PDA

View Full Version : Out Of Jimmy's Head



marcnbrian
08-10-2007, 10:30 PM
I like the new promos. The show looks better than REANIMATED. Faster and funnier than I remember the movie being. They seem to have gotten rid of the chinese kids and brought in new cast and the animated characters look different too. This might actually be good!
What do you think?

Rolling Cloud
08-10-2007, 10:36 PM
My opinion is that it looks sucky. :sweat:

EDIT: anybody notice that there's a line that kids won't understand?
"I got worms" "Sweet!"

That's a little hard to explain /:

veemonjosh
08-10-2007, 10:38 PM
What do you think?

I think you just lost all respect from this board.

Swag Jenkins
08-10-2007, 10:42 PM
I think you just lost all respect from this board.

And the question at hand is what do you think of the show, not whether or not he lost respect on this board.

marcnbrian
08-10-2007, 10:42 PM
Because I'm not all kinds of pissed off that Cartoon Network's trying something new or because I think the promo makes the show look decent? Sorry....the little black kid is funny and there are some good gags. Maybe they have talented promo producers--or maybe, just maybe, the show might not be awful.

dmxx116
08-10-2007, 11:57 PM
I seen the movie last year and this show is going to suck big time (IMO).

buttah
08-11-2007, 12:52 AM
Because I'm not all kinds of pissed off that Cartoon Network's trying something new
No problem with anything new just the fact that Reanimated sucked and the fact they're having live action on Cartoon Network.

danreyes1
08-11-2007, 12:57 AM
Count me in the "do not want" bandwagon. The show itself I don't really care for. But the whole Live Action on Cartoon Network thing is, to me, a big issue. If it were on Nickelodeon or Disney Channel, which already are filled with mediocre live action kid shows, I don't think people would be complaining about it quite as much.

RockmanDash
08-11-2007, 03:47 AM
Out of jimmys head= not worth watching for me. Live action+Cartoonnetwork=badddd

Antiyonder
08-11-2007, 04:14 AM
Have to see the promo a few more times to decide.

Toon Disney maybe have done the live action bit first, but Cartoon Network is being hypocritical in doing so themselves. What are they always telling their viewers? Get Animated!

Kazuya Prower
08-11-2007, 04:40 AM
This is just what we need....A series based off a movie featuring a ripoff of Walt Disney and his characters.

dmxx116
08-11-2007, 05:10 AM
This is just what we need....A series based off a movie featuring a ripoff of Walt Disney and his characters. Like i said before this show is going to suck big time. And will set a new low for cartoon network.

Kurokawa41
08-11-2007, 05:54 AM
It shall suck.

kewlmyc
08-11-2007, 10:52 AM
Like i said before this show is going to suck big time. And will set a new low for cartoon network.

Even lower than Fried Dynamite?

Dudley
08-11-2007, 11:34 AM
After seeing commercials of Fried Dynamite, the live-action Ben 10 movie, and this, Cartoon Network's never looked so much like Nickelodeon.
I'm still going to check this out, to see if it's any better than the movie.

RomanMack
08-11-2007, 11:36 AM
What do you think?I think it's going to be utter and pure garbage.

Pomegranate
08-11-2007, 12:36 PM
What do you think?

:shrug: I completely hate it! Also, CN should just immediately re-brand themselves as "Turner Family" and stop freak'n posing as a 24/7 animation network this instant, because they're not a real animation network anymore!:shrug:

Don_East
08-11-2007, 02:37 PM
This is just what we need....A series based off a movie featuring a ripoff of Walt Disney and his characters.
And looking like a rip-off of Ned's Declassied Guide Of School Survival no less. Jeff, what ever happened to your proposed new CN logo? It sure would fit this.

Dr.Pepper
08-11-2007, 02:42 PM
Count me in the "do not want" bandwagon. The show itself I don't really care for. But the whole Live Action on Cartoon Network thing is, to me, a big issue. If it were on Nickelodeon or Disney Channel, which already are filled with mediocre live action kid shows, I don't think people would be complaining about it quite as much.
I agree with you all the way. I'm sure that if it was on Nick or Disney I still would not care for it, but it being on CN makes me hate it.

Matt Hazuda
08-11-2007, 02:57 PM
The show's promo got boos at Comic-Con at a Cartoon Network panel. A panel that was made up of probably 40-50% little kids were booing this show. I don't think it'll be lasting to long if that's any indication of things.

macattack
08-11-2007, 02:58 PM
To be frank, it actually looks worse than Re-Animated.

Antiyonder
08-11-2007, 03:08 PM
The show's promo got boos at Comic-Con at a Cartoon Network panel. A panel that was made up of probably 40-50% little kids were booing this show. I don't think it'll be lasting to long if that's any indication of things.

Know the execs, if the show does failing in ratings, they'll probably figure that the animated characters are the cause and try for a full fledged live action show.

Nexonius
08-11-2007, 03:23 PM
It won't happen, Antiyonder. If it's canceled, everybody that hates the show will be happy.

Ykwia
08-11-2007, 03:31 PM
Yeah, It looks like this show will never make it through it's first season.

macattack
08-11-2007, 04:10 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that it'll last as long as Wulin Warriors.

dmxx116
08-11-2007, 04:29 PM
Even lower than Fried Dynamite?Yep same thing so.

Kevin
08-11-2007, 04:35 PM
Ugh! Bad enough Re-Animated was bad, but the make a series out of it is even worse! Meh, I'll watch an episode or two of this series, but I don't have my hopes up.

Lavenderpaw
08-11-2007, 05:01 PM
The show's promo got boos at Comic-Con at a Cartoon Network panel. A panel that was made up of probably 40-50% little kids were booing this show. I don't think it'll be lasting to long if that's any indication of things.

