Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - Official Talkback

[Tanooki]

the date has arrived for one of nintendo's highly anticipated titles to arrive on the scene. with enhanced wii controls and graphics, prime 3 is looking to further improve upon the look and feel of its predecessors. if you've taken any interest in this game or the games that came before it, you already know what it's all about. exploration and shooting things dead

i plan on picking this up after work today and playing until the early hours of the morning. i'm pretty excited about it. i actually wanted to finish super metroid before this, but apparently, according to the metroid retrospective (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=194514) this game comes before hand

so, thoughts, concerns, criticisms, acclamations about the game?

[Hades]

It is not out until tomorrow, today is just the shipping date.

[Tanooki]

really? huh. well then, color me a fool. well, then i open this up for speculation

[Vermunium]

Some stores will have it today. The most notable one being the Nintendo store in the Rockafella center in New York. They're giving away free swag with the game there. Makes me wish I lived in New York just for that.

[mookie75]

Some stores will have it today. The most notable one being the Nintendo store in the Rockafella center in New York. They're giving away free swag with the game there. Makes me wish I lived in New York just for that.


I know Nintendo Power gave it a 10.0. That makes me equal parts excited and skeptical. I'm sure some would think that such a score means little when it comes from a magazine called Nintendo Power, but I've been reading it for years and I've seen them rag on plenty of games that came from the mothership.

I'll be interested to play this game either way. I enjoyed both of the previous Prime games (yes, even Prime 2 :eek: ). Of course, I'll have to get a Wii at some point before that can happen. lol

[Tanooki]

meh. i also think there was nothing wrong with prime 2

from the reviews i've been reading, it sounds like prime 3 is more of the same but with different control and updated graphics. i'm interested to see if the organic "aurora" super computer has anything to do with motherbrain, though

[Beat]

I'm more interested in how Wii controls apply to this.

[RomanMack]

They've been praising the Wii controls on this one, so looks like it's a win.

[BCVM22]

I'm more interested in how Wii controls apply to this.

By all accounts, it's more or less exactly what you'd expect. Aim with the Remote, fire with A (Beam) and D-Pad Down (Missiles), movement with the Nunchuck stick, lock-on with Z. Gesture controls are as follows:

Grapple Beam - Throwing motion with the Nunchuck when locked on to a target
Visor Change - Hold down Minus and flick the Remote up, left or right
Hyper Mode - Plus
Hop in Morph Ball - Flick the Remote up

And various context-sensitive gestures with the Remote such as, according to IGN, "to twist a lock into place, you'd pull back with the peripheral, twist left or right, and then push forward again."

All the accounts I've read say the controls are spot on, and the IR aiming via the Remote makes the GameCube controls feel clunky by comparison.

[Storm Eagle]

Some stores will have it today. The most notable one being the Nintendo store in the Rockafella center in New York. They're giving away free swag with the game there. Makes me wish I lived in New York just for that.

Hey, I live in New York, but just not close to the city. I'm already getting it from a GameStop that's just a short walk from my building. I still wonder what Nintendo World is giving away with the game though. I'd like to think it's nothing really major.

Circuit City is even guaranteeing that they'll have it as of Tuesday at 2pm. Otherwise, they'll give you a $20 gift card. There's even a Circuit City that's a short walk away from my building also.

[Demonic Raven]

Current Gamerankings.com Ratio: 93% (http://gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928517.asp)

This game is no joke. It's just what I would expect out of the Big Three of Wii...

I have it reserved, so I'll definitely have it tomorrow. Tomorrow couldn't come soon enough.

[Strollymonster]

Current Gamerankings.com Ratio: 93% (http://gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928517.asp)

This game is no joke. It's just what I would expect out of the Big Three of Wii...

I have it reserved, so I'll definitely have it tomorrow. Tomorrow couldn't come soon enough.

To be fair, one of the reviews in Nintendo Power's 10/10, which I feel is a bit of a statistical outlier (especially when there are less than 5 reviews so far).

I, too, will be picking this up tomorrow, and I'll be glad to get started. I don't think it'll be greatness on the level of Bioshock, but I'm sure that it'll be a worthy successor to the Metroid series.

Plus, I'll finally be doing something other than playing Okami or watching MST3K via my Wii.

