"Survivor: China" Talkback Thread (Spoilers) [Archive]

The Penguin

09-20-2007, 07:11 PM

Survivor: China begins tonight at 8 p.m. ET on CBS! The 15th edition leaves the tropical island setting to become the first major American television program to shoot an entire season in China.

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/survivor-china03.jpg"A Chicken's a Little Bit Smarter" - Season Premiere
Thursday, September 20, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
The reality show that started it all continues to raise the bar with its exotic locations and high-risk challenges on SURVIVOR: CHINA. The new competition unleashes an eclectic group of castaways on the ancient south central province of Jiang Xi, where they are prepared for adventure, danger and surprises in the hopes of winning $1 million and becoming the ultimate Survivor.

Undrave

09-20-2007, 07:32 PM

the first major American television program to shoot an entire season in the Land of the Rising Sun.

Isn't the Land of the Rising Sun actually Japan?? oO

The Penguin

09-20-2007, 07:33 PM

Yeah, so i fixed that now. :o This is apparently a bad day for me.

KuwabaraTheMan

09-20-2007, 08:08 PM

Wow, the series has just started, and this Courtney chick is already pissing me off.

Her whole attitude during the Buddhist ceremony. Looks like we've found the first of our flaky, annoying women of the season.

simpsonsfan

09-21-2007, 02:21 PM

Pretty good season so far but, what's with all the wierd names. :zoidberg:

The Penguin

09-21-2007, 04:14 PM

Chicken checked out on Zhan Hu and so no surprise, they checked out on him. The hard worker who knows how to build a shelter always gets frustrated with the amaeturs, but he took it too far the other way when he just checked out and refused to give his opinion on anything. Oh and settle the hell down, Peih-Gee. She is not gonna last too long in the "home country" if she doesn't tone it down. I'm excited to see the WWE's Ashley as part of Survivor and I hope her getting sick on day 2 doesn't hurt her. She seems to be doing better now.

It would figure that Fei Long would team up the Christian radio host and the gay flight attendant, wouldn't it? I'm not looking forward to Leslie trying save Todd or whatever. I had a tough time with her leaving the opening ceremony, she cheated herself out of a neat experience. And I predict Courtney will cheat herself out of the Survivor experience. She was real abrasive with the camera and you know she is going to be that way with her tribemates. James the gravedigger already looks to be this year's silent hero.

Mike Spartz

09-21-2007, 08:34 PM

since it reads spoiler in the thread title, I'll spoil the final three right now.

Todd, Courtney, Amanda

and Ashley is booted ep. 2

The Penguin

09-21-2007, 08:38 PM

since it reads spoiler in the thread title, I'll spoil the final three right now.

Todd, Courtney, Amanda

and Ashley is booted ep. 2I don't know if you're making predictions or having no concept of what 'spoilers' means so I put it in a box. Spoilers doesn't mean discuss what is know to be coming, it means discuss what has happened on aired episodes freely. So either you're making picks and did it in a way I didn't get, or you made yourself out to be a huge jerk by ruining the show for at least me. You're not a newbie, you should know better than that.

Mike Spartz

09-21-2007, 08:40 PM

I don't know if you're making predictions or having no concept of what 'spoilers' means so I put it in a box. Spoilers doesn't mean discuss what is know to be coming, it means discuss what has happened on aired episodes freely. So either you're making picks and did it in a way I didn't get, or you made yourself out to be a huge jerk by ruining the show for at least me.Sorry, I was being a jerk, I'll make sure to put spoilers tags around the spoilers next time. Again, I apologize.

brendan2236

09-22-2007, 03:04 AM

James could end up being a big threat if he can make it to the individual immunity stage. I was amazed at how athletic he was is in that first challenge, combine that with the fact that his mouth probably won't get him in to trouble, and he should do very well.

bigddan11

09-22-2007, 06:46 PM

I was rooting for Ashley to be voted off, especially with the early sickness strike, but Chicken criticzing everyone for doing nothing when he was part of the nothing brought about his downfall.

