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE episode to stop. They couldn't wait just a few more weeks!? Or at least till the end of the arc!! Just not there! I hate seeing my Renji go down like that.:crying::crying::crying: Bah. He's so honorable and determined. But I'm glad Byakuya finally gave him a some props at the end. hmph.
This is the only episode out the 100+ of Bleach where I really want to smack him.

Anyways, I never really liked that OP very much, but it is kinda catchy I guess.
ho hum. Next week is DN...and not Bleach.../mopey

silverfox1027
10-14-2007, 01:10 AM
Ah Byakuya and Renji, my two favorite characters. :anime: I love Byakuya's bankai, it's so gorgeous. Only Byakuya is capable of making a bunch of sakura petals badass.

Oh, and I really hate this OP. I'm surprised so many people like it. It's the start of the downfall of Bleach music, IMO.

I feel sorry for the Bleach first-timers...what a horrible place to stop. :eek:

Oh well, next week is DEATH NOTE!!!!! :D I like it a lot better than Bleach, so huzzah! Hopefully the ratings are better, too.

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 01:10 AM
Sam,

Just a suggestion, perhaps you can have someone write a Death Note with Byakuya's name on it.

In any case, it's not a good place to stop but probably necessary to let Viz get the dub up into the 100s. After all, they still have Naruto on their plate.

Silver,

I'm falling along the belief that Viz is trying to catch up/dub more episodes for AS.

PickHut
10-14-2007, 01:13 AM
Eh... OP was pretty average. The episode itself was pretty nice with the Renji/Byakuya fight. It was neat watching Renji giving it all he got, despite knowing he was gonna lose in the end (which is really starting to get old now... come on, at least have the "good guys" get one solid victory). Hmm... next episode looks a like half flashback/half stretch one. And I'd have to wait to watch it.

XOMiss_Samantha
10-14-2007, 01:15 AM
Sam,

Just a suggestion, perhaps you can have someone write a Death Note with Byakuya's name on it.

nuuuu. I could never do that! Byakuya is wonderful <3 Just sometimes... not so wonderful...
I'd rather write Mayuri. He deserves it.

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 01:21 AM
Sam,

Fine. But I thought you might just want a Death Note on Byakuya for his actions.

*only comments that the OP's lead singer sounds like she was trying to audition for lead in Archenemy...*

XOMiss_Samantha
10-14-2007, 01:25 AM
*only comments that the OP's lead singer sounds like she was trying to audition for lead in Archenemy...*

Speaking of which...at the end when the singer started randomly screaming it reminded me of the second OP for Deathnote alot.

which is probably why I don't really care for either

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 01:32 AM
See I happen to like the screeching of women. It reminds me of home.

Regardless, to each their own.

Rolling Cloud
10-14-2007, 01:34 AM
See I happen to like the screeching of women. It reminds me of home.

Regardless, to each their own.

It was a guy screaming the end of the OP, in case you didn't know

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 01:35 AM
Well fine, the screams of humanity in torment. Besides if it was a guy singing, didn't sound like it towards the end.

Ishtar
10-14-2007, 01:47 AM
Speaking of which...at the end when the singer started randomly screaming it reminded me of the second OP for Deathnote alot.

I thought the same thing. It's very odd and random. I don't like a lot of metal music, though.

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 01:48 AM
Ishtar,

You should try your hand at power metal, like Manowar or DragonForce. I'd highly recommend DragonForce.

Ishtar
10-14-2007, 02:04 AM
Ishtar,

You should try your hand at power metal, like Manowar or DragonForce. I'd highly recommend DragonForce.
Uhm, do I even seem like a guitarist, and what in the worls is Manowar or DragonForce? O_O

Anyway, as much as it pisses me off Bleach is being put on hiatus for a while, I look forward to Death Note.

FireStarterLE
10-14-2007, 02:09 AM
After Byakuya's bankai hit Renji, it looked to me like Renji kinda exploded

Silly Adult Swim, what's the point in leaving the preview in? It gets people's hopes up plus by the time it returns no one will have remembered what the episode was supposed to have been about anyways

*i wonder if [AS] shows Death Note's second intro?

