Has Wayside Been Cancelled? [Archive]

Bubblegum Girl

07-29-2007, 08:17 PM

And WaySide was an interesting show to see. That what ticks me off about Nick right now. :mad: When they have new shows they hardly give them any air time. I mean Nick show only show 9 episodes of El Tigre and they just stop afterwards...

Def Leppard fan

07-29-2007, 09:23 PM

RockoFan

07-30-2007, 12:36 AM

Let's face it. Wayside had little potential, and I applaud Nick for pulling the plug early instead of making the show suffer.

El Tigre wasn't cancelled, you know. The classics still come on Nicktoons Network if you stay up late enough. Just be glad they aren't gone completely. Oh, and I strongly disagree with you that D&J is overplayed.

Antiyonder

07-30-2007, 01:00 AM

El Tigre wasn't cancelled, you know. The classics still come on Nicktoons Network if you stay up late enough. Just be glad they aren't gone completely. Oh, and I strongly disagree with you that D&J is overplayed.

They need to be a little more patience with new shows. Not all of them are going to perform at the same level of Spongebob Squarepants and The Fairly Oddparents in the blink of an eye.

Heck, Fairly Oddparent from what I hear wasn't at the same level of popularity in it's first season. Yet, because they were patience at the time, it paid off and they ended up with another success. Oh and not everyone has access to Nicktoons Network.

Point is, next time they bring a new show on the network, they need to lower their expectations for a change instead of panicing just because the show isn't an instant fad overnight/3 weeks.

TheVofSteel

07-30-2007, 12:41 PM

They need to be a little more patience with new shows. Not all of them are going to perform at the same level of Spongebob Squarepants and The Fairly Oddparents in the blink of an eye.

Heck, Fairly Oddparent from what I hear wasn't at the same level of popularity in it's first season. Yet, because they were patience at the time, it paid off and they ended up with another success. Oh and not everyone has access to Nicktoons Network.

Point is, next time they bring a new show on the network, they need to lower their expectations for a change instead of panicing just because the show isn't an instant fad overnight/3 weeks.

I totally agree.

limel

07-31-2007, 08:15 PM

that's it,i'm boycotting nick. they take the only good shows(besides spongebob) and take them off the air for over-played reruns of drake and josh or zoey 101(a show I hate with a passion) just to appeal for the audience with no taste. i'm sick of it. first it's el tigre,then it's wayside. when will the madness end?

It's not that they have no taste; just a different taste. And Nick doesn't care if you are boycotting them. They don't care if they lose one viewer, especially if it's one out of their demographic.

No import is treated on Nick, even if it has slightly mediocre ratings[which, most of the time, it doesn't].

And, FYI, El Tigre is coming back with new episodes in the Fall. Straight from the panel at Comic-Con.

Darklordavaitor

07-31-2007, 09:19 PM

Hey, it's going to be back on same time on Thursday, Friday, and next week! At least it says so on my TV Guide.

TheVofSteel

07-31-2007, 11:20 PM

Hey, it's going to be back on same time on Thursday, Friday, and next week! At least it says so on my TV Guide.

It's been saying that on my TV Guide for weeks. Then when the day actually comes, Drake and Josh is airing.

Darklordavaitor

07-31-2007, 11:39 PM

It's been saying that on my TV Guide for weeks. Then when the day actually comes, Drake and Josh is airing.
Eh, I'm fine either way. I don't really find the show funny, and find Drake & Josh better anyways.

RockoFan

08-01-2007, 01:17 AM

Eh, I'm fine either way. I don't really find the show funny, and find Drake & Josh better anyways.
Same here.

Undrave

08-01-2007, 11:46 AM

macattack

08-01-2007, 11:50 AM

The fact they gave the show a crappy slot didn't help matters either.

RockoFan

08-01-2007, 03:38 PM

Hmm... I guess the 'Canadian Curse' is true then... a show from Canada that's POPULAR in Canada just isn't gonna work in the US... especially on Nick :p

I mean 6Teen is a hit on Teletoon (or was anyway) but flopped on Nick.

Now Wayside? This doesn't bode well for Di-gata Defenders :p

I think Wayside is an HILARIOUS show! Plenty of zaniness that can rival the craziest anime!

