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Vdubdavid
02-09-2002, 07:22 AM
What happened to your Tom & Jerry reviews? I enjoyed reading them and learning about the cartoons.

DarthGonzo
02-09-2002, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Vdubdavid
What happened to your Tom & Jerry reviews? I enjoyed reading them and learning about the cartoons.

I did too many at once and got burned out on them. Plus I really havent had the time to sit down and write one. However, I've had several ideas floating around in my head for what cartoons to do next. I just need the time to get a few things straightened out.

If you want, Vdubdavid, why dont YOU tell me what cartoon you want me to review.

In the meantime, I'll repost the Nit-Witty Kitty thread. It goes along with my avator.

Vdubdavid
02-09-2002, 08:17 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DarthGonzo
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If you want, Vdubdavid, why dont YOU tell me what cartoon you want me to review.

Alright then, How about either one of the early ones like "Fraidy Cat" or the last one to feature Mammy Two-Shoes, "Push-Button Kitty"?

Matt Yorston
02-09-2002, 08:19 PM
I just watched one of the much later T&J cartoons on Morpheus last night, "Tom's Photo Finish". Maybe you could review that one too. If you do, it'd be interesting for you to note which scenes were animated by the "new" animators that didn't join the T&J staff until the weaning years (Bill Schipek, veteran Herman Cohen, Ken Southworth, and Jack Carr). I'm guessing Ken Muse did the scene where the husband first finds the "evidence" by the fridge after saying, "I'm tellin' ya, Honey. It's either the dog or the cat!"

DarthGonzo
02-09-2002, 10:15 PM
I wish I was an authority on the subject of Tom and Jerry animators, but after Barge and Spence left the series it became impossible to tell the animators apart, save for Muse, who did indeed animate the scene you mentioned.

Between 1945 and 1947 there are several scenes in certain cartoons where it is difficult to tell who animated what. Making the situation all the more difficult is the fact that the reissue titles from this period are often incorrect. Many cartoons between Springtime For Thomas and Salt Water Tabby don't even credit Ray Patterson, even though he worked on most of them. For the record, Springtime For Thomas, The Milky Waif, Trap Happy, Solid Serenade, Part Time Pal, Cat Fishin', Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse and Salt Water Tabby are all cartoons which fail to credit Patterson for his work on them. Springtime For Thomas also credits Michael Lah when in fact it was Irven Spence who worked on that cartoon. Invisible Mouse has pretty full animation credits, but they leave out Kenneth Muse, who indeed animated a little bit of this cartoon. By the time Kitty Foiled came out, the credits started listing things accurately again.

Now a question: there is animation in Trap Happy and Solid Serenade I simply cannot figure out. Specifically I mean the final minute or so of Solid Serenade and the whole "pulling through the wall" scene from Trap Happy. It looks kinda like Pete Burness, but I thought he had left by then. Anyone have any idea?

And Fraidy Cat and Push Button Kitty sound like good ideas, as does Tom's Photo Finish. I'll try to get one or two of these done in the next few days.

Matt Yorston
02-09-2002, 10:34 PM
Just one last question, DarthGonzo...

Who animated what in "The Missing Mouse"? Did Irv Spence do the scene at the end where Tom "transforms" from old curmudgeon back to his younger self upon discovering the white mouse "will not explode"?

DarthGonzo
02-09-2002, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Matt Yorston
Just one last question, DarthGonzo...

Who animated what in "The Missing Mouse"? Did Irv Spence do the scene at the end where Tom "transforms" from old curmudgeon back to his younger self upon discovering the white mouse "will not explode"?

Nope, that was Kenneth Muse. You like that scene? Personally, I think Ray Patterson did it better in "Old Rockin' Chair Tom".