To Catch a Predator

[Master Moron]

You, know, a couple of weeks ago I discovered this show on MSNBC. Basically, people go online and pretend to be 12-14 year olds in order to lure suspects into a home. Once in the home, a decoy posing as the girl tells the suspect to wait a minute and she leaves the room, then this reporter, Chris Hanson, enters the room and interviews them. He doesn't arrest them, he doesn't read them their rights, yet he grills them about their reasons for coming to the house. He then reads them excerpts from the online chats. Finally, Chris Hanson tells them they're free to leave, so they walk out of the house, only to be arrested by police officers.

This show is the most disgusting show I've ever seen. They violate suspects rights' and then exploit them on national television. I'm all for catching pedophiles, but the crap they do on this show is entrapment. Sometimes the online decoy initiates the sex talk. Most of the time they're not actually catching criminals who are predisposed to commit these crimes.

I just read this article that says that someone's sister is suing the show because her brother was set up by the show and blew his brains out when the police and camera crew came to his house:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/28/america/NA-GEN-US-Sex-Predator-Sting.php

Well, that's what happens when you exploit a serious issue for entertainment. I really hope they take this garbage off the air.

[PC!]

It surprises me just how many pedophiles there seem to be in the US. The show definitely brings it to light. It's quite a sad thing.

[Havok]

This show is hilarious. And I feel no compassion for the "victims", most of the time they come bearing gifts (no pun intended) anyway. So whether or not the decoy initiates talk is irrelevant, not to mention the pedos already sparked up the interest when they searched for little girls on the internet.

And the guy who killed himself is probally one of the weakest people I've ever heard of.

[Matt Hazuda]

The show is pure comedy gold. Any of these morons that take the bait of a little kid deserves whatever they get. Plus, it saves the taxpayers the expense of a trial if they happen to decide that the shame of their habit being revealed is too much to deal with, so it's a win-win situation for all.

[Draft]

The show is pure comedy gold. Any of these morons that take the bait of a little kid deserves whatever they get. Plus, it saves the taxpayers the expense of a trial if they happen to decide that the shame of their habit being revealed is too much to deal with, so it's a win-win situation for all.

I hate to say it, but i agree

*Watches clips of it on The Soup. Fridays at 10 on E!*[/shamlessplug,butitdeserves it]

But i also hate to say it, should we be suprised..

[tucsoncoyote]

I hate to say it, but i agree

But i also hate to say it, should we be suprised..

Actually I'm not surprised at all except maybe for one episode which they did in Florida where they used the exact same sting.

And in one instance one of these sicko guys brings to the so called "Encounter" his 5 year old son with him..

That's perhaps the most disturbing thing to see.. Having some father who's a sicko bring his own child with him, only to be told by (Chris) Hanson to turn around and leave, and he barely gets 3 paces out of the door with the 5 year old in tow, and he gets jumped by a squad of cops, one of which snatches the kid away from his father, as his dad is cuffed and hauled to a squad car.


I mean how do you explain this to this kid that his dad's a sicko, that he's a bad person, and that now he has no father, all because his dad was sick enough to bring the kid along?

When you think about it, Sure these guys do deserve what they get for playing with fire, but when you involve something like this?

It makes me wonder what the news and these shows will do next to get ratings.. Maybe they'll have some lunatic who wants to commit suicide on TV to get him to pour gas on himself and light a match, all while the cameras are rolling.

But I have to agree, a lot of these guys do deserve what they get.. but when you pull children into the mix.. then it becomes downright dangerous.. Why? Because that father could have used that 5 year old as a human shield and threatened his own child with bodily harm, just so he wouldn't go to jail for his original mistake.

Or as I say.. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.. Because when you see this one clip, it chills you right to the bone.These guys deserve it, but when you put a child in harm's way for ratings, is this show really worth it?

Sure these guys are sickos.. but the real sickos are the ones who would leave a kid scarred for life, having to watch his own father being taken out by a bunch of cops, and then having to live with the shame of knowing his dad was not all there, and as time goes along, his friends and peers pick on him, saying he's just like his dad, a real sicko, and soon the kid becomes a teenager who becomes either depressed or suicidal, and ends up having to take psychological counseling, or medication, or both, just to try and get him over this. But even then that's not the end of it.

and then we jump ahead years later, having that same 5 year old grown up a good man of 21 or 22, and taking his life by suicide, after having to live with the shame and embarassment that his own father was a sicko on national Television, and that his so called peers have marked him just like his father. Unless that 5 year old gets some major counseling, it'll end up that way.. and then let's see the taxpayers pay for the kid's psychological treatment or worse his funeral. Does that make it a win-win situation for the taxpayer then?