Heck I could see transfer students between Pani Poni Dash and Wayside :p

Sorry, but I disagree with everything you just said. I didn't find Wayside the least bit zany, or funny for that matter. It seems like a show that would only appeal to kids aged 5-7 if you ask me. Immature, too. I never read the books. I'd never even heard of them. Maybe the books were good, but as a show, Wayside stinks.

stephane dumas

08-01-2007, 06:12 PM

Hmm... I guess the 'Canadian Curse' is true then... a show from Canada that's POPULAR in Canada just isn't gonna work in the US... especially on Nick :p

I mean 6Teen is a hit on Teletoon (or was anyway) but flopped on Nick.

Now Wayside? This doesn't bode well for Di-gata Defenders :p

I think Wayside is an HILARIOUS show! Plenty of zaniness that can rival the craziest anime!

Heck I could see transfer students between Pani Poni Dash and Wayside :p

Does the "Canadian Curse" could apply as well to Totally Spies and Martin Mystery as well, popular in Canada but not too much in the US?

Then how the first hit at Nickelodeon "You Can't do that on Television" escaped this curse since it's from Ottawa?

Marinite

08-01-2007, 06:29 PM

Then how the first hit at Nickelodeon "You Can't do that on Television" escaped this curse since it's from Ottawa? There was nothing else to watch back in the 80s :sweat: If it was there first hit, then there wasn't a bunch to watch on the channel I'd guess.

Darklordavaitor

08-01-2007, 08:55 PM

There was nothing else to watch back in the 80s :sweat: If it was there first hit, then there wasn't a bunch to watch on the channel I'd guess.
There was Pinwheel, Mr. Wizard's World and Danger Mouse around the time it started, but YCDTOTV was a better show, at least IMO.

But, anyways, if I could have my pic on what airs in the show's place, I'd go with DP...

Undrave

08-01-2007, 09:36 PM

Does the "Canadian Curse" could apply as well to Totally Spies and Martin Mystery as well, popular in Canada but not too much in the US?

Then how the first hit at Nickelodeon "You Can't do that on Television" escaped this curse since it's from Ottawa?

It could also apply to Cybersix (HUGE ammount of rerun on Teletoon, barely any run in the US), UnderGRADS (HUGE hit on Teletoon, to the point where they'd be willing to pay for half the cost of a second season, but cancel by MTV) or Downtown for exemple.

The Cartoon

08-02-2007, 12:51 PM

I've been searching for an official word of cancellation and I can't find anything. I am hoping that it is only taking a break and it has not been cancelled yet

TheVofSteel

08-02-2007, 02:38 PM

It could also apply to Cybersix (HUGE ammount of rerun on Teletoon, barely any run in the US), UnderGRADS (HUGE hit on Teletoon, to the point where they'd be willing to pay for half the cost of a second season, but cancel by MTV) or Downtown for exemple.

I thought Cybersix was pretty short-lived, airing 13 episodes in 1999. I remember reading that somewhere.

Undrave

08-02-2007, 04:45 PM

I though Cybersix was pretty short-lived, airing 13 episodes in 1999. I remember reading that somewhere.

It only had 13 episodes, but those episodes were run ad nauseum on Teletoon for many years. Just like UnderGRADS teletoon would have been willing to pay part of a second season but nobody else stepped up to finance the rest of the production.

Draft

08-02-2007, 06:56 PM

I believe canadian curse is that they meet moderate success on any channel except Nick. Life With Derek, Naturally Sadie, and Storm Hawks all suceed on Disney and CN

TheVofSteel

08-02-2007, 07:06 PM

It only had 13 episodes, but those episodes were run ad nauseum on Teletoon for many years. Just like UnderGRADS teletoon would have been willing to pay part of a second season but nobody else stepped up to finance the rest of the production.

Wow, I went to Teletoon's website and they're still airing the show, as filler for Kappa Mikey until season 2 of KM debuts on the network this fall.

Surprising that a show that only lasted 13 episodes is still rerun 8 years later.

I've never seen the show, has it ever aired in the United States?

I believe canadian curse is that they meet moderate success on any channel except Nick. Life With Derek, Naturally Sadie, and Storm Hawks all suceed on Disney and CN

What about The N? Their most successful and long-running show, Degrassi, came from Canada, as did Instant Star and Radio Free Roscoe. Those shows had pretty good runs on The N. Surprisingly, The N is one of Nickelodeon's channels.

Undrave

08-03-2007, 11:40 AM

Wow, I went to Teletoon's website and they're still airing the show, as filler for Kappa Mikey until season 2 of KM debuts on the network this fall.

Surprising that a show that only lasted 13 episodes is still rerun 8 years later.