[Artimus Gigan]

From what I gather from reading the reviews seems they made alot of the nessicery changes and a few interesting ones

Scanning isn't a tedious or annoying poke quest and has been revised to be easier to accomplish

Boss battles are fun but the game tends to hold your hand as you go thru them(but there is no Spidertrack Guardian-esque annoying bossbattles)

Shooting aspects are streamlined and are very smooth as you go thru the game

Level design is more streamlined so you don't wind up getting lost or stuck in another area and not realising you're supposed to access it later(I.e. MP1) but is also more open in terms of movement and you have a better sense of progression and where to go, the art direction also has been upped severely.

Enemies die better

stuff blows up better

Powerups and upgrades are not just recolored/renamed/.5 versions of upgrades from a previous installment for the most part

[Scirel]

Boss battles are fun but the game tends to hold your hand as you go thru them(but there is no Spidertrack Guardian-esque annoying bossbattles)

oooh that guy was soo evil. I`m glad there's nothing like him here. a minor boss 1/3 through the game shouldn`t be almost as hard as the last.

[Squall]

Plus, I'll finally be doing something other than playing Okami or watching MST3K via my Wii.

Wait a sec... watching MST3K via your Wii? Is there a way you can get a Wii to play DVDs, or are you putting the episodes on the flash drive or something?

[Strollymonster]

Wait a sec... watching MST3K via your Wii? Is there a way you can get a Wii to play DVDs, or are you putting the episodes on the flash drive or something?

There are certain places that you can find them on the internet, which Senator Ted Stevens effectively described as a series of tubes.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I don't believe that I have sufficient springs to type further. Curse you, Coily!

[Dogbert]

Is there a way you can get a Wii to play DVDs...?Yes, it involves a mod chip and burning a loading disc, but it is possible. The legality of mod chips is in question right now (the law against them is on the books, but hasn't been appealed by anyone yet, so it's constitutionality isn't certain yet), so that's as much as I'll share here (actually, it's all I know on that subject anyway).

[Tanooki]

mod note

yeah, enough piracy talk. back on subject, k?

[Vermunium]

Anyone who is currently playing this game and not enjoying it is lying through their teeth. I'm barely an hour in, and I had to force myself to stop, so I could have some lunch before continuing. I haven't been this addicted to a game since Front Mission 3.

[Tanooki]

would it be bad if i chose to play this rather than going out with a lady i'm slightly interested in dating?

[Kurokawa41]

I guess that means I need this game, huh?

[Squall]

Piracy? Eh, I'm too lazy to be a pirate. I just figured it was some software patch to play DVDs or surf the Internet you could pay for on the Wii Shop Channel.


would it be bad if i chose to play this rather than going out with a lady i'm slightly interested in dating?

Yes! Go out on your date. The Wii will still be sitting there at home, waiting for you, later tonight. :P

[RomanMack]

Yes! Go out on your date. The Wii will still be sitting there at home, waiting for you, later tonight. :PBut it will be jealous. ;)

[Vermunium]

would it be bad if i chose to play this rather than going out with a lady i'm slightly interested in dating?

Depends on your definition of 'slightly' I'd stop doing whatever I was doing to go out with a girl I'm interested in, even if it was for a big game like this that I knew was out today.

[Vermunium]

Scanning isn't a tedious or annoying poke quest and has been revised to be easier to accomplish

Actually, I have to disagree there. I loved the way the scanning and log book were set up in Metroid Prime 2. It seems so organized and easy to access for me. Better than the first Metroid Prime. I'm only now starting on MP3, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up liking the logbook set-up, but I'm not liking the visor switch as much.

[Demonic Raven]

This game is top notch. I'm not even that far in and I experienced one hell of a boss battle...

That Meta Ridley fight is simply classic. Fighting while you're falling couldn't be more exciting. Even though I've already seen this one in gameplay videos, I'm glad to finally be experiencing it for myself.

[BCVM22]

Two hours in and enjoying this very much.

[Keiichi]

Let me ask a question. Is anyone in this thread left handed? Because I am and I'm not really enjoying this. Also why does Samus move even whem I'm not moving the analog stick? I find that annoying.

[BCVM22]

Let me ask a question. Is anyone in this thread left handed? Because I am and I'm not really enjoying this. Also why does Samus move even whem I'm not moving the analog stick? I find that annoying.

That you're left-handed shouldn't have any real affect on the controls, and in fact there's an option in the menu to swap the functions of the Plus and Minus buttons on the Remote, effectively flipping the control scheme.