The Penguin

09-27-2007, 07:38 PM

On the season premiere we met all the new Survivors as they arrived in China. They were divided into two tribes, Zhan Hu and Fei Long. When Zhan Hu lost the first immunity challenge, they voted out Chicken, who had failed to connect with the group.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"My Mom Is Going to Kill Me!"
Thursday, September 27, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
The castaways are thrown, choked, and wrestled as mud flies and tops are ripped off in one of the most physical and dirtiest challenges in Survivor history. When Leslie feels weak and vulnerable, she receives what she thinks is a gift from God. Jean-Robert concocts a plan to purposely act lazy in order to get ahead in the game.

TKnHappyNess

09-28-2007, 12:52 AM

Boring. That's what Survivor is, and if they really want to call it Survivor, ship all the contestants over to Iraq. That's surviving in a nutshell.

Brandon Pierce

09-28-2007, 06:37 PM

Gonna get killed by her mother just because her bosom slipped out. That's a strict parent, I'll tell ya that.

KuwabaraTheMan

09-28-2007, 06:46 PM

So, Ashley wound up being the second to go. Dave needs to turn things around if he wants to stay, especially with that tribe being in a rut.

The hidden immunity idol seems more interesting this time around, with only a select few knowing of its existence. That throws more of a wrench into things.

The Penguin

10-01-2007, 09:15 PM

I thought for sure Ashley would be voted out because her tribe figured she didn't need the money, but it turned out to be Zhan Hu picked the other guy in a conflict she was having. I don't know who was right, but I am not feelin' Dave right now. I suspect that Ashley is right and he will not last very long.

Tha's really the only thought I have. This really was kind of a boring episode. At least Exlie Island isn't back (at least yet); I was really getting tired of it.

Icer

10-02-2007, 07:19 AM

Maybe the tribe kidnapping another teams member will become this years Exile Island. I'm sad to see Ashley leave as she was good eye candy:evil:

The Penguin

10-04-2007, 07:10 PM

WWE Diva Ashley was voted out last week as Zhan Hu went to their second straight tribal council. The tribe basically picked Dave's side in his conflict with Ashley, how will that play out as they return to camp?

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"I Lost Two Hands and Possibly a Shoulder!"
Thursday, October 4, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
The kidnapped castaway bonds with the kidnappers over issues of faith, and the floodgates open as that castaway reveals their own tribe's dynamics. The women on one tribe have a hard time getting shut-eye as they avoid the snuggling and smothering of a cuddly castaway. As two guys joke in private that the only reason to keep a weak female tribemate is because one has a crush on her, that woman spies on their crude conversation. To stew or roast a crab? That is the question that prompts two alpha-males to duke it out.

KuwabaraTheMan

10-04-2007, 08:57 PM

Well, it was expected that Leslie wouldn't last that long. She was really annoying, and she put her faith forward too much. I just don't like it when people are so obsessive about it. Like her final remarks where she's just like 'God's ready for me to go'. Like anyone could win with that attitude.

Still, Jean Robert really rubs me the wrong way. I hope he doesn't make it much longer. Finally Xhan Hu won a couple of challenges, so this is an even game, now.

Not sure what was up with Dave stripping during the reward challenge, though.

Jin Kazama

10-04-2007, 09:09 PM

Courtney threw the immunity challenge. I just can't figure out why. The look she gave at the start of it. The look after she finally cut the final rope. I swear she threw it.

The Penguin

10-08-2007, 08:14 PM

I was a little annoyed by Leslie when the show first started and her loose lips took her out of the game. She was way too open with Zhan Hu, of course Fei Long didn't know what she actually said, but what they thought they knew was enough.

You get to know people better of the show goes on, but there are so many people I feel like we don't know at all. I was kind of considering giving up on the show because I have to tape it every week (meeting), but I get pumped during the challenges and I remember why I've enjoyed the show for so long.

The Penguin

10-11-2007, 07:42 PM

Fei Long was sent to Tribal Council for the first time and decided to vote off Leslie after they felt she revealed too much when she was kidnapped by the other tribe.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"Ride the Workhorse Till the Tail Falls Off"
Thursday, October 11, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
Seashells saved for Mom prompt an explosive fight between Sherea and Dave at Zhan Hu. Jean-Robert tries to help Courtney from burning herself on a kettle. In return for the helpful warning, Courtney snaps back! Later, both tribes receive tree mail telling them they must go to Tribal Council.

