Xbox 360 or PS3 [Archive] - toonzone forums

Strollymonster

10-04-2007, 12:22 AM

As of right now, the 360 has more titles of better quality and a better online community than the PS3. However, the 360's also been out for over a year longer and also has known technical issues (ie Red Ring of Death).

The 360 has some good stuff in the pipeline and a pretty darned good current game library (Bioshock, Halo 3, etc) if you like FPS, Sports, and online games. However, since it came out so much earlier, there's the possibility that it'll get replaced within the next couple of years. Whereas, Sony's aiming for the PS3 to have the same longevity that the PS2 has seen (still going strong over 6 years later).

As of right now, I'd say the only console really pulling it's weight in the "console wars" is the 360. It's got the best next-gen experiences available at the most reasonable price. I say this as someone that doesn't own one, but rather has a PS2 and a Wii. The Wii is a great system, but outside of Prime 3 lacks any real good reason to pick one up just yet. That'll change when Galaxy/Brawl comes out, though.

Either way, I'd hold off on buying anything for a month or so. Fall always brings new price cuts and package deals that would be a better value than just buying now.

Tanooki

10-04-2007, 12:39 AM

if you're looking for gaming goodness now? xbox 360

if you're looking towards the future, though, go with the ps3

but, i'd actually follow bcvm22's advice. see what the experts have to say

Tommy Lawson

10-04-2007, 01:45 AM

Either way, I'd hold off on buying anything for a month or so. Fall always brings new price cuts and package deals that would be a better value than just buying now.

I've heard about some major SKU rumors for both the Xbox 360 and PS3 to be announced before the end of this month from the gaming news sites and blogs. The biggest is probably an expected imminent announcement of a $399 PS3 console (http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25958464&part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6180335) with a trade-off - no backwards compatability at all. It is rumored to feature a Spider-man 3 movie Blu-ray disc. It is expected to be announced sometime next week, with many thinking it will be around Oct. 12.

The Xbox 360 is rumored to have the core discontinued in favor of a new replacement model at the same cost- Xbox 360 Arcade (http://kotaku.com/gaming/retail-tales/xbox-360-arcade-system-coming-stateside-this-october-306375.php), featuring 5 Xbox Live Arcade Games, including Pac-man, and also includes a 256 MB memory card and a wireless controller. Also, there were listings on Best Buy's website for Xbox 360 Elites and Premiums with Forza 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance packed within the console box itself according to Kotaku.com (http://kotaku.com/gaming/less-of-a-rumor/best-buy-sort-of-confirm-new-360-bundle-304644.php).

River26

10-04-2007, 02:38 AM

If you choose these games below;

Final Fantasy XIII & Versus XIII
- PS3

The Last Remnant
- You can choose either PS3 or 360. Though the PS3 may look more better ;)

White Knight Story
- PS3

Tekken 6
- PS3

Eternal Sonata
- PS3 (they say that the PS3 rendition will have more features)

Soldner-X (think games like; Gradius, R-Type)
- PS3

Folklore
- PS3

Soul Calibur IV
- personally, I'd choose the PS3 version

JohnCrichton

10-04-2007, 09:19 AM

Get a 360 now for killer titles currently out or out in the very near future.

Wait one or two years, then get a PS3 once it has the killer titles that will land in the future, and be potentially packaged with the Dual Shock 3.

MattThomasM2B

10-04-2007, 03:18 PM

No contest, 360. It strikes PS3 down in every category except J-RPGs. (And most of those will end up defecting to Wii/DS anyway...)

KuwabaraTheMan

10-04-2007, 03:54 PM

You should wait on getting a PS3, but it already has more quality games than the 360 does, despite not having been available for nearly as long.

I wouldn't recommend getting a 360 unless you're a huge fan of FPS. Aside from FPS, the 360 doesn't really offer anything.

Shawn Hopkins

10-04-2007, 04:08 PM

If you look at the two right now you really can't beat the 360. I could count the number of PS3 exclusive releases that are really worth playing right now on one hand and maybe a couple of toes. There are a lot of great games for the 360 now, though.