Keep in mind that unlike the GameCube iterations where the Control Stick handled both movement (forward, backward, left, right) and aiming (up, down, left, right), it controls only actual movement here. Aiming is now done exclusively via the Remote. Samus isn't moving without the Stick; she's aiming, i.e. looking in whatever direction you're pointing the Remote once you move the reticle outside the invisible "bounding box" at the center of the screen. Change the sensitivity of the aiming controls in the options if you still can't get the hang of it after you've logged a few hours of gameplay.

[Kurokawa41]

That you're left-handed shouldn't have any real affect on the controls, and in fact there's an option in the menu to swap the functions of the Plus and Minus buttons on the Remote, effectively flipping the control scheme.

Keep in mind that unlike the GameCube iterations where the Control Stick handled both movement (forward, backward, left, right) and aiming (up, down, left, right), it controls only actual movement here. Aiming is now done exclusively via the Remote. Samus isn't moving without the Stick; she's aiming, i.e. looking in whatever direction you're pointing the Remote once you move the reticle outside the invisible "bounding box" at the center of the screen. Change the sensitivity of the aiming controls in the options if you still can't get the hang of it after you've logged a few hours of gameplay.

Okay, so this "bounding box" isn't like the one in Red Steel that took up the entire screen?

[BCVM22]

Okay, so this "bounding box" isn't like the one in Red Steel that took up the entire screen?

Nope. It's confined to the center of the screen, and its size is dependent upon the sensitivity setting you've chosen in the game options. Keep the reticle inside the box and you'll only aim the weapon inside the box's boundaries. Move it outside the box and Samus will physically look in that direction.

[Kurokawa41]

Nope. It's confined to the center of the screen, and its size is dependent upon the sensitivity setting you've chosen in the game options. Keep the reticle inside the box and you'll only aim the weapon inside the box's boundaries. Move it outside the box and Samus will physically look in that direction.

Thank GOD.

[Tanooki]

i'm loving the ability to cause massive damage with head shots. freaking awesome

[Strollymonster]

About an hour into it.

Agreed that the Ridley fight was one of the coolest boss battles I've seen in a game in a long while. Couldn't quit thinking of the scene from the second LOTR with Gandalf and the Balrog.

Also lovin' the bounty hunters, they seem like a pretty cool group of dudes.

One big new thing that I'm really liking is the increase in scripted events. I liked that aspect of other games, and MP3 has done well to integrate some more.

I'm still getting used to the controls, but no big difficulties yet.

[Beat]

Well good. Hopefully Prime 3 will show other developers how to use the Wii controls to properly make a FPS for the system, even if said controls take getting used to. The Call of Duty and Farcry ports were pathetic, and I'm hoping with the huge Wii base, developers stand up and take notice.

Having just bought a Wii, and noticing the lack of games developers have made made me worry a bit. I'm just hoping Metroid is the rule rather than the exception for the future.

[Hades]

Man, this game is awesome thus far. That battle with Ridley down the hole was just truly stunning and breath taking. This is the game we all bought our Wiis for. The only complaint I really have is the pointless auto aim lock thing. What does it do? I hold down Z and my gun still shoots way off to the side at times unless I aim it myself. Other than that, I have nothing to complain about. Well, except perhaps turning your head with the remote which is sometimes hard to do in frantic situations and you easily lose track of bosses.

[Demonic Raven]

The only complaint I really have is the pointless auto aim lock thing. What does it do? I hold down Z and my gun still shoots way off to the side at times unless I aim it myself. Other than that, I have nothing to complain about. Well, except perhaps turning your head with the remote which is sometimes hard to do in frantic situations and you easily lose track of bosses. Lock on only centers the camera upon whatever you lock onto. Unlike with the other Prime games, you can still aim in other places while you're locked on. It's useful once you get used to it.

As for the turning thing, I highly recommend switching over to Advanced in the options menu. The "bounding box" is smaller, so turning is faster.

Anyway, I'm already past Bryyo and I'm now in the middle of going through the Skyworld. At this point, I have figured out by far the most difficult thing about this game...and it is having to stop. :sweat:

But seriously, towards the end of my exploits in Bryyo, some of the Bosses/Mini Bosses really did trip me up. I had a hard time figuring out what to do, or how to do certain things. The game manages to keep things interesting, even if most of the enemies are "reveal the weakpoint and shoot".

[Storm Eagle]

would it be bad if i chose to play this rather than going out with a lady i'm slightly interested in dating?