I've never seen the show, has it ever aired in the United States?

What about The N? Their most successful and long-running show, Degrassi, came from Canada, as did Instant Star and Radio Free Roscoe. Those shows had pretty good runs on The N. Surprisingly, The N is one of Nickelodeon's channels.

UnderGRADS aired on MTV.

And I think the Canadian Curse only apply to Cartoons.

Draft

08-03-2007, 11:55 AM

Wow, I went to Teletoon's website and they're still airing the show, as filler for Kappa Mikey until season 2 of KM debuts on the network this fall.

Surprising that a show that only lasted 13 episodes is still rerun 8 years later.

I've never seen the show, has it ever aired in the United States?

What about The N? Their most successful and long-running show, Degrassi, came from Canada, as did Instant Star and Radio Free Roscoe. Those shows had pretty good runs on The N. Surprisingly, The N is one of Nickelodeon's channels.

Well, The N is different from Nickelodoen imo, it skews to an odler demographic, Jay and Silent bob guest starred on Degrassi for crips sake..

The Cartoon

08-03-2007, 01:37 PM

Hey, does anyone know how contact Nick? I want to ask if Wayside has been cancelled. If they say know, I am going to write a petition. Thanks :D

RockoFan

08-04-2007, 12:21 AM

Hey, does anyone know how contact Nick? I want to ask if Wayside has been cancelled. If they say know, I am going to write a petition. Thanks :D

Why? Like they'll really respond to a petition? Well, I bet it was. And I hope it was.

The Cartoon

08-04-2007, 08:20 AM

Why? Like they'll really respond to a petition? Well, I bet it was. And I hope it was.
Your right, I wouldn't be able to get enough people to sign it anyway. I'm not saying it's the greatest show that Nick has ever had, but they really should have given it more of a chance. Having a really bad timeslot didn't help at all.

Heffer

08-04-2007, 09:21 AM

Your right, I wouldn't be able to get enough people to sign it anyway. I'm not saying it's the greatest show that Nick has ever had, but they really should have given it more of a chance. Having a really bad timeslot didn't help at all.

And the inability for fans to make direct contact with a Nickelodeon representative is perhaps the Network's greatest achievement. "We don't have a clue what fans are thinking for some reason...so I guess we'll just go by what the money says."

DarthGonzo

08-04-2007, 09:42 AM

And the inability for fans to make direct contact with a Nickelodeon representative is perhaps the Network's greatest achievement. "We don't have a clue what fans are thinking for some reason...so I guess we'll just go by what the money says."

Yeah but (again) what fans are you speaking of? Certainly not anyone above 12 or 13, right? Cause it's not like Nick is going to listen to someone out of their target demographic.

Lavenderpaw

08-04-2007, 12:55 PM

Yeah but (again) what fans are you speaking of? Certainly not anyone above 12 or 13, right? Cause it's not like Nick is going to listen to someone out of their target demographic.

Agreed.'Sides,Wayside is probably way gone.

Undrave

08-04-2007, 03:12 PM

Agreed.'Sides,Wayside is probably way gone.

Considering their logo is at the end of the show I suspect they actually PAID money for it and will most likely air at somepoint as filler rather than loose money.

Sucks though...it'll probably end up sucessful on Teletoon and they won't have the budget on their own to commision more episodes -.- just like Cybersix, UnderGRADS or Downtown or plenty other shows.

The Wolverine

08-04-2007, 03:29 PM

And I think the Canadian Curse only apply to Cartoons.

Well, there's Franklin (made for much younger kids, but still), which was a major hit on Nick Jr.

TheVofSteel

08-04-2007, 03:59 PM

Well, there's Franklin (made for much younger kids, but still), which was a major hit on Nick Jr.

Yes, Nick has had lots of success with Canadian cartoons, but only during Nick Jr. Nick has had success with "Little Bear", "Rupert", "Franklin", and "The Backyardigans". 3 were produced with Nelvana, producers of Wayside, and 1 of them was produced with CBC Television, a Canadian broadcaster.

Marinite

08-05-2007, 04:15 AM

Franklin, Rupert, and Little Bear were Canadian?

I thought Rupert was British or something.. he always seemed British.

stephane dumas

08-05-2007, 10:11 AM

Franklin, Rupert, and Little Bear were Canadian?

I thought Rupert was British or something.. he always seemed British.

