CN Talkback: Pokémon Diamond and Pearl [7/2-7/5] (Spoilers)

[Duke]

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Pokémon Diamond and Pearl
July 2nd - July 5th, 2007

Ash and Brock, along with the young Pokémon Coordinator Dawn, traverse the land of Sinnoh, meeting all new Pokémon and some hardcore rivals!

Time: 7:30pm Monday-Thursday
(All times in Eastern)
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July 2nd, 2007
Wild in the Streets http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/new.gif

Ash decides to do some training with his Pokémon in preparation for his rematch against the Oreburgh Gym Leader Roark. Even Dawn and Brock help Ash perfect his Pokémon's techniques in order to challenge the powerful Rock Trainer. However, Ash has to put his training on hold when Team Rocket invades the Oreburgh City Laboratory to steal all the ancient Pokémon! As if that was bad enough, they accidentally let an Aerodactyl, among other Fossil Pokémon, loose in the middle of the city! Can Ash and the gang stop the rampaging Pokémon?
Comments: This is the closest our heroes have come to actually dying in a while. Well, in the TV series, anyway.
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July 3rd, 2007
O'er the Rampardos We Watched! http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/new.gif

After some hard training, it's time for Ash to challenge Roark once again! Pikachu and Ash's other Pokémon are raring to go, eager to get revenge for their embarrassing loss last time out. However, Roark's Pokémon are even stronger than they were before! If Ash didn't stand a chance the first time around, how can compete when his opponet has gotten stronger too? Will Ash's quick training fix be enough to pull out a victory?
Comments: Yea...do you really think he'll lose this time?
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July 5th, 2007
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As our heroes travel to the next town, Dawn sees a pretty hyperactive Pachirisu running about. Charmed by the Pokémon's cuteness and thinking it'll be a great addition to her Contest lineup, the young girl decides to catch the squirrel Pokémon! Unfortunately, the little Electric-type isn't the easiest Pokémon to catch. And just when Dawn thinks she has the Pokémon cornered...Jessie shows up and wants the Pachirisu for herself! Who will win this catfight and claim the Pachirisu? Does Pachirisu itself get a say in this?
Comments: So...are they going to have Dawn even attempt to try to catch Pokémon that'll actually evolve? Other than Piplup, I mean. I know the writers hate having Team Rocket get evolve-able Pokémon, but still.
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NOTES


It's time to explore the brand new world known as Sinnoh!

If the episode's title is a link, then it will lead you to that episode's edit list, courtesy of Dogasu.

Pokémon Debuts this week: Rampardos and Pachirisu.

Due to the 4th of July Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends marathon, no episode will be shown that day.

Ash trains for his next Gym Battle. However, it won't last 2 months like when he trained at Dewford Island.

Ash vs. Roark: Round 2 Begin!

Dawn vs. Jessie: Battle for Pachirisu! Begin!

Next week: Somebody other than Team Rocket is after Pikachu, the long-awaited titanic showdown of Magikarp vs. Feebas, Ash lends Team Rocket a Pokémon (Wha!?), and Ash faces off against another Pokémon of the same species that Brock used to own!

If you want to see what Pokémon episodes are airing on Cartoon Network, check out the Other Premieres on CN (http://www.toonzone.net/schedule/index.php?browseNetworkID=6) schedules.

[Lazerboy5000]

I little late Duke... but better late than never.

I'm really looking forward to this weeks episodes. Let's hope CN doesn't spoil them too much.

[Rolling Cloud]

I little late Duke... but better late than never.
I'm really looking forward to this weeks episodes. Let's hope CN doesn't spoil them too much.

Actually, I PM'ed Red about this, and he bumped it up to the front page.

I hope CN won't spoil it too much either.

[Lazerboy5000]

Actually, I PM'ed Red about this, and he bumped it up to the front page.
I see. Duke posted this EARLY this morning. he just needs to get it stickyed.

[Rook]

You know I dont get it, if they can resurrect 1000+ year old pokemon. How come they don't revive dead humans? Or rather why dont they?

[sdp]

I've noticed between CN, HBO and Toon Disney there is always a Pokemon movie airing every week.

I don't really like roark's personality/voice, at times it reminded me of a 'surfer' type person. not a bad episode.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

kind of a boring episode :( Team Rocket stole the machine but it was the ancient pokemon that were the threat. Ash taking lessons from Dawn? thats first :p

[Captain Zechs]

What the heck? That was so utterly stupid. I mean seriously, all that did was prove how pathetic Ash is and how his Pokemon are terrible. I mean, seriously, how long has he had Pikachu? You would think it would be just a tad bit stronger by now...but nooo, he just has to fail. Dawn, a newbie, did better than Ash, what the heck is up with that!?

And how many times now have we been through the path of Ancient Pokemon? I say give them a rest, they really aren't that interesting.

[Tash]

You know I dont get it, if they can resurrect 1000+ year old pokemon. How come they don't revive dead humans? Or rather why dont they?

Reviving humans is never a good idea. Don't you watch TV?

[PC!]