So again I say this.. Sure it helps get the sickos off the street, but is it worth the cost of counseling, medication, therapy and mental hospitals to help a scared kid try to figure out what part he played in his father's own shame, even though he was totally blameless?

I think that's something The producers never really thought about when they did this.. But eh, If it's all for ratings.. then they'll do it.. So then, anyone want to hand the 5 year old a gun and tell him to shoot himself in the head?
After all it's all for ratings right?
:coyote:

[Rolling Cloud]

Damn Tuscon, I was gonna point that one out. No problem though, you did it better than I could. XD

anyways, it would be lying if I said that I hated this program, I try to tune in at least a lot of the time it's on.

[M?sterious]

I love that show, Chris Hansen is awesome.

[Gokou Ruri]

I'm just waiting for the day when one of them pulls out a gun and kills Chris Hanson. Bound to happen eventually.

Entrapment is always pretty lame. 40 year olds going after 10 year olds is understandable, but going after college-aged kids for going after high school girls? Please, it happens all over. There's nothing wrong with it, especially when 16 is the age of consent in some states.

[Startrekman700]

That's perhaps the most disturbing thing to see.. Having some father who's a sicko bring his own child with him, only to be told by (Chris) Hanson to turn around and leave, and he barely gets 3 paces out of the door with the 5 year old in tow, and he gets jumped by a squad of cops, one of which snatches the kid away from his father, as his dad is cuffed and hauled to a squad car.

kid did you even see the whole thing..

The did NOT jump out and grab him, they walked SLOWLY towards him and told him to "STOP RIGHT THERE, SIR YOU, LET GO OF THE CHILD" not in a threatening manner. A Female Officer IMMEDIATELY picks up the child in the same way a mother would and shields his eyes so he wouldn't see it and takes him away quickly.

It wasn't an aggressive move against him, because they knew he had the child, they weren't going to do an aggressive takedown so they wouldn't scare the child.

[Desensitized]

I'm just waiting for the day when one of them pulls out a gun and kills Chris Hanson. Bound to happen eventually.
Too bad they won't learn from it. (Not saying I want him shot, I'm just saying they wouldn't learn from the experience.)

These types of shows are beyond stupid.

[Tay the Cat]

You, know, a couple of weeks ago I discovered this show on MSNBC. Basically, people go online and pretend to be 12-14 year olds in order to lure suspects into a home. Once in the home, a decoy posing as the girl tells the suspect to wait a minute and she leaves the room, then this reporter, Chris Hanson, enters the room and interviews them. He doesn't arrest them, he doesn't read them their rights, yet he grills them about their reasons for coming to the house. He then reads them excerpts from the online chats. Finally, Chris Hanson tells them they're free to leave, so they walk out of the house, only to be arrested by police officers.

This show is the most disgusting show I've ever seen. They violate suspects rights' and then exploit them on national television. I'm all for catching pedophiles, but the crap they do on this show is entrapment. Sometimes the online decoy initiates the sex talk. Most of the time they're not actually catching criminals who are predisposed to commit these crimes.

I just read this article that says that someone's sister is suing the show because her brother was set up by the show and blew his brains out when the police and camera crew came to his house:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/28/america/NA-GEN-US-Sex-Predator-Sting.php

Well, that's what happens when you exploit a serious issue for entertainment. I really hope they take this garbage off the air.

They're well within the law to do this, actually.

[Master Moron]

It surprises me just how many pedophiles there seem to be in the US. The show definitely brings it to light. It's quite a sad thing.

Many of these people aren't pedophiles though. If MSNBC wasn't doing these stories they would never have come over to the house of a minor.


I'm just waiting for the day when one of them pulls out a gun and kills Chris Hanson. Bound to happen eventually.

Entrapment is always pretty lame. 40 year olds going after 10 year olds is understandable, but going after college-aged kids for going after high school girls? Please, it happens all over. There's nothing wrong with it, especially when 16 is the age of consent in some states.

