Doomsday or Hulk

[Aizen]

Who do you think in stronger, Doomsday or Hulk? Doomsday beat up a lot of the leaguers and the whole GL corps and killed Superman! (I have heard that Superman can beat Hulk) Hulk...well we all know what happened in World War Hulk...

[Hawkman]

Hulk would kick dooms days ass he has no resaning skills and thusly would only make Hulk mad

also in heroclix a red Hulk can stomp a red dooms day in 5 turns or so

[Aizen]

Hulk would kick dooms days ass he has no resaning skills and thusly would only make Hulk mad

also in heroclix a red Hulk can stomp a red dooms day in 5 turns or so
Lol, I am not talking about heroclix (though it's really cool ;), and Doomsday has more point value than Hulk in it). I remember in Marvel vs. DC, Superman beat Hulk, but Doomsday beat (killed :eek:) Superman...

[LazyReaper]

Lol, I am not talking about heroclix (though it's really cool ;), and Doomsday has more point value than Hulk in it). I remember in Marvel vs. DC, Superman beat Hulk, but Doomsday beat (killed :eek:) Superman...
That kind of logic doesn't work. Superman is DC's most iconic character, so of course he won't lose, even to the Hulk and especially when it's a crossover event against Marvel. In his own book, yeah, Superman can get killed all he wants because DC will be the one controlling how he goes and comes.

Anyways, back on topic, I'd say Hulk would beat Doomsday any day (see what I did there? :p). The reasoning behind this is that Hulk just gets madder once anyone starts pounding him, and everyone knows that when Hulk gets madder, he get stronger too. The only way to really get rid of the Hulk is to calm him and bring out Bruce, and I seriously doubt that Doomsday could do that.


-Aximlli-

[Aizen]

That kind of logic doesn't work. Superman is DC's most iconic character, so of course he won't lose, even to the Hulk and especially when it's a crossover event against Marvel. In his own book, yeah, Superman can get killed all he wants because DC will be the one controlling how he goes and comes.

Anyways, back on topic, I'd say Hulk would beat Doomsday any day (see what I did there? :p). The reasoning behind this is that Hulk just gets madder once anyone starts pounding him, and everyone knows that when Hulk gets madder, he get stronger too. The only way to really get rid of the Hulk is to calm him and bring out Bruce, and I seriously doubt that Doomsday could do that.


-Aximlli-
You are forgetting that Doomsday develops resistance to whatever hurts or injures or even kills him. So, even though Hulk injures him, Doomsday will just shake it off and come back to fight and then Hulk can't do much...
Plus Doomsday has almost unlimited stamina which means he can never get tired...

[Palin Dromos]

You are forgetting that Doomsday develops resistance to whatever hurts or injures or even kills him. So, even though Hulk injures him, Doomsday will just shake it off and come back to fight and then Hulk can't do much...
Plus Doomsday has almost unlimited stamina which means he can never get tired...

The same can be said about Hulk. His stamina and durability both go up as he gets angerier. He's even shown the ability to evolve to circumstances as needed.

And while Doomsday did "kill" Superman, Superman also "killed" Doomsday at the same time.

Doomsday has been "killed" a few times.

Can't remember the last time Hulk was killed. (though I haven't read World War Hulk, so it that's how it ended...well...that would be one death).

I kinda think that Doomsday's unrelenting attacks would eventually push the Hulk far enough that he would be able to just rend Doomsday limb from limb.

[Aizen]

The same can be said about Hulk. His stamina and durability both go up as he gets angerier. He's even shown the ability to evolve to circumstances as needed.

And while Doomsday did "kill" Superman, Superman also "killed" Doomsday at the same time.

Doomsday has been "killed" a few times.

Can't remember the last time Hulk was killed. (though I haven't read World War Hulk, so it that's how it ended...well...that would be one death).

I kinda think that Doomsday's unrelenting attacks would eventually push the Hulk far enough that he would be able to just rend Doomsday limb from limb.
Yeah but the more Doomsday dies, the better he becomes.

[Paul_Cousins]

Lol, I am not talking about heroclix (though it's really cool ;), and Doomsday has more point value than Hulk in it). I remember in Marvel vs. DC, Superman beat Hulk, but Doomsday beat (killed :eek:) Superman...That was Bruce Hulk (weakest version of the Hulk) and Clark sucker punched him.

Savage Hulk versus Savage Doomsday (not intelligent Doomsday) would be a hard fight to call, but it really won't matter cause they would destroy the world.

[Jeff Harris]

The Doomsday creature.