Women would probably do the same thing to us, so why not?

So far, I'm up to the part where I've gotten the ability to fire phazon. The fight with Meta Ridley when falling down the pit was intense. I couldn't believe I defeated him there on the first try. Actually I couldn't believe I finished the first boss on the first try either. He nearly finished ME off first.

By the way, when I put my disc in for the first time, my Wii was upgrading. Would anyone happen to know what the upgrade was for?

[Eddy]

Hnn, well, I was planning on waiting for this to go down in price before buying it but, seeing all the comments, I think I might have to go ahead and blow some cash on this.

would it be bad if i chose to play this rather than going out with a lady i'm slightly interested in dating?
Tell her you have a date with a chick named Samus.

[MattThomasM2B]

I guess I'll GameFly it. Didn't like Prime at all, but according to reviews the backtracking has been played down and the action played up.

That plus the great controls warrant that I at least give it a try.

[Artimus Gigan]

Well the strangest thing thus far for me about this game is that the Instruction Manuel is in 3 different languages, as is everything on the box itself. It made reading the instructions confusing at first because I turned to the back and it was written in Spanish, then the middle was french and the Beginning was english.


The only thing I find lacking about this game is that they didn't upgrade the multiplayer from Metroid prime 2 and Hunters and pretty much did away with it.

Allhough I'm glad they finally made Samus' ship playable

[Dogbert]

I'm eagerly waiting getting the game in the mail sometime soon. Not really sure why seeing as I won't be able to play it for two weeks. The biggest, most important exam of my life is coming up and I've sworn off video games and DVDs until afterwards. This particular game will be very tempting...


Well the strangest thing thus far for me about this game is that the Instruction Manuel is in 3 different languages, as is everything on the box itself. It made reading the instructions confusing at first because I turned to the back and it was written in Spanish, then the middle was french and the Beginning was english.They did it to the instruction manual too? I know they've done a few multi-language cases before (e.g., Super Paper Mario), but I don't recall the manual being done that way. Personally, I find those cases to be annoying. I can somewhat understand Spanish (though unless the game has Spanish text as well, it's false advertising in my opinion). Honestly though, how many people speak French, not English, and play English video games in North America? I know there are a few French areas in Canada, but is it that common to lack basic English that Nintendo fears not including French on the case will hurt sales?

[Hades]

Yeah, it is very annoying because the instruction is just talking about the controls. There is next to nothing about the story, the available upgrades (which every manual has done before), the enemies, NOTHING.

[Tanooki]

dammit! i hate when you have to pull levers and fight enemies at the same time, yet they have the ability to put the levers back themselves. very annoying

[BCVM22]

dammit! i hate when you have to pull levers and fight enemies at the same time, yet they have the ability to put the levers back themselves. very annoying

Jump up to the first lever, wait for the two Aerotroopers to arrive, kill them both, pull the first lever and get the other two quickly.

[Punisher]

I'm glad to hear that other people are annoyed by the multi-language Wii cases. It just plain looks bad.

On topic-Picked this game up for my brother, but I don't have a Wii and he's going to take it back to college as soon as he gets over here >: |

[Zam]

Tell her you have a date with a chick named Samus.

Damn, that excuse wouldn´t work with Halo 3.

[Artimus Gigan]

Damn, that excuse wouldn´t work with Halo 3.
say Cortana instead of Samus

Also being a female warrior may be an option in multiplayer

So more or less this completes the metroid series (until another game is announced) and I've pretty much played thru the entire series(including Zero Mission, Pinball and I downloaded Super Metroid since it was cheaper than buying an SNES) overall I still have mixxed feelings on the series because alot of the earlier titles did have rough edges as far as accomplishments went, but this one seems to be the best of the Bunch and I hope the series further progresses.

[Tanooki]

retro studios did an excellent job with their trifecta of games in the series. they told ign that they're done with metroid, though, and are going to try their hands at something else. i think it'd be a shame to pass on the 3D torch, but i'll be interested in anything else they can pump out now that they got me hooked

[Beat]

I'm all for it if it means more games with the same level of ingenuity.

[Punisher]

retro studios did an excellent job with their trifecta of games in the series. they told ign that they're done with metroid, though, and are going to try their hands at something else. i think it'd be a shame to pass on the 3D torch, but i'll be interested in anything else they can pump out now that they got me hookedIt really would be a dream come true if they restarted development on Ravenblade.