XOMiss_Samantha
10-14-2007, 02:19 AM
After Byakuya's bankai hit Renji, it looked to me like Renji kinda exploded

hahaha. I always think that =[ =[


*i wonder if [AS] shows Death Note's second intro?If they don't, they might as well just keep the first OP. The second is stuffed with curses, despite them being kinda hard to understand with all the pointless screaming and groaning. Save the viewers alot of pain, too >_>

Kyuss
10-14-2007, 02:32 AM
Uhm, do I even seem like a guitarist, and what in the worls is Manowar or DragonForce? O_O

Bands that I think you'd enjoy. You might not be a guitarist, but I'm sure you'd appreciate the sounds.

Sam,

Well considering that most people can't understand what Lamb of God's lead singer, Randy Blythe, says (and I consider him a very good vocalist), there's no reason they couldn't leave it in. Especially if it in Japanese, not English.

1 of 3
10-14-2007, 02:45 AM
'To my self'?

What the hell

It should be 'To my soul!'

Dammit, that completely ruined the mood changing such a powerful line.

I think either works

Fresh V
10-14-2007, 03:42 AM
Well, so long, Bleach. I hope to see you again on AS soon. But in the meantime, Death Note will be friggin' awesome.

Well fine, the screams of humanity in torment. Besides if it was a guy singing, didn't sound like it towards the end.
No, a woman sings the song. The guy just did the screaming at the end.

Dark Moridin
10-14-2007, 05:01 AM
Ok, not a big critic of OP's and ED's, but I think I will have to watch this again, if, for nothing else, that last shot of Icigo, where his face looked like it turned into a ma.....SHHHHHHHHH

the Renji and Byakuya fight was very nice. I liked how Renji seemed to have every move scouted. How's that for being an understudy, "I have studied your moves, and am not fast enough to counter them". I had to admit, Renji seemed to have done his homework. It even made 'Stick n da mud' widen his eyes. But at the end, poor Renji got so OWNED (I refuse to be an internet word user just to use the word). Watching Renji look on with the 'OH $H!T" look on his face was priceless. in fact, that whole scene was very well done. From Byakuya explaining what he was doing as he shoved electric playing cards in Renji to hold him, to the whole entrance of all those swords. And then when you saw him standing in the aisle of swords, giving them perspective, I had the same 'OH $H!T' thought going thru my head that Renji did.

But after all that, Renji gets up, and connects with Icigo's conviction to actually stab that arrogant S.O.B.

And we find that Byakuya has a power similar to Captain Kenny, stopping blades from cutting him. Must suck....

And speaking of Kenny, I am very pissed that we didn't get to even see a peek of his fight. Would have preferred that than peeks at Ichigo.
oh well, someone please find out when or if this gets renewed, so I know how I have to proceed to at least see the rest of this arc.

anime_guru
10-14-2007, 09:02 AM
ah...bleach had an interesting run on here. Still my favorite episode of the series (so far) is episode 10...don kanonji....bwahahahahahahahahahaha

As far as this episode goes-high and mighty color's ichirin no hana...great song-love the full song, but this will do just fine...
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the overall effect of the episode and the imagery used to convey the societal differences (and power differences) between Byakuya and Renji is fully explored in much of their dialog. We get a hint of Byakuya's personality here and it isn't one that says OMG I hate this person. On the contrary, actually it is one of a person that was born into a status he had to live at all of his life. He was instilled on values of respect v. inferiority (assumed by his parents before him) and he is made to act like a confucian even in these times. In many respects, he has every right to be cocky because he has gone through it all-but that doesn't mean he is a great guy and wins the person of the year prize...because he doesn't LOL.
Renji does alright in this episode but really (minor dub gripe) the actors portraying Renji and Byakuya take away from the difference in status, even in subtle dialect differences and inflections (topped off with vernacular of course) and that really ruined a powerful scene in bleach-Renji's showing of his Bankai and his gruesome defeat and almost death. You really felt bad for Renji and I think Ichimaru Gin coming at the end of the episode was icing on the cake. Overall...what to give this episode? Well I won't judge on VAing...7.5/10
one huge negative for me was lumping Ichigo in the episode. I like him I know he is learning bankai still, but this was renji's time to shine. Even if it was for a little bit, to try and show that even enemies have a central front I think fell apart in this episode. I want renji to shine for once...I think that is my largest gripe of the episode...
hihio zabimaru kicks major ***** later on thankfully...
well here's to Ichigo's bankai in the next few episodes, Kenpachi's fights between two captains, and of course the rest of the fights...next season...
Till then...
Time to listen to the world by nightmare in anticipation for the dub of DEATHNOTE