The Penguin

10-12-2007, 12:11 PM

Well I guess Todd won't be getting kidnapped by Dave and give him a clue. Sherea the elementary school teacher was really starting to annoy me with her equally bad attitude and her poor work ethic around camp (if everyone does both, you can save energy that way, rather than wearing some people out). I thought they might send her home, but it was really time for Dave to go.

I thought it was awesome that Jean-Robert actually spoke Mandarin. Sometimes people surprise you. He proved to be immensely valuable to his tribe there and I was a bit surprised James took it so personally when he was calling out the woman's orders/requests. It would be quicker to just say them then politely ask that it be done. Jean-Robert clearly has a strategy with his being lazy and then starting to step up, but he also seems to be misunderstood.

The Penguin

10-18-2007, 07:25 PM

After getting a week off, Zhan Hu returned to Tribal Council and once again chose sides in a camp argument. This time, the group ousted Dave, who despite his work around camp, was causing conflicts with his tribemates.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"Love Is in the Air"
Thursday, October 18, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
One castaway confesses that he is a virgin while flirting with a tribemate he admits he has a crush on. A physical attraction provokes a shocking reveal--the existence of the Hidden Immunity Idol. And later, chaos abounds after a tribal switch, leading to tears, fears, cracks in tribal loyalties, threats of throwing challenges and a blindsiding vote at Tribal Council.

bigddan11

10-19-2007, 10:05 AM

Choosing to throw a challenge because you think you'll merge at 10 is a terrible move. Sure, it assures you will have 5-5, but it also harms any chance you have of bringing over someone to your side. There's also no gurantee that they won't have another tribal swap, in which case your plans will also be destroyed, and if you get down to only having two or three members, well, we have seen it before where one tribe only had one person left. They basically threw the challenge, and then they got rid of the strongest player in teh game when his compadre isn't going to help them win even a reward challenge thanks to their attitude.

silverwings

10-20-2007, 10:11 PM

Yeah... that was some of the worst stragedy I've ever seen... and yet it's brilliant? :sweat:

James has every right to be angry. Though, what goes around comes around. I doubt the two girls will last long. ;)

Edit: If i were james, i'd throw the next reward challenge. Fair is fair.

The Penguin

10-22-2007, 05:24 PM

Ohmygod, I cannot believe Peih-Gee and Jamie threw that challenge!! Do these women ever watch Survivor?! There is no guarantee the merge will happen at 10. Survivor: Palau ran until one tribe had only member left and then she just joined the dominate one. Everyone always starts thinking about the merge too early, especially since they no longer know for sure when it will happen. But at least most of those people just vote out the strong rather than losing intentionally and then voting out the strong. The other guys should have sent Peih-Gee home. I anxiously await this so-called "strategy" blowing up in their faces.

The Penguin

10-25-2007, 07:40 PM

The tribes were shaken up last week with two members being traded to the other team. After the switch, Peih-Gee and Jamie decided to throw the challenge to vote off one of the former Fei Long members. They lost the challenge and their fellow tribemates went along with it and Aaron was voted off by his new tribe.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"That's Love, Baby! It Makes You Strong!"
Thursday, October 25, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
The castaways dine on unusual Chinese delicacies, ranging from a chicken heart to a “thousand-year-old egg.” A castaway discovers the Hidden Immunity Idol, but the secret is blown when an unwelcome tribe member sees it in their possession. And later, one castaway wants to go to Tribal Council, even though he knows he won’t have the votes to survive.

The Penguin

10-26-2007, 01:45 PM

The plan Fei Long had regarding the immunity challenge was actually fairly good, but in the end it didn't work out so well. Hopefully, Todd doesn't regret giving the idol to James.

I think getting rid of Sherea was the right call. Obviously the tribe doesn't love Jean-Robert, but I think he can be trusted enough not to leave someone with strong connections to the other tribe in your group. I think they will be safe trusting Frosti though. And Courtney needs to just calm down. What is it with the skinny blonde women this season?