[Dogasu]

I don't understand why so many of you seem to have a problem with multi-language instruction manuals. So you can't read Spanish or French. So what? Just read the English instructions and ignore the rest.

It really is that simple.

[Vermunium]

While Metroid Prime 3 is very awesome, this still doesn't top Metroid Prime 1. I'm loving it so far, and I'm having a bit of a tough time, since I decided to go with Veteran mode first.

[Demonic Raven]

Secret messages from Iwata and Miyamoto are hidden in this game! Interested? Thought so.

In your ship, hit the green button above you for the radio. Here are the symbols you have to hit, from left to right.

2 7 5 1 - Iwata
8 3 5 4 - Miyamoto

Of course it's in Japanese, but the translations are out there.

[Dark Fact]

I had the chance to check this game out over at a friend's house the other day. It definitely lives up to all the hype. The controls: fantastic. The visuals: stunning. The music: unforgettable. The usage of the Wiimote really lets you feel like you are Samus at times.

Since I suck at the Wii controls, all I did was watch my friend play it through. I have to say, this game really feels more like you're watching a summer action sci-fi movie when you watch someone else play it. The scenes where Samus has to race to the tower to stop a meteor impact was intense enough but like everyone else here, the battle with Meta Ridley (doesn't this guy ever die?) was absolutely incredible. I don't think I can recall any other game that had my heart pounding this intensely.

Voice acting was good too although Samus still doesn't talk. :(

All in all, a great game and a must for everyone's collection. :)


would it be bad if i chose to play this rather than going out with a lady i'm slightly interested in dating?
Look at it this way. You have a chance of making it to first base by going out with a girl you're interested in. With Samus Aran, you have no chance because:

A. She's a CG game model.
B. The only thing she loves is her job.
C. A Wii only costs you a couple hundred bucks and can last you for a decade or two. With a girl, you may have a chance at a relationship for life.

That said, doesn't Samus Aran have such lovely eyes? :)

[BCVM22]

That said, doesn't Samus Aran have such lovely eyes? :)

Nah. Her face gets all Phazon vein-y the more corrupted she gets.

[mookie75]

Look at it this way. You have a chance of making it to first base by going out with a girl you're interested in. With Samus Aran, you have no chance because:

A. She's a CG game model.
B. The only thing she loves is her job.
C. A Wii only costs you a couple hundred bucks and can last you for a decade or two. With a girl, you may have a chance at a relationship for life.



Ahh, but does Samus ever ask you "What are you thinking?" out of the clear blue sky and then act like she doesn't believe you when you tell her you really weren't thinking about anything in particular? ;)

[Dark Fact]

Ahh, but does Samus ever ask you "What are you thinking?" out of the clear blue sky and then act like she doesn't believe you when you tell her you really weren't thinking about anything in particular?
At least you're keeping your girlfriend company...unlike Samus. :shrug:

Nah. Her face gets all Phazon vein-y the more corrupted she gets.
You, my friend, just ruined my chance at a possible Maybelline quote comeback. I hope you're happy. :mad:

[BCVM22]

I apologize for nothing.

Also, let the record show that I did indeed spoilerize that in my original post.

[mookie75]

At least you're keeping your girlfriend company...unlike Samus. :shrug:

Hypothetically, that would be true. Honestly, I have no girlfriend at the moment, nor is there are single person that I'm interested in...so I'd easily choose playing Metroid 3 at this moment in my life.

Since I'm at the risk of having two completely off-topic posts on this page, I'll close by adding that this game is the first that has truly got me tempted to step up my search for a Wii in the stores. Up until now, I've been in the "I'll get one eventually" frame of mind, but I'm getting dangerously close to wanting one. Heck, I may only be able to pass up three or four more on the shelves at this point! ;)

[BCVM22]

Some advice for anyone close to finishing the game:

After you finish the final boss, you'll be given the option to save or not. If you allow it to save, your save file will be restarted; you'll maintain all of your Tokens, Credits and unlocked material, but for the game itself, you can only start over from the beginning on Normal, Veteran or Hypermode difficulty. So if you want to be able to at least replay the final world after finishing, either copy your save file or choose not to save at the end or whatever. Just a heads up.

Also, the final 2 boss battles (Dark Samus and Aurora Unit 313) = http://70.87.75.238/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Dark Fact]

I apologize for nothing.
Apology accepted. ;)

Also, let the record show that I did indeed spoilerize that in my original post.
Meh.