Yeah, I mean, if we consider someone having sex with a teenager to be a pedophile, then some of the people I went to college with were pedophiles. Obviously, I don't even think it needs to be said that adults shouldn't have sex with teenagers. But, to label them as pedophiles seems wrong. I mean, there's a big difference between a ten year old and a teenager. Many teenagers are sexually active and many teenagers look like adults. I mean, sometimes the "predators" say that they didn't even notice their age on the chat. It is possible that they really didn't notice their age and thought they were older from looking at their picture. After all, the picture is of a decoy who is over 18. I mean, basically they're using a picture of an 18 year old to entice someone to have sex with a minor. They want to have sex with that 18 year old in the picture, not a little kid.

[Frank Castle]

The show is pure comedy gold. Any of these morons that take the bait of a little kid deserves whatever they get. Plus, it saves the taxpayers the expense of a trial if they happen to decide that the shame of their habit being revealed is too much to deal with, so it's a win-win situation for all.
You are correct sir. Anyone who tries to pick up someone on a non dating site to begin with is an idiot. I have no remorse for the people who end up on the show. One less piece of scum on the street.

[Arxane]

This show is the most disgusting show I've ever seen. They violate suspects rights' and then exploit them on national television. I'm all for catching pedophiles, but the crap they do on this show is entrapment. Sometimes the online decoy initiates the sex talk. Most of the time they're not actually catching criminals who are predisposed to commit these crimes.

The online vigilante group that works with To Catch a Predator, Perverted Justice, has stated many times that PJ'ers do not initiate the conversations, that they always tell the person how "young" the PJ'er is, and that they only allow the alleged pervert to initiate the sexual talk. Entrapment is defined as coaxing someone into doing something they ordinarily would not have done by themselves (like a police officer arresting a prostitute after himself asking her for sex), but after reading many of the chat logs posted on PJ's website, it's pretty clear these men don't need any coaxing to solicit what they think are underage children.

With that said, however, I don't like how sensationalized To Catch a Predator is. When I first saw it, I thought it was a one-shot special, but after realizing it was now a show, I felt very uncomfortable with the show's premise of humiliating the alleged offenders as entertainment. And despite PJ's guidelines, the limelight does open the door for possible abuse, like a PJer being the one asking for sex, thus moving into entrapment territory.

Online predators is a serious danger we as a society need to address, and sitting around the television laughing at alleged pedophiles being grilled by Chris Hansen helps curb the problem about as much as an online petition.

[Robin2099]

[quote=Master Moron;2617008]Many of these people aren't pedophiles though. If MSNBC wasn't doing these stories they would never have come over to the house of a minor./quote]
Wait a sec, so unless I'm mistaken, you think that the people willingly come over to the house, with the intention of being on TV, despite the fact that their lives would be ruined? That makes no sense whatsoever. I honestly have no problem with the show, because if your stupid enough to do what these people do, then they deserve what they get.

[buttah]

None of these people are pedophiles. They're ephebophiles, that said I think these people are at wrong but I don't think they should get as much attention as they do for pretty much doing nothing.

[Master Moron]

They're well within the law to do this, actually.

That's debatable. Here's a good article, though somewhat outdated:

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1163153121972


You are correct sir. Anyone who tries to pick up someone on a non dating site to begin with is an idiot. I have no remorse for the people who end up on the show. One less piece of scum on the street.

Comments like these prove my point. These people have had no trial, no witnesses presented on their behalf, no defense lawyer telling their side of the story. They've had a one sided news story painting them as predators and now they're scum and they deserve to be locked up. How is that justice?


The online vigilante group that works with To Catch a Predator, Perverted Justice, has stated many times that PJ'ers do not initiate the conversations, that they always tell the person how "young" the PJ'er is, and that they only allow the alleged pervert to initiate the sexual talk.


That's not true. While it's true that the PJ'ers don't initiate the conversation, they do initiate the sex talk. Straight from the horses mouth: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11131562/


In many cases, the decoy is the first to bring up the subject of sex.


Wait a sec, so unless I'm mistaken, you think that the people willingly come over to the house, with the intention of being on TV, despite the fact that their lives would be ruined? That makes no sense whatsoever. I honestly have no problem with the show, because if your stupid enough to do what these people do, then they deserve what they get.

