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Lighthammer

09-10-2007, 08:01 PM

Here's the scenario:

You've been handed Cartoon Network and have TOTAL control over everything that airs there INCLUDING but not limited to Adult Swim and Toonami.

Your primary objective is ratings but you are generally free to tackle this objective in any way, shape or form that you feel is appropriate.

Explain what you would do and how you feel it would grow the network in the form of a basic proposal (use the quote tag and a centered, bold header at font size 5).

Suggestions, discussions and debates can be held in this thread but make sure the ideas for what you would do remain in your FIRST post in this thread in quotes.

On Monday, September 17th, 2007, I'll start a nomination thread for who everyone believes should be in charge of CN and we'll vote on it. All proposals will be considered final and changing there after will disqualify you from votes.

If this goes well, I may do something similar on a semi-regular basis.

Example Proposal:

Cartoon Network Proposal

By <Toonzone User>

Opening:
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Section 1:
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The above is only a suggested layout.

You may format your proposal how you see fit, but be advised the presentation of your proposal could weight in on how it's received by your target audience.

There is no limit to the size of your proposal (for this run at least).

Good Luck and have fun!!!

Working Proposals:
In ABC order by user name

Listed below are complete or somewhat complete proposals. If you intended your 'suggestions' to be an actual proposal either consider formating as such or sending me a PM to review it.

Antiyonder (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646472&postcount=14)
Beefy (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2649689&postcount=54)
btv (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2647277&postcount=38)
Cloud5543 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646904&postcount=29)
Don_East (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646234&postcount=5)
Dr.Pepper (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2647066&postcount=34)
hobbyfan (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646676&postcount=20)
John Dorian (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646682&postcount=21) - schedule (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2648677&postcount=45)
Jyose (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2647618&postcount=39)
kempobot (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2651168&postcount=55)
Knighthammer (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646147&postcount=3)
macattack (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2651880&postcount=61)
Movie06 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646777&postcount=24)
NinjaJack (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2648284&postcount=41)
NintyScreen (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646856&postcount=26)
Road Runner (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2649398&postcount=52)
Silverstar (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646626&postcount=17)
Spyro99 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2646875&postcount=27)
Tea (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2649189&postcount=49)Updated through post #62.

If your proposal is not listed, please send me a PM.

Space Cadet

09-10-2007, 08:02 PM

I think this is better off on the CN forums since this is about all of CN, not just Toonami.

Lighthammer

09-10-2007, 08:19 PM

Cartoon Network Proposal
by Knighthammer

Opening:
Cartoon Network has continuously distanced itself from it's core brand over the last several years. During this time, products that have proven popular have been used as a crutch in an attempt to maintain ratings while older series are all but forgotten about. It is my intent to make a more well rounded network that takes advantage of the library available as well as look towards new series to the network to open up a greater variety.

Section 1: Programing Layout
Several aspects about Cartoon Network are troubling, especially in contrast to years past. The first act shall be creating standardization throughout the network.

1. Cartoon Network Block Program
The Cartoon Network Block Program is designed localize similar series in two hour chunks.

The idea behind this is that people who find themselves available to watch TV at specific times and tune into Cartoon Network to find one series or episode they like in a given block, they will likely find several programs in that same chunk enjoyable.

This allows Cartoon Network to grow specific brands with audiences and to help to connect adverses with target audiences.
Cartoon Network will hence forth be divided into two hour blocks for all weekday programing similar to Toonami for weekday scheduling.
Cartoon Network will carry several four hour weekend blocks that will be designed based upon responses from 'Prime Blocks'. These blocks will be played Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Several blocks will be entitled as 'Prime Blocks'. These blocks will generally carry newer series and be designed around a similar weekend four hour block
Initially all blocks will carry somewhat generic Cartoon Network bumpers that will convey to the viewers the contents of the block.
Each Block will be mandated to carry some identity to it but a complete graphics package is not required or wanted due to over all cost of development.
Complete Block graphics packages will be planned to be release one new complete block package every two to eight weeks based on development time and production cost.
After all graphics packages are complete, 'Prime' blocks such as Toonami and Cartoon, Cartoons will be guaranteed a new graphics package no less then once per year starting during Fall Premiers.
All graphics packages are to be developed so that they can allow for minor seasonal changes such as Halloween and Christmas.
Each Block will periodically list on TV all shows currently running in its block as well as the previous and next block.
All Blocks are required to advertise 'Prime Block' content2. Cartoon Network Premier Policy
Cartoon Network is to manage premier series cautiously to ensure they are not over used or over played.
Except under special conditions, no series is allowed to be played more then once per day. This includes Cut and Uncut series.
Series that have have a complete run in the United States either by syndication or regular broadcast will not be considered premier series under any circumstances. This includes but is not limited to series that have been run Cut while Cartoon Network premiers uncut versions.
A Premier Series that have not been played in the United States in full on regular broadcast networks can but are not required to be known as Cartoon Network Premier series.
Except under special conditions, *ALL CARTOON NETWORK PREMIERS* must occur in weekend blocks.
All series considered Cartoon Network Premiers will not be allowed to be shown during weekday blocks unless the series has accumulated 50 or more episodes broadcast on Cartoon Network. Even when this has occurred, season may only show all seasons up to but not including the current season.
All series broadcast on Cartoon Network will be considered to have 13 week seasons. This mandate is for internal use only and does not directly effect purchasing of series from distributors.
Section 2: Programing
See Cartoon Network Fantasy Schedule (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pjEdltM-fd11BigusGVJeKA&inv=charlesmrhoads@gmail.com&t=1644082338912428563&guest)
Programming will be divided in thirteen week periods and programming will be locked for that duration.
Programming may change four times per year, generally, at the beginning of Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter.
Program blocks are to be rated based on all audiences. If a particular block is found to be attracting one audience over the intended target audience, the block will not be significantly changed since it is reaching *A* audience; however, promotion policies may be adjusted to help the growth of the viewership of that block with the successful target audience.
Blocks will add, change or remove programs based on the successful audience, not the target audience.
If the original block is found to not be reaching the original intended target audience, its target will be changed!

Good luck to everyone else =)

The Nameless

09-10-2007, 08:44 PM

Let's see... I have total control of CN... things I'd do:

1. Bring Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken/I Am Weasel, and The Powerpuff Girls back into rotation.
2. Bring back the original logo.
3. Adult Swim (at least Family Guy, American Dad! and Robot Chicken) would move to TBS.
4. Take advantage of Time Warner's vast animation library with two new channels: Cartoon Network Too (US) and Toonami. CN-Too would have more of an emphasis on animated movies, and Toonami would focus on action cartoons and anime.
5. Boomerang would be renamed "Cartoon Network Classic". Also, any shows made after 1989 would not air, as well as those shorts with Bernard/Monstories/that girl with all those dogs.

So, there you have it. Now if only I could get my hands on the rest of Turner.

Don_East

09-10-2007, 09:33 PM

Cartoon Network Proposal

By Don_East

Opening:
In October 1st, 1992, Cartoon Network was on the air. Showing Hanna-Barbera shows and old MGM shorts at first, but would eventually expand it's library with Looney Tunes and new cartoons created by such aspiring cartoonists as Craig McCracken & Genndy Tartakovsky. Fast forward 15 years later, Cartoon Network has fallen hard. Being beaten by Disney Channel & Nickelodeon in the ratings, Cartoon Network has gotten the point to even show live action for ratings. What was once "The Best Place For Cartoons" has now pathetic. This is a proposal on how would I do to fix it.

Section 1 Rebuilding A Network:

Making Peace With Warner Bros:
To be successful, we must make peace with the second half of our parent company. With WB allowing Disney to show their own series, it might hurt us. We must atleast try to bury the hatchet and if we are successful, Looney Tunes & other WB shows will be back in the schedule like it never had in 5 years. Remember, Looney Tunes was a strong part of our lineup and Warner will eventually lose money from the deal with Disney in the long run if we don't stop it.
Bring Back The Big Pick:

The quality of the current shows since 2006 have been mediocre at best. The Big Pick or some variation of it must return. Two of our best shows, "Codename: Kids Next Door" & "The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy" were green lit because our audience loved the pilots so much they wanted to see it as a series. In order to increase the chance of making shows of that quality than the chances of making another Squirrel Boy, the return of this event is necessary.
Oversee Adult Swim's Programming:

Our programming block Adult Swim has fallen off the same horse. Doing things including being dependent on certain shows leading to oversaturation, picking up shows without the knowledge of it's quality, and showing live-action on a semi daily basis as I am typing this. Just because it's now a seperate network like your rival channel, doesn't mean it can go out of control. It's up to us to put control to what started as a one night a week block. We will examine what will be picked up, judge for our and compare our thoughts with a test group. We shall move all Anime premires to Thursday and remove Friday & Saturday editions of Adult Swim completely. The reason for the latter is because children(our main audience) would stay up late would most likely watch our network. Unfortunately, with Adult Swim taking those nights currently, that advantage has been taken away. Friday will be a repeat of the Friday schedule, for Saturday, read section two.
Section 2 Regaining A Legacy:

Bring Back Toonami To Weekdays, Create New Blocks For Saturday:
With the popularity of Naruto rising and the failure of Miguzi. We need to bring our longest running program block to it's original weekday strip. It will go from the 4:00 PM(Eastern)/3:00 PM(Central) to primetime. Dishing out shows like Naruto, One Piece, The Batman, Teen Titans, Ben 10, and of course Dragonball Z. In 2008, when we have enough episodes, Transformers Animated will be shown on the block. As stated, Saturday would no longer have Toonami & Adult Swim, so what to do? Remember that block called "Saturday Video Entertainment System"?

I'm surprised if you did, well we should try to bring that back in Toonami's place. Only this time, make the shows all video game related. This includes showing recent shows such as Pokemon, Kirby, Right Back At Ya, & Megaman Star Force. And hey, let's show some guts and show some American cartoons from the last century, namely the Super Mario cartoons, the 90s Mega Man cartoon, & "Captain N: The Game Master". We should remember that Saturday is the least watched night on TV, so let's go crazy, how about the return of Space Ghost Coast To Coast to kick off the "Saturday Night Club", not the Adult Swim one, but the original SGC2C from the 90s. We should bring back the format of the talk show and a more kid friendly but still the same one liner packed, bug blastin, 60s super hero comedy it's known for back in it's prime. The night would be followed by The Flintstones, The Jetsons, & Top Cat, until the 6:00 AM(Eastern)/5:00 AM(Central) would be the SVES line-up from earlier.
Only show one show twice a day:
Repetition is a big flaw in our current schedule. Kids will get tired of seeing the same episode of "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" & "Pokemon". We need more variety, we have a library of 1000s of shows, how about we use it? Bring back Yogi Bear, and the original Scooby Doo, kids know who they are since they appear on Billy & Mandy. We should
Don't Be Like The Others And Return To The Original Motto:
With Disney Channel is starting to move it cartoons off the schedule and Nickelodeon's new found addiction to teen targeted live action shows. This is not the time to be the same, this the time to shine our uniqueness. By reverting to what we were in 1995-1997(including our classic logo), you can make an ad strong campaign that jabs the two rival networks' live action. And praise the concept that you once held, banish live action shows such as "Out Of Jimmy's Head", "Saul Of The Mole Men", all "Goosebumps" related shows, and all live action movies that we have shown off the schedule, permanently.Closing:
Doing that, we shall be the be one that stands out in the aisles of lookalikes & wannabes. We should try to be the one that everyone watches because we're different. It's okay to be different, might even be cool to be different.