Maybe the PS3 will take off in the future. The price will probably come down, too, though, so I would get and Xbox now and wait and see what develops with the PS3.

Also, I don't know why people say the 360 doesn't have JRPGs. It has Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Phantasy Star Universe and Enchanted Arms and will be getting Lost Odyssey. Right now the PS3 only has Enchanted Arms, although it will be getting FF games and others and probably eventually be the place to go for them.

And if you like western RPGs you can now get a Oblivion Game of the Year Edition, which is Oblivion and two expansion in one box, and Mass Effect is scheduled to come out for it next month.

tb4000

10-04-2007, 04:20 PM

You should get a Wii. There, I settled it for you.

Tanooki

10-04-2007, 04:37 PM

You should get a Wii. There, I settled it for you.
it is the cheaper system, but if he is going for a system that has a plethora of games for amusement purposes, a 360 is the way to go. they have plenty of exclusive titles and many 3rd party games use the system as one of their platforms

Strollymonster

10-04-2007, 04:44 PM

You should wait on getting a PS3, but it already has more quality games than the 360 does, despite not having been available for nearly as long.

...like what? Maybe Resistance, possibly Virtua Fighter and Folklore is supposed to be good. Meanwhile, the 360's got both Gears of War and Bioshock, two incredibly good original IPs. Then there's a variety of good racing games.

I wouldn't recommend getting a 360 unless you're a huge fan of FPS. Aside from FPS, the 360 doesn't really offer anything. It's true that the majority of the best 360 games are FPS. However, Gears of War is a notable exception, as well as Forza. Mass Effect looks to be quite good, and I think Assassin's Creed will be better with unlockable achievements.

Either way, I think the consensus here is that you should hold off for awhile. Wait for new price cuts/bundles and reviews of the fall blockbusters.

KuwabaraTheMan

10-04-2007, 04:51 PM

Well, for me personally, Mass Effect looks awesome, but not much else on the 360 looks worth buying.

But for someone who likes games like Gears of War, Bioshock, and Halo, they should get a 360. I just know that I wouldn't get more than 1 or 2 games if I had one.

People point out 'the 360 has some J-RPGs', but Blue Dragon is one of the most panned 'hype games' I've witnessed in years.

Just speaking from my personal opinion, I don't see any reason to get a 360. For people who do, more power to them. I was just giving my take on the situation.

River26

10-05-2007, 12:22 AM

Personally I don't have a 360. And don't plan to get one. 360, it can never have those motion sensing games, like with the PS3/Wii. All you just do is control games normally.

So, it's just be the PS3/Wii for me. And besides, the 360 will also never have future titles like; FFXIII, Versus XIII (though at some point fans only thought that the games would come over to 360. Which fortunately Square Enix shot down their rumor, saying that FFXIII and Versus XIII would only be running on PS3's hardware) + White Knight Story, another j-SRPG (involving real sword combat situations).

Speaking of Wii, it has lots of advantages over the 360. In Marvel Ultimate Alliance, you can actually mimic your own character. Samething in Zelda's Twilight Princess (with some of his moves). And now, the Wii/PS3 are now just starting to have their own "light-gun" peripheral. Which I haven't heard of the 360 thinking of having.

Shawn Hopkins

10-05-2007, 06:04 PM

I think the 360 Ultimate Alliance has the Wii version beat. The Gold version has way, way better graphics and 10 more characters.

For me, not having motion sensing is not a deal breaker when it comes to games. Most games, in fact, work better with a traditional control scheme.

peacebyanymeans

10-05-2007, 08:56 PM

Personally I don't have a 360. And don't plan to get one. 360, it can never have those motion sensing games, like with the PS3/Wii. All you just do is control games normally.

Aaaaaand... that's a bad thing?

jeff_iz_XLent

10-05-2007, 09:16 PM

Don't torture yourself.just get the cheaper 360.Pretend like PS3's never existed and 360's graphics were the all-time best.There,you just saved yourself 800 bucks. ;)

Wounded_Dragon

10-06-2007, 07:42 PM

Look at every game that's out for both systems. If I was buying right now, I'd go with PS3, but that's cause games I personally like (that no one else does) are on/will be on the PS3. Your tastes will vary.