I said nothing of the sort. I said if NBC didn't do this story then they wouldn't have come over to the house of a minor to have sex with them. Think about it, first they'd need to find a minor who they're attracted to. And I don't think they're going to find too many 14 year olds who look like the over 18 decoy they use. Second, that minor needs to want to have sex with an adult. Now, okay, I can maybe see a teenager being interested in the twenty year olds, but why on earth would a teenager want to invite a 30 or 40 year old to her house to have sex with her? Most teenagers know plenty of guys at school who would be willing to have sex with them, especially teenagers who look like they're over 18. If this sting operation never occurred, it is very unlikely that these "predators" would ever have an opportunity to have sex with a teenager.

[Freedom Fighter]

I'm surprised they made a series out of the series of features for Dateline. I mean, aren't we yet at the point where everyone have seen at least one or two of these and common logic says 'if you try to pick up underage children online, you're going to be arrested on national TV whilst trying to meet them?'

Heck, I think the only one of these I've actually watched, and that was on a curious whim, was the guy who walked in, saw Hansen come in, realized what show he's on and he's about to get arrested, and then tries to casually walk back out. :sweat: I found that mildly hilarious.

(Sadly, I know that'll never be the case, since some predators don't have a TV, don't watch any TV, or are so stupid they think 'hey, that'll never happen to me.' Shoot, I'm surprised we don't have state- or county-specific 'To Catch a Predator' shows at this point.

Which would be even more saddening, now that I think about it.)

[Frank Castle]

Comments like these prove my point. These people have had no trial, no witnesses presented on their behalf, no defense lawyer telling their side of the story. They've had a one sided news story painting them as predators and now they're scum and they deserve to be locked up. How is that justice?

Actually they have about a whole nation of witnesses that see them trespass on private property in order to supposedly have sex with underage kids. They are arrested shortly after and are subjected to a trial. If they plead guilty, there will only be a sentencing without trial but if they plead innocent, a lawyer is provided if they cannot afford their own. Do your research before you say these pieces of crap don't get treated fairly.

It's simply a new age of catching criminals, the media is constantly evolving and this is just another example of it's evolution.

[Tapout]

Most of the time the decoy is said to be 14. If anybody, with the possible exception of another 14-year-old, doesn't move on to someone else after hearing that they deserve whatever they get.

[RedKnight]

These people have had no trial, no witnesses presented on their behalf, no defense lawyer telling their side of the story.

Well, no one is being convicted because of To Catch A Predator. I'm sure all claims and accusations made will have to hold up in a subsequent trial. I believe it's fair to assume that adult males who agree to secret dates with minors they met online probably don't have the purest intentions, though...

Should this be on TV? No. At least not for entertainment purposes. Still, the show might serve to scare off a few predators, and if others are caught before they cross the line and get the chance to do harm, -- good.

[Wussycat]

Do they only go after the male paedophiles?

[maczero]

Now, okay, I can maybe see a teenager being interested in the twenty year olds, but why on earth would a teenager want to invite a 30 or 40 year old to her house to have sex with her? Most teenagers know plenty of guys at school who would be willing to have sex with them, especially teenagers who look like they're over 18. If this sting operation never occurred, it is very unlikely that these "predators" would ever have an opportunity to have sex with a teenager.Saying most teenagers wouldn't be attracted to a much older man doesn't really address the problem. Obviously some are and there are men willing to take advantage of that attraction. If there weren't, online predators wouldn't be an issue in the media at all.


Actually they have about a whole nation of witnesses that see them trespass on private property in order to supposedly have sex with underage kids.I don't watch the show but don't the suspects get invited to the home? How is that trespassing?

Like I said, I don't watch the show and feel dirty for even wanting to watch it. However, I guess some good can come out of it. Maybe it puts a little fear in guys contemplating something like this. At the very least, it's a warning to parents to pay a little more attention to what their kids are doing online.

Also, is the bait always a young girl? Do they ever use guys?

[RedKnight]

Do they only go after the male paedophiles?

Don't suppose so. It's just that most pedophiles, sadly, are male.


Many of these people aren't pedophiles though. If MSNBC wasn't doing these stories they would never have come over to the house of a minor.

Bull. I just watched two random clips from the show on YouTube, and already I have come across four guys who claimed to have "played around" with minors before.

[Frank Castle]

I don't watch the show but don't the suspects get invited to the home? How is that trespassing?

Yeah trespassing was the wrong word for it, however, considering it was only the minor that supposedly invited the stranger into the home, that doesn't make it any better than trespassing.

