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Jack Napier
02-11-2002, 08:50 PM
Now I know this is a Star Wars question on the Comics message board but this was the only place that I thought I could post this...

So really why is he so cool?

I like the guy but he didn't really do much...

Sure he was the only bounty hunter in Empire who got Han, but in the whole trilogy that's all he did. He was in the first 3 movies for approx 10 minutes...(and for the special edition they just added him in) yet he is the most popular character in the Star Wars universe. He also died in a lame way by being pushed into the sarlacc, some kick butt bounty hunter. That just made him look like a joke. I know that the books say he survived but come on folks...

I think Boba Fett is the biggest load of propaganda in the Star Wars universe. I think he payed George Lucas extra cash so people don't think he's lame...

... He was pretty cool in the Star Wars Holiday Special though...

Jack Napier

Calhoun07
02-11-2002, 09:27 PM
First, Boba Fett did not die. He escaped from the sarlacc.

I think this is a very appropriate conversation for the comics board, because I think that Boba Fett really took off in popularity with the fans in the novels and in the comics. To limit his appeal to just 10 minutes of on scree time isn't entirely fair, as any Boba Fett fan will be a fan of his appearances outside of the movies.

Apache Chief
02-12-2002, 10:40 AM
According to Lucas, the official story is that Boba did indeed die. There have been numerous stories featuring him that take place post-Jedi, but those are not canon; not official continuity. Like it or not, he croaked when Han accidentally knocked him into the pit. Not a dignified death for such a popular character, but there you go. As to why's he's so popular, well, the armor's cool, and he's got this whole "silent-mysterious-I'm-a-badass-don't-mess-with-me" thing going on. We will see his "father" (sort of) in "When Clones Attack!", or whatever it's called.

Bird Boy
02-12-2002, 10:57 AM
OK...Boba Fett didn't die. StarWars.com even says so. Dengar pulled Fett ouf of the sarlacc, "nursed" him, and now Boba Fetts a happy lil' bounty hunter.

and, I could go on and on..but it's best I don't..:D

-BB

DR. BELCH
02-12-2002, 12:07 PM
...what's his style? Does he use a more cerebral approach to catching his victims, like Batman, or is he more the "slam a perp against a wall and utter a few choice four-letter words in their face" Wolverine type?

Apache Chief
02-12-2002, 12:07 PM
I feel sorry for you Star Wars fans sometimes. Lucas said in an interview that Fett was dead, and he would know better than the drone who runs the official website.

Jack Napier
02-12-2002, 04:33 PM
That's the thing Fett is dead. The only reason he is alive is because of the books. My problem is with Lucas saying he is dead yet he lets people write all these books, and throw continuity out the window. There are many flaws in episode one and now a major flaw in episode II. Who is Jango Fett? So Boba Fett's dad, that's funny we've never heard of him before...

I honestly think Star Wars is in the verge of extinction, fans are getting fed up and I am one of them...

Jack Napier

Apache Chief
02-12-2002, 04:53 PM
I hear ya. But, to answer your questions

BIG SPOILER BELOW!!















Boba is a clone of Jango. (And based on the movie's ridiculous title, chances are good he's going to attack sombody.) As for the reason we have never heard of him, well, we never heard much about Fett at all in the films which is the only official story.

Calhoun07
02-12-2002, 05:10 PM
Lucas said that in an interview when? The only reason I am asking is that there is a team of people at Lucasfilm that approve of the books to make sure they stick with continuity, and if there are stories featuring Boba Fett in novels and in comics, those are approved by Lucasfilm and cannon.

Apache Chief
02-12-2002, 05:18 PM
Yes, all SW books, games, comics, and whatever else have to be approved by Lucas, but that's only to make sure that the characters are consistent. (You know, we can't have Chewie get drunk and start hitting on Han.) That doesn't make them canon. Only the films are canon. Lucas said as much (and mentioned Mr. Fett's demise) in the trio of interviews he did with Leonard Maltin that appeared in front of the last set of the original forms of the trilogy on VHS. (Before the "special editions".)

Gyro
02-12-2002, 05:22 PM
I think all bounty hunters are cool.