The Penguin

11-01-2007, 07:43 PM

Last week it was Fei Long's turn to send someone previously on the other tribe when they voted for Sherea despite Courtney refusing to vote for her and trying to encourage her tribemates to vote for Jean-Robert. Todd & Amanda found with the Hidden Immunity Idol at their camp with unexpected help from Frosti, but then it was given to James so he could save himself over at Zhan Hu.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"I'm Not as Dumb as I Look"
Thursday, November 1, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
What is a true friend? This is the question some Castaways try to answer in a heated argument about loyalty. The fierce hunt for Hidden Immunity Idols continues, as private property is violated and one Castaway falsely believes three Idols are in play. Later the tribes merge, and one Castaway torn between two alliances holds a lot of power--literally. In one of the most surprising Tribal Councils yet, one Castaway feels invincible and makes a shocking revelation.

The Penguin

11-05-2007, 07:08 PM

I didn't even notice I was left alone last week, anyone still watching?

Well Hae Da Fung sounds and looks funny, but I guess the idea behind it is cool.

Since I may be by myself, I will just cite few highlights...

James breaking down how things are in camp was hilarious! I couldn't stop laughing. He seemed quiet and strong at first, but I am really liking him now.

Showing Courtney drawing the 'J' was kind of a clever piece of camera work. She was ridiculous when Fei Long came back from Tribal Council. Calm down, woman!

I wondered if Jaime had gone all the way into James' pants (not dirty) to check out the idols and maybe had one of the actual ones, but she didn't and it was so great seeing Jeff toss that in the fire!! :lol: James was expecting it and it was even better than he thought it would be! :lol:

KuwabaraTheMan

11-05-2007, 08:32 PM

I didn't even notice I was left alone last week, anyone still watching?

I have been, but I missed a couple of episodes due to outside reasons.

We finally got the merge, but we've definitely got a stronger group right now.

Jaime and the whole 'fake idol' thing was pure comic gold.

The remaining group all seem fairly interesting, but Todd and James are my favorites at this point.

silverwings

11-05-2007, 11:11 PM

I'm still watching, I'm just finding very little to comment on. This hasn't exactly been the most exciting season ever (especially compared with the season where Yul won).

I'm waiting for some kind of twist (almost got there with Todd's and James' scheme a few episodes back) and while the HII thing came close. I really wish Jeff had just explained the idol rules and had Jamie try to play it after the vote. Oh well..

The Penguin

11-08-2007, 07:44 PM

Fei Long and Zhan Hu have become Hae Da Fung. In the first offical week "every Survivor for themselves", Jaime was voted out when she tried to play an Immunity Idol that wasn't an Immunity Idol!

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"High School Friend Contest"
Thursday, November 8, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
While everyone is sound asleep, one castaway begins searching for the Hidden Immunity Idol, collecting random items in the desperate hope that one of them might be it. One castaway becomes the Godfather after threatening a supposed ally not to double-cross him. Overconfidence takes over the castaways, as seven of nine arrive at Tribal Council with no bags. Will one of them be sent home without their belongings?

KuwabaraTheMan

11-08-2007, 11:53 PM

Wow. This was a really suspenseful Tribal Council. Completely sucked me in. I was glad that Jean Robert got voted off. Not only because he was a jerk, but I also was happy to see James stick around. He's really entertaining to watch. Him and Todd.

Todd was pretty flip-floppy tonight. In the end, I'm not sure what he really accomplished. He lost Jean Robert's vote on the Jury, and James still has both idols. Peih-Gee and Eric got a reprieve this time, but will their luck continue next week?

Burgundy Ranger

11-09-2007, 06:40 PM

Is this the first time they've redone the opening to show who's left in the merged tribe, who's on the jury and cut out those who didn't make the merge?

IIRC, the open never changed in previous seasons and all contestants were shown each time the full version of the opening was used.

The Penguin

11-12-2007, 06:32 PM

James is awesome. He seems so quiet and reserved, but he pulls out all the great lines. His observation of the 'other tribe' this week was money, "They're not trying to win a million dollars, they're trying to win a high school friend contest." :lol:

Todd was all over the place here, I can't stand Peih-Gee so I would rather she be gone right now, but I won't shed any tears over Jean-Robert. His 'loyalty' was certainly in question after his confrontation with James. I hope this turns out to be the right call.

Is this the first time they've redone the opening to show who's left in the merged tribe, who's on the jury and cut out those who didn't make the merge?I was shocked when I saw it like that, so I'm pretty sure it's the first time. I was only half-watching and didn't notice until I saw "The Jury." Confused the heck out of me. Not a bad update for the viewer though, it keeps you up to date on where we are.

