Digimon Data Squad: Latest news and pre-talkback

[PC!]

This topic contains the latest information on the dub of Digimon Savers, known in America as Digimon Data Squad. Most of this information comes from Jeff Nimoy and is posted on With the Will.

Channel: Toon Disney

Air date: New episodes Mondays at 8.30PM EST with reruns at 1AM EST.

Schedule
4) The New Team of Marcus and Thomas! (10/15)
5) Digital World, Here We Come! (10/22)
6) The Ultimate Team No More? (10/29)
7) A Birthday Kristy Will Never Forget (11/5) NEW!
8) The Singer's Secret (11/12) NEW!
9) Never Meet Your Heroes (11/19) NEW!
10) Curse This Curse: Marcus's Bad Day (11/25) NEW!

PROMOS
Original (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IjFBx53tM68)
Condensed (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fRWAEXNzlyw)
Marcus (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrBbMPtQlYE)
Thomas (http://youtube.com/watch?v=uBavl-lrpRU)


Director: Jeff Nimoy

Cast - Original Names in ( )
-Marcus Damon (Masaru Daimon) - Quinton Flynn
-Agumon- Brian Beacock
-Yoshi(no) - Colleen O'Shaughnessy
-Lalamon (Raramon) - Dorothy Fahn
-Thomas (Touma) - Crispin Freeman
-Gaomon- Skip Stellrecht
-Commander Sampson- Jamieson Price
-Kudamon- Sam Riegel
-Megumi- Stephanie Sheh
-Miki- Kate Higgins
-Homer Yushima - Kirk Thornton
-Keenan Crier (Ikuto Noguchi) - Brianne Sidall
-Falcomon - Steve Blum
-Sara (Sayuri)- Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn
-Kristy Damon (Chika Daimon) - Melissa Fahn
-Dr. Spencer Damon (Dr Suguru Daimon) - Jeff Nimoy
-Frigimon- Mona Marshall
-Young Thomas- Mona Marshall NEW!
-Kevin Crier (Kenji Noguchi) - n/a
-Michelle Crier (Misuzu Noguchi) - n/a
-Gotsumon- Michael Lindsay
-Merukimon (Mercurimon) -Richard Epcar
-SaberLeomon- Paul St. Peter
Biyomon- Terrence Stone

Other voices:
Robert Martin Klien- Gomamon
Dave Mallow- Elecmon
Kirk Thornton- Virus Garurumon

Other VAs we'll be hearing from:
Michelle Ruff, Philece Semplar

Other tidbits:
-Seven Demon Lords - Seven Demon Kings
-Nimoy is choosing episode titles, if someone on the production team comes up with a better one, they use that.
-It'll be Rize for RizeGreymon, not Rise.
-A name in the game doesn't mean it'll be a name in the show.
-When a level is skipped it'll be 'Warp Digivolve' once again.
-More then likely someone is working on aquiring Data Squad for the UK.
-Biyomon will be male.
-For the Digimon analyzer screens, Japanese text will be overlayed with English text, as usual.
-No narrator or announcer for the analyzer, as was common in Frontier. Depending on the scene, one of the characters will read the stats.
-Kurata's dub name remains unchanged. NEW!
-The Bio-hybrids names remain unchanged. NEW!
-DNA, which is replacing the term digi-soul, stands for Digimon Natural Ability, and will be explained in episode 12. NEW!

DIGIMON WORLD DATA SQUAD INFO

Voices
Biyomon- Melodee Spevack
Renamon- Mari Devon
Gaomon- Dan Lorge
Belphemon- Kyle Hebert
Beelzemon- Kyle Hebert
Masaki Nitta- Kyle Herbert (the guy who's daughter is missing)

Japanese music.
English only, no Japanese language track.
Only characters who spoke in the Japanese version will speak in the english dub.
There will be NO story edits like have been done to Naruto games to not 'jump ahead' of the show.
Dawn/Dusk- Data Squad characters will stay in as they did in the Japanese version, no idea about the Next Characters.
Both Renamon and Biyomon will be female.

Please please please please PLEASE, people, if you're going to bash the dub, do it in a civil manner. Dub lovers, don't get heated up over the haters. This topic is to discuss the series without it turning into the usual dub/original war. Post intelligently and maturely. To put it simply, BE CIVIL. We don't need to have another Digimon thread closed because we can't control ourselves. Remember that if this thread gets closed, we're one step closer to having Digimon talk banned from the forum. If you think it won't, may I direct your attention to this post:


I think I'll take it up with the other mods whether the topic becomes of Digimon becomes banned because apparently it's more trouble than reasonable debate.

With that said, post away! If you have any new info, post in the thread and it'll be added.

[Rolling Cloud]

Nice idea, I don't mind the arguing but having this thread here is a big relief.

And, all this is confirmed? Sweet.

[BCVM22]

I don't receive TD,so I guess it's Youtubin' for me.:sad:

That's the sort of thing best kept to yourself here.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

-Megumi- Stephanie Sheh
-Miki- Kate Higgins
-Yushima - Kirk Thornton
-Sayuri- Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn
I must be missing what makes names like these okay, but Masaru, Ikuto, Satsuma and Suguru are way too out there...


-Merukimon (Mercurimon)

What the hell? Changing Mercurimon's name completely destroys the reference of the Oylmpians. The names are supposed to come from the Greek/Roman gods.

Way to go, Nimoy.


OTHER TIDBITS:

-Seven Demon Lords - Seven Demon Kings

So, King is somehow more acceptable than Lord? This also doesn't make any sense, because Lilithmon clearly is female, and thus, not a King.


-No forced in jokes (let's not even start debating this, okay, guys?)

Uh huuh


-It'll be Rize for RizeGreymon, not Rise.

Yes, this makes perfect sense, of course...

Rise is a real word, Rize is gibberish nonsense. GREAT CHANGE!




Yet more gibberish nonsense.

[quote]-When a level is skipped it'll be 'Warp Digivolve' once again.

Yet another pointless change.

My anticipation was down for this dub already, and each new tidbit only makes it sound like more and more of a trainwreck.

[BCVM22]

And heeeeere we go.

[Rolling Cloud]

And heeeeere we go.

Nope, this time. KtM wasn't bashing..


KuwabaraTheMan (6:10:50 PM): I criticized in a respectful manner

anyways, back on topic! ^_^

[Tay the Cat]

BTW, mentioning YouTube isn't allowed here.
Oh, but it is allowed...

just as long as you don't mention any illegal activities.


Nope, this time. KtM wasn't bashing..

It will more than likely derail the thread, which we didn't want to happen.

[J'onn J'onzz]

I really don't get "Merukimon". Why did they change an English word (Mercury) to some random jibberish (Meruki)?

[Antiyonder]

Personally, I wonder why they used Evolution for Frontier. Not that the term Digivolve is important, but for consistancy sake should have been kept. Oh well.

[PC!]

I really don't get "Merukimon". Why did they change an English word (Mercury) to some random jibberish (Meruki)?

I'd imagine to differentiate him from Mercurymon from Frontier.


Personally, I wonder why they used Evolution for Frontier. Not that the term Digivolve is important, but for consistancy sake should have been kept. Oh well.

The dub of Frontier never was very consistent with the term. They generally referred to a Digimon evolving as digivolving and spirit evolving as...well, spirit evolving.

[bigddan11]

I really don't get "Merukimon". Why did they change an English word (Mercury) to some random jibberish (Meruki)?

I don't get it either, but maybe they didn't want to confuse people since Mercurymon was used in Digimon Frontier.


-SaberLeomon- Paul St. Peter NEW!

Other voices:
Robert Martin Klien - Gomamon NEW!
Dave Mallow- Elecmon NEW!

I'm glad to see they've decided to have some VA's back in the series, but I hate how they are changing some of their parts, such as Mallow doing Elecmon instead of Sorich. I still say it's a shame they got a new Agumon. At least Paul St. Peter is doing a Leomon part again, even if it is SaberLeoMon, and Klein always does good as Gomamon.


Phelece Semplar
That should be Philece Sampler

[Rolling Cloud]

Any news on what they're doing for the OP/ED? Making new ones or using the originals?

[PC!]

I'd imagine they'll make new ones. I do know that they aren't using the season 4 theme like they did with the movies.

[veemonjosh]

Any news on what they're doing for the OP/ED? Making new ones or using the originals?

If they use the original opening at all, it'll be the same case as the Star Force dub, where the animation is used, but it's just unrelated instrumental stuff instead of the actual song.

[bigddan11]

If they use the original opening at all, it'll be the same case as the Star Force dub, where the animation is used, but it's just unrelated instrumental stuff instead of the actual song.
Not necessarily. Toei USA is helping with it, and they had Bobobo keep its original opening, though they never went to the second one.

[veemonjosh]

I still say it's a shame they got a new Agumon.

For the record, Tom Fahn's version of Agumon would be horrible for the Savers Agumon, since they're so different in personality.

Plus, Agumon got a new voice in Japan as well, so it's being consistant.

[Razor]

What the hell? Changing Mercurimon's name completely destroys the reference of the Oylmpians. The names are supposed to come from the Greek/Roman gods.The fact that there's already a digimon who sounds like Mercurymon probably has something to do with it.


So, King is somehow more acceptable than Lord? This also doesn't make any sense, because Lilithmon clearly is female, and thus, not a King.A Lord is a guy too, man.

And "Seven Demon Kings" is a just as valid translation of "Nana Dai Maou" - Ou being the part that's translated as "lord" or "king"... hence Ouryuumon being the "King Dragon monster" in many translations, Alphamon's "Kyuukyoku Senjin Ou Ryuu Ken" being called the "Ultimate War Blade King Dragon Sword", and Leomon's "Juu Ou Ken" being translated as "Beast King Fist." It's not a name change, it's an alternate translation.

And once again, a Lord is a male title.


Yes, this makes perfect sense, of course...

Rise is a real word, Rize is gibberish nonsense. GREAT CHANGE!


It's Rize in Japan. They can't edit the background this time.