Rubert was British but the 1991 animated series was a co-production between Canadian studios Nelvana and French studios Ellipse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Bear

RockoFan

08-06-2007, 02:33 AM

northerncrowe

08-06-2007, 01:36 PM

Sucks though...it'll probably end up sucessful on Teletoon and they won't have the budget on their own to commision more episodes -.- just like Cybersix, UnderGRADS or Downtown or plenty other shows.

Don't bet on it. If it does well, TT would do more. ;)
If you're a TT viewer, keep watching. The episodes get better all the time.

Undrave

08-06-2007, 03:47 PM

Don't bet on it. If it does well, TT would do more. ;)
If you're a TT viewer, keep watching. The episodes get better all the time.

Yeah I enjoy it myself. I don't get the flakk it gets around here.

RockoFan

08-07-2007, 12:28 AM

Is TeleToon a Canadian Network? Never heard of it...

northerncrowe

08-07-2007, 05:58 AM

yup...24hrs a day with the "Detour" for adults post 9pm.

Undrave

08-07-2007, 11:50 AM

Is TeleToon a Canadian Network? Never heard of it...

Yup, 24h cartoon network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletoon_%28Canada%29

I'm surprised you never heard of it... it's mentionned around here all the time.

RockoFan

08-08-2007, 11:09 PM

Maybe they are just in the process of making new episodes. And when they're done, it'll be on TV again.

BTW, a 12:30 timeslot isn't bad. I mean, it worked for me! But that'll be differant when school starts.

The Cartoon

08-20-2007, 03:33 PM

Well, Wayside is airing on Nicktoons Network on September 1st. So it isn't totally gone, but it is still unsure if it has been cancelled. There have been no News Releases yet and new episdoes are still airing in Canada. There is a DVD coming out soon also.

TheVofSteel

08-20-2007, 09:39 PM

Well, Wayside is airing on Nicktoons Network on September 1st.

And on September 2.

it is still unsure if it has been cancelled. There have been no News Releases yet and new episdoes are still airing in Canada. There is a DVD coming out soon also.

New episodes haven't aired in Canada since early July, actually. The DVD probably will not hit the US.

Also, I signed your petition.

J'onn J'onzz

08-20-2007, 10:12 PM

I never even had a chance to watch this show. I'll probably watch it on Nicktoons Network in September, though.

veemonjosh

08-20-2007, 10:18 PM

The DVD probably will not hit the US.

It'll still be region 1, so people in the US can play it easily.

80's guy

08-23-2007, 10:19 AM

Wayside will be airing on Nicktoon Network on Sept.

TheVofSteel

08-23-2007, 06:23 PM

Wayside will be airing on Nicktoon Network on Sept.

Yes, we have already addressed that.

Kryten

08-23-2007, 08:30 PM

Called it. SO called it.

So... how long 'til Tak and Barnyard get shipped to the Nicktoons Network wasteland? Takin' all bets!

The Cartoon

08-25-2007, 10:32 AM

I have a theory! There have been 30 episodes of Wayside. There are 30 stories on Wayside. In the book, everything turned into 30, Like the chapters in the books. If 30 episodes made up the first season, maybe they are working on a 2nd season with 30 more!

northerncrowe

08-25-2007, 11:58 AM

There are 26 episodes of Wayside. 2 x 11mins.

The Cartoon

08-26-2007, 11:09 AM

There are 26 episodes of Wayside. 2 x 11mins.
In the U.S they have only made one season with 30 15 minute episodes so far

RockoFan

08-27-2007, 04:16 PM

In the U.S they have only made one season with 30 15 minute episodes so far Really? I thought it was 26 also. Although I haven't read the books, don't get your hopes up for another season. But the re-acurring 30-thing makes you wonder.

zoombie

08-27-2007, 06:15 PM

I think this show belongs on Nicktoons Network more than the main Nickelodeon channel. It is not mainstream in the U.S. to survive with the Spongebob, Drake and Josh of the world.

I like the show, it is not one of the greatest shows, but it is pretty good. But it got buried on Nickelodeon, they never gave the show a fighting chance, and I hope and I think it will do better on Nicktoon Network. The NN audience would appreciate it more than the Teen Nick audience.