The Penguin

11-15-2007, 07:50 PM

Hae Da Fung changed plans (a couple of times) last week, but in the end, Jean-Robert was blind-sided and made the second member of the jury.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"Just Don't Eat the Apple"
Thursday, November 15, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
A new force to be reckoned with takes on the power players. When one girl starts caressing someone outside her alliance, her allies are not happy. One vulnerable castaway may change his fate by…acting like a sheep?

KuwabaraTheMan

11-16-2007, 10:18 PM

A shame that Frosti went, he was a pretty entertaining guy. But he was their biggest threat, so it made sense to vote him out. I'm really curious about the cliffhanger ending, too.

Peih-Gee finally winning something was pretty surprising. She's managed to stay safe for a little longer. But how long will that last her? She's the most despised member of the tribe with Jean-Robert gone.

The further things go without some huge shake up, the safer Todd, Amanda, and James seem. Especially James with his two immunity idols.

The Penguin

11-19-2007, 02:44 AM

You're making a lot of sense this week, KuwabaraTheMan. I'm with you on everything you said. :^:

As soon as I saw the immunity challenge was a puzzle rather than something physical, I was afraid Peih-Gee was going to win and then offering burgers to those who felt safe improved her odds tremendously. I was hoping Frosti would pull it out to both get rid of her and keep himself alive. Alas it was not meant to be. I hope Peih-Gee goes next week. I was amazed she had the audacity to accuse James of not trying after she threw a challenge a few weeks ago.

With my "ditto" to Kuwabara's comments, I don't have anything else to really add. Other than that we will have to wait two weeks to find out why Jeff is keeping them at tribal. With next week being Thanksgiving, it's a "so far" clip show.

The Penguin

11-22-2007, 10:37 PM

Curl up with that turkey leg, grad a slice of pie and get caught up on this season of Suvivor: China! Original episodes return next week.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"It's Been Real and It's Been Fun"
Thursday, November 22, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
A recap of the season so far. Jeff Probst is the host. - TVGuide.com

The Penguin

11-29-2007, 07:42 PM

When we last left China, Frosti had just been voted out and Jeff told the remaining Survivors they couldn't go back to camp just yet!

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"Ready to Bite the Apple"
Thursday, November 29, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
One Castaway grows anxious and threatens to change things up by blindsiding her best friend. Also, an alliance considers blindsiding one of their own. And all the castaways are blindsided by a surprise announcement from Jeff.

The Penguin

12-06-2007, 07:08 PM

No one for Survivor? :shrug: We're getting closer to the end.

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"Going for the Oscar"
Thursday, December 6, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
While most castaways shed tears of joy after receiving news from home, one sheds tears of sorrow…but some think the waterworks are no more than a mere performance. After fulfilling a tribemate’s dream, one castaway is infuriated when her kind gesture is not returned. And why are the castaways licking each other’s hands?

KuwabaraTheMan

12-08-2007, 01:43 PM

Another good episode this week.

I always enjoy seeing the survivors and their loved ones, so this was a great episode. It was a really emotional reunion for a lot of them. The reward challenge was fun, especially with Courtney snapping at Probst.

Peih-Gee getting upset because Denise didn't take her was really immature. Speaking of Denise, I've been really impressed with her lately. She seemed like a typical 'just there' person for awhile, but lately she's been really enjoyable to watch, and she's very likable.

The problem is, she's too likable to take to the Final 3. Her only shot is if she manages to win Immunity at Final 4. She won Reward this week, so that's not completely unexpected.

Speaking of Immunity, Peih-Gee has now won 2 of the last 3 Immunity Challenges. I hope she doesn't win anymore than that. She should be out next time.

Todd and Amanda seem like the favorites right now, but I think things might change next week. Both of them have kind of been loose cannons lately. Two loose cannons in one alliance is just asking for trouble. It's a wonder James kept that group together for so long.

The Penguin

12-13-2007, 07:44 PM

Good to see someone posted, the finale is this Sunday! I have fallen a couple weeks behind, so I've got nothin' to say (yet).