[Razor]

Not necessarily. Toei USA is helping with it, and they had Bobobo keep its original opening, though they never went to the second one.

They've said that it'll be a new theme, man. Though that doesn't neccessarily mean it'll be just like SF's.

[Rolling Cloud]

If they use the original opening at all, it'll be the same case as the Star Force dub, where the animation is used, but it's just unrelated instrumental stuff instead of the actual song.


I'd imagine they'll make new ones. I do know that they aren't using the season 4 theme like they did with the movies.

That's better than nothing! /=


Not necessarily. Toei USA is helping with it, and they had Bobobo keep its original opening, though they never went to the second one.

Which was a downright shame.

[Razor]

Not necessarily. Toei USA is helping with it, and they had Bobobo keep its original opening, though they never went to the second one.

They've said that it'll be a new theme, man. Though that doesn't neccessarily mean it'll be just like SF's.

EDIT - Oh, and you guys need to change something.

Gotsumon is voiced by Micheal Lindsay, not Robert Martin Klein.

[bigddan11]

The fact that there's already a digimon who sounds like Mercurymon probably has something to do with it.



A Lord is a guy too, man.

And "Seven Demon Kings" is a just as valid translation of "Nana Dai Maou" - Ou being the part that's translated as "lord" or "king"... hence Ouryuumon being the "King Dragon monster" in many translations, Alphamon's "Kyuukyoku Senjin Ou Ryuu Ken" being called the "Ultimate War Blade King Dragon Sword", and Leomon's "Juu Ou Ken" being translated as "Beast King Fist." It's not a name change, it's an alternate translation.

And once again, a Lord is a male title.
Lord is also used as a religious reference many times, but King doesn't typically refer to religion. Many series remove religious references when brought to the US, so it makes sense to me.


They've said that it'll be a new theme, man. Though that doesn't neccessarily mean it'll be just like SF's.
I've never seen an official site where they said a new theme would be used for the opening.


EDIT - Oh, and you guys need to change something.

Gotsumon is voiced by Micheal Lindsay, not Robert Martin Klein.
Look at it closely. It says Gotsumon is voiced by Michael Lindsey, but Gomamon is voiced by Robert Michael Klien.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

The fact that there's already a digimon who sounds like Mercurymon probably has something to do with it.

Well, that's the dubbers fault to begin with, for changing Mercuremon's name in Frontier.




A Lord is a guy too, man.'Lords' can apply to both genders as a plural title, though.


And "Seven Demon Kings" is a just as valid translation of "Nana Dai Maou" - Ou being the part that's translated as "lord" or "king"... hence Ouryuumon being the "King Dragon monster" in many translations, Alphamon's "Kyuukyoku Senjin Ou Ryuu Ken" being called the "Ultimate War Blade King Dragon Sword", and Leomon's "Juu Ou Ken" being translated as "Beast King Fist." It's not a name change, it's an alternate translation.Yes, but King implies holding sovereignty, which the Seven Great Demon Lords don't. They don't have territory or subjects. 'Lord' is a more general term. The translation doesn't make sense.

[PC!]

EDIT - Oh, and you guys need to change something.

Gotsumon is voiced by Micheal Lindsay, not Robert Martin Klein.

Huh? It says Gotsumon is voiced by Michael Lindsay, and RMK is voicing Gomamon.

Personally, I can't wait to hear how it sounds. I'm not very familiar with Michael Lindsay's work outside of Digimon, so I'm intrigued.

[Tay the Cat]

'Lords' can apply to both genders as a plural title, though.


Huh?

That's a new one.

[Razor]

Lord is also used as a religious reference many times, but King doen't typically refer to religion. Many series remove religious references when brought to the US, so it makes sense to me.

Dude, in this case, it's too vague a case to assume the worst.


Yes, but King implies holding sovereignty, which the Seven Great Demon Lords don't. They don't have territory or subjects. 'Lord' is a more general term. The translation doesn't make sense.

Except, again, the word being translated into "Lord" ALSO translates to king.

And Lord is more general? What are they lording over? Themselves? Nevermind that the term doesn't have anything to do with their role, it's derived from their CLASSIFICATION in the Digimon meta-fiction.

Furthermore, you've got a bit of a fallacy in assuming a translation a bunch of unproffessionals and fans is more valid and reflective of creator intentions, especially considering their name has never been written in english.



Well, that's the dubbers fault to begin with, for ch angine Mercuremon's name in Frontier.


So, you honestly don't see the problem in having two digimon whose names sound exactly alike except for one slightly different vowel sound?

Good to know.

[Razor]

Huh? It says Gotsumon is voiced by Michael Lindsay, and RMK is voicing Gomamon.

Personally, I can't wait to hear how it sounds. I'm not very familiar with Michael Lindsay's work outside of Digimon, so I'm intrigued.

Oh. My apologies.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Except, again, the word being translated into "Lord" ALSO translates to king.

And Lord is more general? What are they lording over? Themselves? Nevermind that the term doesn't have anything to do with their role, it's derived from their CLASSIFICATION in the Digimon meta-fiction.

'Demon Lord' is a classification. 'Seven Great Demon Lords' is a group.

Not all Demon Lords are members of the Seven Great Demon Lords, and they are referred to as 'The Seven Great Demon Lords' in series. So it does have to do with their role, just like the Royal Knights and Holy Beasts.


So, you honestly don't see the problem in having two digimon whose names sound exactly alike except for one slightly different vowel sound?

Good to know.

It's not as confusing as 'Garurumon' and 'Gururumon', is it?

[Rolling Cloud]

I'm glad that a lot of big name VA's are going to be in this dub.

Blum, Freeman, Sheh, etc. ^_^

[Razor]

'Demon Lord' is a classification. 'Seven Great Demon Lords' is a group.

Not all Demon Lords are members of the Seven Great Demon Lords, and they are referred to as 'The Seven Great Demon Lords' in series. So it does have to do with their role, just like the Royal Knights and Holy Beasts.

It's the classification + a number and an adjective thrown in front of it. It's the fact that they have "Seven Great" or just "Seven" in the title to set them apart. And again, you're not responding to the fact that your assumption is a fallacy.

The 4 Holy Beasts are the same. Holy Beast is ALSO a Classification. The DEVAS are Holy Beasts, for crying out loud. Do you think a group of seven Demon Lords and a group of four Holy Beasts having their Types in the title is a coincidence?


It's not as confusing as 'Garurumon' and 'Gururumon', is it?

That's pretty damn confusing too.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

It's the classification + a number and an adjective thrown in front of it. It's the fact that they have "Seven Great" or just "Seven" in the title to set them apart. And again, you're not responding to the fact that your assumption is a fallacy.

The 4 Holy Beasts are the same. Holy Beast is ALSO a Classification. The DEVAS are Holy Beasts, for crying out loud. Do you think a group of seven Demon Lords and a group of four Holy Beasts having their Types in the title is a coincidence?

It's their classification plus something else.

There are multiple demon lords, but only Seven Great Demon Lords. It refers to something more. Same with the Holy Beasts. It refers to more than just a classification, hence why it's something else in addition to the classification.

There are many demon lords and holy beasts, but only Seven Great Demon Lords and Four Holy Beasts.

It's not a coincidence, but it is the name of their group. It's more than just a classification.



That's pretty damn confusing too.

I still fail to see the problem with Mercurimon. Besides, the dub name is gibberish nonsense.

[Tay the Cat]

I still fail to see the problem with Mercurimon. Besides, the dub name is gibberish nonsense.

I'll admit, as much I've professed my love of Jeff Nimoy (not like that, of course) on this forum in the past, that doesn't make a bit of sense.

[Razor]

Alright, alright, we're just arguing semantics here now.

Nevertheless, you haven't proven why Lord is a superior title or a superior translation, especially since the word that's allegedly translated to "Lord" is more often translated to King in the first place.


I still fail to see the problem with Mercurimon. Besides, the dub name is gibberish nonsense.

"Hey kids, this guy's name is Mercur-EE-mon. Totally different from Mercur-ehh-mon! They're totally different sounding names, seriously!"

The name isn't great, but neither version is good on this issue, and I don't think they're bad for going with it. There were some potentially better names, but eh.

[jeff_iz_XLent]

You're sad, alright. BTW, mentioning YouTube isn't allowed here. But no matter, as I have a feeling you won't be here very long.

This has nothing to do with savers.Also,this should be the best season ever.

LAWL.You are brainwashed,you know that?The rules I've seen so far are that we can't post a youtube link but mentioning is all right,all right?You take yourself way too seriously.

"You're sad,alright." no,Blackie.You're sad.You aint got no free thinkin' hardly 'round here.
So truthfully,I feel sorry for you.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

This has nothing to do with savers.Also,this should be the best season ever.

LAWL.You are brainwashed,you know that?The rules I've seen so far are that we can't post a youtube link but mentioning is all right,all right?You take yourself way too seriously.

"You're sad,alright." no,Blackie.You're sad.You aint got no free thinkin' hardly 'round here.
So truthfully,I feel sorry for you.

You can't mention any sort of illegal viewing/downloading of any properties not in public domain.

[jeff_iz_XLent]

It's their classification plus something else.

There are multiple demon lords, but only Seven Great Demon Lords. It refers to something more. Same with the Holy Beasts. It refers to more than just a classification, hence why it's something else in addition to the classification.

There are many demon lords and holy beasts, but only Seven Great Demon Lords and Four Holy Beasts.

It's not a coincidence, but it is the name of their group. It's more than just a classification.






Hmm.So basically were getting more groups of evil Digimon like in the past seasons?

Like Dark Masters for Season 1 and the Soverign Digimon from season 3?

But wow,these new evil Digimon groups sound great. :D

[veemonjosh]

But wow,these new evil Digimon groups sound great. :D

...The Seven Great Demon Lords aren't exactly a new group. They've existed in the Digimon multiverse as far back as the original manga.

[jeff_iz_XLent]

...The Seven Great Demon Lords aren't exactly a new group. They've existed in the Digimon multiverse as far back as the original manga.