They don't revive dead humans because in the world of Pokemon, only Pokemon matter. Where are all of the grocery stores? Why do we rarely see human hospitals, and always see hospitals for Pokemon?

Anyway, tonight was a decent ep. I'm loving having so many eps revolving around the gym leaders and contests. The less filler, the better.

But sheesh louise, is Rampardos ugly as sin. It looked decent in the games due to the angle I saw it at, but man...that flat head...If Ash's team is nearly taken out by Cranidos, how can he expect to beat Rampardos?

...which I know he will, but still...

[CyberCubed]

Despite a good run of episodes previously, D/P still delivers some "meh" episodes from time to time, and today was an example of it.

I liked that Roark's Pokemon evolve, but eh, the whole Team Rocket plot with the prehistoric Pokemon could have been a lot better. Its not a filler because its a lead-in to the Gym rematch, but overall its probably my least favorite D/P ep.

The good thing is the next two episodes are really good which makes up for todays.

[RockmanDash]

What the heck? That was so utterly stupid. I mean seriously, all that did was prove how pathetic Ash is and how his Pokemon are terrible. I mean, seriously, how long has he had Pikachu? You would think it would be just a tad bit stronger by now...but nooo, he just has to fail. Dawn, a newbie, did better than Ash, what the heck is up with that!?

And how many times now have we been through the path of Ancient Pokemon? I say give them a rest, they really aren't that interesting.

Ok I am going to make you understand..

Everytime Ash enters a new region he magically forgets everything and his Pikachu goes down a bullion levels again.:D

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Originally posted by Duke
So...are they going to have Dawn even attempt to try to catch Pokémon that'll actually evolve? Other than Piplup, I mean. I know the writers hate having Team Rocket get evolve-able Pokémon, but still.

Well Dawn has caught a Bunnery, and those can evolve into Lopunny, and it's too early even in the Japanese version to know if it will or not. Also... well I'm not giving spoilers but I'm sure you may know what I'm about to say about Dawn/Hikari's pokemon lineup Duke...


Originally posted by sdp
I don't really like roark's personality/voice, at times it reminded me of a 'surfer' type person. not a bad episode.

It's not really to suferey actually (which wouldn't make sense for a rock pokemon trainer, even by PUSA's standards). It's just a less nasley/more positive take of Pete Capella's voice for Chazz Princenton of Yu-Gi-Oh GX, back in seasons 1 and 2 when he did the voice for Chazz.

This was a pretty alright episode. Mainly for the training segments with Ash training Pikachu, Turtwig and Aipom for the gym battle and having Brock's Sudowoodo helping him out. And Dawn learning the twirl and stomp manuvear for Piplup and Bunnery. The prehistoric pokemon and Team Rocket threat weren't all that interesting this time around (though I did like James looking at his cards for information on the Giga Impact attack) but that's what you get when you stuff a semi filler inbetween Gym Leader eps. And thanks to Paul this is the first full 4-part gym battle ep since Claire in Johto. (In fact it's the only other 4 part Gym Leader ep. Everything else has been 1, 2, or at most three parts). Hopefully Ash's second battle will fare better then his first, but Ash's never been 0-2 in a regular gym match. Will this be the first? Probably not but still tune in and find out tommorow/today for sure.

[Rook]

What the heck? That was so utterly stupid. I mean seriously, all that did was prove how pathetic Ash is and how his Pokemon are terrible. I mean, seriously, how long has he had Pikachu? You would think it would be just a tad bit stronger by now...but nooo, he just has to fail. Dawn, a newbie, did better than Ash, what the heck is up with that!?

And how many times now have we been through the path of Ancient Pokemon? I say give them a rest, they really aren't that interesting.


Ok I am going to make you understand..

Everytime Ash enters a new region he magically forgets everything and his Pikachu goes down a bullion levels again.:D

Seriously, at this point, pikachu should be some type of super saiyan pokemon. Doesnt matter how cocky Ash gets, he should be an expert by now. Destroying Team Rocket should be nothing.

And apparently, kids are allowed to leave the house at the age of 10.

[Freedom Fighter]

"I know! Call your friend, the TV Pokémon poet!" - Dawn

A little separation anxiety? Intriguing to see Dawn wander off to do her own coordinator training, a vast difference from May, who usually didn't go off by herself to practice for Contests. For a minute there, it felt like Dawn was traveling more just so she wouldn't be alone as opposed to she's genuinely interested in seeing Ash do gym battles. Not that she isn't the latter, but it feels like she leans slightly to the former.

The episode itself is okay... I liked the rampaging Aerodactyl, which added a hint of fear to the populace of Oreburgh City, especially with it going around and Hyper Beaming and Giga Impacting everything that even looked funny to it.

That being said... Dawn coming in to 'rescue the day' was a great scene, as we see Piplup and Buneary really start to come into their own. Ash knows it... even someone with as much experience as him can learn from rookies like Dawn. We'll see if Dawn's hard work pays off for Ash in his rematch...

"Wild in the Streets!": 3.5/5.