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"Hello, I'm Still A Person!"
Thursday, December 13, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
One castaway feels hurt by what she considers to be a personal rejection by someone she had liked. A feast on the Great Wall of China has its diners excited…until they realize they have no idea what to do with it! One overly confident castaway is oblivious to what a close ally is considering. An unexpected bond emerges that threatens to shake up the game as it heads into the Final Four.

KuwabaraTheMan

12-14-2007, 12:46 PM

So long, Peih-Gee. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. She was such a whiner this episode.

Of course, the complaints about the reward food were just in poor taste. It beats freaking starving on the beach, so man up.

So we've got an interesting Final Four here.

I'd love for Denise to win, but she really needs to win the Final 4 immunity to accomplish that. The other three can all recognize that she's the most likable candidate.

If not Denise, than I'd like Todd to win. He's been a really colorful character to watch all season long.

Burgundy Ranger

12-14-2007, 05:40 PM

One thing I noticed from the Sunday finale promo that's VERY significant was this line:

"Four Survivors, THREE Tribal Councils ...."

EDIT: But that doesn't mean a return to a Final Two -- although the math suggests it might. The third is a bogus "America's Tribal Council" where the winner of the online vote is awarded $100,000.

The Penguin

12-16-2007, 07:51 PM

Checking in quick on the last few weeks...

James really let himself blindsided by his tribe. Perhpas they shouldn't have bitten the apple, but James seemed like he was suspicious, but then he took no action. With two idols you think he could have used one.

Erik was a not very surprising elimination with Peih-Gee sitting there with that necklace around her neck. The family episode is always really nice. I suppose Jonny Fairplay made people think it, but I thought it was terrible that Courtney though Todd was laying about his little sister miscarrying and actually joked about it.

Peih-Gee had to be the most unsympathetic underdog in Survivor history. She just could not keep her mouth shut. She took Denise to the temple to work on her, she brought it up right away in the plane. Denise could have repaid that, but it's not as if Peih-Gee did it out of the goodness of her heart. I am so glad she doesn't have a chance at winning.

Of course, the complaints about the reward food were just in poor taste. It beats freaking starving on the beach, so man up.I kind of understood what Denise, Courtney and Todd were doing though. You get back and people ask how it went, the food confused them. If I were them and had the same experience, that's what I would have said. I didn't think they really harped on it, they just mentioned it and it angered, Peih-Gee and Amanda.

The Penguin

12-16-2007, 08:00 PM

After fighting off Tribal Council being against her for weeks, Peih-Gee was finally sent to the jury, leaving the final four standing. Who will be voted off tonight? Or pehaps a better question, who will be the Sole Survivor?

http://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/cbs1.jpghttp://library.toonzone.net/talkbacks/survivor.jpg"A Slippery Little Sucker"
Sunday, December 15, 2007 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on CBS
One castaway is surprised by the revelation of another, prompting paranoia to hit an all-time high. During the final Immunity Challenge, one castaway feels vulnerable and tries to swing a deal to get to the final three. Will the competitor bite? One castaway grows upset when someone considered a close friend makes that castaway look bad in front of the Jury. In the end, the final three are held accountable for their actions as the Jury decides who will win one million dollars and the title of Sole Survivor.

Jin Kazama

12-16-2007, 10:41 PM

Burgundy Ranger

12-17-2007, 10:56 AM

I'm upset that they did the final three vote thing again this year. Never liked that.

But it does raise that question, if that last vote was for Courtney, how would they do a tie-breaker?I don't know. I'm sure a producer knew the final vote results before Jeff read them. I'm thinking a re-vote of the 7 jury members -- but only for one of the two tied players. No tie possible then.

I'm surprised to hear Jeff call James' no-idol-play "the biggest blunder in the history of this game." But he had two idols and only three remaining chances to play them.

But of course, you only know that it's a blunder after the fact.

James is probably not so worried about it now with $100G in his pocket.

The next one sounds interesting -- a tribe of "superfans" (people who have been obsessed with the show since Borneo) vs. a tribe of all-stars who have played before, including one from the China game.

I really like the gesture the producers made in giving Denise the $50,000 -- she got royally hosed by her school in not giving her her lunch-line job back. "Too distracting?" You see her for, what- a minute?, when you walk through and get your meatloaf and mashed-potatoes-from-a-box.