I haven't been readin' up on the manga.Mostly jest DBZ n' such.

But I've watched Digimon since season 1 and if dat weren't enough I've seen the first 5 episodes of Digimon Savers subbed.whoot.

[Razor]

...The Seven Great Demon Lords aren't exactly a new group. They've existed in the Digimon multiverse as far back as the original manga.

No, certain members of them have.

The group as a whole wasn't concieved until after season 4, when the ones that aren't Lucemon or Daemon were added to the card game.

[PC!]

NEW- Biyomon will be male and played by Terrance Stone (Yoruichi's cat form in Bleach).

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well, at least they aren't screwing up Piyomon's gender, which I was fairly sure they would. So I'll give minor credit for that, but it doesn't make up for everything else.

[Rolling Cloud]

Terrance? *exhales breath* It's not that I can't stand him, it's just that his voice sounds too bland. There's no energy in it. /=

*shrugs* I can't change this though.

[Razor]

Info on the video game:


Digimon World Data Squad will have the Japanese music.
It will be English only, no Japanese language track.
Only characters who spoke in the japanese version will speak in the english dub.
There will be NO story edits like have been done to Naruto games to not 'jump ahead' of the show.

Dawn/Dusk- Data Squad characters will stay in as they did in the Japanese version, no idea about the Next Characters.

And now for some cast and character news for Digimon World Data Squad.


Biyomon will be female and played by... Melodee Spevack (who was Birdramon, Garudamon, and LadyDevimon in the show.



And now for the big fun fun fun yay news.


Renamon will be female...and played by......


Mari Devon

Awesome. Renamon being a guy in Another Mission was always... very WTF.

[Rolling Cloud]

NEW- Biyomon will be male and played by Terrance Stone (Yoruichi's cat form in Bleach).


Biyomon will be female and played by... Melodee Spevack (who was Birdramon, Garudamon, and LadyDevimon in the show.


Wait wait, I'm confused now. :confused:

[Razor]

There's a Biyomon in the video game whose another character entirely. It's a girl and a partner to some guy who dresses like Lupin the III.

[Rolling Cloud]

There's a Biyomon in the video game whose another character entirely. It's a girl and a partner to some guy who dresses like Lupin the III.

That makes sense. Thanks for explaining that.

[PC!]

Thanks for the info, Razor. I added it along with what other info on the game was available.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Info on the video game:



Awesome. Renamon being a guy in Another Mission was always... very WTF.

Wait, so changing genders in a localization is viewed as a good thing now? I must have missed some paradigm shift or something.

[Gokou Ruri]

Wait, so changing genders in a localization is viewed as a good thing now? I must have missed some paradigm shift or something. In case like Zoicite and Renamon, yes.

[Razor]

Wait, so changing genders in a localization is viewed as a good thing now? I must have missed some paradigm shift or something.

In this case? Since it's purely a WTF fact that Renamon's a guy in that game, despite evolving into Sakuyamon (which is still voiced by the male seiyuu), and considering all other fictional Renamons are girls?

Yes. In this case, very much YES.

[NewcomerDC]

NEW- Biyomon will be male and played by Terrance Stone (Yoruichi's cat form in Bleach).

Yeaaahh, and I'm actually LadyDevimon in disguise. I mean come on really. Why would Biyomon be male. for the sake of continuity you would think that Nimoy, or in this case,Toei Animation, would have kept Biyomon into a female. The sex changes are a bit too much for me.

[bigddan11]

NEW- Biyomon will be male and played by Terrance Stone (Yoruichi's cat form in Bleach).

FYI- It's Terrence Stone, with an e, not Terrance Stone.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=3675

[KuwabaraTheMan]

In this case? Since it's purely a WTF fact that Renamon's a guy in that game, despite evolving into Sakuyamon (which is still voiced by the male seiyuu), and considering all other fictional Renamons are girls?

Yes. In this case, very much YES.

But there's nothing that says all Renamon have to be female, just as there have been other Digimon that typically appear as one gender, but then have another gender in a different version.


Yeaaahh, and I'm actually LadyDevimon in disguise. I mean come on really. Why would Biyomon be male. for the sake of continuity you would think that Nimoy, or in this case,Toei Animation, would have kept Biyomon into a female. The sex changes are a bit too much for me.

Piyomon in Digimon Savers in male. Yes, the Piyomon in Digimon Adventure was a female, but that has no bearing on this one, just like this Agumon isn't connected to the Digimon Adventure one, and the Agumon in Digimon NEXT is not connected to either.

[Yash]

Digimon World Data Squad will have the Japanese music.
question

Do the Digimon World games use the same soundtrack as the series?

[Razor]

Yes, and one of Renamon's "default" evolutions in the game is Sakuyamon. It's the character's "main" form, as it's given a voice actor, so it's not just a "side" or "meaningless" form. And it has the voice actor trying to pretend to sound like a girl.

So, yeah, a transgendered fox person in this video game is rather dumb.

Biyomon gets a pass because all the forms it adopts are androgynous.

[Burgundy Ranger]

One scheduling point. It's only in the first week of October where there's a new episode on Friday night.

There are six for the month, five on Mondays.

[PC!]

Thanks for the tip, Burg.

Episode titles 2-6 added. They aren't the Japanese titles, of course, but it seems they're trying to stay more faithful to the original titles.

[Raidon Makoto]

Slightly disappointed by Merukimon, but I can see the logic behind that.

And honestly, Kuwabara, I've said it before, but can you save complaining about the new dub until after it airs? It may actually be good...

[Storm Eagle]

Thanks for the tip, Burg.

Episode titles 2-6 added. They aren't the Japanese titles, of course, but it seems they're trying to stay more faithful to the original titles.

I think it's cool that they're using titles like the Japanese would use.

By the way, You're saying "The Return of Thomas" is a Friday premiere when it'll actually premiere on a Monday. The eighth of October doesn't fall on a Friday.

Also, it's Philece Sampler. Not Phelece Semplar.

[PC!]

By the way, You're saying "The Return of Thomas" is a Friday premiere when it'll actually premiere on a Monday. The eighth of October doesn't fall on a Friday.

Whoops, accidentally put it on the wrong episode. Thanks for pointing it out.

[NewcomerDC]

Will there be any news on the upcoming episodes. Hopefully I can tape these without the new bottom of the screen ads Toon Disney have been playing since their summer promotion.

[PC!]

Unfortunately, TD is infamous for intrusive ads.

Burg will keep us up to date when new episodes air with his monthly schedule topics. This topic mainly serves to provide the latest news and information up to the airing of the series. As soon as it starts airing, this topic will no longer be updated.

[veemonjosh]

It may actually be good...

I lol'd.

[PC!]

New info on how the Digimon analyzer will work.

[Raidon Makoto]

I lol'd.
Kill me for being an optimist.

[Yash]

Kill me for being an optimist.
Gladly.

The last dub I was optimistic about was the One Piece dub. Look how that turned out.

[BCVM22]

The last dub I was optimistic about was the One Piece dub. Look how that turned out.

Because One Piece and Savers are being dubbed by the same staff, with the same voice cast, right?

[Rolling Cloud]

Because One Piece and Savers are being dubbed by the same staff, with the same voice cast, right?

No, but they just might suck the same amount, or they might be good! *shrugs* Ending it here to save the thread from getting locked. DONE!

EDIT: Everyone, please continue with your regulary scheduled thread, =]

[NinjaJack]

No, but they just might suck the same amount, or they might be good! *shrugs* Ending it here to save the thread from getting locked. DONE!

EDIT: Everyone, please continue with your regulary scheduled thread, =]

That was honorable, you get a robin:robin:

[YoshiAngemon]

I guess if anything works out good, I'll be able to watch it on the newly aquired Comcast Digital Cable, or at least Youtube or Jetix.TV.

[Rolling Cloud]

That was honorable, you get a robin:robin:

Yay for me! ^_^

[FightingDreamer]

I've never seen Savers, but I like the cast so far, although the Merukimon/Mercurymon is just weird.

I am going to laugh so hard if KTM actually watches the dub and thinks it's not bad. The likelihood of that happening is about, oh, a million to one, so I'm not taking any bets.

[Aldrius]

oh yay. Mari Devon, Kirk Thornton, Paul St. Peter, Quinton Flynn. Outstanding cast.

[Razor]

I was watching Jetix this morning, and they've started running a Data Squad promo. I caught only a bit of it, with GeoGreymon's voice and a shot of Marcus punching a digimon.

EDIT - I just caught a second promo, so... there's two of them floating about.

[PC!]

A promo finally, huh? I've seen plenty of Batman and Superman promos. It's great to know that one of the only new shows in Jetix's library is actually getting some love. I'll be on the lookout.

[PC!]

Ah, finally caught the promo.

And uploaded it for your viewing pleasure. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IjFBx53tM68)

Please forgive the lousy editing...or lack thereof. I simply ripped the quick DVD recording I did. ^^;; In any event, enjoy.

And...DNA charge?

[Razor]

From The Digiport.com about the DNA Charge change:


The new promotional commercials on ToonDisney for Data Squad features Marcus yelling "DNA Charge!" I've asked Jeff about this, and why the game is going to use Digisoul. Here's his reply:

"Well, I don't know why, but at some point, either Toei or Disney decided to change Digisoul to DNA, so the game and the show will be different in that aspect. Something for the trivia geeks to talk about. But the show still kicks *****, so I hope you like it."

[Antiyonder]

No, but they just might suck the same amount, or they might be good! *shrugs* Ending it here to save the thread from getting locked. DONE!

EDIT: Everyone, please continue with your regulary scheduled thread, =]

This isn't a dub bashing I'm typing, but I'll delete it if requested.

On that note, 4Kids did pretty well on Pokemon while Tokyo Mew Mew wasn't their best.

I'd chalk it down to David Goyer (Blade Trinity and Batman Begins) working on Magneto. It could go either way.

[Rolling Cloud]

I am going to laugh so hard if KTM actually watches the dub and thinks it's not bad. The likelihood of that happening is about, oh, a million to one, so I'm not taking any bets.

