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Harvey Two Face
09-01-2007, 04:42 AM
Hey guys I was just curious to know what in the whole DCAU is/was the biggest and baddest super weapon?

Cypher Rage
09-01-2007, 08:29 AM
I havent seen every DCAU episodes, so I'd say for the DCAU it's the The Dark Heart or Amazo. (If you consider him a weapon)

batsy2
09-01-2007, 08:40 AM
Annhilator

JRP82190
09-01-2007, 02:37 PM
Doomsday

Alph
09-01-2007, 11:37 PM
Not counting sentient beings, I'd say the weapon from War World. It could destroy a planet.

Donomark
09-02-2007, 01:28 AM
Lex Luthor in possesion of Hawkgirl's Nth Metal Mace.

Bones Justice
09-02-2007, 08:08 AM
The planet-destroyer in War Worldis a good one. But Green Lantern's ring apparently has the potential to do the same thing (In Blackest Night) and is a lot more portable.

I'm not sure if they count as weapons but Amazo, Brainiac, the Phantom-Zone projector, and Vandall Savage's time machine are all very lethal.

I think the ultimate weapon in the DCAU, though, would be the Anti-Life Equation.

90'sCartoonMan
09-02-2007, 10:28 PM
I like both the Green Lantern power ring and Stargirl's cosmic staff, even if neither of them are that big.

That doohickey Luthor used in "A Better World" was pretty good since it managed to block the powers of 4 different species. I wonder how that thing would do against someone from New Genesis or Apokolips.

Bones Justice
09-02-2007, 11:05 PM
I like both the Green Lantern power ring and Stargirl's cosmic staff, even if neither of them are that big.

What does Stargirl's cosmic staff do? I seem to recall that it allows her to fly and shoot energy beams but nothing else. Is it really that powerful?



That doohickey Luthor used in "A Better World" was pretty good since it managed to block the powers of 4 different species. I wonder how that thing would do against someone from New Genesis or Apokolips.

I forgot about that one, good call. That weapon must work on the target's brain somehow, since it could even cancel Green Lantern's power.

As I recall, Luthor said that Superman had that weapon now. Maybe they should have used it on Doomsday instead of sending him to the Phantom Zone. Of course, Doomsday would have a really hard time adjusting to "normal" life in society after his powers were removed. Could you imagine seeing his mug working the drive-thru at the local burger joint? Yikes. :eek:

Harvey Two Face
09-03-2007, 04:57 AM
Thanks guys for that.

Caswin
09-03-2007, 03:53 PM
I think the ultimate weapon in the DCAU, though, would be the Anti-Life Equation.That's what I was thinking.

90'sCartoonMan
09-03-2007, 07:25 PM
What does Stargirl's cosmic staff do? I seem to recall that it allows her to fly and shoot energy beams but nothing else. Is it really that powerful?

From what I've seen of it in the comics, it can manipulate energy, basically. I think that means it can absorb it and use it to aid the wielder of the staff. If someone used it to its full potential, that would make them pretty powerful.


As I recall, Luthor said that Superman had that weapon now. Maybe they should have used it on Doomsday instead of sending him to the Phantom Zone. Of course, Doomsday would have a really hard time adjusting to "normal" life in society after his powers were removed. Could you imagine seeing his mug working the drive-thru at the local burger joint? Yikes. :eek:


Since Doomsday is made from Kryptonian DNA, shouldn't it be kind of easy to cancel out his power? Unless they messed with it so much Doomsday doesn't have the same power limitations that Superman has.

Bones Justice
09-04-2007, 01:39 AM
That's what I was thinking.

Yeah, I kind of think that if Darkseid wants it, the Anti-Life Equation must be the ultimate weapon. He seems to already own all of the other nasty weapons that exist, if they are worth having. I have a feeling that the planet-destroyer from War World must not be capable of destroying New Genesis or he would have done that already.


Since Doomsday is made from Kryptonian DNA, shouldn't it be kind of easy to cancel out his power? Unless they messed with it so much Doomsday doesn't have the same power limitations that Superman has.

Dunno, I didn't major in Biology. :D But it just seems to me that Luthor's ray-gun should be capable of cancelling Doomday's powers. Did they ever say if the effects were permanent? Or at least, irreversible? Anyways, I get the feeling that it was too powerful of a story-device so they never used it again.

Aizen
09-04-2007, 07:04 PM
Eh, we don't know too much about the anti-life equation. I would say Annihilator. If you consider AMAZO a weapon then him.

b.t.
09-04-2007, 09:24 PM
lex/flash's unwashed hands

Antiyonder
09-04-2007, 09:28 PM
lex/flash's unwashed hands

To quote Cleveland Brown:

That's nasty.