Katsumara
10-14-2007, 09:14 AM
Pretty good episode. Action packed and all that. Byakuya is really mean sometimes, but his strong, firm attitude wins out. Renji just got too full of himself. "Zomg I have bankai, now I ownz joo, yus."

Anyway.. "Ichirin no Hana" is alright, but it's one of my least favorite High and Mighty Color openings. "Pride" from Gundam Seed Destiny is probably my favorite. D: I love "Live" though. Anyway.. see you around Bleach. Guess I'm down to watching nothing on [as] now. :(

laactor101
10-14-2007, 12:02 PM
So Mad that I missed it

anime_guru
10-14-2007, 12:26 PM
Pretty good episode. Action packed and all that. Byakuya is really mean sometimes, but his strong, firm attitude wins out. Renji just got too full of himself. "Zomg I have bankai, now I ownz joo, yus."

Anyway.. "Ichirin no Hana" is alright, but it's one of my least favorite High and Mighty Color openings. "Pride" from Gundam Seed Destiny is probably my favorite. D: I love "Live" though. Anyway.. see you around Bleach. Guess I'm down to watching nothing on [as] now. :(
I was just thinking about that on my way home...is Ichirin no Hana the best bleach opening...then I realized
alones > ichirin no hana
what was unique in comparing the two voice acting styles (japanese v. american) renji wasn't so much cocky as he was determined and trying to prove he was on the level of his captain. Renji here really sounded childish...

XOMiss_Samantha
10-14-2007, 12:32 PM
I was just thinking about that on my way home...is Ichirin no Hana the best bleach opening...then I realized
alones > ichirin no hana


Tonight Tonight Tonight> all

just sayin
>_>

Ishtar
10-14-2007, 12:35 PM
Tonight Tonight Tonight> all

just sayin
>_>
Agreed. Although, D-Tecnolife comes pretty close.

Andrew T. Hingson
10-14-2007, 01:06 PM
Hmm... I somehow remember this episode being more brutal... Hmm maybe I'm just getting numb to that kind of massive violence. But I do believe I never expected it to reach TV-MA, but certainly TV-14-V.

Renji was awesome in this episode but unfortunately nothing much came of it.

Rolling Cloud
10-14-2007, 02:02 PM
Silly Adult Swim, what's the point in leaving the preview in? It gets people's hopes up plus by the time it returns no one will have remembered what the the episode was supposed to have been about anyways

It's not Adult Swim's fault..the preview was included on the DVD.


hahaha. I always think that =[ =[
If they don't, they might as well just keep the first OP. The second is stuffed with curses, despite them being kinda hard to understand with all the pointless screaming and groaning. Save the viewers alot of pain, too >_>

But, if we lose the 2nd Opening, we lose the 2nd ending which is better. D:

bigdeath
10-14-2007, 03:00 PM
I'm so happy that that "happy" ending song is gone! :D

silvanoir
10-14-2007, 03:21 PM
so nice, I watched it twice. :D

-Love the new opening. fits the situation they are in. Parts I liked best were Ichigo dissolving into his hollow-self, and the end where Ichi and Rukia are walking down he street on a sunny day, but the Menos rip open the sky and the song turns "metal". oh, and that they spoil buckethead's identity in the beginning ;)

- The ending wasn't much different from "Happy People" visually but had a slightly better song.