That would be a severe case of irony. =/ ( No offense, KtM)


And uploaded it for your viewing pleasure. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IjFBx53tM68)
Decent promo, looking forward to it.


This isn't a dub bashing I'm typing, but I'll delete it if requested.

O_o, umm, don't worry about it. I agree with you! ^.^

[Yash]

Because One Piece and Savers are being dubbed by the same staff, with the same voice cast, right?
Thanks for missing the point.

Something about the director changing the names just because he can rubs me the wrong way, sorry.

[TheAnimeBoy16]

Ah, finally caught the promo.

And uploaded it for your viewing pleasure.

Please forgive the lousy editing...or lack thereof. I simply ripped the quick DVD recording I did. ^^;; In any event, enjoy.

And...DNA charge?

Nice to see Jetix is givin' some love to this baby! It looked as though they weren't gonna give DDS even 1 promo. Looks like Jetix is really gonna put this to the forefront of their BIG fall package. As for DNA charge, it's better than what I thought it would be. It makes sense, and is a much simpler way than explaining what a "soul" is. I would've been fine with DNA Modify if they wanted to give it a throwback to season 3. Y'know what would've given me fear? DNA/DigiSoul Energize! When I saw the promo(s), I laughed, squealed, and felt weird seeing the characters on American Television! You're looking at a 16-year-old who'll be in heaven on October 1st, 2007!

[Tay the Cat]

Something about the director changing the names just because he can rubs me the wrong way, sorry.
Well, he's the director and he CAN, plain and simple.

[Razor]

I'm... not seeing how DNA is an easier concept to explain than a Soul, and seeing as how Toon Disney is fine with throwing "SPIRIT Evolution" into their promos, I doubt it's religious censorship either.

And since Nimoy has to run names by the people in charge and gets told what to do, I doubt the name changes are all his bag. I mean, like, obviously he comes up with them, but it depends on what the people above him want, and what not.

[PC!]

Looks like Jetix is really gonna put this to the forefront of their BIG fall package.

They should, but I doubt that's the case, considering all the love they seem to be giving to Batman and Superman.

As if a brand new show should rightfully get the spotlight instead of two 15-year old shows. :\

[Razor]

I dunnow, they've been running these promos just as much as the BTAS or Superman promos since they started yesterday. And there's several versions too, as opposed to the all of one that each of those have gotten. It just took a bit longer for ours to get here.

[FightingDreamer]

Eh, that was a decent promo, although Quinton Flynn sounds really odd as Marcus. It's like he inhaled helium before recording or something. Ah, well. I still wanna see this for Colleen O'Shaughnessey's return to Digimon.

[Storm Eagle]

Eh, that was a decent promo, although Quinton Flynn sounds really odd as Marcus. It's like he inhaled helium before recording or something.

At first I thought it sounded like Derek Stephen Prince.

[Yash]

Well, he's the director and he CAN, plain and simple.
I'm not saying he can't, or anything. I'm just saying that if I were a director who was trying to make the show better, I would spend more time focusing on scripting and voice directing than changing a kid's name to Keenan.

[Razor]

You honestly think it takes up enough time to make a difference?

[BCVM22]

You honestly think it takes up enough time to make a difference?

You'd be surprised. In my experience, those who are dead-set against liking the dubbed version are going to be so regardless of any changes made or not made, for whatever reason, by whatever individual.

[Yash]

You honestly think it takes up enough time to make a difference?
No. I just wouldn't concern myself with changing the names, especially when the licensors have specifically requested the names not be changed.


You'd be surprised. In my experience, those who are dead-set against liking the dubbed version are going to be so regardless of any changes made or not made, for whatever reason, by whatever individual.
You're right, you know. I'm just a bitter elitist who hates anything dubbed, and I jump to conclusions a lot, which is what you're doing.

[Raidon Makoto]

I was only able to watch it muted atm, but the promo looked good. It gave me so much nostalgia of watching the first few seasons as a kid :P

10/1/07 is going to be nostalgia heaven.

[Conan-san]

More then likely someone is working on aquiring Data Squad for the UK. Oh, if it's a weekly deal, then forget it, You'd be better drawing blood out of a stone.

[Razor]

No. I just wouldn't concern myself with changing the names, especially when the licensors have specifically requested the names not be changed.

Except, in this case, they've requested the exact OPPOSITE.

[Yash]

Except, in this case, they've requested the exact OPPOSITE.
Sorry, you're wrong. Bandai and Toei didn't want Jeff Nimoy to change the names, and if they did, they wouldn't have called Marcus and Keenan by their original names in the various merchandise and official websites that came before the dub. Heck, Toei's official English site (which is updated regularly) still hasn't "fixed" the names.

[Razor]

Bandai of America released Digimon World DS without a full idea of who the characters actually were or that they'd be appearing in a series a year later.

As for official web-sites... eh? There's only Toei's "official web-site", and that was made way back and can't be used as an official source for anything because they had no idea where production'd end up. And the people working on it aren't exactly on the ball, either.

If Toei honestly had a problem, they would have put an end to it... hell, they may have very well been responsible for DNA Charge, according to Nimoy. Newsflash, the original creators aren't always on your side.

[Tay the Cat]

Sorry, you're wrong. Bandai and Toei didn't want Jeff Nimoy to change the names, and if they did, they wouldn't have called Marcus and Keenan by their original names in the various merchandise and official websites that came before the dub. Heck, Toei's official English site (which is updated regularly) still hasn't "fixed" the names.

If Bandai and Toei cared, they would've told Nimoy to stay away.

[Rolling Cloud]

If Bandai and Toei cared, they would've told Nimoy to stay away.

That's a good point.

[Razor]

That's a rather biased way of putting it.

I'd say more so that they're not worried about the same things you guys are.

[Conan-san]

If Toei honestly had a problem, they would have put an end to it... hell, they may have very well been responsible for DNA Charge, according to Nimoy. Newsflash, the original creators aren't always on your side.And in the case of Toei, expect not only for them to plot your downfall at every minute of your life but they plan to do it with a nail bat.
And for them to aim at your hind quarters with said nail bat.

Seriously, Biggest pain in the ass in the anime industry this side of Odex.

[BCVM22]

And in the case of Toei, expect not only for them to plot your downfall at every minute of your life but they plan to do it with a nail bat.
And for them to aim at your hind quarters with said nail bat.

Seriously, Biggest pain in the ass in the anime industry this side of Odex.

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/images/smiles/eusa_eh.gif ...what?

[li_mangaman]

The 15 second promo aired, I have uploaded it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRWAEXNzlyw

I had not realized that a 30 second promo had aired prior to the one I just uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjFBx53tM68&mode=related&search=

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I saw a promo focusing on Masaru.

[Razor]

Just saw a new promo.

This one started with the usual "two worlds will collide" bit, but it then shows the Megas, and then talks about how Data Squad will have to do something or other.

EDIT - Ok, I just saw it again and I misremembered it.

It begins with "Two Worlds will collide", shows the whole group, and then two of the evolved forms.

[Yash]

If Bandai and Toei cared, they would've told Nimoy to stay away.
Not necessarily. I imagine they looked at his resume and realized he had prior experience with the franchise.

They did tell him not to change the names for marketing purposes, though. I can't find the source, but I know they told him not to.

[Razor]

How convenient for you.

[Razor]

Ok, I just saw another version of the promo that I reported a bit earlier. It's a longer one. It specifically says that it'll be on October 1st, still has the shot of evolved forms, and has Thomas talking.

Something to look forward to.

[PC!]

They spoiled the megas already? Good gravy, spoil the speculation, why don't you, TD?

So we got to hear Freeman's Thomas, eh? How was it?

[Razor]

It wasn't long enough for me to make an opinion.

and DWDS kind of spoils that on its own, man.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Ah, finally caught the promo.

And uploaded it for your viewing pleasure. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IjFBx53tM68)

Please forgive the lousy editing...or lack thereof. I simply ripped the quick DVD recording I did. ^^;; In any event, enjoy.

And...DNA charge?

Submitted as proof the dub will suck.

Masaru's dub voice sounds horrible, as predicted. I mean seriously, Quinton Flynn is a terrible choice.

And 'DNA Charge'. That change is just horrible.

A) Digimon don't have DNA, so it's more gibberish nonsense for the dub
B) The concept of a 'Digisoul' is crucial to Savers, therefore the story is screwed.

Way to go Disney.

[Conan-san]

Of course, your reaction is a forgone conclusion, they're not speaking in rawly translated Ja-glish

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Of course, your reaction is a forgone conclusion, they're not speaking in japanese for one thing.

*blinks*

What does that mean?

Why would they have to speak in Japanese for me to like it?

[Burgundy Ranger]

*blinks*

What does that mean?One bit of advice: Comments like this one do nothing but make the "other side's" argument that much stronger.

[Rolling Cloud]

Submitted as proof the dub will suck.

A) Digimon don't have DNA, so it's more gibberish nonsense for the dub
B) The concept of a 'Digisoul' is crucial to Savers, therefore the story is screwed.

Way to go Disney.

Wow, almost the same reasons I hate the GX dub. =/


So we got to hear Freeman's Thomas, eh? How was it?

Crispin Freeman's a good VA, I'm sure there's 92.7% chance he'll nail it.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

*blinks*

What does that mean?

Why would they have to speak in Japanese for me to like it?


Not trying to be a "dub elitist" here, but if you dislike the dubbing methods SO MUCH, why do you even bother discussing it at the lengths you do? If this was the only topic you brought it up, it'd be okay. But it's not. It's every. Damn. One.

If you really dislike the dub so much, why not just...ignore it? You've criticized it enough, we get it. You don't like it. I would also extend this to anyone who overbashes ANY dub, especially when they have access to the original. Being displeased with how a franchise you enjoy is being represented in other regions is fine, don't get me wrong (I hate, hate, hate how the old Hanna Barbera superheroes are now nothing more than parodies), but I like to think there's a limit.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but please, just shut up. You've said enough. You don't even need to discuss a Digimon topic anymore, the rest of us can infer what you have to say.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

One bit of advice: Comments like this one do nothing but make the "other side's" argument that much stronger.