We are strong, we are unique, we are Cartoon Network... (Soon To Be) The Best Place For Cartoons.

Lighthammer

09-10-2007, 10:16 PM

Bravo Don, just what I'd expect from you =).

Very complete summary of the problems and solutions to fix them =).

Movie06

09-10-2007, 10:49 PM

Gokou Ruri

09-10-2007, 11:37 PM

Make better live-action shows than Out of Jimmy's Head to rival Hannah Montana and Zoey 101.

All that really needs to be changed for CN to be successful.

Space Cadet

09-10-2007, 11:46 PM

Make better live-action shows than Out of Jimmy's Head to rival Hannah Montana and Zoey 101.

All that really needs to be changed for CN to be successful.

I guess CN should change their name as well?:sad:

Jeff Harris

09-10-2007, 11:49 PM

Gokou Ruri

09-11-2007, 12:02 AM

I guess CN should change their name as well?:sad: Didn't they change the name to just "CN". Maybe they want the C to mean something else, like Children's :sweat:

Master Moron

09-11-2007, 12:07 AM

I would hire Sketch as head of scheduling.

Dark Fact

09-11-2007, 12:10 AM

How would I run CN? Hmmm... :shrug:

*points at Larry* Hey Larry, you're fired! *points at Bob* Bob, go get me my sandwiches.

Antiyonder

09-11-2007, 12:29 AM

Fro the moment I don't believe any of the shows on the network are horrible (some are better than others), so of course extreme repeats have to go.

I'd make Toonami a weekday event again. Using Miguzi type programs to bridge the gap between Cartoon Cartoons and Toonami. Shows like:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Totally Spies
Ben 10
Pokemon Classics
Pokemon (Current Series, which for now Diamond and Pearl)

For the airings of Dragonball Z I'd incorporate:

- The original Dragonball episodes since in the original Japanese manga they were considered the same series.
- Use the Uncut episodes of DBZ. Between DB's 155 episodes and DBZ's 291 episodes, you'd have 446 episodes. Hence it would take an awfully long time for Dragonball to get stale. Maybe an hour airing at the very least.

Since the network is having non-adult swim shows with a PG rating I'd try again for Case Closed/Detective Conan. Done right, it would be a good way to get fans of Law & Order and CSI Miami into cartoons.

For Adult Swim I'd take away some repeat airings to add an hour of Adult Swim Classics. The beauty of it is that most of them have 39 half hours of material and therefore can air in rotation. Space Ghost Coast To Coast would be included. An idea that someone came up with would be for Saturday's to include Uncut episodes of SGC2C.

Bones Justice

09-11-2007, 12:46 AM

I'd hire that guy that does the narration for the Adult Swim bumpers with the pie charts. He's always saying they need to invest more in: booze, cigarettes, and strippers. It's not about cartoons, it's about ratings, and that should get ratings.

Movie06

09-11-2007, 12:55 AM

So, you'd pretty much keep it as it is?

Hmm. Guess you'd like groceries at Toys R Us or clothes at Best Buy also (http://www.thexbridge.com/wts157.html), eh?

I'll do my list in a future Scratchbuilding article on the site in a couple of weeks.

But I would air better material, I mean get rid of Out of Jimmy's Head and bring in something better like Kamen Rider and Detective Conan/Case Closed.

Silverstar

09-11-2007, 08:27 AM

Well, if I ran Cartoon Network: For starters, I would renew Teen Titans. Second, I would rerun alot of the older CN shows. Third, keep Adult Swim. Fourth, air whatever film I feel that is approraite to air on CN and AS whether it's animated or live action. And last but not least, air alot of Anime shows on CN or AS.

Frankly, I don't see how your proposal is any different from what they're already doing right now, aside from the Teen Titans renewal (which I don't agree with, BTW; IMHO, TT jumped the shark at season 5, and I personally don't need nor want to see any more of that show).

By choosing to show "whatever you feel is appropriate, whether it's animated or live-action", you're just doing what CN is already doing: selling out, losing sight of the channel's original objective and turning the network into a random pop-culture junk channel. You might as well just change the channel's name to "Movie06's Whatever Network".

LIVE ACTION SHOWS AND MOVIES DO NOT BELONG ON A CHANNEL CALLED CARTOON NETWORK. I don't see why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

That said, here's what I'd do:

1. NO MORE LIVE-ACTION SHOWS OR MOVIES. No more of this 'trying to be like Nick or Disney' garbage. Cartoon Network earned fans by being different from those channels. The ONLY live-action you'd see on CN would be the occasional live host or guest, like Carrot Top or the guest stars on Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, and the ONLY live-action movies you'd see would be the ones which featured animation, CGI or rotoscoping.

2. Bring back the 'toon city' bumps. Start actually writing bumpers again. No more of this random stuff that isn't funny and insults the intelligence of the average houseplant.

3. Bring in a higher caliber of original animated shows for prime-time. Usher in a new golden age for the Cartoon-Cartoons.

4. Air a 'Boomerang Block' to air at certain intervals, showcasing the classic animated shorts and 60's to 80's cartoon shows for the benefit of those who don't have Boomerang.

5. Air a 'Classic Cartoon-Cartoon' block. Any Cartoon Cartoon made before 2004 would fall into this category.

6. Bring back Tickle U., or some other preschool block for the kiddies, airing from about 9 a.m. to about 1 or 2 p.m., so CN won't have to just repeat Foster's, A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, Billy & Mandy and Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy all morning and early afternoon.

7. Revive Toonami by placing a wider variety of action shows on it, not just niche anime.

8. Create a Toonami offshoot specializing in action shows which appeal to girls. Kind of like Miguzi, only good.

9. Bring back Cartoon-Cartoon Fridays.

10. Bring back Late Night Black and White and Toon Heads, which would air the nights that [adult swim] doesn't air. No more [as] 7 nights a week. It's just overkill, IMO. Either run [as] only on weeknights or on weekend nights, not both.

11. Create a series which showcases animated short subjects of an 'artier' nature, similar to MTV's Liquid Television, TechTV's Eye Drops or O Canada. (This show could serve as a possible lead-in to [as], Late Night B&W or Toon Heads.)

Blackstar

09-11-2007, 09:14 AM

Make better live-action shows than Out of Jimmy's Head to rival Hannah Montana and Zoey 101.

No. Just, no.

NO live-action series, good or bad, should be airing on Cartoon Network! Let the Disney Channel be the teenybopper sitcom network, and CN can handle the cutting edge animation.

Well, if I ran Cartoon Network: For starters, I would renew Teen Titans. Second, I would rerun alot of the older CN shows. Third, keep Adult Swim. Fourth, air whatever film I feel that is approraite to air on CN and AS whether it's animated or live action. And last but not least, air a lot of Anime shows on CN or AS.

*Face palm*

So what would the new name of your channel be? Since there would be no frelling point in keeping the word 'Cartoon' in the name when half of the programming is non-animated.

Neo Ultra Mike

09-11-2007, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Silverstar
11. Create a series which showcases animated short subjects of an 'artier' nature, similar to MTV's Liquid Television, TechTV's Eye Drops or O Canada. (This show could serve as a possible lead-in to [as], Late Night B&W or Toon Heads.)

Actually Cartoon Network did have that for a short while a couple years back. Sunday Pants, which was actually not just aimed at little kids either and showcased a pretty good variety of arty and generally weird yet different shorts. But that got cancelled quickly since it wasn't bringing in ratings/CN idioticy. Otherwise I have to agree with everything Silverstar said, espically the thing about no live action shows. Seriously CN even if you build it kids aren't going to come to watch it like it was on Nick or Disney channel so you really shouldn't be bothering to destroy you're image just to try and snag some more viewers you aren't going to get anyway.

hobbyfan

09-11-2007, 10:33 AM

Cartoon Network Proposal

by Hobbyfan

Cartoon Network has long since lost its focus. They've seen the competition leap past them in the ratings, so they feel the only way they can compete is to do the same as the competition and shove their most popular shows down the viewers' throats, forgetting that their fan base goes beyond the target demographic. How do we fix that? By eliminating clutter and cutting off any oversaturation.

Start in the morning. A block of "classic" Cartoon-Cartoons that really aren't ready to be pastured out to Boomerang would open things from 6-9 am. Each show would get 2 episodes:

6: Dexter's Laboratory
7: Powerpuff Girls
8: Johnny Bravo

The next step is to bring Tickle U back for another go-round. This block goes head-to-head with Nick, Jr., and would allow for Baby Looney Tunes, Gerald McBoing-Boing, & Krypto to be brought back over from Da Boom. Figure Tickle U to run from 9-2.

Like everyone else, I'd rather see Toonami return to weekdays, and in this case, use it as a equivalent to "afternoon drive" in radio, hence blocking it from 2-7. A sample lineup looks like this:

2: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
2:30: Totally Spies
3: Pokemon (2 episodes)
4: Ben 10
4:30: Xiolain Showdown
5: Justice League (Unlimited)(moves over from Boomerang)(2 episodes)
6: Teen Titans
6:30: Naruto

Prime time would be from 7-11. Here's a sample:

7: Courage the Cowardly Dog
7:30: Ed, Edd, & Eddy
8: Foster's Home
8:30: Codename: Kids Next Door
9: Grim Advs. of Billy & Mandy
9:30: Ben 10 (repeat)
10: Justice League
10:30: Teen Titans (repeat)

The above would be for Monday-Friday. No more specializing the Friday lineup. New stuff would air on Sundays.

Late night would see Adult Swim scaled back to weekends. Comedy on Friday & Sunday, action on Saturday. Monday-Thursday sees the following:

11: Toon Heads (1 hr.)
12-6: Late Night Black & White

Shows like Dragon Ball Z would be fitted into [as].

Saturdays would be programmed thus:

6: Mike, Lu, & Og
7: Cow & Chicken
8: Squirrel Boy
8:30: My Gym Partner's a Monkey
9: Camp Lazlo
9:30 Team Galaxy
10: Storm Hawks
10:30: Pokemon
11: Fantastic Four
11:30: Ben 10
12: Class of 3000
12:30: Teen Titans
1: Megas XLR
1:30: Codename: Kids Next Door
2: Billy & Mandy
2:30: Foster's Home
3: Cartoon Theatre (animated films only!)
5: Totally Spies
5:30: Teen Titans
6: Class of 3000
6:30: Ben 10

7-11 wouldn't be Toonami anymore, but rather a relaunch of the SVES format:

7: Transformers
7:30: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
8: Fantastic Four
8:30: Team Galaxy
9: Naruto
9:30: Storm Hawks
10: Zatch Bell (2 eps)

11-6: [as]

Sundays won't be much different, except that Cartoon Theatre would air at 10, just like in the old days, with Dexter, the Powerpuffs, and Johnny Bravo airing from 3-6. Sunday prime time would be for premieres of Camp Lazlo, Class of 3000, Squirrel Boy, Gym Partner, Team Galaxy, & Storm Hawks from 7-10. We would run the New Scooby-Doo Movies Sundays at 6, and a full hour of Justice League at 10 on Sundays. Adult Swim I will leave to your imagination.

Nexonius

09-11-2007, 10:48 AM

John Dorian to the rescue!

Now back to "Good Eats" with John Dorian!

Episode #277: CN Cake.

Hi guys! I tell you how to change CN, Network, The Nothing, Cartoon Whosists, The Whatever Network with my secret recipe.

First (Listen),

Fire Richard Parsons from Time Warner (He cares so much about AOL and Time Warner Cable, and not CN).

Fire the head (Stuart Synder), Rico Hill and everyone else that's responsible for making the network to what it is today, a lost cause.