The Penguin
09-05-2007, 12:02 AM
To quote Cleveland Brown:No, it's evil.

Toddman
09-05-2007, 01:41 AM
Eww, just think, Tala um...."played Scrabble".... with him shortly after that. Yeesh.

Toddman

Wonderwall
09-05-2007, 03:30 AM
No love for the Boom Tube

BCVM22
09-05-2007, 03:43 AM
No love for the Boom Tube

Boom Tubes aren't weapons, though, just a means of rapid interstellar travel.

JAG
09-05-2007, 08:37 PM
While it's far from the most powerful, Vandal Savage's asteroid gun was one of my favorites. It wasn't universe-conquering material, but it could certainly make a good-sized dent in any city he decided to aim it at. "A shame, really. I rather enjoyed Paris..."

As for which one was most powerful, I'd say AMAZO wins that award hands-down. He could copy any power/technology just by looking at it, and by The Return, he could take the best shots of the entire JLU without blinking. Any weaknesses he might have are going to be tough to exploit, seeing as he can read your mind.

The only weapons that could even come close to equalling AMAZO would be The Flame of Pytar in the hands of somebody like Luthor, and possibly the Anti-Life Equation.

Bones Justice
09-10-2007, 06:12 AM
While it's far from the most powerful, Vandal Savage's asteroid gun was one of my favorites. It wasn't universe-conquering material, but it could certainly make a good-sized dent in any city he decided to aim it at. "A shame, really. I rather enjoyed Paris..."

As for which one was most powerful, I'd say AMAZO wins that award hands-down. He could copy any power/technology just by looking at it, and by The Return, he could take the best shots of the entire JLU without blinking. Any weaknesses he might have are going to be tough to exploit, seeing as he can read your mind.

The only weapons that could even come close to equalling AMAZO would be The Flame of Pytar in the hands of somebody like Luthor, and possibly the Anti-Life Equation.

The asteroid gun was cool, wasn't it? I wonder how the episode could have played out if not for the censors. Maybe they could have had Vandall taking out a few cities before the League could put a stop to him. :evil:

Didn't Amazo have another weakness in Wake the Dead? I seem to recall something but I don't have the DVD where I'm at right now. Something about it caused Amazo to head to deep space or something.

Caswin
09-10-2007, 12:35 PM
The asteroid gun was cool, wasn't it? I wonder how the episode could have played out if not for the censors. Maybe they could have had Vandall taking out a few cities before the League could put a stop to him. :evil:Now, there's something to be said for actually stopping the villain before they can kill thousands of people. Otherwise it just gets depressing.

Didn't Amazo have another weakness in Wake the Dead? I seem to recall something but I don't have the DVD where I'm at right now. Something about it caused Amazo to head to deep space or something.He couldn't harm Solomon Grundy due to the Chaos Magic that had awakened him. It's a very specific weakness that I doubt many share, although "Destroyer" Darkseid could be an exception.

Aizen
09-10-2007, 07:45 PM
He couldn't harm Solomon Grundy due to the Chaos Magic that had awakened him. It's a very specific weakness that I doubt many share, although "Destroyer" Darkseid could be an exception.
Why Darkseid? I know he's all strong and all, but nothing compared to AMAZO.

Bones Justice
09-11-2007, 12:57 AM
Now, there's something to be said for actually stopping the villain before they can kill thousands of people. Otherwise it just gets depressing.

True. Though would the worst villains in history have been remembered if they had been stopped before they ever killed anyone?

The asteroid gun was destroyed by vigilantes (not the authorities) so there's little evidence against him (the ground operations were disguised as a peaceful operation). His other two plans were foiled in such a way as to never have occurred. Fortunately, he was turned over to a sovereign country that can do pretty much what-ever they want despite the lack of evidence against him; but he still turned up yet again later.



He couldn't harm Solomon Grundy due to the Chaos Magic that had awakened him. It's a very specific weakness that I doubt many share, although "Destroyer" Darkseid could be an exception.

So did that hurt Amazo, though, or did he just leave for some other reason? I really can't remember.

What about magic in general? Magic users seem capable of just about anything.


Why Darkseid? I know he's all strong and all, but nothing compared to AMAZO.

I think he means that Darkseid was also infused with magic after his resurrection. Lex Luthor used a combination of science and magic to revive him.

Caswin
09-11-2007, 09:34 AM
Fortunately, he was turned over to a sovereign country that can do pretty much what-ever they want despite the lack of evidence against himHeh. Funny how that works.