I was confused by the comment, and asked for clarification. Should I just let people make esoteric posts about me and go on, not knowing if I was insulted or not.

[Ducard]

A) Digimon don't have DNA, so it's more gibberish nonsense for the dub

Is that absolute? In Tamers, the Digimon required proteins etc. to gain physical bodies for entering the real world.

[Conan-san]

Is that absolute? In Tamers, the Digimon required proteins etc. to gain physical bodies for entering the real world.He supports they, don't give him the meens to fight with his commey they talk.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

He supports they, don't give him the meens to fight with his commey they talk.

Digimon are beings composed of data. This is absolute.

I'm basing my claims on the show.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Being ignored is awesome.

[Rolling Cloud]

So far there's no news on whether or not, Yggdrasil will keep his name.

*checks* Whoo, I spelled it right! *throws imaginary confetti*

[Conan-san]

So far there's no news on whether or not, Yggdrasil will keep his name.
Oh yeah, they'll name it Fernier, forreal.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I already have a bet on Yggdrasil being renamed 'Larry'.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

I already have a bet on Yggdrasil being renamed 'Larry'.

That'd be awesome. I'd love a cosmic, digital being to have such a mundane name. We can go ahead and change Masaru from Marcus to Derek, too. Derek's a cool name.

[Rolling Cloud]

Can the flaming just stop? Please, keep this thread civil. If it annoys you that much, put KtM on your ignore list (no offense, KtM) and continue on.

[Razor]

Digimon don't have digi-souls normally either, Kuwa.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Digimon don't have digi-souls normally either, Kuwa.

But the concept is explained in the series. It's vital to the series, even. Changing it makes no sense.

[Razor]

What's vital to the series is why this power suddenly awakens in people and how they relate to the digimon. That can easily still apply here.

also:

http://lcd.wtw-x.net/Accelerator/dna_scan-1.htm

They've used something like this before, and it related completely to the digimon.

[li_mangaman]

Another 15 second promo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzGIcqtPsho

[PC!]

Ooh, Crispin does indeed make a good Thomas. I'm used to his voice being so much deeper. Then again, I don't follow his roles very much.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well, I told people way back when that Flynn and Freeman would be terrible as 14 year olds, and I feel vindicated.

Freeman's voice just doesn't work at all. He sounds very flat, and several years older than Tohma should. The voice lacks the edge that the character needs.

I'll accept apologies from people who said I was wrong.

[BCVM22]

I'll accept apologies from people who said I was wrong.

Bring a cushion and several books to read whilst you wait.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Bring a cushion and several books to read whilst you wait.

*grabs V-Tamer and Battle NEXT* Might as well get in the Digimon mood. :p

[Rolling Cloud]

Freeman did sound a little off from that clip, his voice was deeper than what i thought it would be, I thought he should have used a variation of his Itachi voice.

[Tay the Cat]

I'll accept apologies from people who said I was wrong.
Not happening in a million years.

[Razor]

I see Kuwa's got his selective memory of Touma's Japanese voice again.

Anyway, Thomas sounds great.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Not happening in a million years.


Pffft. "KTM was right" shirts will be in vogue by next summer.

But seriously, I'm not sure how anyone can defend the voice clips we've hear do far, especially Flynn's.

He sounds WAY too nasally for Masaru. There's no edge there at all. He also sounds too old. He sounds like a 23 year old still living in his mom's basement, not a tough 14 year old punk. Bosch would have been a better choice, although much of the blame falls on Jeff Nimoy's directing 'talents'.

Freeman is slightly better, but as I pointed out just doesn't have the right feel for Tohma. He also sounds really flat, like he's just reading these lines for his paycheck and getting the hell out of there. At least most of the actors in 4Kids One Piece, aside from Arlong and Tashigi, sounded like they were trying.

Could the voices improve? Yeah. Will they? I doubt it. Nimoy doesn't really have a great track record, aside from Naruto and Zatch Bell, and we know from comments of other people who work on those shows that Viz is very heavy handed with them.



I see Kuwa's got his selective memory of Touma's Japanese voice again.

Anyway, Thomas sounds great.



I don't recall the episodes where Hirofumi Nojima sounded really flat and nerdy. Can you point them out to me?

[Rolling Cloud]

At least most of the actors in 4Kids One Piece, aside from Arlong and Tashigi, sounded like they were trying.

Vivi sounded like she was trying? :confused:

[Rocketboy]

Touma sounds a little like Dan Green.

[Razor]

Flat and nerdy? How are you quantifying nerdy here?

And my god man, where are you getting all of this assessment from about five seconds of dialogue? I like it, but I'll be the first to admit you don't really have very much to go on.

What I was challenging, however, is your assessment of it being too deep or old for a teenager, which is odd, considering how his Japanese actor sounds. You either weren't paying attention to it, or are ignoring it (either purposely or unintentionally) in order to help your argument.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Flat and nerdy? How are you quantifying nerdy here?

And my god man, where are you getting all of this assessment from about five seconds of dialogue? I like it, but I'll be the first to admit you don't really have very much to go on.

What I was challenging, however, is your assessment of it being too deep or old for a teenager, which is odd, considering how his Japanese actor sounds. You either weren't paying attention to it, or are ignoring it (either purposely or unintentionally) in order to help your argument.



'nerdy' was just the first word that came to mind. He just doesn't have the edge Tohma needs in that clip.

And like I said, it's possible the voices are better and they just chose bad clips. But I'm not hopeful. Especially with Flynn, where his whole voice sounds off, and he was clearly a miscast from the start.

As far as Tohma's Japanese voice, yes he sounded a little older than 14. But not moreso than your average angsty anime character does. Freeman sounds even older than that.

The fact is, Freeman's range can't extend down far enough to play this role well.

[Tay the Cat]

With Flynn, he was only cast because Nimoy required it.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

With Flynn, he was only cast because Nimoy required it.

...Thank you for helping to prove my point.

I mean, really.

[Razor]

With Flynn, he was only cast because Nimoy required it.

Can you please explain that in a manner that makes sense? And source, please, so we don't expect people to just agree with it sight unseen.


'nerdy' was just the first word that came to mind. He just doesn't have the edge Tohma needs in that clip.

And you got this. From ten seconds. Inside. In what could be any kind of conversation.

Right. There goes your credibility.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

And you got this. From ten seconds. Inside. In what could be any kind of conversation.


Right. There goes your credibility.



A clip chosen to advertise his character. Not promising, really.

All I'm saying is that it doesn't sound like a fitting voice. I even said it's possible it could improve. But with Jeff "Can't direct out of a brown paper bag" Nimoy running the show, I doubt it.

It doesn't the change the fact you can hear him turning the pages.

[Tay the Cat]

Can you please explain that in a manner that makes sense? And source, please, so we don't expect people to just agree with it sight unseen.

I can't provide a source.

It was a private conversation and I'm not sharing it out of respect.

[Razor]

Chosen to advertise the character... for about ten seconds. It's also a general promo focused more on advertising the show in general, and not really meant to give more than small glimpses at things. And you're showing a remarkable ability to glean exactly what you want to glean from those few meager seconds.

And are your accusations towards Mr. Nimoy based on anything more than individual judgements, or are these scathing judgements something you can link the rest of us to with, say, peer reviews of his talent?

[Razor]

I can't provide a source.

It was a private conversation and I'm not sharing it out of respect.

How convenient.

You've already done enough damage by just "hinting" at it like you have some special secret.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Chosen to advertise the character... for about ten seconds. It's also a general promo focused more on advertising the show in general, and not really meant to give more than small glimpses at things. And you're showing a remarkable ability to glean exactly what you want to glean from those few meager seconds.

Like I said, it could improve.

These are just my initial reactions based on what little we have to work with. Same as everyone else.


And are your accusations towards Mr. Nimoy based on anything more than individual judgements, or are these scathing judgements something you can link the rest of us to with, say, peer reviews of his talent?

Judgments of many individuals, and examination of his work.

Maybe I was too harsh, but it's been proven true when it comes to Digimon, at least.

The only series he's worked on that have good direction are ones where he hasn't had as much control as he does with the Digimon series.

Take that as you will.

[Tay the Cat]

How convenient.

You've already done enough damage by just "hinting" at it like you have some special secret.

You don't have to believe me if you choose not to, but I provide sources when I can.

[Razor]

And most of us are saying whether we like it or not, and not analyzing it deeper. So there's a difference.


Judgments of many individuals, and examination of his work.

Maybe I was too harsh, but it's been proven true when it comes to Digimon, at least.

The only series he's worked on that have good direction are ones where he hasn't had as much control as he does with the Digimon series.

Take that as you will.I don't think you quite understand his "freedom" on Digimon as well as you like to think he did, especially since it's been long reported in the fandom that the producers there had him on a pretty firm leash.


You don't have to believe me if you choose not to, but I provide sources when I can.

If this were something you couldn't talk about out of respect, then why say anything to begin with?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

And most of us are saying whether we like it or not, and not analyzing it deeper. So there's a difference.

I was just providing support for why I dislike it.

So now providing support is considered a bad thing? Lovely.


I don't think you quite understand his "freedom" on Digimon as well as you like to think he did, especially since it's been long reported in the fandom that the producers there had him on a pretty firm leash.I meant in terms of people working on the actual show.

And from what I've read, most of the control the execs had over his Digimon dubs was merely in terms of requiring him to put in more jokes. He and Bob Bucholz were the ones who chose to make the jokes so terrible, to change many of the character names(okay, O'Malley deserves a lot of the blame for this, too, and I know Bandai of America had some roll, but the dubs would sometimes ignore their names, in favor of their own ones), to make the voice acting so atrocious, etc.

And I don't recall ever faulting Nimoy for what he really had no control over, like the censorship and the horrible dub music.

[Razor]

I meant in terms of people working on the actual show.

The executive producer doesn't count on this? Good to know.