Try and find a store that has decent demos set up for both systems too.

Punisher

10-07-2007, 10:40 AM

The 360 has been pretty awesome to me. It's got the best variety of games out of all three consoles currently, and with next year seeing the release of games such as Banjo-Kazooie 3 and Resident Evil 5, it's only going to get better. Sure, everyone says that the only decent games on the 360 are FPS's(and Bioshock is indeed one of the most amazing games ever), but I'd say Kameo, Dead or Alive 4, and Lost Planet are pretty sweet, among others. Add to that Xbox Live and you've got yourself the best console on the market.

And lol at the 'no motion control being a bad thing.'

Mynd Hed

10-07-2007, 11:25 AM

Personally, I'd hold off on both for the moment. PS3 until it gets more killer titles (And don't tell me "well, Games X, Y, and Z are coming out in a month or two." They don't count as killer titles until everyone can PLAY them and judge whether they're killer.), and the 360 until it gets the Red Ring o' Death fiasco sorted out.

As a special added bonus, there's a fair chance that by the time those things have happened, we'll have witnessed another price cut or two.

Ed Gruberman, you must learn patience. (+50 Pop Culture Points to whoever gets the reference.)

JohnCrichton

10-07-2007, 11:46 AM

The red ring fiasco has been resolved with the Elite SKU and the latest 360 consoles on the shelves.

Those who purchased at launch are the ones that're dropping like flies.

Gokou Ruri

10-07-2007, 11:51 AM

360 I'd say. It has much more and better games. I've nevered cared for Japanese RPGs much, and prefer Western RPGs like KOTOR, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect, and Neverwinter Nights, which the 360 has more of.

Mynd Hed

10-07-2007, 02:15 PM

The red ring fiasco has been resolved with the Elite SKU and the latest 360 consoles on the shelves.

Those who purchased at launch are the ones that're dropping like flies.

We don't really have good numbers on the latest 360 production runs, though. (Not that we have really good specific numbers for the launch-window models either, but we've got a better idea than we do for the newer ones.) I really, really hope that you're right, but I'm not willing to drop my three or four hundred bucks until we're more sure than we are now.

Lord Andy

10-07-2007, 10:31 PM

The red ring of death shouldn't be too much of a worry. The cooler CPUs are starting to show up, plus there's that three year warenty to keep you safe for a while.

If you're in no hurry, might as well wait. The only rush is if you want a PS3 to perfectly play PS2 games, then you'll want a 60Gig before they're gone. Otherwise, yeah, there's supposed new system pack in deals coming this season, so maybe some good deals will pop up. When one system says "now you have" to buy me, buy it. If you really want that FFXIII, wait till it comes out and so on.

Ed Gruberman, you must learn patience. (+50 Pop Culture Points to whoever gets the reference.)

"Boot to the Head" by the Frantics, with special thanks to Dr.Demento ^^

River26

10-08-2007, 12:40 AM

Aaaaaand... that's a bad thing?

Um, I'm only stating my personal opinion - nothing more. You guys don't have to comment and say; "Aaaaaand... that's a bad thing?

I thought you guys would respect each other's opinions. Because I respect yours. <_<.

Putting that aside though. I'm still going with only the Wii & PS3. Seeing as I'm mostly a Nintendo an SONY fan.

Tanooki

10-08-2007, 12:46 AM

that's their way of asking you to explain why you think it's a bad thing. you see, i've been noticing that you tend to give your personal opinion a lot on here, or you actually restate the obvious things that we already know, and we're just wondering why you think that way? nothing more. we're just wondering why you think traditional control design should be a thing of the past?

Jmanunknown

10-08-2007, 04:03 AM

The red ring of death shouldn't be too much of a worry. The cooler CPUs are starting to show up, plus there's that three year warenty to keep you safe for a while.