Oh,those poor children.:sweat: It's bad enough their subjected to sugar-sweet tweeny bopper crud but they had to be tortured by this.I mean,if the little kids seem to know how bad it is but that doesn't stop the show,does it?

Swag Jenkins
08-11-2007, 07:15 PM
With the newest promos, CN is saying it's their first "live-action original show." They're not even mentioning the animation at all.

veemonjosh
08-11-2007, 07:20 PM
And the question at hand is what do you think of the show, not whether or not he lost respect on this board.

Ok, fine.

What I meant to say was that I think this show is going to be horrible.


The show's promo got boos at Comic-Con at a Cartoon Network panel. A panel that was made up of probably 40-50% little kids were booing this show. I don't think it'll be lasting to long if that's any indication of things.

There's some hope for this generation yet.

marcnbrian
08-11-2007, 08:48 PM
I was at Comiccon too....the crowd was there for a Billy & Mandy/Fosters panel and was hardly 45-50% kids....it was 10% if that....and they also boo-ed Chowder, so guess they just hate everything.....live or not....

pimp818
08-12-2007, 09:12 PM
To tell you the truth Re-animated was ok if best and i don't like the idea of something live-action on cartoonetwork and if most people feel the same way it will get canceled just like the other live/cartoonish show .

PC!
08-12-2007, 10:24 PM
"Cartoon Network's first live-action original series!"

That line is just...so wrong. Do they even listen to what they're saying? They're actually proud of themselves for going against what their network is known for.

veemonjosh
08-12-2007, 10:34 PM
Cartoon Network's first live-action original series!

Hey Cartoon Nothing....

THERE'S A PERFECTLY GOOD REASON WHY IT'S YOUR FIRST LIVE-ACTION SERIES.

limel
08-13-2007, 05:15 PM
"Cartoon Network's first live-action original series!"

Funny how the first two words contradict with the rest. :p

Draft
08-13-2007, 05:48 PM
So actual date

September 14th at 7:00PM

Jeezums, They have so much faith they won't give it a boost from Foster's and such? I Really hope that God will answer our prayers

Dr.Pepper
08-13-2007, 11:38 PM
"Cartoon Network's first live-action original series!"
I feel sick to my stomach

Xerroo
08-14-2007, 12:19 PM
This is going to fail. FAIL. FAIL. Fail....

Kurokawa41
08-14-2007, 04:47 PM
So a bunch of little kids boo'd this at Comic-Con? Wow... hahah. That's awesome.

Railith
08-14-2007, 05:38 PM
The movie sucked and the show will too.

Kitschensyngk
08-14-2007, 06:54 PM
What do you think?

I think it'd be better off on the Disney Channel.

Lavenderpaw
08-14-2007, 11:03 PM
So a bunch of little kids boo'd this at Comic-Con? Wow... hahah. That's awesome.

Not surprising.Kids have taste after all. :D

Kurokawa41
08-14-2007, 11:17 PM
Not surprising.Kids have taste after all. :D

Even kids my age have no taste.

hobbyfan
08-14-2007, 11:37 PM
We're all getting our dander raised by Cartoon Network's latest insult to the intelligence, but the truth of the matter is, the morons there are realizing that a live-action sitcom does pull in ratings for their rivals (Disney & Nick), so they've decided that after nearly 2 years of experimenting with live-action movies on the schedule, more than half of them having nothing to do with cartoons on the roster, they've greenlighted "Out of Jimmy's Head". The only known commodity in the cast that I know of is Bil Dwyer, who's better known for game shows on GSN & Ion (formerly Pax), and before that was a ESPN guy. Also contributes to VH1's various specials. However, it doesn't belong on CN, animation aside. It should be on TBS, which is rebranded as being heavy on comedy anyway.

This is, again, all about corporate synergy among the Turner nets.

danreyes1
08-15-2007, 12:47 AM
You know, instead of creating live action shows with a little animation to justify it being on the network in their eyes to take the ratings away from Disney and Nick, I think they should start focusing on why their current cartoons aren't succeeding as well as they'd like.

Antiyonder
08-15-2007, 03:35 AM
We're all getting our dander raised by Cartoon Network's latest insult to the intelligence, but the truth of the matter is, the morons there are realizing that a live-action sitcom does pull in ratings for their rivals (Disney & Nick), so they've decided that after nearly 2 years of experimenting with live-action movies on the schedule, more than half of them having nothing to do with cartoons on the roster, they've greenlighted "Out of Jimmy's Head". The only known commodity in the cast that I know of is Bil Dwyer, who's better known for game shows on GSN & Ion (formerly Pax), and before that was a ESPN guy. Also contributes to VH1's various specials. However, it doesn't belong on CN, animation aside. It should be on TBS, which is rebranded as being heavy on comedy anyway.

Except that the show has received some criticisim, and from the age group that matters no less. I've no doubt that kids enjoy live action sitcoms. The way I see it, however, is that they watch Disney Channel and Nickelodeon to get their sitcom fill, and they watch Cartoon Network to balance it a heavy load of cartoons.


You know, instead of creating live action shows with a little animation to justify it being on the network in their eyes to take the ratings away from Disney and Nick, I think they should start focusing on why their current cartoons aren't succeeding as well as they'd like.

Which is the point I was looking to make, though I'm not sure what you had in mind. My belief on why the current cartoons haven't performed as well as Nick or Disney's show, is lack of variety.