And from what I've read, most of the control the execs had over his Digimon dubs was merely in terms of requiring him to put in more jokes. He and Bob Bucholz were the ones who chose to make the jokes so terrible, to change many of the character names(okay, O'Malley deserves a lot of the blame for this, too, and I know Bandai of America had some roll, but the dubs would sometimes ignore their names, in favor of their own ones), to make the voice acting so atrocious, etc.

And what, pray tell, would Viz be doing that would be operatively different than any of that?


but the dubs would sometimes ignore their names, in favor of their own ones

That's why they call it a "change", man.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

The executive producer doesn't count on this? Good to know.

I was talking about the direct staff of the show, not the bigwigs. As in the people directly involved.

And the show's producer constantly talked about how much she loved Nimoy's changes.


And what, pray tell, would Viz be doing that would be operatively different than any of that?

A lot, from what Liam O'Brien has said about Naruto. I could dig up quotes some other time, if you really want me to.

But essentially any crucial line of dialogue is determined directly by Viz higher ups, with the writing staff having no say on it.


That's why they call it a "change", man.

Needless changes are not good.

This is what they call "artistic integrity", man.

[Razor]

And the show's producer constantly talked about how much she loved Nimoy's changes.

And Nimoy left the show because of her and generally looks back on it as a negative experience.


A lot, from what Liam O'Brien has said about Naruto. I could dig up quotes some other time, if you really want me to.

But essentially any crucial line of dialogue is determined directly by Viz higher ups, with the writing staff having no say on it.

Line of dialogue, as in recorded dialogue?

Watch WTW's Kyle Hebert interview. There's a fun story about how Nimoy had to keep running a cat's MEOW past the producer, and that they kept having to change it.


Needless changes are not good.

This is what they call "artistic integrity", man.

Needless to say, why would they acknowledge original names AFTER CHANGING them? I'm arguing your word choice here.

[Rolling Cloud]

*checks thread* Yep, same reason I hate the GX dub. :sweat:

anyways, how many more promos are we gonna get? 3-5 is too many.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Line of dialogue, as in recorded dialogue?


Watch WTW's Kyle Hebert interview. There's a fun story about how Nimoy had to keep running a cat's MEOW past the producer, and that they kept having to change it.

No, I meant the actual script.

That's amusing, but hardly relevant.

Anyways, if Nimoy's hands are tied so much, why is he so proud of what he did and talk about it's 'his style'.

He didn't have complete control, but the pointless name changes, the horrible jokes, etc. He pushes this as his trademark. You can't claim that he's innocent of that.


Needless to say, why would they acknowledge original names AFTER CHANGING them? I'm arguing your word choice here.


Why did they needlessly change the names in the first place?

[Razor]

You'd find that people aren't as "artistically pure" as you'd like to define it, and he seems to have legitimately enjoyed the characters and the universe. And the rest of that (jokes, changed names, etc.) is a purely subjective matter.


No, I meant the actual script.

Nimoy doesn't write for Naruto, at least according to IMDB. That said, your example on them needing approval doesn't have much to do with voice acting.


Why did they needlessly change the names in the first place?

The way you put it (you'd mentioned name changes prior in that post), it seemed like you were saying they should have paid heed to the original names even after it was already done.

Is that not what you meant? If not, that's fine. I just don't get the reasoning.

[Classic Speedy]

Guys, can you PLEASE drop this anti/pro Nimoy debate? It never goes anywhere and only clutters these threads with accusations and off-topic arguments.

[Razor]

Fine. Pulling out of the debate now.

[Conan-san]

I'll accept apologies from people who said I was wrong.Boi, your going to be waiting a long time for your applogy, I suggest you don't wait.

cuz, my boi, you've got more chance of hell freezing over in your theyland than us usicans admitting wrong where right is had.

Edit; Also, in before "Stop yelling at me Crsipin!"
ah, the blooper roll for Noein was something else.

[veemonjosh]

I'll accept apologies from people who said I was wrong.

I already apologized a year ago. :sweat:

[Conan-san]

I already apologized a year ago. :sweat:Thanks a lot, now they are going to win.

[Ducard]

Yep, I like the voices.

[Master Toon]

I thought Digimon Savers was next in line. I've been out of the anime loop for a while.

[Burgundy Ranger]

This IS the U.S.-adapted version of Savers.

[veemonjosh]

Thanks a lot, now they are going to win.

They? Who's they?

Honestly, I'm expecting this dub to be made of pure fail, and the majority of you will still praise it.

Seriously, I don't get how most of you are like "Masaru changed to Marcus isn't that big of a deal, and these clearly bad voices aren't a big deal either".

Ok, so, going by that logic, frequent flyer mile jokes weren't that big of a deal.

Pig jokes weren't that big of a deal.

Hacking apart an episode based on cthulu wasn't that big of a deal.

Making Joe into a total wuss wasn't that big of a deal.

Mimi becoming a COMPLETE OPPOSITE of her original personality wasn't that big of a deal.

Screwing up Davis wasn't that big of a deal.

I could just go on and on about how bad past Digimon dubs were, and how this one will be no different.

[Tay the Cat]

They? Who's they?

Honestly, I'm expecting this dub to be made of pure fail, and the majority of you will still praise it.

Seriously, I don't get how most of you are like "Masaru changed to Marcus isn't that big of a deal, and these clearly bad voices aren't a big deal either".

Ok, so, going by that logic, frequent flyer mile jokes weren't that big of a deal.

Pig jokes weren't that big of a deal.

Hacking apart an episode based on cthulu wasn't that big of a deal.

Making Joe into a total wuss wasn't that big of a deal.

Mimi becoming a COMPLETE OPPOSITE of her original personality wasn't that big of a deal.

Screwing up Davis wasn't that big of a deal.

I could just go on and on about how bad past Digimon dubs were, and how this one will be no different.
In most of those cases, the changes were for the better.

But in all seriousness, this whole debate is pointless and stupid. It's nothing but a huge circle that will never end no matter what. I, for one, am done debating this.

[Master Toon]

This IS the U.S.-adapted version of Savers.

*Burgundy Ranger puts dunce cap on Master Toon*

[KuwabaraTheMan]

In most of those cases, the changes were for the better.

Wait, what? Changing personalities to become silly caricatures is a good thing? Adding in stupid jokes that ruin the mood is a good thing?

I'm all for dubs, but not when they completely tarnish the spirit of the original.

[Master Toon]

Wait, what? Changing personalities to become silly caricatures is a good thing? Adding in stupid jokes that ruin the mood is a good thing?

Sometimes anime characters have this lost out-of-it look on their faces and they mumble a lot, so adding something that'll make people laugh is sometimes good.


I'm all for dubs, but not when they completely tarnish the spirit of the original.

Then just stick with the original, it's the better one, right?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Sometimes anime characters have this lost out-of-it look on their faces and they mumble a lot, so adding something that'll make people laugh is sometimes good.

Er, what? I can't think of any case in Digimon that is like what you've described.

And Japanese Digimon wasn't a comedy, but it did have funny moments. It just knew when the time for comedy was, and when the time for drama was, and it kept a good mix.


Then just stick with the original, it's the better one, right?

And I do stick with the original in this case. But as a fun of dubs, I'd like to see a faithful dub of Digimon.

Besides, everyone complains about the subbies who bash dubs and look like fools, but you know what? If not for dubs like Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, One Piece, Sailor Moon, etc, these people would be a lot fewer in numbers.

As dub fans, we should condemn dubs like these which give dubs in general a bad name.

[Conan-san]

Ok ok, it's clear that regardless of what is right and what is wrong, we can't hold this sort of conversation without some extreme bad blood coming up.

Lets just not talk about Digimon if it's going to cause this sort of nonsence, I can live with it being a black topic with the poltical stuff if this is the only level we can take the converstaion.

Of course, that would meen no talk backs, but then again, them being filled with "BAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" in regards to the dub and whatever realy doesn't sound like a fun time for anyone actauly trying to read a talk back.

I elect to put Digmon on the topic black list.

[Rolling Cloud]

that attitude is gonna get digimon talk banned, and that would suck. :sad:

[Conan-san]

that attitude is gonna get digimon talk banned, and that would suck. :sad:It'd be a pain I'd endure to ensure that this sort of nonsence doesn't beseach any thread again.

[Gokou Ruri]

I personally preferred Sailor Moon's and Digimon (first series)'s dub to the original. I liked the English VA's more and the script felt more natural and less... "Japanese-y/stiff" like subs usually do.

[Mr. Ralph]

i think we all just need to respect each other's opinions, regardless of whether or not we agree with them. i've only watched the dubs and in my opinion the dubs are fine and i'm sure this one will also be good. however i am not going to argue this point because arguing about a cartoon is just a waste of time.

[Conan-san]

But here's the thing, we're not, because one guy is adiment he's right and seeks to be right regardless of wether or not his argument is right and will snipe at any little thing at 100 yards.

[Ducard]

I don't suppose it would help to set aside a separate thread for ranting? Or something. I would hate to miss out on regular discussion on the new show.

[Burgundy Ranger]

The grading curve that this -- or any other adaptation of any other program from a foreign land -- will be graded on has nothing to do with loyalty to the original.

You know what, I like the originals more than the dubs as well. But I DON'T -- not in any way, shape or form -- want Data Squad to be a word-for-word, name-for-name English copy of what I've already seen and am in the process of seeing from Savers. It's NOT supposed to be the same.

Data Squad is for an audience that AIN'T me and it would be wrong to want them to make it as if it were for me.

Duplication does me no favor.

[Conan-san]

Aye, if the thing is voiced and edited properly, I'll have no qualms with it.

[FightingDreamer]

I'll agree with KTM on one thing: Flynn and Freeman ain't good judging by those clips. Otherwise, I'll give this dub a chance for two reasons: 1. I haven't seen the original, and I don't plan on seeking it out unless this dub makes my ears bleed and 2. I liked the Tamers dub and aspects of 01 and 02's dubs, mostly because I haven't seen the originals and have no desire to seek them out. That is all; I refuse to get into another one of these circling Digimon dub debates.