Kick Jimmy, Blake, Saul, Tim, Eric, and all the other dumb "better-than-you" children out of CN.

Here's the ingredients:

-No Live Action. Ever. Let the commercials (NOT CN made) have Live Action. But they can have hybrid movies like Space Jam, The Pagemaster, and Looney Tunes: Back In Action. Puppets and monsters (Goosebumps) doesn't count.

-Make The Network "Get Animated" themselves.

- Don't make bumpers during the show. What if we miss something on the bottom? It'll be because of your dumb unnecessary bumpers.

-Bring back old Cartoons Cartoons that made them popular and NOT on the Top 5.

-Make new or bring back the 2004-06 CGI Cityscape bumpers instead of "challenged children" ruining the word "intelligence" with their stupid laughing.

-Make good shows, from new people WITH talent, not old hasbeen creators like Joe Murray and Everett Peck, who created one of the best cult toons ever to 9 years later to having one of the worst shows on CN.

- Stop the Camp Lazlo / Gym Partner / Squirrel Boy / Foster's marathon madness.

- Put back the classics like The Flintstones and The Jetsons and Yogi Bear.

- Acquire some of the Fox Kids library and good anime , like Eek!, Monster Rancher and other caged shows from Disney and others.

- Bring back Toonami to weekdays with good acquisitions.

-Fix the schedule. Indefinably CHANGE the schedule for goodness sakes.

-Stop the Adult Swim 7 nights-A-Week thing. It's just reruns of adult shows. Make it 5 days again.

-And make a pilot show where cartoonists can create anything they like thats good, not just making the same old stupid camp or human or school cartoon crap starring kids.

-Bring Pogo to the US to put the Live Action on there.

- Make peace with Warner Bros.

-And.......REDO the website. It's a mess. Too much Jimmy faces popping up on there. And Blake too.

Make CN Video available to Mac and use only old Cartoon Cartoons, not new shows and Out Of Jimmy's Head.

Now, mix all of it together. Put the Network in the oven for six months.

Put it on 1000 degrees. Let it bake fast. Very swiftly.

Take it out, let it cool off for a week. Now, spread some frosting (Good executives) on there to make it sweet and tasty.

And enjoy! You made a successful network cake.

-John

Silverstar

09-11-2007, 11:31 AM

Seriously CN even if you build it kids aren't going to come to watch it like it was on Nick or Disney channel so you really shouldn't be bothering to destroy you're image just to try and snag some more viewers you aren't going to get anyway.

Exactly. This 'teen/tween' kick CN is currently on isn't scoring them the Nick/Disney ratings that they so desperately crave, so why even bother doing it? Cartoon Network may not have been perfect, but wasn't exactly broken before, so really what is this Disney/Nick makeover going to fix?

Lighthammer

09-11-2007, 12:10 PM

Nice post John =)

Movie06

09-11-2007, 02:19 PM

Stop the Camp Lazlo / Gym Partner / Squirrel Boy / Foster's marathon madness.

I forgot to include that, I would definately get rid of those shows and their marathons another thing, if I ran CN is to bring back Toonami back to Weekdays, Saturdays included but none for Sunday and this would by my Toonami schedule

Mon.-Fri.:
4:00 p.m.-Dragon Ball Z
4:30 p.m.-Code Lyoko
5:00 p.m.-Ben 10
5:30 p.m.-Teen Titans
6:00-p.m.-Naruto
6:30 p.m.-Sailor Moon

Saturday:
7:00 p.m.-Dragon Ball Z
7:30 p.m.-Batman: The Animated Series
8:00 p.m.-Transformers: Generation One
8:30 p.m.-Superman: The Animated Series
9:00 p.m.-Naruto
9:30 p.m.-Batman Beyond
10:00 p.m.-Sailor Moon
10:30 p.m.-Justice League (Unlimited)

And by live action films, I was talking about airing live actions that would later become cartoons themselves such as Back to the Future and Beetlejuice for example. Those films that I feel that are most approiate to air on CN.

Jeff Harris

09-11-2007, 02:30 PM

And by live action films, I was talking about airing live actions that would later become cartoons themselves such as Back to the Future and Beetlejuice for example. Those films that I feel that are most appropriate to air on CN.Here's a thought . . . how about actually airing the actual cartoons rather than showing the movie that inspired the cartoon? I wouldn't mind seeing the Bill and Ted cartoon one more time . . . the Hanna-Barbera-produced season with Alex, Keanu, and George portraying Bill, Ted, and Rufus, respectfully, not the DiC-produced season.

Otherwise, you're fighting a losing battle here, friend.

simpsonsfan

09-11-2007, 04:19 PM

The CN Solution

By <Spyro99>

Opening: When Cartoon Network premired in 1992 it was originally for classic Hanna-Barbara cartoons. But, as the years passed Cartoon Network progressed towards what it is today a place without the classics and even their originals or Cartoon Cartoons aren't even shown anymore except for Ed, Edd 'n Eddy. Now all that has been going on is that they have been showing Camp Lazlo, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends and Ben 10 way to much and need to have a variety of shows from the past until now. This goal can be completed by Cartoon Network's schedule being revamped.

Section 1: Programming Policies

1. Programming for CN will be put into blocks and all new episodes which now air weeknights will be moved to only Sundays with Toonami coming back to Monday thru Friday and new episodes airing Sunday nights.

2. If episodes haven't been premired during a Sunday they can't be shown on weekdays.

Section 2: Blocks

1. Cartoon Network will now be diveded into blocks of certain shows like Toonami, Miguzi, Kids WB! on CN, Anime Action and other blocks.

Section 3: Live Action

1. Cartoon Network's new policy of live action shows and movies is that they can't show it unless it has more than half animation (ie. Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Space Jam, Looney Tunes Back in Action, etc.) to ensure that this network will be known as the cartoon network of cable.

Section 4: Slogan

1. Cartoon Network will also have a new slogan If it's not a Toon then it's not Cartoon Network!

Section 5: Name and Icon

1. Cartoon Network will now officially be called on air The Cartoon Net or TCN which will be the logo with the same balck and white lettering like it is now.

Schedule for the new TCN:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pM-0BGHWm9DQI8yVUq749Mg! :zoidberg:

.bg

09-11-2007, 04:45 PM

Proposal for Cartoon Network

Shut down the network, or rename it to Turner Kids.

That is all.

shadowspiderider

09-11-2007, 04:52 PM

I IN CHARGE OF CN - i do put all gundam shows on cn and i takeout all adlut swim shows and i put friendly cartoon shows on cn

Silverstar

09-11-2007, 05:33 PM

By live action films, I was talking about airing live actions that would later become cartoons themselves such as Back to the Future and Beetlejuice for example. Those films that I feel that are most appropriate to air on CN.

I disagree. NO live-action movie, good or bad, is appropriate for Cartoon Network, unless it's a hybrid which prominently features animation or CGI (i.e., Roger Rabbit, Space Jam, The Phantom Tollbooth).

If a movie inspired a cartoon, show the CARTOON, not the live-action movie that inspired it.

Antiyonder

09-11-2007, 05:37 PM

Definately yes on the cartoon block which corresponds with a live action movie.

Also, as far as rerunning particular classics, I'd take advantage of the episode numbers and put them in rotation, thus being able to add shows without removing them. Everyone wins.

Cutback on the schoolbased toons. Nothing wrong with them in small doses, but when they become the rule, then it's time to change. Giving the audience too much of what they want is just as much as hassle as keeping a show they don't like.

Also, wouldn't cater to terrorist (aka angry parents). Just because a few neglectful parents throw a fit doesn't mean the majority share their censorship views. If anything, I'd report them for negligence. Take that fire that was started on account of Beavis & Butthead. Where were the parents when the tragedy occured?

Arithmetician

09-11-2007, 05:41 PM

I'd scrap the whole channel, replacing it with Boomerang.

Dr.Pepper

09-11-2007, 07:08 PM

Antiyonder

09-11-2007, 07:16 PM

Have some preschool block weekday mornings

Personally if preschool shows are necessary, then there should be a network solely designed for them. If it's for safe viewing, I'd say go for programs that are preschool friendly, but appealing to older viewers.

Master Toon

09-11-2007, 08:04 PM

If I was in charge this is waht I will do:
Bring back the city look
Bring back CCF
Never play any live action unless its a hybrid
Have some preschool block weekday mornings
Save marathons for special occasions
Make an adult swim channle
Bring back classics

I guess number 3 is ok but number 6, nah.

Personally if preschool shows are necessary, then there should be a network solely designed for them. If it's for safe viewing, I'd say go for programs that are preschool friendly, but appealing to older viewers.

I think a Pre-school block is a great idea. Back when I discovered CN I used to wake up and watch Small World and Big Bag.

Novapocalypse

09-11-2007, 09:29 PM

Well,I'd have to do a lot of planning,because when I finally write my thought's I will have a good schedule 24/7 to go with it.I'll do this later.

btv

09-11-2007, 10:46 PM

1) No preschool programming. That's not what Cartoon Network is. It's image is a bit more grown up then Nick's and Disney's, and the programs bomb in comparison to what the other two channels have anyway. It's a waste of time and money.
2) Bring older cartoons and cartoon cartoons back into the rotation and mix it up with the newer shows. This way, when one half hour may not supply anything you like, the next just might. Also, reruns will not be such a problem and there will be more variety and a chance to give newer CN watchers franchises to experience that have been around for a while, which might up DVD sales.
3) Toonami will be in the afternoons again in a 4-7 block. This way Saturdays won't be as crowded and Naruto will get some ratings in for the channel. Toonami could even be played during weekends.
4) Adult Swim stays as it is. It's doing fine and getting better ratings every year, which is more then I can say about a lot of programming on the channel.
5) Premieres will stay on Fridays, and that block will not feature live action unless it is CGI based movies with live action in them or ect. Movies will premiere on Sunday afternoons unless Fridays doesn't have a slated premiere.
6) Recently premiered episodes could be reran on designated slots during primetime for those who missed out, and commercials should advertise replays.
7) Get rid of Boomerang, and slide all of the shows back into the new rotation of Cartoon Network (which, by the way, the channel will no longer be referred to as 'CN').
8) Marathons stay on weekends or holidays.
9) Shows will be given a minimum of two seasons as usual. If season one suffers in the ratings, the network will give a considerable amount of effort to the show to get it's legs back into working order. Also, no shoving premieres to the side, every show gets equal treatment no matter how high or low their ratings are (this does not count for marathons).
10) Get rid of the bumpers we have now and make a new, more lived-in theme.

Jyose

09-12-2007, 01:10 AM

General CN

> Bring back the Big-Pick. All of the greatest Cartoon network originals dating back to the PPG, Cow and Chicken, and Billy and Mandy all were great because children liked the pilots. Stop constantly making comittee chosen shows like Gym Partner and Lazlo. This defenately calls for a show like What-A-Cartoon to re-appear.

>Live action goes bye-bye. As everyone says in the thread, simply because it's called Cartoon Network, not TBS Kids(not yet anyway). Let's take off our nostalgia glasses. Cartoon Network was always something of a kid's channel, it did reasonably well before things like Out of Jimmy's head. If it's not broken, don't fix it. Stop imitating Disney and Nick, and regain some damn dignity.

>Start making American action shows again. This goes back to my first point, I suppose. I'm not one to cry about an evil Japanese invasion, but why not embrase American shows that are not comedies? Megas and Samurai Jack were pretty damn awesome, even He-Man:2 had it's moments

>Stop showing marathons every day, period.
>Stop putting half screen bumpers for stupid crap.