Even when Cartoon Network lightened up on the classic programs, they still had differents variety of toons in terms of genre. With Toonami being nothing more than Saturday Evenings, pretty much all non-Adult Swim programming are animated sitcoms. While Nick may not have as much on the new toon front at the moment, at least their current ones (Spongebob Squarepants, Avatar and Fairly Oddparents) each have a different setting. If the network is suppose to be 24 hours of Cartoons, then you need to embrace the concept by having them all in different settings (Not just in school or camp).

You might say that Cartoon Network copying Nick for the sake of profiting and ratings is smart, but no. Imagine if Disney Comics were the definate sellers and Marvel or DC tried to make their characters more Disneylike.

Kitschensyngk
08-15-2007, 07:41 PM
I was just now reminded of the episode of Foster's when Mac tries to become one of the cool kids. At the end of the episode he delivers this big sermon about how the only thing you need to do to be cool is to be yourself.

And yet the very channel it aired on is taking after Nickelodeon and Disney Channel in an attempt to appeal to younger viewers.

Irony, thy name is Cartoon Network.

Antiyonder
08-15-2007, 07:56 PM
I was just now reminded of the episode of Foster's when Mac tries to become one of the cool kids. At the end of the episode he delivers this big sermon about how the only thing you need to do to be cool is to be yourself.

And yet the very channel it aired on is taking after Nickelodeon and Disney Channel in an attempt to appeal to younger viewers.

Irony, thy name is Cartoon Network.

On a similar note, A few episodes of American Dragon state that you can't get through life with shortcuts, yet that's pretty much how the Disney Channel operates.

You have to wonder if these morals are being taught to the viewers or the networks.

danreyes1
08-16-2007, 12:29 AM
Which is the point I was looking to make, though I'm not sure what you had in mind. My belief on why the current cartoons haven't performed as well as Nick or Disney's show, is lack of variety.

My other main complaint about Cartoon Network, actually. They have what, 25 shows in all? About half of them play once a week, or ridiculously early in the morning. The other half are played in endless marathons per day. They have a huge library that they can show, but simply don't.

Ykwia
08-16-2007, 03:02 AM
Yeah, This insult to intelligence should be on G4 instead of Cartoon Network.

Antiyonder
08-16-2007, 06:41 PM
My other main complaint about Cartoon Network, actually. They have what, 25 shows in all? About half of them play once a week, or ridiculously early in the morning. The other half are played in endless marathons per day. They have a huge library that they can show, but simply don't.

Just for referencing purposes, what 25 cartoons do they still keep on the network?

So far I and some other posters came up with in another thread:
Ed Edd and Eddy
The Grim Adventures Of Billy And Mandy
Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends
Kids Next Door
Camp Lazlo
My Gym Partner's A Gym Monkey
Xiaolin Showdown
Ben 10
Teen Titans
Code Lyoko
Pokemon: Diamond And Pearl
Dragon Ball Z
Naruto
Storm Hawks
Yu-Gi-Oh GX
BoBoBo-Bo-Bo-BoBo
Transformers Cybertron
Idaten Jump
One Piece
.hack//ROOTS

As well as:
Scooby Doo (Marathon yes, but they were still willing to air it.)
Tom & Jerry
Totally Spies
The Land Before Time

Then of course the older Pokemon episodes.

Dudley
08-16-2007, 09:05 PM
You listed One Piece twice.
But still, I don't watch every network, but do networks usually air that any shows? That's not a lot.
Oh, that makes the list 24.

Antiyonder
08-16-2007, 09:32 PM
You listed One Piece twice.
But still, I don't watch every network, but do networks usually air that any shows? That's not a lot.
Oh, that makes the list 24.

One Piece is part of Toonami I believe. Hence lack of airtime. At the very least, I don't see why Dragonball Z doesn't get more airtime outside Toonami. Even if you ignore the Uncut episodes, there are around at least 270 episode. It would take a longtime for that many episodes to grow stale. And like Naruto, it makes for a good bridge between Cartoon Network and Adult Swim.

But again that's part of the problem of the management of any show on the network. They air a program to death when it's at 26 episodes, then when it has a good 65 and over episode count they rarely air it at all. Doing the reverse would make much more sense. Air a show on weekends only when it's 13-26 episodes, extend it to Friday when it acquires 39 episode and then when it's at 52-65 episodes Monday-Friday. Any higher than merits a full 7 day airing.

Darklordavaitor
08-16-2007, 09:37 PM
Anything I can say has already been said here. Oh wait, how popular was this train wreck of a movie, anyway?

veemonjosh
08-16-2007, 11:03 PM
Anything I can say has already been said here. Oh wait, how popular was this train wreck of a movie, anyway?

They were paying money to people who watched the fourth rerun through a contest.

What does that tell you about the movie's popularity?

Darklordavaitor
08-16-2007, 11:12 PM
They were paying money to people who watched the fourth rerun through a contest.

What does that tell you about the movie's popularity?
Yet they wasted money on a TV series for it? Who got ripped off there?

CheezNapkin
08-16-2007, 11:54 PM
Looks kinda crappy but i'll tune in anyway.

Kazuya Prower
08-17-2007, 01:12 AM
They aren't gonna pass first season.

danreyes1
08-17-2007, 01:49 AM
Just for referencing purposes, what 25 cartoons do they still keep on the network?