CadaverousEyes
02-13-2002, 01:37 AM
Lucas (or someone, I can't remember exactly)) confirmed that Chewbacca's death in that one book was canon. But regardless, it had to be confirmed. Fett is dead, deal with it!

Clayface
02-13-2002, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by CadaverousEyes
Lucas (or someone, I can't remember exactly)) confirmed that Chewbacca's death in that one book was canon. But regardless, it had to be confirmed. Fett is dead, deal with it!

Yeah, I believe the "New Jedi Order" books are all official cannon now. The books were getting out of control and running all over the place, so they sort of rebooted things with the "New Jedi Order" series of books - trying to keep things in line.

Clayface
02-13-2002, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Bird Boy
OK...Boba Fett didn't die. StarWars.com even says so. Dengar pulled Fett ouf of the sarlacc, "nursed" him, and now Boba Fetts a happy lil' bounty hunter.



Umm, actually, starwars.com says he did die:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/bobafett/index.html

Well, at least it says he "seems to" have died. ;)

Bird Boy
02-13-2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Clayface



Umm, actually, starwars.com says he did die:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/bobafett/index.html

Well, at least it says he "seems to" have died. ;)


true, but that's under the "The Movies" tag. If you go to "expanded universe", it'll say that about that..:




Fett's armor and body were extremely battered by his ordeal in the Sarlacc. When he plunged into the beast, he was kept alive by numerous fibrous suckers which attached themselves to his body. This was part of the Sarlacc's horrible metabolic process; it would keep its prey alive for thousands of years, all the while slowly feeding off it. Fett almost lost his identity in the swirling dementia brought about by the Sarlacc's toxins. His resolve held, and he used his weapons to blast free of the beast.

Naked, wounded, and defenseless on the sands of Tatooine, Fett was rescued by his fellow hunter Dengar, who nursed him back to health. Fett reclaimed his armor and his reputation, returning from the "dead," and again taking on bounties. It wasn't until six years after the Battle of Endor that Han Solo learned his nemesis was still alive.

Although Fett still piloted his antiquated Slave I, he updated his arsenal with the ultrasleek Slave II. These were but the first two of his vessels, which would eventually number up to Slave IV.

:)

-BB

Clayface
02-13-2002, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Bird Boy


true, but that's under the "The Movies" tag. If you go to "expanded universe", it'll say that about that..:


Right, but we're talking about the movie cannon here - and according to Lucas, the expanded universe stuff isn't movie cannon. Lucas sees the movies as the "real" Star Wars universe, and the one that is considered cannon. Some things outside of the movie he supports as cannon, but he doesn't consider the expanded universe stuff as part of that.

Bird Boy
02-13-2002, 10:54 AM
yeah. but what I don't get is, Lucas approves this gosh darn books, but it doesn't apply to the movie..?? Mmm kay..

True, I don't believe anything except whats in the movies (for me, Chewbacca isn't really dead)...cept the Fett thing...I dunno..maybe cuz he's my fave...lol

-BB

Clayface
02-13-2002, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Bird Boy
yeah. but what I don't get is, Lucas approves this gosh darn books, but it doesn't apply to the movie..?? Mmm kay..



Actually, it makes a lot of sense if you think about it - just consider the books and "expanded universe" stuff as elseworlds stories. Every comic fan has no problem with that in the comic world - I don't know why so many sci-fi fans have problems with the same concept.

Manhunter
02-13-2002, 09:55 PM
That's what pisses me off about Lucas,sometimes. Interesting characters like Fett and Maul,he kills off without so much as a thought,but crappy characters like Jar Jar and the Ewoks get to live on.

CadaverousEyes
02-13-2002, 11:57 PM
That's because bad guys always die and good guys always win. Just look at the Stormtroopers. With all their clunky armor it still only takes 1 shot to kill them, and apparently the Emperor thought that funding 2 death stars was more important than "basic training" since no matter how many there are, they never get close to actually hitting someone.

Calhoun07
02-14-2002, 01:19 AM
Lucas (or someone, I can't remember exactly)) confirmed that Chewbacca's death in that one book was canon. But regardless, it had to be confirmed. Fett is dead, deal with it!

