Double standard in people

[Atoon]

Something I don't get... Why some people don't like that CN has live-action shows and prefer to not watch them, but some of these people likes MTV cartoons that has nothing to do with music?

[Wonderwall]

MTV has cartoons?

[Atoon]

MTV has cartoons?

Clone High, Celebrity Deathmatch, Daria, Downtown, Æon Flux, Undergrads, to name a few. I don't sure if they still air them but they still count as (former) MTV cartoons.

Also Beavis and Butt-head, but it may be an exception because it included commentaries of music videos.

[Golgo13]

The problem is MTV isn't really sure of what it wants to be other than a network that will generally appeal to the tweens and 18-34 demographic. Cartoon Network is a pretty self-explantory channel; a network for cartoons. MTV could've been just been a network for music videoes, but then MTV started making ridiculous ratings grabs. So, every few years, MTV dipps back into Viacom's animation well for some old shows or new ones that are both eventually cancelled.

MTV2 was even marketed as their second network devoted only to music videos, but they screwed up that channel too by rerunning four of their original shows for a season over and over. There was a time when you could watch the same episode of Wonder Showzen on MTV2 ten times a week. And lets not forget MTV2's Sic-amation fest in which they aired EVERY SINGLE cartoon from the Viacom library (I mean everything from Ren and Stimpy to Invader Zim).

[Dr. Daedalus]

I guess I never really had a problem with animation on MTV because of what Golgo said, and also because quite a few of their music videos had animation in them.

[HistoryFollower]

The problem is MTV isn't really sure of what it wants to be other than a network that will generally appeal to the tweens and 18-34 demographic. Cartoon Network is a pretty self-explantory channel; a network for cartoons.Music Televsion isn't self-explantory? I agree with Atoon on this one. Some people are willing to let some channels slowly change what they do and others not. And it's all based on wiether or not the channel is showing something they want to watch.

[Blackstar]

I can't and don't speak for everybody, but the reason why I never complain about MTV is because I don't watch it. I haven't seen more the 3 seconds of MTV in years. I honestly don't what they're doing now, nor do I much care.

All I know is that MTV, like Nicktoons Network before it, really dropped the ball with it's off shoot channel, MTV2. It started out as an alternative to the original channel (MTV2 originally showed music videos 24/7 commercial free) and ended up being a clone of it. Same deal with ESPN2. It started out as the younger, hipper alternative to ESPN, but then the 2 channels' programming gradually became more and more similar to the point where the only difference between the 2 channels is that ESPN 2 shows the X Games.

It's also worth mentioning that I presently watch Boomerang more than I do Cartoon Network and I watch Nicktoons Network more than Nick, which doesn't take much because I don't watch Nick at all.

[Dr.Pepper]

I don't know maybe because MTV broke away from all music videos like years ago, so I hate to say it but 15 years from now peopleprobably don't care if they play live action on CN

[Cobblepot1982]

Something I don't get... Why some people don't like that CN has live-action shows and prefer to not watch them, but some of these people likes MTV cartoons that has nothing to do with music?


Do you also take notice into the quality of the music that the videos are based on? Maybe in comparison to that, the cartoons on MTV are a welcome escape. Dude, I was a teen in the '90s- NOT a pleasant experience. It's no wonder I eventually found solace in the 1980s pop culture.

[Antiyonder]

In my opinion, another reason is that there are less cartoons than live action and music videos in general. Fans of the latter have more options than the cartoon fans.

[cyde]

VH1 never had any toons but they too stopped broadcasting vids.

[Blackstar]

VH1 never had any toons

Not unless one counts how VH1 showed Rugrats for a few weeks when the series was still relatively new.

[Golgo13]

VH1 never had any toons but they too stopped broadcasting vids.

Not true. For awhile they aired Ren and Stimpy with introductions by Billy West. They also had a pop-culture cartoon from Camp Chaos.

[Golgo13]

I wish I could remember where it was, but there is a song on YouTube about how Cartoon Network is the new MTV. I'd have to agree with that song. You know a network is in trouble when they start straying from their network's programing and dip into the Turner library.

[Dudley]

Oddly enough, the only time I ever watched MTV was for the cartoons. Mainly for Spy Groove.

[Starbro]

Oddly enough, the only time I ever watched MTV was for the cartoons. Mainly for Spy Group.

Judging by your avatar, I'd say Daria must have been a popular choice too. ;)

[Dudley]

Judging by your avatar, I'd say Daria must have been a popular choice too. ;)

Actually, I never got into, nor fully watch the show until this year.

[SirLemming]

I don't think there's any real justification. It's just that if someone likes, say, Aeon Flux, they're not going to complain about it being on TV even if it's MTV. But someone who doesn't like it is more likely to say "It's not even about music, it shouldn't be on this network!" And the guy who likes it won't exactly disagree, but he'll still be glad it's on.

[FinnMacCool]

Oh c'mon, everyone gave up on MTV having anything to do with music a long time ago.

[Lord Mawdryn]

To me, it's because nobody really gives a dingo's kidney what MTV does anymore. It's a young adult reality-show network now and certainly isn't where one goes to see the latest music videos (the few videos they do play in the wee hours of the night are usually interrupted with promos for their online music services or for other primetime shows).

This kind of thing is actually happening all over cable really, so Cartoon Network is by no means alone. FUSE is running anime. Many cable networks are moving farther and farther away from their original niche programming with each passing year as they become more like broadcast networks in their attempt to reach the widest possible audience. Even TV Land--the home of vintage TV shows--has begun running theatrical movies...

[FriendlyMushroom]

I'd say that they care about cartoons more than music. It's as simple priorities.

[Polychrome]

I can't and don't speak for everybody, but the reason why I never complain about MTV is because I don't watch it.

QFT

The only reason I even touched MTV was for Daria... and frankly, I'm not even sure what that show was doing on MTV either. To be fair, they did have a tendency to use a variety of current songs in the soundtrack.

Double Standard? More like MTV isn't worth caring about and preserving at this point. With Cartoon Network, most of us are wishing that the channel would get a clue before it *does* become another MTV...

[danreyes1]

I never cared for MTV's animation anyway. But we all hope that CN doesn't follow MTV's standard.