Really, that was just a vague number that it felt like. Doing the research, I find:

* Ben 10
* Camp Lazlo
* Class of 3000
* Code Lyoko
* Codename: Kids Next Door
* Courage the Cowardly Dog
* Ed, Edd n Eddy
* Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
* The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
* The Land Before Time
* My Gym Partner's a Monkey
* Squirrel Boy
* Storm Hawks
* Transformers Cybertron
* Xiaolin Showdown
* Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
* Dragon Ball Z
* Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes
* Naruto
* One Piece
* Pokémon
* Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
* Teen Titans

That's 23. I was generous, apparently. How many do they list on their site? 96. More if you count The various iterations of Pokemon as separate (I counted them all as one for this) As I said before, Cartoon Network should really try to figure out why 23 cartoons, at least 8 of which being played once a week, aren't pulling in the desired ratings (might be because they're trying to fill a regular 17 hour day with only 15 half hour shows?) rather than go against everything they stand for by creating a live-action show.

Antiyonder
08-17-2007, 02:06 AM
That's 23. I was generous, apparently. How many do they list on their site? 96. More if you count The various iterations of Pokemon as separate (I counted them all as one for this) As I said before, Cartoon Network should really try to figure out why 23 cartoons, at least 8 of which being played once a week, aren't pulling in the desired ratings (might be because they're trying to fill a regular 17 hour day with only 15 half hour shows?) rather than go against everything they stand for by creating a live-action show.

Aside from variety, the network also needs to lower their expectations when hoping for success. In a thread I posted in The General Animation, it was stated that Ed Edd and Eddy while successful enough to get renewed past Season One wasn't as big a hit as the other Cartoon Cartoon programs.

As Blackstar would put it, had the show premiered today with the same results as in the 90s, the execs would cancel it without hesitation. A show becoming a hit overnight is a good thing, but expecting all shows to achieve the same thing will result in more disappointments.

dmxx116
08-17-2007, 02:28 AM
Really, that was just a vague number that it felt like. Doing the research, I find:

* Ben 10
* Camp Lazlo
* Class of 3000
* Code Lyoko
* Codename: Kids Next Door
* Courage the Cowardly Dog
* Ed, Edd n Eddy
* Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
* The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
* The Land Before Time
* My Gym Partner's a Monkey
* Squirrel Boy
* Storm Hawks
* Transformers Cybertron
* Xiaolin Showdown
* Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
* Dragon Ball Z
* Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes
* Naruto
* One Piece
* Pokémon
* Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
* Teen Titans

That's 23. I was generous, apparently. How many do they list on their site? 96. More if you count The various iterations of Pokemon as separate (I counted them all as one for this) As I said before, Cartoon Network should really try to figure out why 23 cartoons, at least 8 of which being played once a week, aren't pulling in the desired ratings (might be because they're trying to fill a regular 17 hour day with only 15 half hour shows?) rather than go against everything they stand for by creating a live-action show.
This is why cartoon network suck right now for making dumb moves like this.

danreyes1
08-17-2007, 02:32 AM
As Blackstar would put it, had the show premiered today with the same results as in the 90s, the execs would cancel it without hesitation. A show becoming a hit overnight is a good thing, but expecting all shows to achieve the same thing will result in more disappointments.

Which means Out Of Jimmy's Head will be a tremendous disappointment to them :shrug:

Antiyonder
08-17-2007, 02:56 AM
Which means Out Of Jimmy's Head will be a tremendous disappointment to them :shrug:

Probably, because at least EEE obviously had enough support to go on, OOJH seems to be doomed from the start. Makes me wonder if the show is due to the execs having biased feelings towards cartoons in general.

Dead_Ninja_111
08-17-2007, 06:01 AM
And looking like a rip-off of Ned's Declassied Guide Of School Survival no less. Jeff, what ever happened to your proposed new CN logo? It sure would fit this.

Exactly what I was thinking with the whole rip off thing, haven't seen an episode of it yet, but if it's anything like the movie, which I couldn't stand watching at all, all the way through, then that's it for me.

Antiyonder
08-17-2007, 06:28 AM
Exactly what I was thinking with the whole rip off thing, haven't seen an episode of it yet, but if it's anything like the movie, which I couldn't stand watching at all, all the way through, then that's it for me.

I was expecting someone to draw (pun not intended) similarities to Lizzie McGuire. Sitcom with a hint of animation.

marcnbrian
08-17-2007, 09:19 AM
Probably, because at least EEE obviously had enough support to go on, OOJH seems to be doomed from the start. Makes me wonder if the show is due to the execs having biased feelings towards cartoons in general.


:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Why is it doomed? Because a handful of 20-something year olds on a chatroom who haven't seen it already hate it? Seems to me this same crowd deemed Camp Lazlo a disaster and it's one of the few successes CN has had in recent years.

Antiyonder
08-17-2007, 10:00 AM
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Why is it doomed? Because a handful of 20-something year olds on a chatroom who haven't seen it already hate it? Seems to me this same crowd deemed Camp Lazlo a disaster and it's one of the few successes CN has had in recent years.

I was refering to your earlier post, in which some kids booed at the show. Did Camp Lazlo get the same reaction?


Because I'm not all kinds of pissed off that Cartoon Network's trying something new or because I think the promo makes the show look decent?

Considering the majority of the non-Toonami toons are more like sitcoms than cartoons, the whole trying something new doesn't hold water. And heck, the whole live action sitcom with a cartoon character has been doen with Lizzie McGuire. If they want to try something new, ditch the school setting.

Andrew T. Hingson
08-17-2007, 10:18 AM
Okay so Jimmy's friend and his sister (who Jimmy likes) were asian in the movie and now... they're not. Am I the only one who noticed this?

90'sCartoonMan
08-17-2007, 11:13 AM
But again that's part of the problem of the management of any show on the network. They air a program to death when it's at 26 episodes, then when it has a good 65 and over episode count they rarely air it at all. Doing the reverse would make much more sense. Air a show on weekends only when it's 13-26 episodes, extend it to Friday when it acquires 39 episode and then when it's at 52-65 episodes Monday-Friday. Any higher than merits a full 7 day airing.