[Conan-san]

That is all; I refuse to get into another one of these circling Digimon dub debates. I thought it was more akin to a deadlock.

[Kury Wagner]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IjFBx53tM68That sounds so horrible. How can anyone listen to that and be excited? It's twitch-worthy.



You know what, I like the originals more than the dubs as well. But I DON'T -- not in any way, shape or form -- want Data Squad to be a word-for-word, name-for-name English copy of what I've already seen and am in the process of seeing from Savers. It's NOT supposed to be the same.
Pardon? The act of dubbing is simply for translation purposes. It's not a remake of a show. That kind of mindset is hilarious, because of how absurdly off-base it is. If you want to know a different take on a show, read fanfiction or something. I prefer faithful, correct dubs.

[PC!]

And thus, another Digimon topic goes down the tubes. Can't we have ONE topic where fans of the dub can enjoy discussion without having to defend it from people who hate every aspect of the American version? Even ONE?

We should seriously consider having a "Digimon dub rant" thread so we can keep all the dub negativity from appearing in every Digimon topic in existence.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

And thus, another Digimon topic goes down the tubes. Can't we have ONE topic where fans of the dub can enjoy discussion without having to defend it from people who hate every aspect of the American version? Even ONE?

You know, maybe if the hackdub fans didn't get so enraged when those of us who try to raise a different opinion. The key to a message board is discussion. That includes people who have different opinions.

Not once have I or anyone else attacked someone for liking the dub.

In fact, if you look back through every thread that became like this, every time, without fail, it was dub fans starting things.

Now, rather than devolving this into a 'he said, she said' thread, how about we all get back to discussing the news and previews of the Digimon Savers hackdub, mkay?

We're all friends here, right?

[Conan-san]

Concidering your a member of they, no.

[Rolling Cloud]

Concidering your a member of they, no.

That's biased. =/

[PC!]

Anyway...

Digimon World Data Squad is shipping today for PS2. If you want to hear all the dub voices before the show airs, pick it up.

[Ducard]

I want to hear more out of Brian Beacock. He was wonderful as Takato, and he has a good range- I didn't find out until long after Frontier ended that he played Bokomon. Never would have guessed it.

[Burgundy Ranger]

The act of dubbing is simply for translation purposes.That's just not accurate and somewhat naive.

If you're talking Adult Swim or Miguzi or some other older-skewing block, you'll see much more loyal translations. And that's good.

But when doing a show for Jetix, 4Kids, Kids WB, or any other programming block aimed at kids no older than 12, a simple translation won't get on the air. There's this mis-guided belief that the U.S. TV-watching kid can't deal with or won't understand everything that's included in the original.

So much so that they'd turn off a show if every character had a Japanese-sounding name.

And that's bunk because the kids I know who are that age are better than that.

The bottom line of this whole problem is that the TV people who are supposed to know what should / shouldn't be in a program such as this are usually the ones furthest from being right.

[Razor]

It's really really easy to just accuse the other side of just wanting to start stuff. If this really is a discussion, then we should be open to debate. Nevertheless, we do get deadlocked for reasons other than simple antagonism, and we should try to avoid it in the future.

[lilerro]

I dont like the promos jetix have been showing for digimon data squad, I mean me comparing fox kids old digimon promos to jetix, well jetix seems like they dont care about digimon that much. I mean watch those.

http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/1101/

http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/1108/

[BCVM22]

I dont like the promos jetix have been showing for digimon data squad, I mean me comparing fox kids old digimon promos to jetix, well jetix seems like they dont care about digimon that much. I mean watch those.

How exactly can you tell whether a network "cares" about a property based solely on some :15/:30 promos?

[lilerro]

How exactly can you tell whether a network "cares" about a property based solely on some :15/:30 promos?
because, when I saw those promos jetix seems like they didn't put much effort into making the show look appealing at all, the commercial looked cheap and look like they didn't care about the show at all, and it took all this time for the commercial to come to jetix anyway, they shouldve been showing promos like a month ago.

[PC!]

Let's face it, Fox Kids made some of the best promos for their shows. It's hard to beat them.

Really, I thought Disney made some pretty cool-looking commercials for Digimon before Digimon went Jetix. Their current promos aren't bad, but nothing compared to the awesome promos FK could crank out.

[PC!]

Saw the promo mentioning Marcus by name, as well as hearing GeoGreymon's voice.

All I can say is, from what I hear, Brian Beacock does not make a good GeoGreymon. We'll see how it is in the show though.

[BCVM22]

because, when I saw those promos jetix seems like they didn't put much effort into making the show look appealing at all, the commercial looked cheap and look like they didn't care about the show at all, and it took all this time for the commercial to come to jetix anyway, they shouldve been showing promos like a month ago.

But the show doesn't premiere until next month. No cable network advertises 2 months early. None of them. To be honest, this seems like a nitpick. We already know the timeslots and airdates Toon Disney/Jetix intends to use for the series, the series is already dubbed, do the promos really have any bearing on the show itself?

Also, why are random words of your post green?

[Rolling Cloud]

All I can say is, from what I hear, Brian Beacock does not make a good GeoGreymon. We'll see how it is in the show though.

I need to see that promo, I hope he's not using his Yumichika voice. (he's from Bleach).

[PC!]

Actually, I semi-take it back. They just aired it again, and he sounds better than I originally thought. I'm so used to Lindsay's Greymon, so it's definitely jarring to hear him with a different voice, particularly with Beacock's.

[Yash]

But when doing a show for Jetix, 4Kids, Kids WB, or any other programming block aimed at kids no older than 12, a simple translation won't get on the air. There's this mis-guided belief that the U.S. TV-watching kid can't deal with or won't understand everything that's included in the original.
Come on, even 4Kids is starting to do things right again. Dinosaur King is being dubbed very well. Kids WB doesn't even air anime anymore because everything they've shown after Yu-Gi-Oh was a colossal failure.

In essence, the only new series that's really getting jobbed is this one.

[Tay the Cat]

Dinosaur King is being dubbed very well.
That's because there's nothing to edit in the first place.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

That's because there's nothing to edit in the first place.

And what's there to edit in Digimon Savers?

A very small bit of nudity later on, and really nothing else that's worthy of being edited.

We're not talking about a show with lots of blood and drinking here.

[Burgundy Ranger]

But when doing a show for Jetix, 4Kids, Kids WB, or any other programming block aimed at kids no older than 12, a simple translation won't get on the air. There's this mis-guided belief that the U.S. TV-watching kid can't deal with or won't understand everything that's included in the original.In essence, the only new series that's really getting jobbed is this one.Because Jetix/Disney is the only ones who still subscribe to the mis-guided belief.

And alas, we get this.

But they foot the bill, so they get what they want.

[Razor]

When did editting/censoring come into this? We have no idea if any of that's happening yet.

[Yash]

That's because there's nothing to edit in the first place.
Editing has nothing to do with it. Some of the biggest hack jobs (One Piece, Card Captor Sakura, etc.) are known as such because of how utterly pointless the majority of edits are.


When did editting/censoring come into this? We have no idea if any of that's happening yet.
It's pretty inevitable, isn't it?

[Razor]

Yes, but the degree or nature of those edits isn't known yet.



Editing has nothing to do with it. Some of the biggest hack jobs (One Piece, Card Captor Sakura, etc.) are known as such because of how utterly pointless the majority of edits are.



... Edits have nothing to do with it, but edits are the problem? what?

[Conan-san]

I dont like the promos jetix have been showing for digimon data squad, I mean me comparing fox kids old digimon promos to jetix, well jetix seems like they dont care about digimon that much. I mean watch those.

http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/1101/

http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/1108/Yeah, but FK knew full well what they were geting with Tamers and they played up to it nicely.

Plus, FK and Jetix is Apples and Oranges terrorty.

[TheFZAtUGSOnline]

i have an idea, how about we do a comparision list of the edits on every episode, so that way, we will see what got the axe or what got tweaked in said episode, how does that work out for you PC2?

[PC!]

That's really not my call. This topic is for talking about the dub before it premieres. Whoever wants to do edit lists for episodes can probably do so in their respective talkback threads. Me, I don't care enough about edits to do them, so...

[Rocketboy]

*Raises hand.* I'll do it.

[Ducard]

Thanks to the magic of Youtube, clips from the video game's dubbing are online:

http://youtube.com/user/datai8

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Thanks to the magic of Youtube, clips from the video game's dubbing are online:

http://youtube.com/user/datai8

Oh sweet Yggdrasil.

Masaru sounds as bad as in the promo. Completely unfitting voice for him. Far too whiny.

Tohma sounds even worse than before. His voice has NO edge at all.

Yoshino sounds too young and bratty. She's 18, not 12.

Oh, Agumon. What did they do to you? *vomits* Way too lame a voice for him.

Gaomon...ewwwww. He's supposed to sound tough, not like a lost boy.

Satsuma..... I was all for the casting of Satsuma. I even thought he'd be the highlight of the dub...but that voice...just no. Far too cardboard and fake.

Kudamon...wtf? The voice is far too deep for him. Seriously, who made these casting calls? Oh wait....Jeff Nimoy...

I guess Kurosaki and Shirokawa sound alright, though. On the plus side...:\

[Captain Zechs]

Wow. These voices are TERRIBLE. They sound like little kids, wtf? The digimon sound just as bad.

[Master Toon]

Oh sweet Yggdrasil.

Masaru sounds as bad as in the promo. Completely unfitting voice for him. Far too whiny.

Tohma sounds even worse than before. His voice has NO edge at all.

Yoshino sounds too young and bratty. She's 18, not 12.

Oh, Agumon. What did they do to you? *vomits* Way too lame a voice for him.

Gaomon...ewwwww. He's supposed to sound tough, not like a lost boy.

Satsuma..... I was all for the casting of Satsuma. I even thought he'd be the highlight of the dub...but that voice...just no. Far too cardboard and fake.

Kudamon...wtf? The voice is far too deep for him. Seriously, who made these casting calls? Oh wait....Jeff Nimoy...