So did that hurt Amazo, though, or did he just leave for some other reason? I really can't remember.Grundy was not only invincible but actually feeding off of his power somehow, forcing him to leave.

I think he means that Darkseid was also infused with magic after his resurrection. Lex Luthor used a combination of science and magic to revive him.Aye. I still wish they'd fought, I've got it all planned out...

Aizen
09-11-2007, 05:15 PM
Aye. I still wish they'd fought, I've got it all planned out...
Ah man...if AMAZO is the loser, that would be embarrassing...

Caswin
09-12-2007, 12:56 PM
Ah man...if AMAZO is the loser, that would be embarrassing...Alright alright alright, I've totally got it (and then I'll stop drifting).

AMAZO finally comes back from outer space. He's found some way past the Chaos Magic thing. He can beat Solomon Grundy without making him stronger. But now he faces Darkseid. An epic battle ensues (this is probably on New Genesis), with the Chaos Magic still working in Darkseid's favor. AMAZO is being worn down; he doesn't have the tools to beat him, but of course, he's been there before - so, mid-dramatic-face-to-face grapple, for the first time in a long time, he pulls the glowing-eyes power-copying trick, probably hoping to get the Omega Beams in his arsenal.
He is surprised, then, to get the Omega Beams fired straight into his power-receiving face. KABOOM! Fight over.

Aizen
09-14-2007, 11:46 PM
Alright alright alright, I've totally got it (and then I'll stop drifting).

AMAZO finally comes back from outer space. He's found some way past the Chaos Magic thing. He can beat Solomon Grundy without making him stronger. But now he faces Darkseid. An epic battle ensues (this is probably on New Genesis), with the Chaos Magic still working in Darkseid's favor. AMAZO is being worn down; he doesn't have the tools to beat him, but of course, he's been there before - so, mid-dramatic-face-to-face grapple, for the first time in a long time, he pulls the glowing-eyes power-copying trick, probably hoping to get the Omega Beams in his arsenal.
He is surprised, then, to get the Omega Beams fired straight into his power-receiving face. KABOOM! Fight over.
Bravo, Bravo...so...who won and who lost? :confused:...:sweat:

Caswin
09-14-2007, 11:56 PM
Bravo, Bravo...so...who won and who lost? :confused:...:sweat:Darkseid won, AMAZO went boom, and I just kept on dreaming that it could actually happen.

Aizen
09-15-2007, 12:03 AM
Darkseid won, AMAZO went boom, and I just kept on dreaming that it could actually happen.
Why would AMAZO go boom? You just said in your story that AMAZO learned how to defeat chaos magic...

Caswin
09-15-2007, 10:19 AM
Why would AMAZO go boom? You just said in your story that AMAZO learned how to defeat chaos magic...Darkseid has more than Chaos Magic going for him. AMAZO was confident that he could now handle a Magic-infused Grundy, not Darkseid. The Omega Beams - specifically, fired into something explicitly not resisting any kind of energy - are most definitely not Chaos Magic.

Oh, and I just watched Last Son of Krypton on In2TV. In honor of its use in "Destroyer", I nominate the Daily Planet globe.

murmur
09-18-2007, 02:41 PM
The planet-destroyer in War Worldis a good one. But Green Lantern's ring apparently has the potential to do the same thing (In Blackest Night) and is a lot more portable.Didn't the ring's beam have to hit just the right spot and cause some sort of volcanic chain reaction to actually achieve that effect? And that's assuming that the hypothetical destruction that never occurred anyway was physically possible (a reasonable assumption, since it fooled pretty much all of Oa). I don't think John can just point and shoot at the ground and blow up a planet.


I'm not sure if they count as weapons but Amazo, Brainiac, the Phantom-Zone projector, and Vandall Savage's time machine are all very lethal.

I think the ultimate weapon in the DCAU, though, would be the Anti-Life Equation.Yeah, "weapon" can be defined in so many ways...I guess the anti-life equation could fit, but then again, nobody really knows what it is.

90'sCartoonMan
09-19-2007, 07:35 PM
Didn't the ring's beam have to hit just the right spot and cause some sort of volcanic chain reaction to actually achieve that effect? And that's assuming that the hypothetical destruction that never occurred anyway was physically possible (a reasonable assumption, since it fooled pretty much all of Oa). I don't think John can just point and shoot at the ground and blow up a planet. \

He probably can't. In "The Return", that blast against AMAZO Kyle was talking about took a bunch of Green Lanterns to do, and he said it would only take out half the planet.