That'd be a pretty good strategy. I'm surprised they're still airing Teen Titans, actually, since it ended a year and a half ago.



As Blackstar would put it, had the show premiered today with the same results as in the 90s, the execs would cancel it without hesitation. A show becoming a hit overnight is a good thing, but expecting all shows to achieve the same thing will result in more disappointments.

Sounds like they're following the trend of the main networks (particularly Fox).

Anthony C.
08-17-2007, 12:24 PM
Know the execs, if the show does failing in ratings, they'll probably figure that the animated characters are the cause and try for a full fledged live action show.

Sadly, I think they will actually do this.

Anthony C.
08-17-2007, 12:30 PM
You know, instead of creating live action shows with a little animation to justify it being on the network in their eyes to take the ratings away from Disney and Nick, I think they should start focusing on why their current cartoons aren't succeeding as well as they'd like.

That's too much hard work. The problem is that Cartoon Network is being guided by management who really don't care about animation as an aesthetic. This is true since Cohen got ousted and her subordinates quit in resignation. That is why they switched to showing live action stuff in the first place-they didn't know how to make a good cartoon in the first place and they blamed it all on the medium instead of looking at their poor choice in programming. They also refused to understand that Cartoon Network's core audience is an entirely different demographic than Nickelodeon and Disney Channel (read: teenagers and adults with a huge emphasis on Males). If they cared about Animation in the first place they would have spent time making worthwhile animated programming and not switch to live action in the first place.

Anthony C.
08-17-2007, 12:31 PM
That's too much hard work. The problem is that Cartoon Network is being guided by management who really don't care about animation as an aesthetic. This is true since Cohen got ousted and her subordinates quit in resignation. That is why they switched to showing live action stuff in the first place-they didn't know how to make a good cartoon in the first place and they blamed it all on the medium instead of looking at their poor choice in programming. They also refused to understand that Cartoon Network's core audience is an entirely different demographic than Nickelodeon and Disney Channel (read: teenagers and adults with a huge emphasis on Males). If they cared about Animation in the first place they would have spent time making worthwhile animated programming and not switch to live action in the first place.


BTW, I wonder will we see a "Death of WCW" type book about Cartoon Network's decline. I know the book would be just as funny as "Death of WCW".

Antiyonder
08-17-2007, 12:35 PM
That's too much hard work. The problem is that Cartoon Network is being guided by management who really don't care about animation as an aesthetic. This is true since Cohen got ousted and her subordinates quit in resignation. That is why they switched to showing live action stuff in the first place-they didn't know how to make a good cartoon in the first place and they blamed it all on the medium instead of looking at their poor choice in programming. They also refused to understand that Cartoon Network's core audience is an entirely different demographic than Nickelodeon and Disney Channel (read: teenagers and adults with a huge emphasis on Males). If they cared about Animation in the first place they would have spent time making worthwhile animated programming and not switch to live action in the first place.

So why did they chose Cartoon Network when there are other networks to suit their needs? MTV would be right up their alley.

kewlmyc
08-17-2007, 04:05 PM
Okay so Jimmy's friend and his sister (who Jimmy likes) were asian in the movie and now... they're not. Am I the only one who noticed this?
Most people noticed it. I also feel that they won't give an explanation for it.

Lavenderpaw
08-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Most people noticed it. I also feel that they won't give an explanation for it.

*cough*Racists*cough* :sweat: Actually,I didn't notice in the trailer I watched & I pretty much switch channels when the commercial plays now.

Blackstar
08-17-2007, 04:31 PM
*cough*Racists*cough* :sweat: Actually,I didn't notice in the trailer I watched & I pretty much switch channels when the commercial plays now.

Well (I may as well speak in the shows' defense, since no one else will), I don't know why the shows' producers made this particular change, but I don't see how this move could be construed as racist. Jimmy (who is white) was originally attracted to an Asian girl and was best friends with the girl's (also Asian) brother, and now his best friend and his crush are now African-American. Unnecessary, maybe. Racist, no.

Lavenderpaw
08-17-2007, 05:21 PM
Well (I may as well speak in the shows' defense, since no one else will), I don't know why the shows' producers made this particular change, but I don't see how this move could be construed as racist. Jimmy (who is white) was originally attracted to an Asian girl and was best friends with the girl's (also Asian) brother, and now his best friend and his crush are now African-American. Unnecessary, maybe. Racist, no.

I was just kidding about the racist thing.But that just makes the show all the more ridiculous to replace the Asian kids with African American kids.It won't really matter anyway,I have a feeling Live Action won't have much life on CN.

Actually...it never has.

Dudley
08-17-2007, 07:53 PM
Everyone here wants this show to bomb. Me too. But if Disney's live-action shows prove anything, is that there's a big chance that this could do good. Apparently, by the looks of things more kids are starting to like live-action shows, and more teens and adults are enjoying animation.
Regardless, I think we should watch 1/3 of the season of OOJH, and then get everyone on this forum, and elsewhere to boycott this show. If crappy shows that run on cliches end up becoming hits with kids, we should do our part to keep this show from getting another season.

DELETED
08-18-2007, 02:24 PM
Okay so Jimmy's friend and his sister (who Jimmy likes) were asian in the movie and now... they're not. Am I the only one who noticed this?


Perhaps you also noticed that those actors from the movie were AWFUL, so they got replaced with hopefully BETTER ones.

Dudley
08-18-2007, 04:21 PM
Perhaps you also noticed that those actors from the movie were AWFUL, so they got replaced with hopefully BETTER ones.

True.
But they replaced two minorities with another.
Something about that doesn't seem right.