4:00 Naruto
4:30 Bobobo
5:00 Mega Man
5:30 Papuwa (Look it up, it's perfect for toonami)
^
A week day two hours of Toonami/Miguzi what have you

Jyose

09-12-2007, 11:50 AM

Dr.Pepper

09-12-2007, 08:17 PM

> Bring back the Big-Pick. All of the greatest Cartoon network originals dating back to the PPG, Cow and Chicken, and Billy and Mandy all were great because children liked the pilots. Stop constantly making comittee chosen shows like Gym Partner and Lazlo. This defenately calls for a show like What-A-Cartoon to re-appear.
I agree

NinjaJack

09-13-2007, 01:20 AM

Cartoon Network Proposal

By <NinjaJaCK>

Opening:
Since rating have been on a roller coaster lately there need to be some solid changes to the line up. The whole dynamic of the network need not so much change but to grow into something bigger whilst remaining familiar to the public and the core audience.

Section 1:
Split the network up into three to four mega blocks that will supply the demand for straight forward cartoons, adult swim and any hybrid promotions or series we might have.
Focus less on comedy more on building up the action/drama series to help define that "Cartoon " doesn't always mean it has to be a comedy.
Bring in fresh new ideas, showcase old cartoons from the 70s to attract older college aged viewers
Find a way to fix TOMSection 2:
There needs to be more story driven series on CN. You don't think Avatar is famous just for it's looks do you?
Take the shows that we have already that are doing well and spoil them.
Consider getting Sam Register back, he might be slime, but he was the guy around when things weren`t so bad.Closing:
As it is Cartoon Network needs a hit, because once JETIX gets Clone Wars and a number of other properties, Cartoon Network is going to be running in all directions just to keep up. Better to be bold with what you have now and get those creative juices flowing before Anng destroys the Fire Nation and the other networks.

Master Toon

09-13-2007, 09:40 AM

So, you'd pretty much keep it as it is?

Hmm. Guess you'd like groceries at Toys R Us or clothes at Best Buy also (http://www.thexbridge.com/wts157.html), eh?

I don't want to bring any trouble from the AS message boards but recently someone from there who i think works for WS told me that business' change and we all have to accept it. He or she goes on to say that CN isn't all for animation but is the core. Lastly this person tells me AS is it's own network and because of that, coupled with the fact that it doesn't have 'cartoon' in it's name, AS can show whatever it wants. It's true that they can show whatever they want but when you're a programming block on CN, it makes sense to play animation, don't you think?

Silverstar

09-13-2007, 10:43 AM

Focus less on comedy more on building up the action/drama series to help define that "Cartoon " doesn't always mean it has to be a comedy.

There needs to be more story driven series on CN. You don't think Avatar is famous just for it's looks do you?

Closing:
As it is Cartoon Network needs a hit, because once JETIX gets Clone Wars and a number of other properties, Cartoon Network is going to be running in all directions just to keep up. Better to be bold with what you have now and get those creative juices flowing before Anng destroys the Fire Nation and the other networks.

Sorry, I can't agree with you here, Jack. Just because action cartoons are hot right now doesn't mean that that should be all there is on CN. As much as I enjoy a good action toon, my first love will always be comedy. I realize that CN's comedy cartoons of late haven't been all that great, but that's not an indication that CN should completely abandon their comedy cartoons. CN needs BETTER comedies, not LESS of them.

Also, I get that you like Avatar, but that doesn't mean that every network has to have their own Avatar-like show. Not everyone is into Avatar. I myself find it to be very boring and generic, but that's just me. Let Nick have Avatar; I'd rather CN pioneer with its' own hits rather than just following some trend and making some Avatar-wannabe show.

Ideally, CN shouldn't be all action anymore than it should all comedy, just like it shouldn't be all teen cartoons or all cartoons for little kids or all nostalgia-based shows. Ideally, CN shouldn't be too much of any one thing, but a full buffet of cartoons of all kinds which appeals to all toon loving audiences.

Master Toon

09-13-2007, 11:19 AM

Nexonius

09-13-2007, 04:49 PM

Here's my schedule: Weekdays

NO 6 AIRINGS OF LAZLO/ FOSTER'S/ GYM PARTNER / SQUIRREL BOY!

NO LIVE ACTION!

TOONAMI ON WEEKDAY MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS.

BOOMERANG ON CN.

NEW CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING BLOCK.

CARTOON CARTOONS LIVES AGAIN.

6:00AM Transformers (All versions)
6:30AM Dragon Ball (All versions) Edited
7:00AM Teen Titans
7:30AM Megas XLR
8:00AM Zatch Bell!
8:30AM Samurai Jack

Toonami Weekday Mornings

Cartoonito (The network's in the UK, so why not?)

9:00AM Land Before Time (Mondays and Fridays) / Gerald McBoing Boing (Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thurdays, now off Boomerang permantley)

9:30AM Kyrpto The Superdog (Mondays and Fridays) / Baby Looney Tunes (Tue, Wed, Thu)

10:00AM Peppa Pig (Mon, Wed, Fri) / Firehouse Tales (Tue, Thurs)
10:30AM Harry And His Bucket Full Of Dinosaurs (Mon and Fri) / Big Bag (Tue, Wed, Thur)

Boomerang on "Cartoon" Network

11:00AM Looney Tunes (Mon, Wed, Fri) 2 hours / The Flintstones (Tuesdays & Thursdays at 11:00AM)

11:30AM (For Tuesdays and Thursdays only):
The Jetsons

12:00PM (Again, for Tuesdays and Thursdays only)

MGM (Droopy, Barney Bear, Various)

12:30PM (For Tuesdays and Thursdays only)

Yogi Bear/ Huckleberry Hound/ Loopy De Loop (And other HB 7 minute cartoons)

1:00PM Tom and Jerry (1 Hour) (Mon, Wed, Fri)

At 1:00PM on Tuesdays, it's Jabberjaw. Thursdays is Josie And The Pussy Cats.

1:30PM on Tue and Thurs is Scooby Doo (Hanna-Barbera versions, not WB's version)

Cartoon Cartoons (2 Hours of Old Cartoon Cartoons)

2:00PM to 4:00PM

2:00PM The What A Cartoon! Show and other Pilots
2:30PM The What A Cartoon! Show and other Pilots
3:00PM Dexter's Laboratory
3:30PM Dexter's Laboratory

(Mondays)

2:00PM Cow and Chicken
2:30PM Cow and Chicken / I Am Weasel also
3:00PM Johnny Bravo
3:30PM Johnny Bravo

(Tuesdays)

2:00PM The Powerpuff Girls
2:30PM The Powerpuff Girls
3:00PM Time Squad
3:00PM Time Squad

(Wednesdays)

2:00PM Mike Lu and Og
2:30PM Mike Lu and Og
3:00PM Whatever Happened To Robot Jones?
3:30PM Whatever Happened To Robot Jones?

(Thursdays)

2:00PM Grim & Evil (The original episodes only)
2:30PM Grim & Evil
3:00PM Sheep In The Big City
3:30PM Sheep In The Big City

(Fridays)

Toonami Weekdays Afternoons

4:00PM Thundercats
4:30PM Silverhawks
5:00PM The Real Adventures Of Johnny Quest
5:30PM Dragon Ball Z (Edited)
6:00PM Megas XLR
6:30PM Code LYOKO
7:00PM Naruto (ONE AIRING A DAY)
7:30PM Storm Hawks

Primetime CN (Loses an hour)

8:00PM Ed Edd n' Eddy
8:30PM Courage The Cowardly Dog
9:00PM The Grim Adventures Of Billy and Mandy
9:30PM Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends (ONE AIRING)
10:00PM Camp Lazlo (ONE AIRING)
10:30PM My Gym Partner's A Monkey (ONE AIRING)

Adult Swim (INUYASHA loses a half hour)

11:00PM American Dad!
11:30PM Family Guy
12:00AM Sealab 2021
12:15AM Harvey Birdman
12:30AM Robot Chicken
12:45AM Aqua Teen Hunger Force
1:00AM Inuyasha
1:30AM Blood+
2:00AM The Big O
2:30AM American Dad!
3:00AM Family Guy
3:30AM Sealab 2021
3:45AM Harvey Birdman
4:00AM Robot Chicken
4:15AM Aqua Teen Hunger Force
4:30AM The Big O
5:00AM Popeye
5:30AM Toon Heads

Friday Nights at 7PM

Fried Dynamite

7:00PM Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends
7:30PM Chowder (NEW)
8:00PM Camp Lazlo
8:30PM My Gym Partner's A Monkey
9:00PM The Grim Adventures Of Billy and Mandy
9:30PM Class Of 3000
10:00PM Squirrel Boy
10:30PM Ed Edd n' Eddy
11:00PM Adult Swim

Saturdays

(Cartoonito Mornings)

6:00AM The Land Before Time
6:30AM Harry And His Bucket Full Of Dinosaurs
7:00AM Peppa Pig
7:30AM Baby Looney Tunes

8:00AM Top 5

Toonami Saturday Mornings

9:00AM Pokemon
9:30AM Pokemon
10:00AM Ben 10
10:30AM Transformers Animated
11:00AM Santo
11:30AM The Secret Saturdays

Fried Dynamite Rerun Slot from:

12:00 Noon 4:00PM

4:00PM Cartoon Theater (Old WB Movies)

Toonami Saturday Nights (A hour up)

6:00PM Megas XLR
6:30PM Teen Titans
7:00PM Dragon Ball Z
7:30PM Transformers: Animated
8:00PM Storm Hawks
8:30PM Gamera
9:00PM Naruto
9:30PM Megaman Star Force
10:00PM MAR
10:30PM One Piece

Adult Swim Saturdays:

More coming soon.

Master Toon

09-13-2007, 06:45 PM

Mr. Dorian, I have no objections to your revamping, whatsoever. You sir, should be in control of CN.

laactor101

09-13-2007, 07:36 PM

First off Bring Back to Toonami on weekdays I'm tired on watching reruns of Foster's and everything else.

And don't take away Adult Swim on weeknights

I love the other blocks that they used to have on midnights but I love to laugh

Master Toon

09-13-2007, 09:52 PM

Return all of the Cartoon Cartoons

Return Toonami to weekdays

Keep AS on weeknights but get rid of Saul/Tim and Eric

Get rid of Fried Dynamite and replace it with CCF

More later

Tea

09-14-2007, 07:53 AM

I'm going to skip the format stuff if that's okay and just bullet my main ideas.

1. Get rid of all the live-action. No live action movies, no live action segments. Except Out of Jimmy's Head since that does technically have animation in it, but I'd probably rehire a lot of the actors.

2. Make sure there was an Classic Cartoon block somewhere. It could even be early in the morning, just so long as I had at least had a 30 minute period where I could recycle oldie cartoons from Boomerang on it everyday. There's fans of old cartoons out there who'd appreciate it, and it'd be good for kids to know who Bugs Bunny is anyway.

3. Renew Teen Titans. It has a wider demographic appeal than Ben 10 similar to Avatar's audience.

4. Put on a block aimed at teens. Because they do exist. And I'm sure older kids and younger adults would be interested in it, too. And by "aimed at teens," I don't mean find live action hosts that resemble the ones on MTV and slap on more live-action shows. I'm talking about the content of ANIMATED shows that aren't graphic enough to be on Adult Swim yet aren't entirely suitable for children.

5. Have a wider variety of programs. This is a biggie. I'd make sure we had a mystery series, or a horror series, or a drama, something NOT just comedy/action. Original series from new creative talent would be great for this area, but if that was not available, you could find these oddball series from anime. Hell, why not use both? Think of this like the SVES days only taken further in its variety.