[Wussycat]

I just read this article about why they don't have any female predators.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15157004/

[Frank Castle]

I just read this article about why they don't have any female predators.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15157004/

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing the article. It's nice to see that people are getting help because of the show according to the end of the article. It really shows that the show is making a difference.

[Robin2099]

Comments like these prove my point. These people have had no trial, no witnesses presented on their behalf, no defense lawyer telling their side of the story. They've had a one sided news story painting them as predators and now they're scum and they deserve to be locked up. How is that justice?Except that who knows how many people were actually convicted thanks to this show. This show is more of a warning tool to people then a full tool for convictions. And it works, would you be happy knowing that your neighbor was appearing on to catch a predator if you had a 14 year old daughter next door to him?




That's not true. While it's true that the PJ'ers don't initiate the conversation, they do initiate the sex talk. Straight from the horses mouth: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11131562/Which makes them morons for not ending the conversation. I was online one time reading my AOL e-mail when someone saying she was a 14 year old girl IM'd me and started talking to me. Eventually she started talking about sex and saying a lot of dirty things to make her sound like a tramp. What did I do? I blocked her from IM'ing me. What do they do? Keep talking to her and then agree to meet her for sex.






I said nothing of the sort. I said if NBC didn't do this story then they wouldn't have come over to the house of a minor to have sex with them. Think about it, first they'd need to find a minor who they're attracted to. And I don't think they're going to find too many 14 year olds who look like the over 18 decoy they use. Second, that minor needs to want to have sex with an adult. Now, okay, I can maybe see a teenager being interested in the twenty year olds, but why on earth would a teenager want to invite a 30 or 40 year old to her house to have sex with her? Most teenagers know plenty of guys at school who would be willing to have sex with them, especially teenagers who look like they're over 18. If this sting operation never occurred, it is very unlikely that these "predators" would ever have an opportunity to have sex with a teenager.

Hate to break it to you, but stuff like that does happen all the time. You can blame the show for this as much as you want, but coming from someone who's a law student and reads about this all the time, it happens more then you think. The sad truth is that these people know full well what their doing.

[sdp]

Perverted Justice is known for their devious ways.

The show is done for entertainment as most cases are not even prosecuted since they won't hold up in court.

[Harley_Quinn]

The show is done for entertainment as most cases are not even prosecuted since they won't hold up in court.
You know that for a fact, I think they do a very good job of covering their bases in terms of evidence and I doubt any judge is going to have any sympathy for these guys.

You can argue whether this should be televised or not but as far as I'm concerned there is no middle ground in terms of these guys actions. They engaged in an expicit conversation with an underaged person and then, in some cases drive very long distances, go to said persons house. As far as I'm concerned if they are catching these guys, most seem to have done this more than a few times, and keeping them from hurting real children then I have no issue with the show at all.

[Tay the Cat]

Perverted Justice is known for their devious ways.

The show is done for entertainment as most cases are not even prosecuted since they won't hold up in court.
You obviously don't know what goes down, then.

Every case is taken seriously by the judges that handle them.

[SonGoku V3]

Which makes them morons for not ending the conversation. I was online one time reading my AOL e-mail when someone saying she was a 14 year old girl IM'd me and started talking to me. Eventually she started talking about sex and saying a lot of dirty things to make her sound like a tramp. What did I do? I blocked her from IM'ing me. What do they do? Keep talking to her and then agree to meet her for sex.
Assuming that wasn't really a 14 year old IM'ing you and was some undercover decoy (maybe even from PJ), wouldn't that be entrapment? It would be one thing if the "predators" initiated the sexual conversation, but how does it hold up in court when it is the decoys initiating the illegal activity and them inviting them onto the property?

I know from past viewing of the show that some of these offenders DO have criminal records, but still, something has got to be off with the WAY PJ is going about luring these guys in general.

[Havok]

I get the idea that they put the decoy out there in the same mannner we all put bait on the line for the fish. And anything after that is the pedo biting, being reeled in, and then regretting their own stupidity. I never remember them pushing for the decoy to initiate personal contact.

[Master Moron]

Actually they have about a whole nation of witnesses that see them trespass on private property in order to supposedly have sex with underage kids. They are arrested shortly after and are subjected to a trial. If they plead guilty, there will only be a sentencing without trial but if they plead innocent, a lawyer is provided if they cannot afford their own. Do your research before you say these pieces of crap don't get treated fairly.