Matt Hazuda
08-18-2007, 04:25 PM
True.
But they replaced two minorities with another.
Something about that doesn't seem right.Think of it as a palette swap :p

TheVofSteel
08-18-2007, 10:31 PM
Yeah, This insult to intelligence should be on G4 instead of Cartoon Network.

That makes a whole lot of sense. Put a show aimed at 10-year-olds on a network for 20 and 30something men. One that also strayed away from its original purpose, Video Games.

Dr.Pepper
08-19-2007, 01:34 AM
In a thread I posted in The General Animation, it was stated that Ed Edd and Eddy while successful enough to get renewed past Season One wasn't as big a hit as the other Cartoon Cartoon programs.

I thought I ead somewhere that they had the highest ratings out of all CN shows until KND came out.

Darklordavaitor
08-19-2007, 08:54 AM
I thought I ead somewhere that they had the highest ratings out of all CN shows until KND came out.
That would be Powerpuff, I presume.

Antiyonder
08-19-2007, 09:07 AM
I thought I ead somewhere that they had the highest ratings out of all CN shows until KND came out.

As stated in the post above mine, I was refering to the original Cartoon Cartoons (Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab), back in the late 1990s. But it still did well enough to get past season 1. Again, if EE&E premiered today with the same results from the 90s, it would end up canceled.

veemonjosh
08-19-2007, 09:10 AM
In a thread I posted in The General Animation, it was stated that Ed Edd and Eddy while successful enough to get renewed past Season One wasn't as big a hit as the other Cartoon Cartoon programs.

IIRC, there's never been a CN original show that's been cancelled after only one season.

Antiyonder
08-19-2007, 09:25 AM
IIRC, there's never been a CN original show that's been cancelled after only one season.

My mistake. Regardless though it definately would have shared the same outcome of Krypto The Superdog and Juniper Lee. The network needs to realize that delayed success doesn't always mean garbage. Has any show on Cartoon Network, Disney Channel or Nickelodeon from 2005 made it past 52/65 episodes without it being a fad centered show. Meaning successful, but not in the flavor of the month type way.

Dr.Pepper
08-19-2007, 01:53 PM
IIRC, there's never been a CN original show that's been cancelled after only one season.
Robot Jones. It's first season was split in two halves.

Don_East
08-19-2007, 06:19 PM
"Cartoon Network's first live-action original series!"

That's false advertising, it's about as live-action as "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". And don' say it's like Lizzie Maguire, there's probably like 2 altogether minutes of animation per episode and looks like Golly & his friends are gonna have way more screentime then that per episode. It's a hybrid show, like it or not it barely counts. When they do Sid & Marty Kroft rip-offs, that's when we worry.

Antiyonder
08-19-2007, 06:29 PM
And don' say it's like Lizzie Maguire,

Which is why I don't buy the idea that Out Of Jimmy's Head was done for the sake of trying something different. It's pretty much their version of Lizzie McGuire.

Anthony C.
08-20-2007, 01:32 PM
So why did they chose Cartoon Network when there are other networks to suit their needs? MTV would be right up their alley.

Because alot of these executives are lackeys of Time Warner and they're apart of other divisions. They get assigned in places that the CN hierarchy wants them to be in (this happened with other TW divisions like WCW, The Braves, and TBS).

Ykwia
08-21-2007, 08:32 AM
That makes a whole lot of sense. Put a show aimed at 10-year-olds on a network for 20 and 30something men. One that also strayed away from its original purpose, Video Games.

Hey, Think of it this way. It will fit in perfectly with the other crap like COPS, Star Trek, The Jamie Kennedy Experiment and The Man Show.

Nexonius
08-21-2007, 10:29 AM
Hey, Think of it this way. It will fit in perfectly with the other crap like COPS, Star Trek, The Jamie Kennedy Experiment and The Man Show.




Star Trek isn't crap, my friend.

TheVofSteel
08-22-2007, 08:47 PM
I'll tune in to see what it's like, but I do not have high expectations.

Andrew T. Hingson
08-23-2007, 03:30 AM
Think of it as a palette swap :p

Oh Matt... could be less tasteful with that comment? yeah... I guess you could.

I didn't the asian kids were that bad in Re-Animated but whatever.

The one thing I'm wondering is if they'll start the series as if it's after the movie or if they'll retell the movie differently through the series.

Cypher Rage
08-23-2007, 06:53 AM
I've seen some of the sneek peaks and they look horrible . . . good thing I live in Asia where some shows don't make it here.

TheVofSteel
08-23-2007, 07:37 PM
OK, I just read one of Silverstar's posts and I realized this. Most of you say it's OK if Cartoon Network airs live-action as long as it has something to do with cartoons...well, are you guys forgetting what the plot of Re-Animated/Out of Jimmy's Head is in the first place? It's about a kid who has the mind of a famous animator and now he sees cartoons everywhere. Don't you think that has enough to do with cartoons for it to air on CN? I mean, it's not like the show is going to be great or anything but at least it centers around cartoons. If this was another generic show about a kid trying to "fit in" or something, then I'd complain.

Nexonius
08-23-2007, 07:49 PM
You're right. BUT, the members are still going to complain because it's mostly live action.

TheVofSteel
08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
You're right. BUT, the members are still going to complain because it's mostly live action.

It is mostly live-action, I agree. But at least it's live-action that has something to do with cartoons.

But then there's the movies that DON'T have anything to do with cartoons *cough*The Mighty Ducks*cough*...