6. Stop with the Flash. No offense to Foster's who is the only show I think does it right, but I find Flash animation really cheap and just not interesting to watch. Flash only really works with certain art styles--like Foster's who has a simplistic style and very few outlines. Hell, I even think Samurai Jack would have benefitted from being made in Flash. But any complicated character designs needs to stay far away from it, action series especially (sans Samurai Jack), and they need to stop using obvious tricks like squeeze-and-pull and cutting back on unique frames.

NinjaJack

09-14-2007, 09:59 AM

Sorry, I can't agree with you here, Jack. Just because action cartoons are hot right now doesn't mean that that should be all there is on CN. As much as I enjoy a good action toon, my first love will always be comedy. I realize that CN's comedy cartoons of late haven't been all that great, but that's not an indication that CN should completely abandon their comedy cartoons. CN needs BETTER comedies, not LESS of them.

Also, I get that you like Avatar, but that doesn't mean that every network has to have their own Avatar-like show. Not everyone is into Avatar. I myself find it to be very boring and generic, but that's just me. Let Nick have Avatar; I'd rather CN pioneer with its' own hits rather than just following some trend and making some Avatar-wannabe show.

Ideally, CN shouldn't be all action anymore than it should all comedy, just like it shouldn't be all teen cartoons or all cartoons for little kids or all nostalgia-based shows. Ideally, CN shouldn't be too much of any one thing, but a full buffet of cartoons of all kinds which appeals to all toon loving audiences.

Well then perhaps using Avatar is to specific. Avatar is a huge show with amazing animation sequences that are fluid and pleasing to the eye. The story is on going and there and many heroes and villains to love and or hate. We don't need bald headed teenagers on every network. But what would help would be shows at the same level of artistic commitment as Avatar. When I say Avatar, think Oban Star Racers, EXO Squad, Timmverse, high level animation shows that push the limit of what is capable in 2d.

Not saying we don't need comedies either, but as you admit the ones we have right now are lackluster. I personally hate most funny toons since they rarely lately have been funny. This disdain for most "comedy" shows comes from me growing up in the 80s and early 90s with cartoons from the 60s on up. Camp Lazlo can't hold a candle to Tiny Toons or Animaniacs.

You know whats the problem right? Networks think if you're too funny you`re OBVIOUSLY trying to milk the Family Guy market and put you on after prime time on late night to get all those college viewers. But if you're bland, yeah thats for the kids and everyone else who dosen't stay up late.

What needs to happen is that we need more Eek! The Cats and less Slacker Cats.

Silverstar

09-14-2007, 11:06 AM

Well then perhaps using Avatar is to specific. Avatar is a huge show with amazing animation sequences that are fluid and pleasing to the eye. The story is on going and there and many heroes and villains to love and or hate. We don't need bald headed teenagers on every network. But what would help would be shows at the same level of artistic commitment as Avatar. When I say Avatar, think Oban Star Racers, EXO Squad, Timmverse, high level animation shows that push the limit of what is capable in 2d.

Not saying we don't need comedies either, but as you admit the ones we have right now are lackluster. I personally hate most funny toons since they rarely lately have been funny. This disdain for most "comedy" shows comes from me growing up in the 80s and early 90s with cartoons from the 60s on up. Camp Lazlo can't hold a candle to Tiny Toons or Animaniacs.

You know whats the problem right? Networks think if you're too funny you`re OBVIOUSLY trying to milk the Family Guy market and put you on after prime time on late night to get all those college viewers. But if you're bland, yeah thats for the kids and everyone else who dosen't stay up late.

What needs to happen is that we need more Eek! The Cats and less Slacker Cats.

I couldn't agree more. :)

Road Runner

09-14-2007, 01:46 PM

JOB APPLICATION FOR PRESIDENCY OF CARTOON NETWORK
By Joshua "Road Runner" Fritz

Opening:
Nowadays, CN is the definition of low-quality TV. An evil spirit that haunts the brains of all human beings with the misfortune of tuning in. Under my management and help from the viewers, this once proud channel will be one of the main reasons people pay for cable. I'm a kid at heart who ADORES cartoons. I loathe live-action and will watch quality cartoons every time I turn on my television set.

Section 1. TOTAL CARTOON DEVOTION

I promise all my viewers absolute loyalty to the world of cartoons. No more than 1 airing of live-action will be shown weekly (do the math, that's only 5 airings of live-action a month!), IF ANY. It is up to me, my employees and the fans to help keep Cartoon Network standing. Boomerang will have slight advertising to let more people discover classic cartoons, but to a minimum so in case I lose Cartoon Network's way, Boomerang won't suffer like it's mother did. The channel is called CARTOON NETWORK, an animation channel for all ages-NO exceptions!

Section 2. FAQ

How would I handle programming?

Quality testing. I'd have a panel of 5. Me and 4 others.

Mother-Preschool and Toddlers
Father-Kids
Teenager-Teens
Adult-Adult
Me-All AgesEvery panelist would see the cartoon. They'd give their judgement, and if 2 of the panelists said "Try Again", I'd give the cartoon one final chance. If I TA'd the cartoon, I'd talk to my panelists, and give a group concensus.

Example: P1: Cool. P2: It seems thrown together. P3: You call THIS a cartoon? P4: Pass.

P5: You've burnt my eyes.

*group chatter* FINAL DECISION: Try Again.

What if the ratings bomb?

I'd demand a reschelduling from the fans and my panel. I'd pitch in, too!

How would I keep both old and new viewers watching?

Balance old and new so everyone wins 50% of the time. (Old hates new and New hates old)

How would you handle Summer scheduling?

That's the fans' job. On weekends, SUPER CHUNK will eliminate the marathon problem. Summer brings in powerful ratings, and the more happy viewers there are, the better the channel's reputation is.

Section 3: FRANCHISE HANDLING

Boomerang- Packed with adverts for the channel, Boomerang is nothing but classic cartoons from 20 years back and earlier. Old cartoons galore. If you have cartoon nostalgia, this is the block for you.
Master Control- They're all up for airing. You request it, we'll play it!
Toonami- Your daily dose of action cartoons. Hosted by TOM, Flash and D, these cartoons will give a powerful adrenaline rush. Weekdays, [6-8p] it's Cartoon Network's version of Boomeraction. Cartoons from the US and across the Atlantic Ocean are the feature of the day. On Saturday [7-11p], get your anime fix with our hottest animes. Sunday [Dynamite Action Squad], kicks off your day with a flawless hybridization of Toonami weekdays and weekends.
Fried Dynamite- BOOM! This block is Fried Dynamite, an enormous explosion of our Cartoon Cartoons and Originals. Hosted by Blake and his friends, get a glimpse of what goes on in animation studios. Want something new? Black Sphere Bomb shows you samples of the newest cartoons, and what YOU like best becomes our new series! Plug in the deep fryer, and enjoy the detonation of an animation explosion.
Adult Swim- All kids out of the pool, it's Adult Swim. Our late-night, adults only block will run Sundays thru Thursdays showing the best in uncensored animation. Put the kids to bed, this block is way too mature for them!Section 4: STUNTS & SPECIALS

Cartoon Network made many specials back in it's heyday. They're ALL coming back, along with new specials for the new generation. If a stunt consists of a 24+ hour marathon, it will be COMMERCIAL FREE. Fancy Anvil, June Bugs, The Big Game, all old specials will be revamped.

Fancy Anvil Awards- Our outlined version of the Emmy Awards. No one will be denied the right to nominate a cartoon WE'VE SHOWN on the network. Yes, the real-life animators of these cartoons have the chance to win a gold-plated anvil for amazing acheivement in animation.
June Bugs- From A to Z, censorship and ordinary commercials are OUT! Every Bugs Bunny cartoon ever created is shown on this epic gigathon of the harebrained superstar. Every hour, advertisements of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection DVD boxsets are shown. Along with the ads, the disclaimer from Volume 4 will warn viewers that these toons are RAW, UNADULTERATED PRINTS.
The Big Game- The wackiest parody of the Super Bowl ever. Two cartoon characters will battle it out in the most sweaty 3 hours and 15 minutes of your life.
Cartoon Network's Cartoon Theater- A feature-length, animated movie is shown on this special.
SUPER CHUNK- 3 hours of a selected cartoon. All you can eat!
JBVO- Older viewers will be more familiar with Johnny Bravo's All-Request cartoon show, the old Master Control. Didn't get your request shown on Master Control? Try again here, you may get your wish!Section 5: IMPARTIAL SCHEDULING

Missed your favorite show by life getting in the way? Feel someone's getting everything but your getting nothing? We don't favor old or new viewers. Every show is played old to new, both mirroring each other. The only exceptions are franchises and specials.

In closing:
I'd let the fans give me advice like programming and bumper design. I'd bring back the old logo, but turn the "C" and "N" 22.5 degrees so both old and new viewers know they're watching Cartoon Network. With me in charge, CN will deserve to be called Cartoon Network again.

If we can't resurrect Cartoon Network, NO ONE can.

Nexonius

09-14-2007, 01:53 PM

Here's my schedule: Weekdays

NO 6 AIRINGS OF LAZLO/ FOSTER'S/ GYM PARTNER / SQUIRREL BOY!

NO LIVE ACTION!

TOONAMI ON WEEKDAY MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS.

BOOMERANG ON CN.

NEW CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING BLOCK.

CARTOON CARTOONS LIVES AGAIN.

6:00AM Transformers (All versions)
6:30AM Dragon Ball (All versions) Edited
7:00AM Teen Titans
7:30AM Megas XLR
8:00AM Zatch Bell!
8:30AM Samurai Jack

Toonami Weekday Mornings

Cartoonito (The network's in the UK, so why not?)

9:00AM Land Before Time (Mondays and Fridays) / Gerald McBoing Boing (Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thurdays, now off Boomerang permantley)

9:30AM Kyrpto The Superdog (Mondays and Fridays) / Baby Looney Tunes (Tue, Wed, Thu)

10:00AM Peppa Pig (Mon, Wed, Fri) / Firehouse Tales (Tue, Thurs)
10:30AM Harry And His Bucket Full Of Dinosaurs (Mon and Fri) / Big Bag (Tue, Wed, Thur)

Boomerang on "Cartoon" Network

11:00AM Looney Tunes (Mon, Wed, Fri) 2 hours / The Flintstones (Tuesdays & Thursdays at 11:00AM)

11:30AM (For Tuesdays and Thursdays only):
The Jetsons

12:00PM (Again, for Tuesdays and Thursdays only)

MGM (Droopy, Barney Bear, Various)

12:30PM (For Tuesdays and Thursdays only)

Yogi Bear/ Huckleberry Hound/ Loopy De Loop (And other HB 7 minute cartoons)

1:00PM Tom and Jerry (1 Hour) (Mon, Wed, Fri)

At 1:00PM on Tuesdays, it's Jabberjaw. Thursdays is Josie And The Pussy Cats.

1:30PM on Tue and Thurs is Scooby Doo (Hanna-Barbera versions, not WB's version)

Cartoon Cartoons (2 Hours of Old Cartoon Cartoons)

2:00PM to 4:00PM

2:00PM The What A Cartoon! Show and other Pilots
2:30PM The What A Cartoon! Show and other Pilots
3:00PM Dexter's Laboratory
3:30PM Dexter's Laboratory

(Mondays)

2:00PM Cow and Chicken
2:30PM Cow and Chicken / I Am Weasel also
3:00PM Johnny Bravo
3:30PM Johnny Bravo

(Tuesdays)

2:00PM The Powerpuff Girls
2:30PM The Powerpuff Girls
3:00PM Time Squad
3:00PM Time Squad

(Wednesdays)

2:00PM Mike Lu and Og
2:30PM Mike Lu and Og
3:00PM Whatever Happened To Robot Jones?
3:30PM Whatever Happened To Robot Jones?