Also, did I miss something or was Ashley the only one who was completely ignored in Jeff's Q-and-A in the reunion show? (Of course, you couldn't help but see 'her' when they had a closeup on Jean-Robert)

KuwabaraTheMan

12-17-2007, 01:32 PM

Congrats to Todd. You outwitted, outplayed and outlasted a great group of competitors, and kept everything under control the whole time.

He played a brilliant Final Tribal Council, while Amanda, who had otherwise played a fairly good game, and I thought might win, was caught issuing out half-assed apologies, and Courtney tried to play the 'no one thought I'd be here' card.

I would have liked to see Denise win, but she just didn't have a real shot without Immunity. She was too well-liked for any of them to feel comfortable with her there.

I'm glad that we finally got a split Final Vote. Since the 3 person final was established, we got a 5-4-0 and a 9-0-0. This was the first time there were really 3 people in the running.

I wonder if now that they've gotten that, Burnett and co will return to a 2 person format (which would also trip up people who are now planning for a Final 3, especially since next season will be all hardcore fans and vets).

It was great to see James win the extra vote, and Denise get some support from Burnett. I was surprised Peih-Gee was in the Top 3 of voting, however. People like her?

Next season looks really interesting. A group of hardcore fans vs a group of past Survivors.

I'm looking forward to seeing how that all plays out.

I kind of understood what Denise, Courtney and Todd were doing though. You get back and people ask how it went, the food confused them. If I were them and had the same experience, that's what I would have said. I didn't think they really harped on it, they just mentioned it and it angered, Peih-Gee and Amanda.

If they had just mentioned it once, that's fine. But I think at least one of them (Courtney?) started harping on it again at Tribal. That's what felt low to me.

bigddan11

12-17-2007, 01:41 PM

KuwabaraTheMan

12-17-2007, 02:18 PM

I honestly didn't care who won. I hated Todd the moment I saw him and would have preferred for Ashley to win. Courtney was the wild card who I never thought should be in the game. I might catch next season, but I've lost most of the interest I originally had in Survivor.

You mean the same Ashley who was such an amazing competitor that she lasted all of 6 days on the Island?

Unless you meant to say Amanda. I would have been alright with her winning, but Todd simply played a much better game, and didn't come out like a lame duck in front of the Jury like she did.

The Penguin

12-17-2007, 08:13 PM

Todd has been the rightful winner for a long time now, especially after the dominating James was taken out. I'm glad Peih-Gee didn't make it, I was getting so tired of her and was pleased she didn't have a chance to win. Denise does not have it easy, but I don't like "who needs it most?" to be a voting factor, so I was pleased with her elimination, especially after we got a preview of the "this is what my life is like" argument when she was trying to get Amanda to keep her. I also say good for Amanda in not taking a deal at the end of final immunity. I could tell Denise was desperate to make a deal before she dropped her china and I bet Amanda did too.

At the reunion, I don't think it's fair to say Denise would have definitely been top three if she had gone with Peih-Gee. It would have been a tie vote, Todd (or Courtney/Amanda) wins the challenge we would likely see, Erik still goes and Denise is in a tougher position with her original alliance with no shot at all of coming along unless she wins.

The final Tribal Council was pretty much what I expected. Todd presented his case very well and half-truth or not, his answer to Jean-Robert was very good. I could tell the poker player was impressed. Amanda just didn't make much of an impact. She was Todd's coconspirator for pretty much the whole game and then tried to make herself out as the anti-Todd. It clearly didn't work. As the "third" person almost always does, Courtney had to try and put a spin on the "no waves, I'm here, you're not" argument and she was poor representative of it. With the three, I don't know if the 'second' place person still gets the other big money, but if so, I don't like Courtney getting it. Denise was a spite vote and Frosti is just sweet on her.

The next one sounds interesting -- a tribe of "superfans" (people who have been obsessed with the show since Borneo) vs. a tribe of all-stars who have played before, including one from the China game.I was trying to decide about Survivor for next season because this season I haven't been excited leading up to new episodes, only while I was watching. This format is just what I need to keep going. If the strike continues, this could be a great season for Survivor.

I was surprised Peih-Gee was in the Top 3 of voting, however. People like her?That was my reaction too. I can only assume some people thought by how long she fought, she deserved it. Part of it was what Todd's crew decided to do.