So those are still a problem. But OOJH isn't really. At least not for me.

bigddan11
08-24-2007, 12:52 PM
Since everyone keeps putting Bobobo on the various lists, despite it only having one airing on Toonami, then you have to put the other Toonami shows on the list as well. Also, there are some classic shows that still air on Cartoon Cartoon Top 5, so you have to put them on the list. I've put them in italics. That makes the list as follows:

* Ben 10
* Camp Lazlo
* Class of 3000
* Code LYOKO
* Codename: Kids Next Door
* Courage the Cowardly Dog
* Ed, Edd n Eddy
* Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
* The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
* The Land Before Time
* My Gym Partner's a Monkey
* Squirrel Boy
* Storm Hawks
* Transformers Cybertron
* Xiaolin Showdown
* Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
* Dragon Ball Z
* Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes
* Naruto
* One Piece
* Pokémon
* Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
* Teen Titans
* Dexter's Lab (airs occassionally on the Cartoon Cartoon Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Evil Con Carne (airs on CN Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Johnny Bravo (airs on CN Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Powerpuff Girls (airs on CN Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Tom & Jerry

New series
* Out Of Jimmy's Head- I plan on watching the first one or two episodes to see if it's better than the movie. If it's not, I'll never tune in again. (Sept. 14)
* Santo (announced for Fall 2007, but still not listed for Sept.)
* Secret Saturday's (announced for Fall 2007, but still not listed)
* Kamen Rider (may be 2008)
* Transformers Animated (2008)

These are other shows we know they have, from their Web Site, that they currently don't air or air elsewhere.
* The Batman (they have 20 episodes they have the rights to that haven't aired)
* .hack//ROOTS (not currently airing, only aired half the series so far)
* Idaten Jump (not currently airing)
* Atomic Betty (listed on the CN page)
* Baby Looney Tunes (listed on the CN page, airing on Boomerang)
* Batman: The Animated Series (moving to Jetix, listed on CN page)
* Batman Beyond (listed on CN page)
* Cow & Chicken (listed on the CN page, airs on CN Video)
* D. I. C. E. (listed on the CN page)
* Dragon Hunters (listed on the CN page, finished run on CN Video)
* Duck Dodgers (listed on the CN page, has aired on Boomerang)
* Duel Masters (listed on the CN page, 3 episodes never aired)
* Ellen's Acres (ran on CN Video)
* Flintstones (listed on CN page, airing on Boomerang)
* Harry and his Bucket Full of Dinosaurs (listed on CN page, pulled for summer specials, airs on CN Video)
* He-Man (listed on CN page)
* Huckleberry Hound (listed on CN page, airing on Boomerang)
* I Am Weasel (listed on CN page)
* The IMP (airs on CN Video)
* IGPX (listed on CN page)
* Jabberiaw (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Jetsons (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Jonny Quest (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Josie and the Pussy Cats (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Juniper Lee (listed on CN page, airs on CN Video)
* Justice League (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Justice League Unlimited (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Krypto: The Superdog (pulled for summer specials, airs on Kids' WB!)
* Magilla Gorilla listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* MÄR (listed on CN page, airs on Toonami Jetstream)
* Megas XLR (listed on CN page)
* Mike, Lu, and Og (listed on CN page)
* iMucha Lucha! (listed on CN page)
* Naughty Naughty Pets (airs on CN Video)
* Ozzy and Drix (listed on CN page)
* The Perils of Penelope Pitstop (listed on CN page)
* Pet Alien (listed on CN page)
* Peter Potomaus and So-So (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* The Popeye Show (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* The Prince of Tennis (listed on CN page, airs on Toonami Jetstream)
* Quick Draw McGraw (listed on CN page)
* Rave Master (listed on CN page)
* Rescue Heroes (listed on CN page)
* Robot Boy (listed on CN page)
* Robot Jones (listed on CN page)
* Samurai Jack (listed on CN page, finished airing no Toonami Jetstream a few weeks ago)
* Any Scooby-Doo series (all listed on CN page, all air on Boomerang)
* Secret Squirell (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Smurfs (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Space Ghost (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Static Shock (listed on CN page)
* 2 Stupid Dogs (listed on CN page)
* Sunday Pants (listed on CN page)
* Super Friends (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Superman: Animated Series (listed on CN page, moving to Jetix)
* Team Galaxy (listed on CN page, they have 39 episodes they haven't aired)
* Time Squad (listed on CN page, airs on CN Video)
* Totally Spies (airs on CN Video)
* Wacky Races (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Winx Club (listed on CN page, airs on 4K!ds TV)
* Wulin Warriors (listed on CN page, all episodes available on KOL)
* Yam Roll (airs on CN Video)
* Yogi Bear (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Yogi's Gang (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Zatch Bell (listed n CN page, airs on Toonami Jetstream)
* Zixx (listed on CN page, finished run on CN Video)

TheFZAtUGSOnline
08-24-2007, 09:18 PM
Since everyone keeps putting Bobobo on the various lists, despite it only having one airing on Toonami, then you have to put the other Toonami shows on the list as well. Also, there are some classic shows that still air on Cartoon Cartoon Top 5, so you have to put them on the list. I've put them in italics. That makes the list as follows:

* Ben 10
* Camp Lazlo
* Class of 3000
* Code LYOKO
* Codename: Kids Next Door
* Courage the Cowardly Dog
* Ed, Edd n Eddy
* Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
* The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
* The Land Before Time
* My Gym Partner's a Monkey
* Squirrel Boy
* Storm Hawks
* Transformers Cybertron
* Xiaolin Showdown
* Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
* Dragon Ball Z
* Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes
* Naruto
* One Piece
* Pokémon
* Yu-Gi-Oh! GX
* Teen Titans
* Dexter's Lab (airs occassionally on the Cartoon Cartoon Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Evil Con Carne (airs on CN Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Johnny Bravo (airs on CN Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Powerpuff Girls (airs on CN Top 5, also on CN Video)
* Tom & Jerry