(Thursdays)

2:00PM Grim & Evil (The original episodes only)
2:30PM Grim & Evil
3:00PM Sheep In The Big City
3:30PM Sheep In The Big City

(Fridays)

Toonami Weekdays Afternoons

4:00PM Thundercats
4:30PM Silverhawks
5:00PM The Real Adventures Of Johnny Quest
5:30PM Dragon Ball Z (Edited)
6:00PM Megas XLR
6:30PM Code LYOKO
7:00PM Naruto (ONE AIRING A DAY)
7:30PM Storm Hawks

Primetime CN (Loses an hour)

8:00PM Ed Edd n' Eddy
8:30PM Courage The Cowardly Dog
9:00PM The Grim Adventures Of Billy and Mandy
9:30PM Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends (ONE AIRING)
10:00PM Camp Lazlo (ONE AIRING)
10:30PM My Gym Partner's A Monkey (ONE AIRING)

Adult Swim (INUYASHA loses a half hour)

11:00PM American Dad!
11:30PM Family Guy
12:00AM Sealab 2021
12:15AM Harvey Birdman
12:30AM Robot Chicken
12:45AM Aqua Teen Hunger Force
1:00AM Inuyasha
1:30AM Blood+
2:00AM The Big O
2:30AM American Dad!
3:00AM Family Guy
3:30AM Sealab 2021
3:45AM Harvey Birdman
4:00AM Robot Chicken
4:15AM Aqua teen Hunger Force
4:30AM The Big O
5:00AM Popeye
5:30AM Toon Heads

Friday Nights at 7PM

Fried Dynamite

7:00PM Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends
7:30PM Chowder (NEW)
8:00PM Camp Lazlo
8:30PM My Gym Partner's A Monkey
9:00PM The Grim Adventures Of Billy and Mandy
9:30PM Class Of 3000
10:00PM Squirrel Boy
10:30PM Ed Edd n' Eddy
11:00PM Adult Swim

Saturdays

(Cartoonito Mornings)

6:00AM The Land Before Time
6:30AM Harry And His Bucket Full Of Dinosaurs
7:00AM Peppa Pig
7:30AM Baby Looney Tunes

8:00AM Top 5

Toonami Saturday Mornings

9:00AM Pokemon
9:30AM Pokemon
10:00AM Ben 10
10:30AM Transformers Animated
11:00AM Santo
11:30AM The Secret Saturdays

Fried Dynamite Rerun Slot from:

12:00 Noon 4:00PM

4:00PM Cartoon Theater (Old WB Movies)

Toonami Saturday Nights (A hour up)

6:00PM Megas XLR
6:30PM Teen Titans
7:00PM Dragon Ball Z
7:30PM Transformers: Animated
8:00PM Storm Hawks
8:30PM Gamera
9:00PM Naruto
9:30PM Megaman Star Force
10:00PM MAR
10:30PM One Piece

Adult Swim Saturdays:

More coming soon.

I want the Network to be fresh with different programming everyday, not the same crap.

Beefy

09-14-2007, 08:54 PM

Contents
I - What can air on Cartoon Network
II - Frequency of shows
III - Variety of shows
IV - Programming Blocks
V - New Shows
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I. What can air on Cartoon Network
First order of business: lose the live-action.
It's called Cartoon Network for a reason. I'll allow Space Jam, Arthur and the Invisibles, and Roger Rabbit. Other movies with little or no animation, forget it. Especially Re-Animated/Out of Jimmy's Head: gone.

II. Frequency of shows
Second order of business: lose the constant marathons of the same five shows.
Squirrel Boy, Gym Partner, Billy and Mandy, Camp Lazlo, Foster's.
I know they're CN's newest shows and you want to give them lots of attention, but over running them just makes them get old faster.
I decree no show can air more than two episodes per day.
Except for special occasions, like marathons. But marathons are subject to approval. No four hours of Foster's every single week.
Adult Swim is exempt from the more than two episodes of the same show per day rule because they haven't abused it.

III. Variety of shows
Third order of business: get some variety.
Bring back the Looney Tunes. You call yourself a Time Warner network and you don't have the Looney Tunes? Those cartoons are timeless. No kid should have to grow up without seeing Bugs Bunny and Co.
Tom and Jerry and Scooby-Doo are also good to have around. If each show gets half an hour of airtime a day, that would be fine.
Where's all the other WB stuff? Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, etc.
Bring back the older Cartoon Network originals. Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab, HiHi Puffy AmiYumi, Samurai Jack, etc.

IV. Programming Blocks
Most of the time, shows should stay exclusive to a block and not get swapped between blocks or aired on plain CN space, with the exception of CN originals.

IVa.
Miguzi - Ages 6-11 - Weekdays 5p-7p or 4p-6p, whatever
Shows can be rated TV-Y7 FV or TV-PG
Code Lyoko, Ben 10, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh/GX, TMNT 2003, Totally Spies, Storm Hawks, Xaolin Showdown, etc.

IVb.
Toonami - Ages 9-14 and/or 12-17 - Saturdays 7p-11p
Shows can be rated TV-PG or TV-14
No more penny pinching. If you're going to change the look, be prepared to have a TIE or at least an animated sequence/story of why the look is getting changed.
A yearly animated feature/story/adventure with the Toonami hosts/characters is also a must.
As much as I like anime, there needs to be some non-anime action cartoons on the block. See section V.

IVc.
Adult Swim - Ages 18+ - Daily from 11p-6a
Shows can be rated TV-14 or TV-MA
S&P restrictions will be eased up on Adult Swim.
If Adult Swim wants religion bashing, swearing, violence, nudity; go for it.
As long as they air the proper disclaimers before the show starts.
Make some mature action shows instead of relying on anime.
Korgoth: Greenlit
Shonen Jump series will not be on Adult Swim. They can air on Toonami with a TV-14 or TV-PG rating.

IVd.
Sunday Pants - Sundays half an hour before Adult Swim - Max rating TV-PG or TV-14 with disclaimer
Sunday Pants will air on Sundays for about 4-6 weeks per year.
It will be a showcase of foreign, amateur, and independent animated works.
Depending on the amount of material available, the show could expand past six weeks if needed.

IVe.
Weeknight Action block - Mon-Thurs 10p-11p - TV-Y7 FV, TV-PG, or TV-14
Essentially a weeknight strip of action shows, it does not need the Toonami packaging, but could if it becomes popular enough.
Rotating action series can include: any Toonami series, Justice League, The Batman, Megas XLR, etc.

IVf.
Boomerang Swings Back
A block that will air one hour on weekdays and maybe two hours on weekends.
It will rotate shows from Boomerang. Duck Dogers, Johnny Quest, Flintstones, Jetsons, He-Man etc.

IVg.
Friday prime time block - Fridays from 6 or 7pm until [as] starts
This will be where new episodes of Cartoon Network original comedy cartoons premiere. Animated hosts would be nice, but whatever. Kids hosting or in the audience can work. As long as the shows are animated.

IVh.
General CN - TV-Y, TV-Y7, TV-G, TV-PG
This is where reruns of Cartoon Cartoons and shows that wouldn't fit in one of the blocks would go. Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby-Doo, Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, etc.

V. New Shows
There will be at least one new Cartoon Network original series each year that will premiere on Fridays. Additionaly, a special event where series' pilots air, and the viewers pick which series to be greenlit would be nice.

With all the comic book series in the libraries of DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, etc. there is plenty of content to make an animated series with. To that end, there will be at least one new animated series based on a comic book introduced each year. First on the list: Hellboy TV series.

Shows off the top of my head, and where they would go.
Kaleido Star - Miguzi or general CN
Hellboy (TV) - Toonami
Korgoth - Adult Swim
Samurai 7 - Adult Swim
Black Lagoon - Adult Swim
Tsubasa - Miguzi or general CN
Angelic Layer - Miguzi or general CN
Tokyo Mew Mew - Miguzi or general CN
Cardcaptor Sakura - Miguzi or general CN
Shaman King - Miguzi or general CN
TMNT 2003 - Miguzi or general CN
Gundam Seed Destiny - Toonami
Case Closed - general CN
Last Exile - Toonami
Infinite Ryvius - Toonami or general CN
Geneshaft - Toonami
Prince of Tennis - Toonami or general CN
Arthur and the Invisibles (movie) - Friday prime time or weeknight prime time
Titan A.E. (movie) - Toonami or weeknight prime time

kempobot

09-16-2007, 01:43 AM

i'd take it back to 2002... but seriously, folks if you elect me for president of cartoon network:

i would revamp the network and try to make it a full fledge general audience network (see: abc family), where it wouldn't be bizarre to put a TV-14 show or movie on during the middle of the day. obviously, cartoon network for the most part is getting their butts kicked by disney and nickelodeon in terms of who's the top kiddie/girl network. perhaps it's now time for cartoon network to focus on a slightly older demographic.

REDUCE THE SIZE OF ADULT SWIM AND INTEGRATE SOME OF THE BLOCK WITH THE REST OF THE NETWORK

-adult swim will be revamped and much lighter, no questions asked. it will now gradually blend in with whatever's airing during primetime. only the really mature shows'll be reserved for the latenight timeslot.

DEVOTE MORE TIME FOR CLASSIC CARTOONS

- adult swim is taking up a lot of empty space with its same-day repeats, which is a golden spot for dumping classic cartoons (save tom & jerry and scooby-doo seeing how they're still living) graveyard. the revamped network will make it a necessity to devote 7 hours a week for classic cartoons (that's only two half-hour slots a day, people).

-i'm not talking about some forgettable run-of-the-mill 70's hanna barbera cartoon that could easily be dumped into boomerang. i'm talking about the ones that the general consensus would agree that were the most ground breaking, inspirational cartoons for their time. the library would include: looney tunes & other wb shorts, mgm shorts, popeye & whatever fleischer cartoon they feel is right, pink panther, the flintstones & possibly the jetsons (that's it in terms of hanna-barbera cartoons), and possibly a few more. i'm not sure whether this should be formatted like the acme hour or their own half-hour segments.

A REAL EFFORT TO ATTRACT THE PRESCHOOL CROWD

- i'd devote a couple of hours in the middle of the day to , but this time i'd do it in a full-hearted manner. i don't want this baby looney tunes crap. i'm going after dora and diego's blood. i want clever and unique shows that preschooolers and parents will keep coming back for more. you can do it, cartoon network. i believe in you.

WEEKDAY TOONAMI RETURNS
- weekday toonami's back, but it's not after school anymore. also, a lot of the light TV-14 adult swim action shows will find their new home here as well (such as bleach, inu yasha, eureka 7, and whatever else). the more mature, absolute TV-MA animes like gits: stand alone complex and trinity blood will still accompany the new adult swim-like time slot.

- i'd dedicate the first half for shonen-y anime (TV-PG Naruto and One Piece in all their glory), as well as the few american action cartoons like the justice league that they air. the second half will consist some of the inu yasha-level animes.

REVAMP PRIMETIME

- primetime will actually be like primetime. this is where some of the lighter TV-PG/14 adult swim shows (like futurama, home movies, harvey birdman, and the simpsons... yeah, i got them, too.) will air.

- Cartoon Cartoon Fridays will make a return, but only for two hours.