[Terror of Death]

What are the difficulty settings? (I am not that good of a gamer)

[Tanooki]

What are the difficulty settings? (I am not that good of a gamer)
normal
veteran
hyper mode
i'm kind of thinking veteran is the same as the difficulties as the previous games. as i've discussed with bird boy last night, i've only died a couple times so far and i'm pretty far into the game. same with bb. the only times i died were because of my own stupidity, too

first time i died was when my suit became too corrupted. second time i was about to attack a couple of space pirates with only 175 energy units. i popped an energy tank and wasted the one and then the second one killed me because i only had 75 energy after that

[Tanooki]

anybody on the collect the energy cells part? i can't seem to locate cell number 4. any help would be greatly appreciated

[BCVM22]

anybody on the collect the energy cells part? i can't seem to locate cell number 4. any help would be greatly appreciated

Pirate Homeworld > Research Facility > Metroid Processing. You'll activate a lift via an X-Ray switch (the type with the concentric circles that you have to line up properly). At the bottom of the lift, you'll find the Energy Cell to the left. This is actual Energy Cell No. 4 in your logbook, so I'm assuming it's the one you're asking for.

[Tanooki]

nope. it wasn't. thanks, though, bcvm22. the inventory screen actually lists them out. the one i was looking for was located in bryyo in the hidden courtyard. once i figured it out, i smacked my forehead. onto the final battle!

EDIT: beat it! the final battle was surprisingly easy. well, maybe not "surprisingly" since normal mode is essentially "easy mode". i was hoping the final boss would be metroid prime again, but no such luck. i thought it would have finished off the series nicely. the ending is a bit disappointing, too. samus flies back through the wormhole wearing her varia suit. what happened to the PED suit with the enviroment protection? did it get blown off in the final battle?

the 75% completion ending was a nice tribute to the other fallen hunters in the gamei plan on going back and getting 100%. right now i'm at 92%

[Hades]

Wait, you have to find all of the energy cells? Crap, that is going to take forever since I'm missing 3.

[BCVM22]

Wait, you have to find all of the energy cells? Crap, that is going to take forever since I'm missing 3.

You don't need to find all 9.

They're eventually used to power the GFS Valhalla when you find it adrift and heavily damaged in space. The minimum for completing the Valhalla to the extent necessary to progress in the game is 5 Energy Cells, so if you don't have all 9, be judicious in where you put Energy Cells in the ship, since not everything requiring an Energy Cell on the Valhalla is needed for progression. You'll also find a Cell (which would be the final one if you already have 8) immediately upon entering the Valhalla.

[Keiichi]

*sigh* After getting killed over ten times in a row by Mogenar I'm throwing in the towl. Way to go retro you mad a boss almost more tedious than Omega Pirate and Metroid Prime

[Tanooki]

*sigh* After getting killed over ten times in a row by Mogenar I'm throwing in the towl. Way to go retro you mad a boss almost more tedious than Omega Pirate and Metroid Prime
just curious as to what difficulty level you're playing on? i didn't find mogenar too bad. just annoying

blow up the red balls in his body. i think only need to do one, but i did all of them to be safe. go hyper. blast the new opening when it opens. once he starts charging, bomb his feet. go hyper. blast away at the openings again

something i liked about the end boss...
is when you nail dark samus with a hyper missle and it goes "ugh..." lol

[Storm Eagle]

nope. it wasn't. thanks, though, bcvm22. the inventory screen actually lists them out. the one i was looking for was located in bryyo in the hidden courtyard. once i figured it out, i smacked my forehead. onto the final battle!



So how exactly DO you get that one?

[Hades]

*sigh* After getting killed over ten times in a row by Mogenar I'm throwing in the towl. Way to go retro you mad a boss almost more tedious than Omega Pirate and Metroid Prime

Dude, Mogenar is the hardest boss in the entire game. He is the only one that has any strategy to beating him, for the other 3 main bosses are a joke. Yes, the final boss is probably the second easiest boss in the world.

Anyway, where was this Metroid Dread info people kept talking about, I never saw it?

[BCVM22]

Anyway, where was this Metroid Dread info people kept talking about, I never saw it?

It was a small bit of scan text on the Pirate Homeworld. It wasn't really info, just a brief bit. Here's a screenshot. (http://media.ds.ign.com/media/833/833052/img_4833559.html)


So how exactly DO you get that one?