Now, if Chewbacca's death is canon, how could Fett's survival NOT be cannon?

BaTMaN-JL
02-14-2002, 06:14 AM
This reminds me of the Apple Jacks cereal commerial. "Why do kids like Apple Jacks?" "We just do.... yaahhhhh" I don't know why I like Boba Fett, maybe it's the costume or how he looks badass

Clayface
02-14-2002, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Calhoun07


Now, if Chewbacca's death is canon, how could Fett's survival NOT be cannon?

Because, as I said earlier, the "New Jedi Order" books are considered canon - and Chewy's death occured in the "New Jedi Order" series. Boba Fett's return occured in the pre-NJO books, which are not considered canon.

Bird Boy
02-14-2002, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Clayface


Because, as I said earlier, the "New Jedi Order" books are considered canon - and Chewy's death occured in the "New Jedi Order" series. Boba Fett's return occured in the pre-NJO books, which are not considered canon.

BUT, doesn't Boba Fett appear in the NJO books?

(I love discussing stuffl iike this.....dunno why...but it's fun.. :))

-BB

Clayface
02-14-2002, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Bird Boy


BUT, doesn't Boba Fett appear in the NJO books?


That I don't know. So far, I've only read through to the one where Chewy dies (I've got a lot of reading to catch up on!). But, up until that point, Boba Fett has not appeared.

James
02-17-2002, 07:32 PM
In the end, it's up to the individual what he/she considers canon. Was the Holiday Special canon? At the moment, Lucas has disowned it but give him a few more years and he wants to buy a giant country to store his excessive collection of baseball hats, that will be released and added to the canon...

In the end, I think he will endose the 'event or product' but keeps his options open. Fett is dead unless Lucas decides to make a multiepisode adaptation based at the rear end of the six films - then, suddenly, in the heat of all this cash milking, Fett will be declared living!

Face it, I think it just comes to be that everything is pretty much canon until the main guy decides to write something that conflicts with it then it suddenly becomes non canon.

Personally, I consider the films canon and no more. IMO.

Oh, still doesn't really answer the topic question... and if I recall, Boba was popular prior to the books and comics... possibly because of his shock value. He was the one to capture Han and that at the time was pretty shocking - and scary to us when we were kids. I think that has something to do with it and the mystique to what he looks like underneath the armour..

Nass
02-18-2002, 09:25 PM
Why is Boba Fett cool? Thats like asking why do we like ice cream? He's a bounty hunter, and he somehow wins while being a badguy. He got Han to Jabba, he's buddies with Darth Vader - the #1 bad arse Sith lord of the Galaxy, and he's pretty much impossible to kill. The question should be how could Boba Fett NOT be cool? Im done.

Clayface
02-18-2002, 09:42 PM
I don't know - I grew up with the Star Wars movies, and I never understood the interest in Boba Fett. Always seemed likea nothing, throw-away character to me. I still don't get why people like him.

CadaverousEyes
02-19-2002, 12:01 AM
That "impossible to kill" deal didn't seem to help him against a blind and disoriented Han Solo.

James
02-19-2002, 11:10 AM
I agree. I've never felt the obsessive interest that most SW fans have in BF. He is so unbelieveably popular I've seen him rank higher than most main characters in some polls. Odd, as he is a pretty dumb character in ROTJ...(what a pratfall to have to take for your deathscene!)

Is it just people trying to stand out? I understand that people like him, and as I said in my prev. post I see some reasons, but it does seen OTT. I've never had any urge to ready any material about him.

TheHuntressDiana
02-19-2002, 12:20 PM
Why is Boba Fett cool?

Mystery is a good reason...

As is Han's reaction to him on ROTJ (Boba Fett? Where?)...

Vader's command of "No descinegrations!" (sp) to him as he sends all the other bounty hunters after the Millennium Falcon...

Calhoun07
02-19-2002, 12:36 PM
I think the more fanatic fans of Boba Fett are the ones who have gotten in to him in the expanded universe. I know people who didn't really care for him in the movies but started to really get into his character in Shadows of the Empire (and he WAS cool in that!) and in other comics and books. I think that's when his popularity really took off.