ADD SOME LIVE ACTION - gasp! :ack: unlike other people, i'm fine with live action stuff, so long as they're are strictly (and not loosely, i'm not trying to make another MTV here) based on the animation. cartoon network can only be "cartoons only" channel for so long before the network becomes "stale", or at least become very niche. i understand this. also keep in mind that these shows will most likely float around the TV-G/PG/14 level depending on the content the show is covering.

- live action movies are understandable for ratings, but they must be based off of a cartoon, comic, videogame or toy line (i know i'm being liberal here). so, for example, spider-man, batman begins, the live action flintstones movie, and a few others would be acceptable.

- for variety's sake, i'd throw in a reality show (i know, i hate them too, but these things sell nowadays) entitled 'america's next animator'. this will put contestants to the test of whether they're worthy or not to make it with a mainstream cartoon in the industry. the winner obviously will get they're own cartoon series on cartoon network

- i'd also make a mature (ex: something along the lines of 20/20, not 'HAY, GUYZ! OMG! these guys make the cartoons you like watch! LOLz [/kids choice awards]') entertainment magaziney-type show called 'behind the pencil', where a host would fly out and interview cartoonists who play a big part in the animation industry. these interviews would include unique and well known cartoonists and animators like matt groening, gendy tartovsky (i know i butchered that one badly), craig mccraken, butch harman, steve hildenburg, aaron mcgruder, peter laird, doug tennapple, mike judge, john lasseter, etc. the interviews would also include whatever international and web based animators/cartoonists like eiichiro oda, hayao miyazaki, peter lord, akira toriyama, the creator of penny arcade, the creator of homestar runner, etc. this show would also have input from the viewers like polls on 'what's the best western cartoon ever?' or 'what's your favorite videogame related cartoon?'.

- another show would be an hour long biography show, which'll reflect on the lives of legendary (dead or not) animators. the show would go over how a well known influential animators like chuck jones or tex avery lives were growing up, where/when did he/she got their big break, and how their work was influential towards the animation industry today. and this wouldn't be limited to just a specific person, it could also cover the phenomena of animation during a specific time period, or region (like what's so big about the japanese animation/manga industry), or whatever. so long as it's in that biography like manner... basically like something you'd watch on the history channel, the national geographic channel or vh1.

Here's a breakdown of how the new weekday schedule would look like:

DAYTIME

6AM - 9AM - MORNING CLUTTER - i'll let Sketch come up with something good. Anything can go here, except for obviously the adult shows.

9-11 AM - BRAND NEW PRESCHOOL SECTION - a new, revamped section made especially for the preschool audience... with good shows.

11:00AM - Xiaolin Showdown or whatever Kids WB hand-me-down they can get their hands on.

11:30AM - Another slot for a Kids WB hand-me-down.

12-1PM - Tom & Jerry and Scooby-Doo. These shows are the staples of the network, it wouldn't be cartoon network if i relpla

AFTERSCHOOL

1PM-5PM - CARTOON CARTOON AFTERSCHOOL DUMPING GROUND. 4 solid hours dedicated to cartoon network's newer cartoons like billy & mandy, camp lazlo, squirrel boy, my gym parner's a monkey, ed edd & eddy, and whatever

5-8PM - THE ALL-NEW TOONAMI. toonami is back, and better than ever. better slot, better shows, better attitude. Toonami premieres can still be found on Saturdays.

5:00PM - Pokemon

5:30PM - Toonami Premiere

6:00PM - Naruto

6:30PM - One Piece

7PM-8PM - Whatever light Adult Swim Action Show (Bleach, Inu Yasha, Eureka 7, Samurai Champloo, etc.)

PRIMETIME

8PM-9PM (Mon-Thurs)- The Simpsons. you know you want it.

8-10PM (Fri) - Cartoon Cartoon premiers

9:00PM (Mon-Wed) - America's Next Animator. that reality show i was describing (again, i hate them too, but they get much needed ratings)

9:30PM (Mon-Wed) - Behind The Pencil. that interview/news magazine show i was talking about.

9:00PM (Thurs)- Biography: (Insert Animation Related Subject Here)

10:00PM - Futurama (at least before it leaves the network)

10:30PM - Home Movies, American Dad, Harvey Birdman, or whatever light Adult Swim show would be.

11:00PM - Family Guy

11:30PM - ATHF

11:45PM - Robot Chicken

12-1 AM - Other Adult Swim (Korgoth, Venture Bros., Lucy, Metal, Tim & Eric, Morel Orel)

1AM-2AM - Adult Swim Action Shows that can't air on Toonami (Trinity Blood, GITS, etc.)

LATENIGHT

2-5AM - DUMPING GROUND. this will be home to all of cartoon network's back catalog misfits:

2-3AM - Classic Japanese Animation. older animes like astro boy, gigantor, speed racer, voltron, lupin iii, robotech, dragonball z, sailor moon (yes, i'm including 90's animes as well), etc. can all be found here.

3-4AM - Classic Cartoon Cartoons. this is where shows like dexter's laboratory, power puff girls, johnny bravo and whatever older cartoon cartoon will be found.

4-5AM - Classic Cartoons. this will be your only chance to catch bugs bunny, the flintstones, popeye and whoever else that is 'classic', folks.

WEEKENDS

the weekends would be designated for whatever featured shows, or movies, or marathons the network decides to play.

vote for me! :D that and i have no life. :sad:

mob don chris

09-16-2007, 03:38 PM

1. yeah, cartoon-cartoon originals should be on it's own channel not the Boom and cartoon-cartoons get brand-spankin' new seasons & episodes.
2. NO more foster's, camp lazlo or,gym partner is a monkey plus squirrel-boy!!
3. chowder and other new shows stays on for 1 month if we and the kids don't like it, take it off.
4. only one saturday a month can a cartoon-cartoon like Time Squad get a 24 hour marathon on it's channel.
5. Toonami and Adult-swim get their own 24/7 channels just like the Boom.
6. bring cartoonito to the US as a channel .

Darklordavaitor

09-16-2007, 03:39 PM

1. yeah, cartoon-cartoon originals should be on master control not the Boom.
2. NO more foster's, camp lazlo or,gym partner is a monkey plus squirrel-boy!!
3. chowder and other new shows stays on for 1 month if kids don't like it, take it off.
4. only one saturday a month can a cartoon-cartoon like Time Squad get a 24 hour marathon.
5. Toonami and Adult-swim get their own 24/7 channels just like the Boom.
6. bring cartoonito to the us as a channel .
7. cartoon-cartoons get brand-spankin' new seasons & episodes.

Wow, that is horribly biased.

Blackstar

09-16-2007, 03:45 PM

Also, you already said all that (verbatim) in the Master Control Speculations thread. No need to be redundant.

mob don chris

09-16-2007, 04:33 PM

thank you blackstar.
but I should've posted it here.
sorry about that.

Antiyonder

09-16-2007, 05:16 PM

ADD SOME LIVE ACTION - gasp! :ack: unlike other people, i'm fine with live action stuff, so long as they're are strictly (and not loosely, i'm not trying to make another MTV here) based on the animation. cartoon network can only be "cartoons only" channel for so long before the network becomes "stale", or at least become very niche. i understand this. also keep in mind that these shows will most likely float around the TV-G/PG/14 level depending on the content the show is covering.

I do agree that you don't want the network to be stale, but putting live action on the network isn't the way to do so.

As long as the programs differ in setting, tone and storytelling then stagnation is a non issue. The reason the network is stale at the moment is because nearly all shows outside Toonami are kid centric/school based shows.

The early Toonami for instance despite being only for action based shows were certainly not stale as you had: Anime, Original Action Cartoons and a few Classics thrown in for good measure.

The reality show idea would however work, imo.

macattack

09-16-2007, 07:43 PM

Cartoon Network Proposal

I. Policy And Synopsis

Cartoon Network, back in the year 2000, regularly beat its rivals Nickalodeon and Disney Channel in the ratings. Now, unfortunately, the network regularly places a distant third, with the fourth party, Toon Disney, slowly but creepily sneaking up behind it in the ratings. Cartoon Network has responded to this by emulating its rivals in content and running similarly themed programs (and often hiring Nick and Disney VAs in the process). The response to this has been little but stagnation in the ratings, with an entire age group ignored, the 12-17 group, in the attempt to snag the 6-11 and 9-14 demos whose loyalties are mostly commanded by Nick and Disney. Cartoon Network's subsidary that shares channel space, Adult Swim, however, has proven to be extraordinarily successful in its timeslot. However, its chief audience is the often-fickle 18-25 demographic, even though the reported demo is 18-34. There is a possibility that Adult Swim may lose its appeal to this demographic, and then it could begin stagnating as well, behind Nick At Nite and MTV and other networks competing against Adult Swim.

As a result, it is time for a change in policy and content, to make Cartoon Network a wholly different alternative to the material run by the other networks, instead of a slightly edgier clone. This will help the ratings in all demographics, for if Cartoon Network represents a different kind of youth animation, it could regain the strength that made it a ratings darling back at the turn of the millennium.

As a result, some policy decrees, that go in effect immediately:

1. Animation first!

It's Cartoon Network. Cartoons running all the time makes it unique among every other network in the nation. Airing live-action runs the risk of making Cartoon Network a generic copy of Nick and Disney. Hybrids of live-action and animation are acceptable, such as Osmosis Jones, James And The Giant Peach and Out Of Jimmy's Head. There is also nothing inherently long about live-action hosts on the network, as long as the content they present are animated or hybrid.

Note: As Kamen Rider has already been developed (with Cartoon Network as a co-producer) at this writing, it would be short-sighted to discard it, as well as a colossal waste of funds that have already been devoted to this series. As a result, it will be promoted, funded, and aired with full support by the network. However, Kamen Rider will be the first and last regular live-action program aired by Cartoon Network. When Kamen Rider ends, whether through a series conclusion or a cancellation, it will mark the end of a regular live-action presence on the network.

Second Note: Memos will be sent to the Out Of Jimmy's Head group to, among other things, hire better hairdressers, writers, directors, costumers, craft better, more unique plots, increase the profile of the animated characters and the characters that work the best, such as the alien sister, and making the lesser characters, such as the father and the villain, more appealing and more fun to watch. Also, Out Of Jimmy's Head will be promoted as Cartoon Network's first "Hybrid" series, rather than "live-action", which is more truthful. Out Of Jimmy's Head has as much potential as any show that has aired on Cartoon Network and quality control is a must for a risky endeavor such as this.

2. "Youth", not "children"!

One of Cartoon Network's more short-sighted decisions is to completely disregard the 12-17 demographic, letting that demo head to TEENNick, a rival block, to Toonami, whose currently designated appeal is to he 9-14 demographic, or to Adult Swim, ostensibly supposed to be out of the 12-17 set's appeal due to "mature content". This is an error that must be rectified quickly. At the same time, Cartoon Network will continue to appeal to the 6-11 and 9-14 demographics. Also, the 12-17 has a tendency to be turned off at being called "children", due to the condescending tone the word has for this particular set.

As a result, Cartoon Network will be rebranded in name as a "youth" network, which does not carry the condescendesce stigma that the word "children" has. Also, the Toonami block will be upgraded to the 12-17 demographic in an attempt to appeal to that demographic. At the same time, the bulk of airtime will remained devoted to the 6-11 and 9-14 demographics that tend to be friendlier to animation at this time.