Draft

08-27-2007, 06:38 PM

In the U.S they have only made one season with 30 15 minute episodes so far
Did you know that this is als oa Teletoon original, and that it premried in Canada first with an hour special ,followed by 2 13 episdoe seasons, with most of those eps already aired?

so you are wrong, good day

And how is Wayside not mainstream? It's a book series that has lasted around 2 decades, and is stil lpopular with children

The Cartoon

08-27-2007, 07:13 PM

Did you know that this is als oa Teletoon original, and that it premried in Canada first with an hour special ,followed by 2 13 episdoe seasons, with most of those eps already aired?

so you are wrong, good day

And how is Wayside not mainstream? It's a book series that has lasted around 2 decades, and is stil lpopular with children
I do know that it originated in Canada. I am talking about the U.S episodes. Wikipedia said there was 15. I am kind of confused now :confused:

Darklordavaitor

08-27-2007, 08:09 PM

Wikipedia said there was 15.
Now there's you problem right there!

RockoFan

08-27-2007, 08:21 PM

I have a wikipedia account. It can be edited by anyone. It was probably just an honest mistake by the articles author(s). It is 26 individual stories, or 13 episodes.

The Cartoon

08-27-2007, 08:53 PM

I have a wikipedia account. It can be edited by anyone. It was probably just an honest mistake by the articles author(s). It is 26 individual stories, or 13 episodes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayside_%28TV_series%29 I am really, really confused now. I remember most of those episodes :confused:

RockoFan

08-27-2007, 08:56 PM

If you remember most of them, then the ones you don't remember, but are on there, might not have aired yet. And I cannot tell you if and when they'll air, because there is no telling what Nick plans to do with Wayside.

limel

08-27-2007, 11:04 PM

Okay, here's the lowdown:

There was an hour-long pilot, not included in the episode count.

Then, there was a season one, which consisted of 13 half-hour episodes[26 stories, if you want to get technical].

And then there was a season two, which consisted of another 13 half-hour episodes[also 26 separate stories].

That brings the total half-hour episode count to 26 episodes[52 seperate stories]. And then there's the pilot, which isn't included there.

Now, only season one has aired in Canada. They are still waiting on season two.

Nickelodeon US picked it up. They showed three weeks of 5 episodes, bringing the total number of episodes that Nick US showed to 15[30 separate stories]. (NOTE: If you were wondering, Nick showed all of season 1, and then two random episodes of season two.)

And Wikipedia is, as of now, only showing the episodes that have aired in Nick US. Which is 30 fifteen-minute episodes.

And there is your confusion.

The Cartoon

08-28-2007, 07:35 AM

Ohhhhhhh now I'm starting to catch on :D

Draft

08-28-2007, 07:38 AM

I do know that it originated in Canada. I am talking about the U.S episodes. Wikipedia said there was 15. I am kind of confused now :confused:
Teletoon is spoken in ENGLISH, so they have about 26 epsiodes IN ENGLISH. So there should be little editing neccessarry. Plus that means they have 15 epsidoes aired, not neccessarrily only 15 episodes..

OH, Season 2 hasn't aired in Canada? I read it did, my bad :D

Lavenderpaw

08-28-2007, 02:47 PM

I thought we couldn't trust Wikipedia with our life... :sweat:

Anyways,Wayside was way too over the top for me.

Master Toon

08-29-2007, 07:28 PM

In case some of you guys haven't been watching Nick, Wayside is coming back as some back to school special or something like that.

Draft

08-29-2007, 07:36 PM

In case some of you guys haven't been watching Nick, Wayside is coming back as some back to school special or something like that.
Oh, so there might be that 1 hour special

That explained the series

whatever floats your boat Nick, remember you already have 3 failures out of your past 5 toons(Catscratch, Mr.Meaty, The X's failed, El Tigre and Avatar survived), so mind as well screw up another one to make it 4 outta 6..(But of course, make it 4 outta 8, which is still a big number)

TheVofSteel

08-29-2007, 10:13 PM

Wayside is coming back as some back to school special or something like that.

On Nicktoons Network. It's in their "Back to School Before You Go Back to School Weekend" commercial. I don't think it will come back to Nickelodeon.

whatever floats your boat CN, remember you already have 3 failures out of your past 5 toons(Catscratch, Mr.Meaty, The X's failed, El Tigre and Avatar survived), so mind as well screw up another one to make it 4 outta 6..(But of course, make it 4 outta 8, which is still a big number)

I think you have your networks confused. :P

Draft

08-30-2007, 05:11 PM

On Nicktoons Network. It's in their "Back to School Before You Go Back to School Weekend" commercial. I don't think it will come back to Nickelodeon.

I think you have your networks confused. :P

oops..

Well, that could work for CN..