- The Renji/ Byakuya fight. dramatic, fitting music, and ten different kinds of badass. I liked how they animated Zabimaru's Bankai form to move very snake-like, and how out of control it was, smashing into columns all over the place. When Renji first showed up in the anime, to take Rukia back, I really hated him. But now, that he's following his heart instead of the rules, I've grown to love him as a character. Byakuya's still cold-hearted, in my opinion (even though I've read the rest of this arc in the manga... he never redeems himself for me.)

- though it still amuses me whenever Renji loses in a fight, his hair flies everywhere. makes me want to draw a shampoo commercial parody. well instead, have this that I drew. http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/264/4/3/Bleach__Byakuyas_sword_by_silvanoir.jpg <--- If Renji's sword's spirit is a monkey/snake, and Ichigo's is that rockstar looking guy, what's Byakuya's... this is my theory ;)

Malex
10-14-2007, 04:09 PM
TIME! NOTICE THAT! YOU SHOULD NOTICE THAT! NOTICE THAT THERE'S NO OTHER!

HIGH and MIGHTY COLOR's Ichirin no Hana for the win.

I found this episode to be fitting for a cliffhanger hiatus since we have Renji down, Rukia doing the Dead Man's walk, and Ichigo still has not achieved his bankai. While Kenpachi's fight with Tousen and Komamura was ignored, we get to finally see Hihou Zabimaru and Senbozakura Kageyoshi in action. It makes one wonder what Ichigo's bankai would be. A giant crescent blade? An alternate dimension created by a huge cloak that gives Ichigo psycho powers? A big cleaver? We shall see what happens eventually.

So next week we get to see the masterpiece that is Death Note where shinigami don't wear black kimonos but eat red apples.

Luna
10-14-2007, 10:07 PM
I liked the new opening/song....though at this point,I'm not sure if I like it better than the second opening/song...though the new ending song is way better than "Happy People"....

This episode was kinda sad for me.....Renji's my favorite Bleach character,and though he was determined to beat Byakuya and save Rukia,he still failed (though he does eventually get a hit on Byakuya in the end)....both characters Bankai looked really awesome....and I still really hate Byakuya at this point in the story...

I wish they didn't have to stop running the Bleach anime.....though since I read the manga,I already know essentially what's going to happen (if anyone really wants to know,the events of this episode are in volume 17,and the English manga volumes are up to 21,and past the "Soul Society" arc)...

I'm looking forward to the Death Note anime,since I loved the manga...

Captain Highwind
10-14-2007, 11:32 PM
So next week we get to see the masterpiece that is Death Note where shinigami don't wear black kimonos but eat red apples.

"Jooshy!"

Master Moron
10-15-2007, 01:07 AM
'To my self'?

What the hell

It should be 'To my soul!'

Dammit, that completely ruined the mood changing such a powerful line.

Okay, I haven't seen much of the Japanese version, but "A promise to my soul" just sounds corny to me. I think "A promise to myself" works much better.

I'm in the camp that doesn't really care for the new opening. I liked the new ending, though. Much better than Happy People.

RockmanDash
10-15-2007, 01:48 AM
I think the new opening is great =D but man the episodes after this better be worth the wait.. >_> I am getting very tempted these days looking at subs

Neo Ultra Mike
10-15-2007, 02:18 AM
Now you all know why this is a bad place to end this run of Bleach? I mean really, bad enough we don't find out if Ichigo made Bankai (It seems pretty obvious that he will but we got nothing form that part besides a couple of scenes of training/comparison to Renji's plot), part enough we don't know if Renji will survive, or what Gin's doing near Ruika or anything like that. All we do know is that it seems things are still moving on schedule for Ruika's death and now Renji won't be in any position to stop that. Guess we also know about the new opening (I know some of you don't like it but it's my friend's favorite opening. Myself I'm partial to opening two and four more then three, which is decent but not the best), and the ending (in truth I still dislike the ending, but keeping it in full is good and at least a good sign about ending six if they wind up dubbing more Bleach for AS) as well as if Renji was able to surpass Byuakuya. Short answer: No. However he did show off a pretty cool brand new Bankai and was able to advance enough to suprirse Byaukaua/get him on one knee and force the captain to bring out his Bankai. Which is... quite painful looking (seriously I really winched seeing all that blood coming from Renji when I first saw this episode). Pretty sad how it ends too: Renji failing to give up all those times and bleeding all over with only minorly sratching Byaukuya. Obviously it's going to be up to Ichigo to give this guy a good piece of his sword, but when and where he'll do this is defintley something we'll have to find out at a later time. I think this is a really good episode, but I have some sour feelings towards it. Mainly for it being the ending ep of the dub season. Which isn't the episode's fault but still it's probably the only big sour point I have about this ep.