3. The World's Best Animation.

Nick and Disney have a tendency to be neglectful to third-party and international programming. This represents an opportunity to Cartoon Network as a whole. While original programming will remain the primary focus of the network, quality animation from Japan, France, Canada, and other nations should also be represented on the Cartoon Network. This does not mean that it dominates the network, but quality and appealing international programming should receive decent, watchable slots on the network and appeal to all of the demographics. This does not mean that Japanese anime` will be dominant anywhere on the network. Even with Toonami, where the anime` content will be heaviest, there will be original and European content infused into the block.

4. The Feminine Equation

Nick and Disney continue to dominate with girls 6-11, 9-14, and 12-17. This is part of the reason for Cartoon Network's ratings stagnation. It is another flaw of the current setup of the network that must be corrected. Success of animated programming aimed towards girls internationally is telling. American girls can be receptive towards animated programming as well, but so far animated programming in America had generally been lacking in feminine appeal. As a result, there will be a designated block of programming for girls 6-11 and 9-14 running weekdays at 4-7. Miguzi, due to its original intention as a block for girls, will be the title of the block. Original and Canadian programming will run along international English-dubbed programming such as Winx Club and Kaliedo Star. There will also be a interlude on the Saturday Toonami Block for the 12-17 girls, hosted by SARA and dubbed "Toonami Sakura". This results in the expansion for the Toonami block by one hour. There will also be a more concentrated effort by the network to host more gender-neutral programming that can appeal to both genders. There is no reason for letting an entire half of the nation to slip away.

5. The end of the 78-episode barrier.

This is unnecessary. As long a show continues to pull in ratings it should continue to be supported and renewed. This is one area where Cartoon Network should emulate its rivals. If the ratings decline too much, Cartoon Network will inform the shows' creators of this so they can write up a decent conclusion to the show.

II. Programming

Here is the general setup of the network for weekdays, Friday Saturday, and Sunday, respectfully.

Monday-Thursday

5-9 a.m. Morning programming, concentrating on reruns of Cartoon Network originals, for the children before they leave for schoo. This is unblocked.

9-2 p.m. Boomerang. Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, and Scooby-Doo will always have appeal for kids as well as adults. No reason to neglect Cartoon Network's excellent back catalog of animation. Occasionally, classic cancelled original programming will run here as well. This block will also serve as an advertisement for the Boomerang network.

2-4 p.m. More rerunning original programming for those coming home from school. The demo is 6-11 and is unblocked.

4-7 p.m. Miguzi. Its appeal will be for the 6-11 initially, with the latter half of the block constructed for the 9-14 demo, with a careful progression in programming maturity throughout the block's run. It will carry girl-aimed and gender-neutral programming. While Cartoon Network begins development of original girl-intended programming, Miguzi will temporarily be dominated by third-party programming. Programming on Miguzi will include reruns as well as new episodes. This includes Code Lyoko, Pretty Cure, Teen Titans, Winx Club, Totally Spies, and Kaliedo Star.

7-8 p.m. Master Control. Kids love being in control. The teams will be divided as they are in the current Master Control setup, and they will be allowed to select anything meant for the 6-14 programming slate for airing. Anything from Looney Tunes to Foster's to Powerpuff Girls Prince Of Tennis could conceivably run randomly.

8-11 p.m. Toonami. Weekday version of this block will run reruns of classic, completed Toonami programming as well as stripped new batches of lengthier shows such as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, MAR and Bleach. As Toonami has been resdesignated shows will be cut to TV-PG and TV-14, although classic shows cut to TV-Y7FV will not be re-edited. Some shows from Adult swim will be moved to Toonami, such as Inuyasha and Eureka Seven. On Thursdays Toonami will occasionally air a movie, examples include Vision Of Escaflowne and Superman: Doomsday.

11-5 a.m. Adult Swim. The original three-and-a-half hour block will run twice every night with an hour of filler programming. Will occasionally have premieres, and a combination of comedic and action programming will run on these nights. Futurama (until it expires, when AS will replace it with the Simpsons), Family Guy, original AS programming, Blood+, Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion are among examples of stripped programming.

Fridays

Everything up to 7 p.m. will run as normal.

7-11 p.m. Fridays. Grand spectacle. Guests. Events. Announcements pertaining to the network. Original cartoons. Premieres of said cartoons. Fun. It will also air Kamen Rider. When original content is slim premieres of movies will happen here. The Shrek movies, Wallace & Gromit, new Pokemon movies are among the examples.

11-5. Adult swim runs normally, although Friday night will be the designated "announcement night", so many of the cards will reference changes to Adult Swim's current content.

Saturdays

5-7 a.m. will run as an abbreviated version of the weekday schedule.

7-12 a.m. Rising Sun (Will not contain a Toonami designator). Action programming edited to the 6-11 set. Includes original programming such as Ben 10 and Fantastic Four, and edited anime such as Pokemon and Zatch Bell!.

12-6 p.m. The needed reruns of animated movies.

6-11 p.m. Toonami Premiere Saturday. A slow progression from TV-PG to TV-14 programming as Toonami extends into the watershed hours. Examples of programming include Naruto, (don't mess with success, I say), Funimation's One Piece, Black Cat, Last Exile, girls' programming too intense or mature for Miguzi such as Nanoha and Tsubasa, as well as original programming such as a Hellboy animated series as well as the Star Wars CG cartoon and new-to-CN TMNT episodes. Towards the end of the block more intense science-fiction and fantasy series such as Infinite Ryvius and Geneshaft will lead-in to Adult Swim.

11-5 p.m. Adult Swim Action. Programming too intense for Toonami heads here. Shows that can have both TV-14 and TV-MA episodes air here. It's all premieres, too. Death Note, Blood+, Black Lagoon, and Innocent Venus are among the examples of this programming.

Sundays

5-12 p.m. Movie Morning.

12 p.m-11 p.m. This is where the reurns of original content gets their necessary airtime. Marathons are frequent here, but they will last no longer than three hours for each show. If you want to watch these episodes again, here's your chance. Every current Cartoon Network show will run during this timeframe, although occasionally older series such as Courage and Johnny Bravo will receive airtime (also marking opportunities to push Boomerang in the process).

11 p.m-5 p.m. You know what this is. Adult Swim comedy. Premieres. New-to-AS Family Guy and American Dad will air here. When The Simpsons is inevitably acquired it will kick off this night with new-to-AS episodes, often encores of the episode that aired on Fox the previous week. Original AS programming will air here as well. Robot Chicken. Lucy. Metalocalypse. Frisky Dingo. Aqua Teen. Boondocks. Everything else developed by AS. There is no need to mess with success for this part of the Adult Swim block and it will continue to be the standard-barrier of Adult Swim.

Lighthammer

09-16-2007, 11:24 PM

Please be advised, I'm planning on starting the voting thread Monday/Tuesday sometime after 11:59P on Monday.

Please finalize what your proposals before then.

Just as a reminder, the basic layout for the next thread will be an elimination run. The nomination round will run 1 week. During this period, each proposal will require 3 nomination for it to move onto the voting poll round.

Remember, any proposals changed for any reason after the new thread is posted will be invalid for nominations or votes.

During the nomination run, if anyone wants to add a VERY SHORT caption to their proposal, they can simply PM it to me.

Don't worry, these rules will be revisited in the actual thread, this is just everyone's preliminary warning =).

Nexonius

09-25-2007, 02:59 PM

I hope I'm not too late!

Adult Swim Saturdays

11:00PM Crayon Shin-chan
11:30PM Astro Boy
12:00AM Eureka Seven
12:30AM Bleach
1:00AM Death Note
1:30AM FLCL
2:00AM Crayon Shin-chan
2:30AM Astro Boy
3:00AM Eureka Seven
3:30AM Bleach
4:00AM Death Note
4:30AM FLCL
5:00AM Gigantor
5:30AM Voltron

Early Cartoon Network Sundays

6:00AM Looney Tunes

7:00AM What A Cartoon!
7:30AM Dexter's Laboratory
8:00AM Cow & Chicken
8:30AM Johnny Bravo
9:00AM The Powerpuff Girls
9:30AM Ed Edd n' Eddy
10:00AM Mike Lu & Og
10:30AM Grim & Evil
11:00AM Sheep In The Big City
11:30PM Time Squad
12:00PM Whatever Happened To Robot Jones?
12:30PM Codename: Kids Next Door

WB programs on CN 1PM to 6PM.

1:00PM Beetlejuice
1:30PM Tiny Toon Adventures
2:00PM Taz Mania
2:30PM Animaniacs
3:00PM Pinky & The Brain
3:30PM Freakazoid!
4:00PM The Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries
4:30PM Histeria! or Detention!
5:00PM Batman Beyond or Justice League
5:30PM Static Shock or The Zeta Project

CN Sundays: In Primetime.

6:00PM Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi
6:30PM The Life & Times Of Juniper Lee
7:00PM The Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy
7:30PM Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends
8:00PM Camp Lazlo
8:30PM My Gym Partner's A Monkey
9:00PM Squirrel Boy
9:30PM Class Of 3000

Adult Swim Sundays

10:00PM The Venture Brothers / American Dad!
10:30PM Family Guy
11:00PM The Boondocks / Aqua Teen Hunger Force (NEW)
11:30PM Robot Chicken
11:45PM Metalocalypse
12:00AM Lucy, Daughter Of The Devil
12:15AM Frisky Dingo
12:30AM Assy McGee
12:45AM Moral Orel
1:00AM The Oblongs
1:30AM Mission Hill
2:00AM The Venture Brothers / American Dad!
2:30AM Family Guy
3:00AM The Boondocks / Aqua Teen Hunger Force
3:30AM Robot Chicken
3:45AM Metalocalypse
4:00AM Lucy, Daughter Of The Devil
4:15AM Frisky Dingo
4:30AM Assy McGee
4:45AM Moral Orel
5:00AM The Oblongs
5:30AM Mission Hill

There you go!

DarthGonzo

09-26-2007, 07:54 AM

2. NO more foster's,

What the heck is wrong with Fosters?

Antiyonder

10-01-2007, 06:47 PM

I'm mostly trying this for fun. Basically my schedule would have something for everyone or at least try to. Many hourslots will be dedicated to airing a classic version, then modern version of said show. I'm leaving some off the schedule since they are one Toon Disney.

6:00AM Looney Tunes
6:30AM Tom & Jerry
7:00AM Xiaolin Showdown
7:30AM Camp Lazlo
8:00AM My Gym Partner's A Monkey
8:30AM The Grim Adventures Of Billy & Mandy
9:00AM Courage The Cowardly Dog
9:30AM Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends
10:00AM Hamtaro (In mind opinion, one of the better preschool shows)
10:30AM Krypto The Superdog/Baby Looney Tunes
11:00AM Flintstone Kids/A Pup Named Scooby Doo
11:30AM Tom & Jerry Kids
12:00PM Scooby Doo (Everything from Scooby Do Where Are You to What's New Scooby Doo)
1:00PM Sylvester & Tweety's Mysteries
1:30PM Taz Mania
2:00PM Tiny Toon Adventures
2:30PM Animaniacs
3:00PM Ed Edd and Eddy
3:30PM Ben 10 (Would also include Generations Hero)
4:00PM Static Shock/Teen Titans
4:30PM Justice League/Justice League Unlimited
5:00PM Pokemon
5:30PM Pokemon Diamond And Pearl
6:00PM Yu-Gi-Oh
6:30PM Yu-Gi-Oh GX
7:00PM Transformers Armada
7:30PM Transformers Cybertron
8:00PM Dragon Ball/Dragonball Z/GT (Basically they would air as one series rather than each getting a separate slot)
9:00PM Naruto
10:00PM Flintstones
10:30PM Speed Racer

This is my first try at a CN schedule anyway.