Did you even read the article I posted? And thank you for once again proving my point by calling them "pieces of crap" before they've had a trial.


Well, no one is being convicted because of To Catch A Predator. I'm sure all claims and accusations made will have to hold up in a subsequent trial. I believe it's fair to assume that adult males who agree to secret dates with minors they met online probably don't have the purest intentions, though...


Yes, but good luck finding a jury who's not biased. As demonstrated by this thread, people hear the name of the show and immediately dismiss the suspects as "pieces of crap".


Saying most teenagers wouldn't be attracted to a much older man doesn't really address the problem. Obviously some are and there are men willing to take advantage of that attraction. If there weren't, online predators wouldn't be an issue in the media at all.

I thought the reason online predators was an issue in the media was that people were meeting little kids online, not teenagers. That's what's scary to me. Someone meeting an 8 year old online, then kidnapping them and molesting them, or worse. To be honest, when I first heard of the series I thought it was a great idea. I thought they were catching predators who were trying to hurt little kids. But, they're just targeting people who want to meet teenagers. I'm sorry, but I really don't think that's a serious issue at all. When I was in Middle School there were lots of girls who were sexually active, and many of those girls slept with older guys. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that it happens, and there's way more important issues out there.


Also, is the bait always a young girl? Do they ever use guys?

I've seen one or two episodes where the suspects want to meet a guy. I think they use a female decoy who tries to sound like a boy.

[Frank Castle]

Did you even read the article I posted? And thank you for once again proving my point by calling them "pieces of crap" before they've had a trial.

I didn't prove a damn thing in your favor. The fact of the matter is if they go over to the house and have all those "gifts" with them, chances are they're one of the lowest forms of life on earth. It's a damn shame you can't see that.

[Master Moron]

I didn't prove a damn thing in your favor. The fact of the matter is if they go over to the house and have all those "gifts" with them, chances are they're one of the lowest forms of life on earth. It's a damn shame you can't see that.

Different cases have different facts. Some brought condoms, others brought Big Macs. You're generalizing that anyone on To Catch A Predator is probably one of the lowest forms of life on earth. How are they supposed to get a fair trial if everyone on the jury thinks they are one of the lowest forms of life on earth regardless of the facts of their case?


Except that who knows how many people were actually convicted thanks to this show. This show is more of a warning tool to people then a full tool for convictions. And it works, would you be happy knowing that your neighbor was appearing on to catch a predator if you had a 14 year old daughter next door to him?


I probably wouldn't like it. But, I also probably wouldn't like that hot 14 year old boy who's sexually active living next door either.

[Frank Castle]

Different cases have different facts. Some brought condoms, others brought Big Macs. You're generalizing that anyone on To Catch A Predator is probably one of the lowest forms of life on earth. How are they supposed to get a fair trial if everyone on the jury thinks they are one of the lowest forms of life on earth regardless of the facts of their case?

Is there anything such as a fair trial in this country? Every jury is bias. Everyone is bias against something and have their own predetermined verdicts more often than not because they would love nothing more than to get out of jury duty. Do I expect those guys to get a fair trial? No. Do I care? No. They're at the house and on camera, and quite frankly that's all the evidence I need. So whatever say you want to about fair this and fair that but it all boils down to the fact that each and every suspect on the show put toward effort to meet a person who was underage.

I'm sure they just wanted to talk and play videogames. Yeah right.

[Master Moron]

Hate to break it to you, but stuff like that does happen all the time. You can blame the show for this as much as you want, but coming from someone who's a law student and reads about this all the time, it happens more then you think. The sad truth is that these people know full well what their doing.

What class was this in? I'm sure there are some 14 year olds who meet guys online, but I'm not sure the facts of those cases match the situations on To Catch a Predator. I'm sure some of the people on this show are sexual predators, but I don't believe they all are. I believe there are some people who have been on this show who would not have committed the crime if the show did not exist.

[Tay the Cat]

I believe there are some people who have been on this show who would not have committed the crime if the show did not exist.
If people are that stupid, they deserve the most brutal form of humiliation legally possible.

[Havok]

I'm pretty sure the decoys aren't designed as teenagers.

[Bird Boy]

This thread's done. Next time you guys get into an argument, try to play friendlier.

-BB