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Wussycat
08-29-2007, 01:01 PM
What fairy tale protagonists have been portrayed negatively in a cartoons and animated films?
Red Riding Hood is portrayed as annoying and dumb in both 2 Stupid Dogs and the Bugs Bunny short Little Red Riding Rabbit.
In Shrek the Third, Red Riding Hood is one of the villains for some unexplained reason.
In the Wonderland episode of Walter Melon, Prince Charming is portrayed as a playboy. He's done with Snow White and Cinderella, and now he wants Alice.
In Shrek 2 and Shrek the Third, Prince Charming is a villain.
In the AoStH episode Sonically Ever After, Snow White is very ugly. She could be dumb too, but I don't remember.
tb4000
08-29-2007, 01:15 PM
It's basically turning the whole concept of these good, wholesome characters on its ear. Shrek kind of made it a subtle discrimination thing, as all the human characters are sweet, nice and the epitome of what you should aspire to be, where all the creatures are deemed lower on the chain.
judyindisguise
08-29-2007, 02:39 PM
Kaa the python from The Jungle Book. While it's more an animal fable than a fairy tale, I think Kaa qualifies for this topic because while he's a good guy in the books, he's a villian in the Disney films. I've never understood why that change was made. Just because he's a snake...?
oofadoofa
08-29-2007, 02:55 PM
No mentioning of Pinnochio in Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy yet?
zoombie
08-29-2007, 02:59 PM
What about the Looney Toons reverse 3 Little Pigs cartoon, in which the wolf tells his grandson or son, what really happened, and the 3 pigs are the villains.
Kaa the python from The Jungle Book. While it's more an animal fable than a fairy tale, I think Kaa qualifies for this topic because while he's a good guy in the books, he's a villian in the Disney films. I've never understood why that change was made. Just because he's a snake...?
Maybe that had to do with the serpent in The Garden Of Eden, who tempted Eve and Adam, from the bible's old testament book of Genesis.
Sidewinder1984
08-29-2007, 03:20 PM
There's Robot Santa in Futurama. Even though he's a robot as opposed to the genuine article, it's the same concept.
Then you have the times where good historical figures have been played for laughs - Animaniacs had "Frontier Slappy" ("Daniel Boone was a big dumb jerk, yes, a stupid jerk...") and "Hercules Unwound" (which portrayed Hercules as a whinging crybaby). Time Squad was also based around this concept, though the famous figures were always rehabilitated by the end of each ep.
Wussycat
08-29-2007, 03:42 PM
Santa Claus is portrayed as an oppressive slave driver in one of the Fairly OddParents pilots.
Mad Mod 49
08-29-2007, 04:01 PM
The Disney version of Kaa kind of a double-edged sword, really. On the one hand, his departure from good guy to bad guy is kind of drastic. On the other hand, he's just so good at being bad (mainly due to Sterling Holloway's awesome voice. :evil: )
Santa Claus is portrayed as an oppressive slave driver in one of the Fairly OddParents pilots.
Techincally, Kris Kringle was shown as an opressive business mogul type, but Santa Claus was some sort of alternate personna for him when Fairy World infused him with magic on Christmas time. So Santa wasn't really portrayed negatively, Kringle was.
blazecat
08-29-2007, 05:03 PM
I'm gonna have to say Pinnochio in Billy and Mandy. He's a cannibal who wants to eats Billy's flesh.
TKnHappyNess
08-30-2007, 05:33 PM
What fairy tale protagonists have been portrayed negatively in a cartoons and animated films?
Red Riding Hood is portrayed as annoying and dumb in both 2 Stupid Dogs and the Bugs Bunny short Little Red Riding Rabbit.
In Shrek the Third, Red Riding Hood is one of the villains for some unexplained reason.
In the Wonderland episode of Walter Melon, Prince Charming is portrayed as a playboy. He's done with Snow White and Cinderella, and now he wants Alice.
In Shrek 2 and Shrek the Third, Prince Charming is a villain.
In the AoStH episode Sonically Ever After, Snow White is very ugly. She could be dumb too, but I don't remember.
For Shrek 3, my guess for Red Riding Hood being a villain is because the Wolf is a good guy. Charming being a villain is because Shrek screwed up his plans for a "happily ever after" as in marrying Fiona and ruling Far Far Away.
Elven Moon
08-30-2007, 05:51 PM
Futurama - Santa Claus (though created by mortals) is an evil robot that thinks EVERYBODY (save Zoidburg) is naughty. People hide in their houses every Christmas Eve if they want to escape his wrath. His elves are seen as the "bad/poor side of town" sort of folk.
I seem to remember a Bugs Bunny short in which the Easter Bunny manipulates Bugs into doing his job, too. It wasn't in a positive light but I don't know whether to call it negative.
Anyone00
08-30-2007, 07:13 PM
While not strictly a fairy tale it's fairly close:
Grendel Grendel Grendel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grendel_Grendel_Grendel)based on Grendel by John Gardner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grendel_%28novel%29).
Oh and Ed Liu; sorry I can't find any news on an official DVD release to cash in on the new Beowulf movie coming out.
Kazuya Prower
08-30-2007, 08:19 PM
In a Animaniacs segment featuing the Hippos, Noah from Noah's Ark was portrayed as a young, lazy careless bum.
kid rabbit
08-30-2007, 08:50 PM
first off as a christen noah is not a fairy tale charter second if you want see negatively shown fairy tale charters pick up fables in a comic book store
zoombie
08-30-2007, 08:53 PM
The Fairly Odd Parents had Merlin the magacian protrayed as a minipulator pupet master.
Anyone00
08-30-2007, 09:00 PM
The Fairly Odd Parents had Merlin the magacian protrayed as a minipulator pupet master.
Yes that's a stretch; I mean it's not like in the original story he was a guy that facilitated a rape to serve his own ends or anything.
kid rabbit
08-30-2007, 09:07 PM
it's not so much fairy tale good guys are shown negatively it" that it's uselly the reverse for the bad guys the big bad wolf is a hero (hoodwink) the wicked witch is misunderstood and the giant from jack and the beanstock is a victem
Leviathan
08-30-2007, 10:53 PM
Well, this is also a bit of a stretch, but there are Popeye cartoons where Bluto portrays Sindbad and Robinson Crusoe.
GWOtaku
08-31-2007, 10:17 AM
Robin Hood came off as pretty vain and dumb in Shrek.
Hordesman
08-31-2007, 11:33 AM
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