Let's see, outta the originals..(s = success, f = Failure)

Camp Lazlo(S), Class of 3000(S), Puffy Ami Yumi(FFFFFFF). Juniper Lee(F), Squirrel Boy(F), Gym Partner(S)

Dpends on how you look at Lazlo and Gym Partner. But CN still has had better success, since none of them completely died off ,and all aired at least 26 eps(with the exception of Class, which will), while Mr.Meaty barely aired 13, same with the X's count for 20, and i read the catscratch only aired 12 eps?

TheVofSteel

08-30-2007, 11:23 PM

oops..

Well, that could work for CN..

Let's see, outta the originals..(s = success, f = Failure)

Camp Lazlo(S), Class of 3000(S), Puffy Ami Yumi(FFFFFFF). Juniper Lee(F), Squirrel Boy(F), Gym Partner(S)

Dpends on how you look at Lazlo and Gym Partner. But CN still has had better success, since none of them completely died off ,and all aired at least 26 eps(with the exception of Class, which will), while Mr.Meaty barely aired 13, same with the X's count for 20, and i read the catscratch only aired 12 eps?

Catscratch aired 20 episodes and it now can only be seen on TurboNick. It's not even on Nicktoons Network.

The problem with Nickelodeon is that they need more patience like Cartoon Network has. If Fairly Oddparents premiered in 2005-2007, it would have been gone after the initial 6-episode first season, which had some low ratings. But in 2001 Nick had patience, brought it back for another season, and it paid off. Now it's one of their only 3 hit Nicktoons.

Master Toon

08-31-2007, 09:01 AM

On Nicktoons Network. It's in their "Back to School Before You Go Back to School Weekend" commercial. I don't think it will come back to Nickelodeon.

It won't? Awww man! :crying:

Maybe it'll find a new home at Nictoons Network.

northerncrowe

09-03-2007, 10:48 AM

if anyone is still paying attention... when I said 26 episodes, each ep consists of two 11min shows. This means 52 single eps.

Draft

09-03-2007, 08:01 PM

Catscratch aired 20 episodes and it now can only be seen on TurboNick. It's not even on Nicktoons Network.

The problem with Nickelodeon is that they need more patience like Cartoon Network has. If Fairly Oddparents premiered in 2005-2007, it would have been gone after the initial 6-episode first season, which had some low ratings. But in 2001 Nick had patience, brought it back for another season, and it paid off. Now it's one of their only 3 hit Nicktoons.

Ah K. That's too bad. Wasn't too bad either compared to Meaty and X's

That's true..

But hopefully CN will start having no patience once Outta Jimmy's Head airs

limel

09-04-2007, 07:26 AM

if anyone is still paying attention... when I said 26 episodes, each ep consists of two 11min shows. This means 52 single eps.

Refer to my post earlier in the thread. http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2632376&postcount=65

RockoFan

09-04-2007, 09:02 PM

In case some of you guys haven't been watching Nick, Wayside is coming back as some back to school special or something like that.

Ah Ha! There's the problem with Wayside! Nick made the mistake of airing a school related series in the summer. I mean, what kid wants to watch a show about SCHOOL in the summer? Not me... A lot of kids freak when the word "school" is mentioned in summer.

But if it comes back now, it may have better success. With kids back in school, everything just might fall into place for Wayside.

Speedy Boris

09-04-2007, 09:08 PM

limel

09-04-2007, 10:19 PM

Ah Ha! There's the problem with Wayside! Nick made the mistake of airing a school related series in the summer. I mean, what kid wants to watch a show about SCHOOL in the summer? Not me... A lot of kids freak when the word "school" is mentioned in summer.

But if it comes back now, it may have better success. With kids back in school, everything just might fall into place for Wayside.

Gahh. We've told you multiple times, it was a Canadian import, and they don't get treated well on Nick. It's the cold, hard truth.

Ed, Edd, and Eddy is a show about Summer and it did well throughout the year. Even when it was about school, most of its premieres were in Summer and they did good. And take one of Nick's biggest shows, Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide. It even has the word "school" in it! And it is one of the biggest shows on Nick.

Cartoons have had the theme of school before, and do well. The network's biggest hits- Ned's Declassified, Fairly OddParents, Jimmy Neutron- are based on school. That's not the shows problem. It was crappy advertising, crappy time slot. "The Canadian curse." There's no other way around it, it's the only reasonable theory.