bigdeath
10-15-2007, 07:54 AM
Now you all know why this is a bad place to end this run of Bleach? I mean really, bad enough we don't find out if Ichigo made Bankai (It seems pretty obvious that he will but we got nothing form that part besides a couple of scenes of training/comparison to Renji's plot), part enough we don't know if Renji will survive, or what Gin's doing near Ruika or anything like that. All we do know is that it seems things are still moving on schedule for Ruika's death and now Renji won't be in any position to stop that. Guess we also know about the new opening (I know some of you don't like it but it's my friend's favorite opening. Myself I'm partial to opening two and four more then three, which is decent but not the best), and the ending (in truth I still dislike the ending, but keeping it in full is good and at least a good sign about ending six if they wind up dubbing more Bleach for AS) as well as if Renji was able to surpass Byuakuya. Short answer: No. However he did show off a pretty cool brand new Bankai and was able to advance enough to suprirse Byaukaua/get him on one knee and force the captain to bring out his Bankai. Which is... quite painful looking (seriously I really winched seeing all that blood coming from Renji when I first saw this episode). Pretty sad how it ends too: Renji failing to give up all those times and bleeding all over with only minorly sratching Byaukuya. Obviously it's going to be up to Ichigo to give this guy a good piece of his sword, but when and where he'll do this is defintley something we'll have to find out at a later time. I think this is a really good episode, but I have some sour feelings towards it. Mainly for it being the ending ep of the dub season. Which isn't the episode's fault but still it's probably the only big sour point I have about this ep.

Oooooooooh, the evil that is the cliff hanger. :mad:

email2003
10-15-2007, 10:36 AM
Damn! This what I love about Bleach, these awesome, bloody fights. ;)

Renji was cool in this battle with Byakuya but the poor guy was still defeated. :crying: Reminded me when Vegeta fought Frieza on Namek where Vegeta thought he was strong enough to beat Frieza but wasn't.

And boooooo to Adult Swim for leaving Bleach at this point of the series to cut away for a while. This so reminds me also what happen to DBZ when they cut away during a saga/arc in the series. I'm willing to bet that the DVD's are gonna surpass the episode count from the TV episodes.

Death Note better be good enough to distract me till Bleach gets renewed.

Katsumara
10-15-2007, 11:46 AM
>.> "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" was okay, but I like "Alones" and "Rolling Star" more. D:

Captain Highwind
10-15-2007, 12:16 PM
Sheesh, that TV-14-V rating covered up half the faces in the opening.

bklien
10-17-2007, 05:36 PM
Really... they didn't buy more Lupin. They didn't buy more Case Closed. What anime HAVE they bought more of? InuYasha is it as far as I remember. I guess Bleach is fairly similar to InuYasha, but InuYasha had the benefit of weekday premiers, most of the time, which Bleach doesn't.
Why don't they premiere Bleach where the rest of the anime was on weekdays? Then, interest would grow too far for AS to take it off.

Captain Highwind
10-17-2007, 07:05 PM
So was that why Inuyasha took month-long breaks, because they had to keep renewing it?

I thought it was just a seasonal thing.

If that's the case here, I'm not worried.

laactor101
10-18-2007, 08:10 PM
>.> "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" was okay, but I like "Alones" and "Rolling Star" more. D:
Hey be quiet some of these people haven't watched those episodes yet!

Rolling Cloud
10-18-2007, 08:15 PM
Hey be quiet some of these people haven't watched those episodes yet!

The names of openings aren't really spoilers! :sweat:

Freedom Fighter
10-20-2007, 06:09 PM
Well, that's to be expected. Renji goes to take on Byakuya on his own and promptly gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter. Geese... and I liked the guy, too. Rukia's brother still made that look way too easy.