Like I said at Yahoo Answers, Hulk can get mad all he wants and will get in a few shots, but the Doomsday creature will end up on top. Hulk will get worn down because, in the end, he is still human. The Doomsday creature is evolution at its best, always adapting (he's more sentient now, meaning he's cunning and capable of thought) and almost unstoppable. He'll get knocked around, but he'll still be victorious. Kind of like DBZ's Cell without the multiple transformations.

[Aizen]

The Doomsday creature.

Like I said at Yahoo Answers, Hulk can get mad all he wants and will get in a few shots, but the Doomsday creature will end up on top. Hulk will get worn down because, in the end, he is still human. The Doomsday creature is evolution at its best, always adapting (he's more sentient now, meaning he's cunning and capable of thought) and almost unstoppable. He'll get knocked around, but he'll still be victorious. Kind of like DBZ's Cell without the multiple transformations.
One question, how would Doomsday get beat without kryptonite?

[Blackstar]

One question, how would Doomsday get beat without kryptonite?

Doomsday isn't vulnerable to kryptonite. If he were then the League could have just used kryptonite to kill him. And even if he were at one time, Doomsday said himself when Supes tried to lobotomize him with his heat vision in "The Doomsday Sanction" that he can't be killed the same way twice.

[Aizen]

Doomsday isn't vulnerable to kryptonite. If he were then the League could have just used kryptonite to kill him. And even if he were at one time, Doomsday said himself when Supes tried to lobotomize him with his heat vision in "The Doomsday Sanction" that he can't be killed the same way twice.
Oh right, I thought he was vulnerable to kryptonite

[Brainatra]

I'm voting for Hulk, since, to me, Doomsday always sucked hard... stupid, annoying plot-device character... why they keep him around/keep bringing him back, I don't know...

[Aizen]

I'm voting for Hulk, since, to me, Doomsday always sucked hard... stupid, annoying plot-device character... why they keep him around/keep bringing him back, I don't know...
Oh come on man, you have to have a reason at least...:sweat:

[Paul_Cousins]

Doomsday isn't vulnerable to kryptonite. If he were then the League could have just used kryptonite to kill him. And even if he were at one time, Doomsday said himself when Supes tried to lobotomize him with his heat vision in "The Doomsday Sanction" that he can't be killed the same way twice.The Doomsday in DCAU is a variation of the Intellegent Doomday.

A good example of Savage Doomsday, beyond the Death of Superman saga is it's sequel the "Hunter/Prey" comic trilogy (3 issues), which very good by itself and gives Doomsday's origins.

In a fight between Savage Hulk and Savage Doomsday would be a fight between a being with a cosmic level power right-hook (see the punch savage Hulk hit Onslaught with in the Onslaught Saga) against someone who can literally withstand everything short of the end of the universe/big crunch (DC Hunter/Prey trilogy) and comeback for more.

[Shawn Hopkins]

I don't know about Doomsday, except agreeing that he sucks. I don't know if he can even be killed by being beaten to death again since he died that way once. If he can't be killed that way, what would the Hulk do?

But the Hulk got screwed in his fight with Superman. That was during the period when if he got to mad he would turn into Savage Banner. So he didn't have access to his "madder and stronger" abilities.

[Stu]

Hulk is the strongest one there is. There's is a reason why he is pretty much the Marvel universe's worst nightmare, as the moment he's turned "evil", he is unstoppable.

Doomsday was a plot device, nothing more. The fact that no one else has bothered to do anything with him since only further proves the point.

[Aizen]

Hulk is the strongest one there is. There's is a reason why he is pretty much the Marvel universe's worst nightmare, as the moment he's turned "evil", he is unstoppable.
Even guys like Thanos, Silver Surfer, and Galactus?

[JAG]

Well, as much as I hate to admit it, Doomsday has more power in one hand than Hulk has in his whole body. I seem to remember reading that when Banner first becomes the Hulk, he can lift 70-80 tons. Superman can lift millions of tons, and Doomsday is even stronger! Yes, Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier, but the fight would have to go on for weeks to make it even, and Hulk has zero chance of lasting that long. Doomsday would waste him inside ten minutes, I'd bet.