New series
* Out Of Jimmy's Head- I plan on watching the first one or two episodes to see if it's better than the movie. If it's not, I'll never tune in again. (Sept. 14)
* Santo (announced for Fall 2007, but still not listed for Sept.)
* Secret Saturday's (announced for Fall 2007, but still not listed)
* Kamen Rider (may be 2008)
* Transformers Animated (2008)

These are other shows we know they have, from their Web Site, that they currently don't air or air elsewhere.
* The Batman (they have 20 episodes they have the rights to that haven't aired)
* .hack//ROOTS (not currently airing, only aired half the series so far)
* Idaten Jump (not currently airing)
* Atomic Betty (listed on the CN page)
* Baby Looney Tunes (listed on the CN page, airing on Boomerang)
* Batman: The Animated Series (moving to Jetix, listed on CN page)
* Batman Beyond (listed on CN page)
* Cow & Chicken (listed on the CN page, airs on CN Video)
* D. I. C. E. (listed on the CN page)
* Dragon Hunters (listed on the CN page, finished run on CN Video)
* Duck Dodgers (listed on the CN page, has aired on Boomerang)
* Duel Masters (listed on the CN page, 3 episodes never aired)
* Ellen's Acres (ran on CN Video)
* Flintstones (listed on CN page, airing on Boomerang)
* Harry and his Bucket Full of Dinosaurs (listed on CN page, pulled for summer specials, airs on CN Video)
* He-Man (listed on CN page)
* Huckleberry Hound (listed on CN page, airing on Boomerang)
* I Am Weasel (listed on CN page)
* The IMP (airs on CN Video)
* IGPX (listed on CN page)
* Jabberiaw (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Jetsons (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Jonny Quest (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Josie and the Pussy Cats (listed on CN page, currently on Boomerang)
* Juniper Lee (listed on CN page, airs on CN Video)
* Justice League (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Justice League Unlimited (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Krypto: The Superdog (pulled for summer specials, airs on Kids' WB!)
* Magilla Gorilla listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* MÄR (listed on CN page, airs on Toonami Jetstream)
* Megas XLR (listed on CN page)
* Mike, Lu, and Og (listed on CN page)
* iMucha Lucha! (listed on CN page)
* Naughty Naughty Pets (airs on CN Video)
* Ozzy and Drix (listed on CN page)
* The Perils of Penelope Pitstop (listed on CN page)
* Pet Alien (listed on CN page)
* Peter Potomaus and So-So (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* The Popeye Show (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* The Prince of Tennis (listed on CN page, airs on Toonami Jetstream)
* Quick Draw McGraw (listed on CN page)
* Rave Master (listed on CN page)
* Rescue Heroes (listed on CN page)
* Robot Boy (listed on CN page)
* Robot Jones (listed on CN page)
* Samurai Jack (listed on CN page, finished airing no Toonami Jetstream a few weeks ago)
* Any Scooby-Doo series (all listed on CN page, all air on Boomerang)
* Secret Squirell (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Smurfs (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Space Ghost (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Static Shock (listed on CN page)
* 2 Stupid Dogs (listed on CN page)
* Sunday Pants (listed on CN page)
* Super Friends (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Superman: Animated Series (listed on CN page, moving to Jetix)
* Team Galaxy (listed on CN page, they have 39 episodes they haven't aired)
* Time Squad (listed on CN page, airs on CN Video)
* Totally Spies (airs on CN Video)
* Wacky Races (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Winx Club (listed on CN page, airs on 4K!ds TV)
* Wulin Warriors (listed on CN page, all episodes available on KOL)
* Yam Roll (airs on CN Video)
* Yogi Bear (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Yogi's Gang (listed on CN page, airs on Boomerang)
* Zatch Bell (listed n CN page, airs on Toonami Jetstream)
* Zixx (listed on CN page, finished run on CN Video)

Thats a big list, arn't you forgetting TMNT2k3, that aired on CN before! (That and HiHi)

Draft
08-24-2007, 09:21 PM
Hey, Think of it this way. It will fit in perfectly with the other crap like COPS, Star Trek, The Jamie Kennedy Experiment and The Man Show.

Neither is Arrested Deelopment or Code Monkeys

List missing Flapjack

and last i read The Batman is heading to Boomerang, so i don't think we'll be getting it on CN till The Dark Knight..

and Robot Jones is on CN Video

bigddan11
08-24-2007, 09:35 PM
Thats a big list, arn't you forgetting TMNT2k3, that aired on CN before! (That and HiHi)
No, I'm not forgetting them. That list is a list of shows currently on CN, listed on CN's Web Site, or available on CN Video. TMNT 2003 and Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi Show are not listed on the site any where now. Supposedly any show listed on CN's site is still available in the CN Library, so they supposedly could air any of the shows on the list I made. Instead, they choose to focus on their new CN Originals.

bigddan11
08-24-2007, 09:37 PM
Neither is Arrested Deelopment or Code Monkeys

List missing Flapjack

and last i read The Batman is heading to Boomerang, so i don't think we'll be getting it on CN till The Dark Knight..

and Robot Jones is on CN Video

I have never read anything about The Batman headed to Boomerang. Robot Jones is on CN Video, but it is not listed under the shows page at CN Video, which is where I pulled the list of shows on CN Video from. I forgot about them airing it on CN Video as well.

I can't remember anything about Flapjack. I'm assuming it was one of the new series CN announced.

Swag Jenkins
08-24-2007, 09:40 PM
I can't remember anything about Flapjack. I'm assuming it was one of the new series CN announced.

Yeah, it is.