Yes the "Falcon" CPU chipset for the Xbox 360 will make the system run cooler but, I don't believe the CPU was ever the problem. From whats been said the GPU in the Xbox 360 seems to be the main culprit in the red ring of death problem but, nonetheless theres still the three year warranty. I'm not sure if they've actually fixed the GPU problem that causes the red ring of death problem because theres stories out there of elites and the Halo edition Xbox 360's getting the red ring.

peacebyanymeans

10-08-2007, 03:40 PM

Um, I'm only stating my personal opinion - nothing more. You guys don't have to comment and say; "Aaaaaand... that's a bad thing?

I thought you guys would respect each other's opinions. Because I respect yours. <_<.

Putting that aside though. I'm still going with only the Wii & PS3. Seeing as I'm mostly a Nintendo an SONY fan.

I respect your opinion. I just wonder what your reasoning is behind motion control being a superior control method.

And you might've noticed that my question pertained to only one part of your argument. Meaning that, I agree with you on the other being a valid point for the PS3 and against the 360. There are many games the PS3 has that the 360 will not be getting. But likewise, it's the same for the 360.

So it all really comes down to your taste in games and exclusive features to each console. Is Home more important to you than Live? Do you need Blu-Ray? Do you like RPGs more than FPS'? Do you like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear more than Halo and Gears of War? Etc, etc.

Shawn Hopkins

10-08-2007, 05:34 PM

I just want to say something in defense of Blue Dragon. Don't listen to the negative reviews. It's actually a pretty good game, a lot of fun. I think some people were put off by the old style gameplay and story. But if you can deal with playing early Dragon Warriors and Final Fantasy's despite the fact that they don't have twitchy real time combat, you'll probably like Blue Dragon.

But at any rate, the game didn't get panned by professional reviewers, it got good scores in most places. It just didn't live up to the completely unreasonable hype that surrounded it because of its creative team and being the first big JRPG for the 360, probably the biggest one yet on a Microsoft system.

Lazerboy5000

10-09-2007, 09:20 AM

Personally I say PS3. But I'm into sports games like Madden. And I've heard that Playstation is better when it somes to sports, but XBox owns at everything else.

Also, I would get a PS3 because then I could still play all of my PS1 and PS2 games that I already have.

So, I'd say if you have a PS2, go with PS3. And if you have XBox, go with XBox360.
If you have both... well, then either one is fine. Both are great game consoles.

Oh, and BTW, PS3 is $600 while XBox360 is only $400.

Mynd Hed

10-09-2007, 09:32 AM

Also, I would get a PS3 because then I could still play all some of my PS1 and PS2 games that I already have... maybe... depending on which version of the PS3 I get.

Fixed.

SNS

10-09-2007, 09:47 AM

Doesn't the 60GB version play all games (they just don't all work completely correct)? Besides he's talking about playing all of HIS games (so all his PS1 & PS2 games could be the ones that work flawlessly with the PS3).

JohnCrichton

10-09-2007, 12:52 PM

Personally I say PS3. But I'm into sports games like Madden. And I've heard that Playstation is better when it somes to sports, but XBox owns at everything else.

Weeelllll..... 360's got all the sports game that PS3 has and Madden is already proven to run better on the 360. PS3 has some weird framerate problem. Not to mention 360's got LIVE, so the online experience of sports gaming would be better.

I'm just sayin'.... :sweat:

Lazerboy5000

10-10-2007, 08:55 AM

Fixed.
I didn't know there was more than one version of PS3.

hmmmm... maybe I should look into this a little more.

peacebyanymeans

10-10-2007, 08:43 PM

I didn't know there was more than one version of PS3.

hmmmm... maybe I should look into this a little more.

there are like 4 models.

joytime360

10-11-2007, 12:22 AM

Go for Xbox360 , right now they seems more popular and has better quality . But it depends on your budget also . And Microsoft Xbox 360 Console Halo 3 Special Edition has came out , it said to be very good.

n1c3guy707

10-11-2007, 02:51 AM

As of right the 360 is a great buy with great triple A titles already out, you can play great games after you buy the system. As for the PS3 it's not necessary to buy one at the moment. There really isn't a must play title out and there are so many rumored price drop that buying a PS3 next year is a better option.