Once you gain access to the Gunship Missile Expansion control terminal in the Federation Landing Site, use it to raise the central platform. Take the lift to the upper level and upon exiting the lift, turn right to spot a pair of air ducts. Enter the nearest one and you'll emerge in a control room containing the Energy Cell. Remove it, exit the room and continue on with your efforts.

[Hades]

BTW, I beat the game with 100% in 15 hours. As I recall, I had Echoes at 18 hours and only 67%.

[Tanooki]

It was a small bit of scan text on the Pirate Homeworld. It wasn't really info, just a brief bit. Here's a screenshot. (http://media.ds.ign.com/media/833/833052/img_4833559.html)



Once you gain access to the Gunship Missile Expansion control terminal in the Federation Landing Site, use it to raise the central platform. Take the lift to the upper level and upon exiting the lift, turn right to spot a pair of air ducts. Enter the nearest one and you'll emerge in a control room containing the Energy Cell. Remove it, exit the room and continue on with your efforts.again. not the one i'm talking about

energy cell 4...
is located in bryyo. go to the room where you defeated the aero space troopers who kept reversing all the switches that you pulled in order to stop the cannon from firing. i don't remember the room exactly, but there is a large battery in there. using your ship's grapple beam, pick up the battery. no head to the hidden court yard where the giant stone robot was located. using your ship visor, look to the upper floors and you'll see a drop spot. drop the battery there which will activate the pump station. after that, the rest should be self explanatory

[Keiichi]

just curious as to what difficulty level you're playing on? i didn't find mogenar too bad. just annoying


I'm on normal level. I can destroy two of the orb sockets but I'm so low on health afterwards and he's going beserk jumping around and I can't get a clear shot. Also is does'nt help when he makes rocks fall and you can't dodge both them and his shock waves when he jumps.

*EDIT*

I toally give up. I tried one more time and died 6 more times. Guess I just totally suck at this game.

[Tanooki]

just beat it at 100%. 16 hours
i'm kind of disappointed that retro is moving on to other games. i'm happy, but disappointed. the 100% ending left the game open. it shows samus flying off into space after visiting the chozo temple from prime 1. after she zips into the blackness of space, a green clone of her ship (with some modifications) shows up and chases after herwhat game comes after prime 3?

[BCVM22]

just beat it at 100%. 16 hours
i'm kind of disappointed that retro is moving on to other games. i'm happy, but disappointed. the 100% ending left the game open. it shows samus flying off into space after visiting the chozo temple from prime 1. after she zips into the blackness of space, a green clone of her ship (with some modifications) shows up and chases after herwhat game comes after prime 3?

- She was sitting on the docking bay at Skytown in the ending, not Tallon IV.
- The ship apparently closely resembles the one belonging to Sylux, one of the rival bounty hunters from Metroid Prime: Hunters; I don't know what significance Retro intended that to have. I didn't particularly think it resembled Samus' gunship, but that's an unrelated semantic argument.
- The games bearing the Prime title (the GameCube/Wii trilogy + Pinball and Hunters) supposedly take place between Metroid and Metroid II. The latest game chronologically is Metroid Fusion.

[Storm Eagle]

Some advice for anyone close to finishing the game:

After you finish the final boss, you'll be given the option to save or not. If you allow it to save, your save file will be restarted; you'll maintain all of your Tokens, Credits and unlocked material, but for the game itself, you can only start over from the beginning on Normal, Veteran or Hypermode difficulty. So if you want to be able to at least replay the final world after finishing, either copy your save file or choose not to save at the end or whatever. Just a heads up.

Also, the final 2 boss battles (Dark Samus and Aurora Unit 313) = http://70.87.75.238/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

I finished the game last night. I was glad to see that when you save and start over, that all the scans you've picked up on the first attempt cross over into the second attempt. I'm trying again now on the veteran difficulty level and have advanced a bit, but then I learned that I still missed some scans. Scans that I'll have to pick up after I finish the game a SECOND time now. *sigh*

[BCVM22]

I finished the game last night. I was glad to see that when you save and start over, that all the scans you've picked up on the first attempt cross over into the second attempt. I'm trying again now on the veteran difficulty level and have advanced a bit, but then I learned that I still missed some scans. Scans that I'll have to pick up after I finish the game a SECOND time now. *sigh*

I dunno if you were doing that for the purposes of getting the 100% ending, but your completion percentage is based solely on your Missile Expansions, Gunship Missile Expansions and Energy Tanks; the scans don't figure into it like they did in the last two games.