Antiyonder

09-05-2007, 03:28 AM

Cartoons have had the theme of school before, and do well. The network's biggest hits- Ned's Declassified, Fairly OddParents, Jimmy Neutron- are based on school. That's not the shows problem. It was crappy advertising, crappy time slot. "The Canadian curse." There's no other way around it, it's the only reasonable theory.

Sure, but after awhile too much of the same thing can get boring. For instance, my comic book preference is superhero based titles, but I do not object to something different like say Uncle Scrooge, Kare Kano, Ren & Stimpy, etc.

Even then, school based shows don't need to be pulled, just given in moderation.

And again, Spongebob's success proves that kids can enjoy somethuing different. Yeah the character has a childlike mentality, but is the show school based (Boating School episodes aside)? The answer is no of course.

While I believe the target demo have a preference of school based shows, I doubt they're the closeminded simpletons the networks make them out to be. Preference doesn't mean opposed to variety afterall. Just means you like a particular thing more than others.

jeff_iz_XLent

09-05-2007, 05:54 AM

Sure, but after awhile too much of the same thing can get boring.

Yep.This show is 'bout as borin' as it can be.I seen one episode and I was about ready to hit da the floor.The animation was so bad.Couldn't hardly stand it none.

limel

09-05-2007, 07:30 AM

Sure, but after awhile too much of the same thing can get boring. For instance, my comic book preference is superhero based titles, but I do not object to something different like say Uncle Scrooge, Kare Kano, Ren & Stimpy, etc.

Even then, school based shows don't need to be pulled, just given in moderation.

And again, Spongebob's success proves that kids can enjoy somethuing different. Yeah the character has a childlike mentality, but is the show school based (Boating School episodes aside)? The answer is no of course.

While I believe the target demo have a preference of school based shows, I doubt they're the closeminded simpletons the networks make them out to be. Preference doesn't mean opposed to variety afterall. Just means you like a particular thing more than others.

You make a good point, but that's not what I was trying to say. I was trying to tell RockoFan, who keeps trying to find a reason why it failed, that it didn't fail because of the fact that it was a school-based show airing in the summer, but that Nick just treated it horribly.

And, regarding your post, why would kids just randomly stop watching these shows? You'd think they would just phase out of them.

Antiyonder

09-06-2007, 12:37 PM

And, regarding your post, why would kids just randomly stop watching these shows? You'd think they would just phase out of them.

Because contrary to network belief, people even kids can and will appreciate variety.

Aside from Nostalgia, one reason I find 80s children defending their cartoons because for better or for worse our shows had different settings so despite the cliches abundant they had their own feel.

Compare that to nowadays where 95% of the current cartoons are pretty much animated sitcoms.

Something that network heads need to realize is that even though a particular brand of programs draws in the audience doesn't mean they'll foam at the mouth at everything different.

TheVofSteel

09-08-2007, 10:57 AM

Wayside might not even be doing well in Canada....no new episodes have aired on TELETOON since early July, and they do have an entire second season of 13 episodes to air. No renewal yet either.

limel

09-08-2007, 11:35 AM

Wayside might not even be doing well in Canada....no new episodes have aired on TELETOON since early July, and they do have an entire second season of 13 episodes to air. No renewal yet either.

Then, by your theory, Avatar must be doing horrible, due to Nick not airing a new episode in 9 months.

The only way you can really tell if a show is doing well is by looking at the ratings.

TheVofSteel

09-08-2007, 02:05 PM

Then, by your theory, Avatar must be doing horrible, due to Nick not airing a new episode in 9 months.

The only way you can really tell if a show is doing well is by looking at the ratings.

Notice that I said Wayside has not been renewed for another season. Avatar has. More than likely, if a show goes a long time without new episodes, it slips in the ratings and has a lower chance of survival. Avatar is just one of the few exceptions, I guess. Another adding factor: If Nick dropped Wayside, chances are they would not continue to produce it and provide funding.

limel

09-09-2007, 07:35 AM

Notice that I said Wayside has not been renewed for another season. Avatar has. More than likely, if a show goes a long time without new episodes, it slips in the ratings and has a lower chance of survival. Avatar is just one of the few exceptions, I guess. Another adding factor: If Nick dropped Wayside, chances are they would not continue to produce it and provide funding.

There's just one problem with that statement: Nick doesn't make Wayside. Teletoon does.

Draft

09-09-2007, 01:46 PM

There's just one problem with both those statements: Nickelodeon and Teletoon Made the series(Co-Production, so the series is both a Nicktoon and TeleToon Original)

Master Toon

09-09-2007, 02:50 PM

TheVofSteel

09-10-2007, 01:52 PM

There's just one problem with that statement: Nick doesn't make Wayside. Teletoon does.