I guess Kurosaki and Shirokawa sound alright, though. On the plus side...:\

:confused:

[Rocketboy]

Urg...They're terrible.

On an unrelated note, Masaru seems like a slave driver in that first video.

"I want to run."
"THAT WOULD BE A WASTE! IS THAT ALL YOU'VE GOT?!"
"O...K...."*Powers up.*

[Razor]

Just for the record, Gaomon's actor in those videos won't be playing him in the series.

I like everyone fine, though Marcus is played a bit too subdued and there's a minor problem with woodness from everyone - but when they have him yelling and cutting loose he fits a helluva lot more. Kudamon's Japanese voice is deep (he's basically a deep voiced woman in Japan). It's nice how... sagely he seems here, considering his later role.

Game voice acting doesn't usually strike me as very strong in general, so I imagine it'll improve a fair bit when it makes it to screen. Always does, usually.


On an unrelated note, Masaru seems like a slave driver in that first video.

You are familiar with Masaru/Marcus's character, aren't you?

[Rocketboy]

Yeah, but Masaru always cared about Agumon. I don't remember him making Agumon fight when he didn't want to.

And who does Gaomon in the game?

[Razor]

Dan Lorge.

This is still a very Masaru-esque line. He's not coddling and caring to Agumon, he spurrs him on with commands and shouts, not words of comfort.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Just for the record, Gaomon's actor in those videos won't be playing him in the series.

That's good, at the very least.


Kudamon's Japanese voice is deep (he's basically a deep voiced woman in Japan). It's nice how... sagely he seems here, considering his later role.Kudamon's Japanese voice isn't deep like this, though. It's a forceful voice, and it has a 'deep' quality to it, but it also has a better tough.

This voice doesn't really fit him.


Game voice acting doesn't usually strike me as very strong in general, so I imagine it'll improve a fair bit when it makes it to screen. Always does, usually.Actually, the opposite is true. Anime voice actors prefer voicing the game cut scenes because they can work more naturally, and typically their voices sound even better in the games, due to not having to worry about lip flaps.

Hell, even some 4Kids OP voices sounded better in the video games.

If the voices are this bad now, they'll be atrocious in the actual show.

[Razor]

I understand they prefer it, but most games I see - especially ones where it doesn't strike me as them having an effort to sound like the characters are carrying on a conversation, just reading individual lines - have acting that ends up sounding a fair bit stilted.

This is a personal observation, mind you. So, whatever. Let's not start a fight about this too, I'm just saying my individual peace.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Certainly it's a matter of personal preference. My point was merely that it allows their voices to be more natural. So if they don't sound great here, I can't imagine them sounding better when they have additional constraints.

But I guess we'll see in a couple of weeks.

[Razor]

I don't really thing it sounds at all natural. They can believe what they want, I'm going by what I hear versus what I've gotten out of actual anime performances.

Opinions will be varied when it premieres, undoubtedly. We won't "see" much of anything, beyond individual assessments.

EDIT - ... one voice I hope they depart from is Falcomon. It's not important that he sound like a kid, really, and his voice doesn't really suit his evolved forms much at all.

[PC!]

Ooh, boy, voices.

Marcus- WAY too high-pitched. Lower it and make it a little gruffer.

Agumon- Not bad, but sounds far too much like Takato. Give him a gruff, reptilian edge.

GeoGreymon- Man, Beacock does NOT make a good GeoGreymon. Come to think of it, Beacock doesn't really make a good tough character at all. Not much more to add.

Yoshino- Just about as I expected. Not much of a fan of Colleen for Yoshino, but I can tell I'll get used to it quickly.

Sampson- Perfect.

Kudamon- Sounds good. Regal was a good choice. Nice and smooth.

Lalamon- Disgustingly cute, but not as annoying as the Japanese version.

Thomas- Very good choice. No complaints here.

Gao(ga)mon- Didn't hear enough to really formulate an opinion.

All in all, pretty good, but Flynn and Beacock definitely could use some improvement on their respective characters. A few tweaks and I'm sure they'd sound fine.

[NewcomerDC]

Why does Masaru sound like his voice actor wasn't putting enough emphasis in his "YEAAAHH!!" line in one of the video clips? The voice of Masaru and Gaomon aren't the voices that I expected for the dub.

[Mr. Ralph]

i guess there must be something wrong with me because i liked all the voices.

[Master Toon]

i guess there must be something wrong with me because i liked all the voices.

There's nothing wrong with you, the voices are fine.

[Conan-san]

This could work, Thomas and Yoshino seem to have switch ages in terms of tone though.

Marcus, well, his voice was downright oddball in the JP version so...

Though the visuals of the humans in that game look sub Skies of Arcadia quality.

[PC!]

Digimon Data Squad ads have begun running in several print publications, including Nintendo Power. To my knowledge, this marks the first time the anime series has ever been fully promoted in a magazine ad.

[Razor]

There's a new promo, this one focusing mostly on Thomas and Gaomon.

It's pretty good.

[Yash]

Digimon Data Squad ads have begun running in several print publications, including Nintendo Power. To my knowledge, this marks the first time the anime series has ever been fully promoted in a magazine ad.
Naruto was advertised in several magazines, so it's not the first, but it is more than I had expected.

[bigddan11]

I've been watching the Japanesse RAw and subs recently, and I was surprised to find that RizeGreymon is not a change. As we all kno, they show the name in Japanesse and English when a Digimon evolves (digivolves), and the English spelling listed behind GeoGreymon as he evolves has always been RizeGreymon. The subs had it wrong in saying it was RiseGreymon, so that's technically not a change.

For those commenting on Gaomon's voice, remember that the voice on the video game is not the same voice that will be on the TV series.

[PC!]

Naruto was advertised in several magazines, so it's not the first, but it is more than I had expected.

I mean specifically the Digimon anime, actually. ^_^

Anyway, if you want to see the Thomas promo, you can check it out here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBavl-lrpRU) For three words, Gaomon sounds much better than Lorge's rendition.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I mean specifically the Digimon anime, actually. ^_^

Anyway, if you want to see the Thomas promo, you can check it out here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBavl-lrpRU) For three words, Gaomon sounds much better than Lorge's rendition.

Gaomon's voice sounds....okay, I guess.

Much better than Tohma's voice, which would fit Satsuma a lot better, honestly.

[RomanMack]

You know... That announcer for the commercials is REALLY annoying sounding. He makes the promos sound lame because... he has a lame announcing voice. XD

[Mr. Ralph]

You know... That announcer for the commercials is REALLY annoying sounding. He makes the promos sound lame because... he has a lame announcing voice. XD

isn't he the guy who voiced davis in digimon 02? and rock lee in naruto?

but yeah his voice as the jetix announcer is really lame.

[Tay the Cat]

isn't he the guy who voiced davis in digimon 02? and rock lee in naruto?

Yes to the first one. He's not Rock Lee, though.

[Ducard]

Yes to the first one. He's not Rock Lee, though.

He is, actually. Brian Donovan plays both roles.

[Tay the Cat]

Oops, I got my VA's mixed up :sweat:

[Ducard]

There's a Marcus promo with some of Geogreymon's voicework up at Jetix.tv. I think it's new.

[PC!]

All available promos added.

[lilerro]

how come jetix has not updated there digimon website yet, I prove my point again as last time jetix does not care....

[Razor]

I saw it on Jetix a few minutes ago... they're now running a Yoshi promo.

[PC!]

There are quite a few more clips from Digimon World Data Squad up on YouTube, including clips of Keenan and Falcomon.

I expected Keenan to sound a lot like the other characters Siddal plays, but she does a good job differentiating her from Tommy, Koromon, and the like.

Falcomon definitely has a Hawkmon vibe, but after hearing him with such a cute little boy voice, it's really jarring hearing him sound like a snooty old guy. I'll have to hear more of it.

Yatagaramon sounds like Raidramon.

Barbamon is played by Paul St. Peter, and Kusaburo sounds like Brad McDonald. Yuma is Michelle Ruff. I still can't place Kagura's voice.

Not sure who plays Lilithmon, but she makes her sound like a witch. Not particularly fitting, IMHO.

Melodee can't pull off a cute sounding bird to save her life.

[BCVM22]

how come jetix has not updated there digimon website yet, I prove my point again as last time jetix does not care....

Programming and web content are separate departments at Jetix/Toon Disney and every other network, I'd imagine. What does it prove, exactly?

[PC!]

Caught the Yoshino commercial. Lilamon, as expected, sounds just like Lilymon.

[Razor]

Yuma is Michelle Ruff. I still can't place Kagura's voice.

His voice actor is new, I think.

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Eh, I figured since we're still getting new information, we can keep this topic going. The latest new info on voices and dub names have been added in the first post.

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There's some new info, which I posted on the Data Squad LJ comm: http://community.livejournal.com/digidatasquad/1610.html#cutid1

Chief Hashima is going to be named Hashima in the dub, and be played by Doug Stone.

Hayase Tsubasa will be called Hayase Harris in the US version, and be played by Digimon veteran Tom Fahn.

Neon will still be known as Neon (his real name unknown), and be played by "fangirl favorite" Yuri Lowenthal.

The baker known as Shitori will be played by Kirk Thornton, and his son, Koichirou, will be called Conner and be played by another member of the Fahn family, Jonathan Fahn.

Vilemon from the same episode is to be played by Steve Kramer, and the three DemiDevimon will be played by Jeff Nimoy and the Fahn brothers.

Credit: www.thedigiport.com (http://forums.toonzone.net/www.thedigiport.com), http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=103325446&MyToken=bbd0bccc-1f44-4502-89ed-06cba4eb4d98

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Hayase Harris? Yuck. If they're going to keep half of his name Japanese, why not keep the other half? I don't mind dub names, but I wish they'd be a little more consistent. Half the characters have Japanese names and half of them English. It's kind of jarring.

It's great to have Steve Kramer back in Digimon again. He was totally underused. It's awesome to have Johnathan Fahn back, too; haven't heard from him since 02.

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That's not really any different from earlier seasons, really.