[sleepyhead]

House of M Hulk rocks. Doomsday would definitely lost the battle.;)

[Aizen]

Well, as much as I hate to admit it, Doomsday has more power in one hand than Hulk has in his whole body. I seem to remember reading that when Banner first becomes the Hulk, he can lift 70-80 tons. Superman can lift millions of tons, and Doomsday is even stronger! Yes, Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier, but the fight would have to go on for weeks to make it even, and Hulk has zero chance of lasting that long. Doomsday would waste him inside ten minutes, I'd bet.
I wouldn't say ten minutes, but thanks for agreeing with me. I mean he beat Darkseid, killed HUNDREDS of Green Lanterns, beat the Justice League with on hand tied behind his back...
I know Hulk is strong, but Doomsday is impervious to the thing that kills him, so even if Hulk does (which I doubt)...he won't be able to again.

[Brainatra]

I wouldn't say ten minutes, but thanks for agreeing with me. I mean he beat Darkseid, killed HUNDREDS of Green Lanterns, beat the Justice League with on hand tied behind his back...
I know Hulk is strong, but Doomsday is impervious to the thing that kills him, so even if Hulk does (which I doubt)...he won't be able to again.

IIRC, the JLA Doomsday beat (in the "Death of Superman" storyline) was composed mainly of B- and C-list heroes ... beating them was probably the equivalent of seeing the Texas Rangers beating the Baltimore Orioles. ;-)

-B.

[Shawn Hopkins]

IIRC, the JLA Doomsday beat (in the "Death of Superman" storyline) was composed mainly of B- and C-list heroes ... beating them was probably the equivalent of seeing the Texas Rangers beating the Baltimore Orioles. ;-)

-B.

Yep, he beat Ice, Maxima (by blowing up a gas station), Guy Gardner with his yellow Sinestro ring (by blinding him with a cheap shot), Booster Gold (with the magic car door that could close on his head without killing him), Blue Beetle and I think maybe Fire. Not exactly worldbeaters. Martian Manhunter was on the team at the time but he conveniently thought he was some guy named Bloodwynd (long story) and so forgot to use most of his powers.

And the Superman he killed was not the pre-Crisis planet juggling one, it was the depowered, post Crisis one. That Superman couldn't even survive in space without a breathing apparatus. Superman has since got way more powerful. And even at the time he killed Superman, Doomsday wasn't stronger, they were just about evenly matched. Superman was able to deliver a killing blow with significantly depleted strength. If he'd went for a fatal solution quicker he could have ended Doomsday at the start (and saved hundreds of lives).

In retrospect, Death of Superman wasn't a very good story. It had a lot of logical gaps and it introduced a very crappy character.

[Russkafin]

Hmm... The Hulk vs Doomsday....

The Winner: The Fans!!!!!!!

[Aizen]

Yep, he beat Ice, Maxima (by blowing up a gas station), Guy Gardner with his yellow Sinestro ring (by blinding him with a cheap shot), Booster Gold (with the magic car door that could close on his head without killing him), Blue Beetle and I think maybe Fire. Not exactly worldbeaters. Martian Manhunter was on the team at the time but he conveniently thought he was some guy named Bloodwynd (long story) and so forgot to use most of his powers.

And the Superman he killed was not the pre-Crisis planet juggling one, it was the depowered, post Crisis one. That Superman couldn't even survive in space without a breathing apparatus. Superman has since got way more powerful. And even at the time he killed Superman, Doomsday wasn't stronger, they were just about evenly matched. Superman was able to deliver a killing blow with significantly depleted strength. If he'd went for a fatal solution quicker he could have ended Doomsday at the start (and saved hundreds of lives).

In retrospect, Death of Superman wasn't a very good story. It had a lot of logical gaps and it introduced a very crappy character.
Well Doomsday beat Darkseid...and HUNDREDS of GLs.

[Shawn Hopkins]

Well Doomsday beat Darkseid...and HUNDREDS of GLs.

So what? Doesn't make him less of a turd. He's a terrible character.

Guess who has gone up against Dr. Doom and Galactus and come out on top? Dazzler, the disco version.

[Aizen]

So what? Doesn't make him less of a turd. He's a terrible character.
I mean him in terms of power, not cool character wise.

[Shawn Hopkins]

I mean him in terms of power, not cool character wise.

Green Lanterns and Darkseid job, though. Killing a few nameless GL is a good way for DC to puff up some cosmic threat. Doomsday beating up Darkseid isn't that big a deal because Darkseid's physical strength is not the main thing that makes him dangerous. And even in terms of his cunning Batman has beaten Darkseid.

[Aizen]

Green Lanterns and Darkseid job, though. Killing a few nameless GL is a good way for DC to puff up some cosmic threat. Doomsday beating up Darkseid isn't that big a deal because Darkseid's physical strength is not the main thing that makes him dangerous. And even in terms of his cunning Batman has beaten Darkseid.
When did Batman beat him?