Nope. As Toon Overlord said, it is a co-production between Nickelodeon and Teletoon, in association with Nelvana.

BTW, if you look on Nick.com, Wayside is scheduled for 3-4pm tommorow.

Also, another (off-topic, but interesting) note about this week's schedule: ChalkZone is scheduled to return to Nick this Saturday at 6am. Rugrats is also coming back, Saturday and Sunday at 7am.

RockoFan

09-10-2007, 09:30 PM

I've got two words for you.

Recess and Fillmore.

I don't get it.

limel

09-10-2007, 09:47 PM

I don't get it.

Both were shows about school which did great all year round. Especially in the summer.

Antiyonder

09-11-2007, 03:13 AM

Both were shows about school which did great all year round. Especially in the summer.

Because at that point school based shows weren't as overdone. You still had the recent or new shows at the time such as:

Catdog
Spongebob Squarepants
Dragonball Z
Johnny Bravo
Courage The Cowardly Dog
I Am Weasel
House Of Mouse
Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command

Today on the other hand:
Spongebob Squarepants
The Batman
Avatar The Last Airbender
Fantastic Four World's Greatest Heroes

Regardless whether or not the target audience likes school based programming, that doesn't mean they'll object to something different.

I believe the reason why the Fairly Oddparent's Crash Nebula pilot failed was that space elements aside it was pretty much like Danny Phantom.

Daikun

09-11-2007, 05:24 AM

Because at that point school based shows weren't as overdone. You still had the recent or new shows at the time such as:

Catdog
Spongebob Squarepants
Dragonball Z
Johnny Bravo
Courage The Cowardly Dog
I Am Weasel
House Of Mouse
Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command

Today on the other hand:
Spongebob Squarepants
The Batman
Avatar The Last Airbender
Fantastic Four World's Greatest Heroes

Those are all school-based shows?

Antiyonder

09-11-2007, 05:41 AM

Those are all school-based shows?

The point I was trying to make was that there were many non-school based shows at the time whereas today pretty much every cartoon is more of an animated sitcom rather than a real cartoon.

The Cartoon

09-11-2007, 06:44 PM

Wayside was on today....on Nick! As far as it looks, it will only be shown on Tuesdays, but it isn't totally gone. Also, Wayside: The Movie is coming out on DVD soon even though it hasn't been shown on TV yet.

TheVofSteel

09-12-2007, 03:42 PM

jeff_iz_XLent

09-12-2007, 05:33 PM

I watched it too. And it will be on next Tuesday as well? Nice. :)

Fantastic...

TheVofSteel

09-12-2007, 07:06 PM

Fantastic...

Oh don't worry. :shrug: Nick.com shows something else (can't remember what it was, but it wasn't Wayside).

RockoFan

09-13-2007, 04:10 PM

Undrave

09-14-2007, 08:13 AM

Well, sooner or later Wayside is bound to find its way off Nick and into the twilight zone, a.k.a. Nicktoons Network. That show shows little potential. Maybe it's just me, but that whole idea is just too complicated to make it on TV. I still hope it's cancelled. Sorry fellas.
What's so complicated oO?

And no potential? They can do pretty much whatever they want! There's no logic holding them back. I'd call that potential.

Master Toon

09-14-2007, 08:22 AM

It's not weird enough, it feels like they're doing crazy things on purpose. I want to feel like this school and the people inside are naturally this way. With that being said the episode where the Principle thought the kids were after him was funny and weird.

wizard55

09-17-2007, 02:54 AM

I actually want to watch more than one episode of this series I just never am able to catch it when its on. Did you guys know there is a longer opening theme for the pilot episode or something, someone recorded it and put it on youtube. It's not bad. The oepning theme of this series always gets stuck in my head.

The Cartoon

09-30-2007, 12:53 PM

Guys, Wayside the Movie is out and the show is airing reguarly on Nicktoons Network now.

Nick and More!

09-30-2007, 01:16 PM

Also, starting tomorrow, Wayside is also back on Nickelodeon. It will air weekdays at 3:30 p.m. now.

So that makes it:
Weekdays from 11 a.m. to noon (Nicktoons Network)
Weekdays at 3:30 p.m. (Nickelodeon)
Weekends from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. (Nicktoons Network)

The show has gone from very few airings, to a lot of airings.