[Storm Eagle]

I dunno if you were doing that for the purposes of getting the 100% ending, but your completion percentage is based solely on your Missile Expansions, Gunship Missile Expansions and Energy Tanks; the scans don't figure into it like they did in the last two games.

Well yeah I've seen that being said before. I was just thinking that maybe getting all the scans might make something else special happen.

By the way, when I was going to Phaaze, I copied that file to another slot, and I played that copy last night as well. That's the one where I got 75% of the items, and I even finished it to see the second best ending.

I wonder if finishing the game on the highest difficulty level does something special too, like in the first two Prime games.

[BCVM22]

A full Logbook and/or a Hypermode finish yield no additional bonuses to the best of my knowledge.

[Storm Eagle]

A full Logbook and/or a Hypermode finish yield no additional bonuses to the best of my knowledge.

I'm kind of hoping they don't, even though they'd be nice to accomplish on my own time.

[Hades]

I dunno if you were doing that for the purposes of getting the 100% ending, but your completion percentage is based solely on your Missile Expansions, Gunship Missile Expansions and Energy Tanks; the scans don't figure into it like they did in the last two games.

The scans never counted towards your percentage before either. I got 100% in the first game and only scanned a little bit of the items.

[Strollymonster]

The scans never counted towards your percentage before either. I got 100% in the first game and only scanned a little bit of the items.

That always annoyed me. Why include a total number of scans to attain (i.e. 4/12, etc) if they don't count for anything except backstory?

Anyways, finished the game at 96%, have a few thoughts.

Got to give Retro a hand, they crafted a really-well made game. The production values are quite high, and they make me wish more Wii games had as much effort put in, rather than the quick waggle cash-ins that we've seen so far.

I loved the stage designs. Bryyo had an amazing skyline, what with the weird mini-planets chained to the surface and the ruins of the ancient civilization about. Norion was a bit more sterile than I liked, but it did host one of the coolest boss fights in the game (more on that later.)

My absolute favorite, however, was definitely Skytown. Hokey name aside, it was a total steampunk dream environment. The atmosphere of a self-sustained mechanical world with tons of little robots maintaining it was just sweet. In addition, the grapple ziplines were a terrific way to get around. I can't believe they didn't think of those for previous titles.

Pirate Homeworld was appropriately creepy, though I had a few quibbles about even getting there. I really don't think it should have been that easy for Samus to just go to the planet and land without so much as any kind of resistance from surface guns. GFS Valhalla was cool, and it had a definite "Aliens" vibe with the wrecked spaceship.

The creature design was top-notch. While the Galactic troopers looked a bit too much like Halo extras, the aliens and bounty hunters were amazing. The bosses were pretty fun, although it took me a couple of tries to get Mogenar taken care of.

There are a few problems I had with the game though.

There were too few save rooms on the planets themselves. This usually wasn't an issue, except when the ship was carrying something with the grapple beam and couldn't land without taking it back. Small quibble, really.

The lock-on also wasn't always perfect. There'd be times I'd put the cursor on top of the enemy and try to lock on, but it would just freeze the visor in place instead of following the enemy. It didn't happen too often, but it occasionally got annoying during boss fights.

I liked that they incorporated Samus's ship into this game, but it could have been so much better. For instance, what was the point of the ship missile upgrades if they never actually make any difference? All they ever get used for is to rarely blast an obstacle out of the way. In addition, there are cockpit controls that don't get used at all, like the steel windshield, thrusters, or red alert mode. This game would have been much better if we had just a few times where we got to fly the ship around and blast stuff. An example is the Pirate Homeworld. Rather than just clicking the icon and automatically flying there, the game could have taken you to the atmosphere to get around the anti-air resistance they would undoubtedly have.

Overall, it was satisfying. However, I do hope the next Metroid game will have a greater focus on actually doing some bounty hunting, which is supposed to be Samus's profession anyways.

[mookie75]

That always annoyed me. Why include a total number of scans to attain (i.e. 4/12, etc) if they don't count for anything except backstory?


The scans added to the storyline, as you said, but they also opened up galleries of concept art if you acquired enough of them. Of course, that would only be exciting to people that enjoy looking at concept art, but hey, I enjoyed looking at them all a couple times.