Ooh, love the way it ends, though. Rukia being led to her execution, and she runs into the smirking Ichimaru. Curse you, smirking guy!

"Renji, Oath of the Soul! Death Match with Byakuya": 3.5/5.

RAINMAN
10-21-2007, 04:22 AM
Man, what a way to leave us in limbo. I hope bleach is not gone for long. I really like this series and the characters. I`am glad happy people is long gone. That song never fit the series. For years I notice lots of action shows end whit songs that don`t fit the mood or mindset of series.

Paul_Cousins
10-22-2007, 05:48 AM
Man, what a way to leave us in limbo. I hope bleach is not gone for long.I agree. I hope Bleach comes back soon.

XOMiss_Samantha
10-22-2007, 06:16 AM
I agree. I hope Bleach comes back soon.

Me too, but I really think it will. FMA took a break right after episode 25, so I'm sure Bleach is only doing the same. Maybe it'll take Blood+'s spot once it ends?

Captain Highwind
10-22-2007, 12:48 PM
Me too, but I really think it will. FMA took a break right after episode 25, so I'm sure Bleach is only doing the same. Maybe it'll take Blood+'s spot once it ends?

At least it was a decent spot to take a break; a good old smackdown. A lot of the episodes beforehand spent too time on introductions to really remember so many months from now. Just remember that last scene with Gin and Rukia.

email2003
10-22-2007, 01:27 PM
Me too, but I really think it will. FMA took a break right after episode 25, so I'm sure Bleach is only doing the same. Maybe it'll take Blood+'s spot once it ends?
Lets not forget Inuyasha did the same thing too! They would air 20-35 new episodes then leave for a break like 2-4 months.

Ishtar
10-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Me too, but I really think it will. FMA took a break right after episode 25, so I'm sure Bleach is only doing the same. Maybe it'll take Blood+'s spot once it ends?
You know what I think they should do? Instead of having it return to Saturdays, have weekday night premieres like maybe next spring, and that would be a good way to end the Soul Society arc and catch up so we don't fall too behind when Bleach would eventually return to Saturdays.

FireStarterLE
10-22-2007, 03:46 PM
If they go to Mon-Fri new episode premiers most people would probably prefer they start doing that during the Bount filler arc. If they do it during Bleach's best arc so far, viewers might not be able to watch it if they have to wake up early the next morning for whatever reasons.

Plus where they are right now it's good to have that "I can't wait to see what happens next saturday" feeling

XOMiss_Samantha
10-22-2007, 03:52 PM
If they go to Mon-Fri new episode premiers most people would probably prefer they start doing that during the Bount filler arc. If they do it during Bleach's best arc so far, viewers might not be able to watch it if they have to wake up early the next morning for whatever reasons.

yes. Filler arc would work best Mon-Fri because they aren't so crucial to the plot that if you miss and episode you'll be screwed. The thing about premiers during the week though, is that most of us have school and need to get up early. It would probably reduce alot of the teenage viewers who like their sleep (myself) if it left Saturdays.

Ishtar
10-22-2007, 03:58 PM
It would probably reduce alot of the teenage viewers who like their sleep (myself) if it left Saturdays.
True, but there's always means of recording it. I think if they did do that, 12am would be the best possible time.

Space Cadet
10-22-2007, 04:11 PM
It would probably reduce alot of the teenage viewers who like their sleep (myself) if it left Saturdays.

For AS, that's good news.

Paul_Cousins
10-22-2007, 06:40 PM
Me too, but I really think it will. FMA took a break right after episode 25, so I'm sure Bleach is only doing the same. Maybe it'll take Blood+'s spot once it ends?That is possible, Blood Plus is only around 50 episodes long.

kaine23
10-25-2007, 10:02 AM
I for one welcome our new shinigami masters.
:)

shany94a
11-04-2007, 01:57 AM
Here's hoping the Bleach wait won't be too long, I had no idea it was going on hiatus - I'm still waiting for the return of Shin-Chan, maybe he could help Ichigo and company in the Soul Society