Lazerboy5000

10-11-2007, 09:09 AM

there are like 4 models.
Could you give me a link as to what are the differences between the modles?

SNS

10-11-2007, 09:47 AM

Could you give me a link as to what are the differences between the modles?

Here is a link to a chart. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Retail_configurations)

MGFanJay

10-11-2007, 03:54 PM

Despite my first 360 only lasting five months (just replaced it last week), I'd go with the 360. I've played both the PS3 and Wii, and neither have impressed me to the point of purchase. The 360's got more games on it that I want to play RIGHT now (PGR 3, PGR 4, Saints Row, Gears of War), more coming (VF 5 Online is a big one for me), and the Xbox Live Arcade, which is done far, far better than the original Xbox rendition of it, and the ability to download demos for dozens of games add to my enjoyment of the 360.

TKnHappyNess

10-11-2007, 06:45 PM

360 because Sony is just desperate with the PS3. First the 20 GB and 60 GB versions, then the 80, and now the 40 coming up. All of them in less than a year.

Tommy Lawson

10-11-2007, 11:04 PM

Microsoft appears to be willing to lose the rights to exclusive content in 2009 with Bungie becoming independent, and the loss of future potential exclusive 360 titles from Bioware/Pandemic with the EA buyout today. I think they are OK with that. I believe they are changing their focus from a Sony-inspired loss-leading console model where they lose money on hardware to a Nintendo-inspired profit on every console sold by that point in the console's life cycle. I've noticed a trend that there are some multiplatform games that have an Xbox 360 release first, followed by the PS3, almost a reversal from the last generation. So while there will be less 360 exclusives later on, the question is whether or not it is worth paying the extra money for a PS3? Even at $400, I feel the PS3 library is not substantial enough for that kind of money. I expect a $300 PS3 to be released near the time of Final Fantasy XIII's North American release, finally matching the PS2's original launch price in October 2000.

Lazerboy5000

10-12-2007, 08:53 AM

Here is a link to a chart. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Retail_configurations)
Ok, I see that there are 4 different models. So, Is there a price difference between the modles?

BCVM22

10-12-2007, 08:02 PM

Ok, I see that there are 4 different models. So, Is there a price difference between the modles?

Uh... well, if one piece of machinery has a 40 GB hard drive and another has an 80 GB hard drive, what would your hypothesis be as to a price difference or not?

Lazerboy5000

10-13-2007, 02:38 PM

Uh... well, if one piece of machinery has a 40 GB hard drive and another has an 80 GB hard drive, what would your hypothesis be as to a price difference or not?
... yea, you're right :sweat: ...

But, I'm not sure what model that I have seen being advertising. Because I've only seen one so far, and it was priced at $600.

so I'm just not sure exactly how much the price difference is.

BCVM22

10-13-2007, 03:56 PM

... yea, you're right :sweat: ...

But, I'm not sure what model that I have seen being advertising. Because I've only seen one so far, and it was priced at $600.

so I'm just not sure exactly how much the price difference is.

http://www.gamestop.com/search.asp?N=141+83

That won't price every model for you, but it should give you some idea as to the price differences.

Robin2099

10-14-2007, 01:28 AM

360 is the better system overall, but make sure you get a long warranty for it as it almost always breaks down. I'm on my 3rd 360, and since it broke down one year after the warranty, Microsoft is charging me $130 to fix it. :mad:

Tommy Lawson

10-16-2007, 01:23 AM

The red ring fiasco has been resolved with the Elite SKU and the latest 360 consoles on the shelves.

Those who purchased at launch are the ones that're dropping like flies.

Perhaps it's an isolated case, but this (http://www.canmag.com/nw/9278-xbox-360-red-ring-death) very recent post seems to indicate otherwise about the Xbox 360 Elite SKU being reliable, and it's a recently made unit too. The picture used is obviously from somewhere else though. Apparently, the Elites can fail just like the Premiums and Cores can.