But sheesh louise, is Rampardos ugly as sin. It looked decent in the games due to the angle I saw it at, but man...that flat head...If Ash's team is nearly taken out by Cranidos, how can he expect to beat Rampardos?

...which I know he will, but still...I don't know about the ugly part, but it just feels odd when a gym leader's Pokémon evolves just in time to get a beatdown from Ash.

Allegedly. :p

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Transformers was worth missing last night's episode, espicially seeing how it wasn't all that good to begin with, according to a few comments here, but I shall ferociously make sure I catch tonight's episode!

[Lazerboy5000]

I was quite disappointed with yesterday’s episode. TR spends 3 episodes working on a plan, and they can’t even execute in right. Good thing we are going to get some new bad guys.
Ash, a veteran trainer, getting some help from Dawn, a rookie? Well he’s going to need to get all the help he can get now that Crainadose has evolved.
Ash is in some deep… uh… trouble now.


You know I dont get it, if they can resurrect 1000+ year old pokemon. How come they don't revive dead humans? Or rather why dont they?

probably cause humas don’t turn into fossils.


And apparently, kids are allowed to leave the house at the age of 10.

You’re new to this aren’t you? I figure that 12 is a better age than 10, but that’s my opinion.

Wild in the Streets – 3.5/5

[Hyper Shadow X]

Yesterday's eppy reminded me of season one where Misty offered to help Ash win his first gym battle. Except this time Dawn offered to help him instead.

[Freedom Fighter]

Just a heads up... Zap2It's schedule lists "Following a Maiden Voyage!" airing in D/P's primetime slot two weeks from tonight (July 17th). That looks like it means CN is stopping premieres at D/P Episode 24, not 26 as we all thought (with #24 airing July 16th). If they are, that is... there is the possibility they could be cutting down to probably one premiere a week, but it's too soon to tell - unless anyone has more than a 2-weeks advanced schedule.

[Master Moltar]

If they are, that is... there is the possibility they could be cutting down to probably one premiere a week, but it's too soon to tell - unless anyone has more than a 2-weeks advanced schedule.

Nope, the reruns continue the following week.

[YoshiAngemon]

Transformers was worth missing last night's episode, espicially seeing how it wasn't all that good to begin with, according to a few comments here, but I shall ferociously make sure I catch tonight's episode!
I can kinda agree with you there. I mean, at least this would've been a bit better than Ash's FIRST encounter with an Aerodactyl, back when Charmeleon evolved into Charizard, out of anger.

[Lazerboy5000]

I liked his First encounter with Aerodactyl better the the last episode.

Hopefuly today's episode is WAY better than yesterday's

FYI, i believe that Ash's second chance record with Gym/Brains is 8-1. (not including Orange Islands)

[Rolling Cloud]

I can kinda agree with you there. I mean, at least this would've been a bit better than Ash's FIRST encounter with an Aerodactyl, back when Charmeleon evolved into Charizard, out of anger.

He didn't evolve out of anger, he only evolved so that he could beat Aerodactyl. (Jealousy, you could call it) Ash was kinda secondary in that case to him. :sweat:

[Inkan1969]

fanservice shot (http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9771/11697231813457jb.jpg), though her skirt suddenly got bigger. ;)

[LordTerminal]

Way to strike a pose after landing that final blow to Onix, Pikachu.

Who says cute critters can't be badass?

Can Geodude even still learn Seismic Toss?

How the heck can Turtwig throw Rampardos like that? Sometimes the Anime just wrecks the logic in these battles a little too much sometimes.

Theme song insert time.

[sdp]

I've noticed TR mostly says their motto by themselves/to no one. They've done it in the past before but it seems they do it most of the time now.

watched the lucario movie and it was weird seeing an aipom around ash and a bonsly around brock that are no theirs. since they hadn't caught them yet.

croagunk is very scary and sadistic looking, especially when he attacks..
The theme song during the battle was extremely cheesy but i kind of enjoyed it :yawn:

I wonder if ash's badges will get dirty if he doesn't clean them from time to time;)

[Rolling Cloud]

Wow, so it's time for Ash's first gym battle in Sinnoh, though the timing couldn't have been better.

Another day, another episode down till repeats. Total shame too, since I knda liked how this one went along. No Cold Opening, and straight to the battle with almost no interruptions. Dawn and Brock were nicely put into it too.

Speaking of Dawn, OMG..the JP. animators really needed fanservice in this episode? She was in a cheerleader outfit the whole time (Well, except for the last few seconds at the end) But still, maybe some one should remind the animators that Dawn wasn't put in the show for them to dress her up in whatever outfit they choose, she was put in the show as a character with a purpose.

Now, the one thing that confuses me is the OP that was put in it. Was: "Together" played in the original and PUSA couldn't get rights to play it in that episode or did they just slap the song in? :confused:

Croagunk was hilarious in this episode, enough said.

Between the top-notch battling, and the confusion thrown in here by PUSA's dubbing standards, it was a pretty fair ep.

I give it a: 8.5/10. :anime:

[YoshiAngemon]

What? You were expecting to see Dawn's panties? Maybe she'd do better with shorts under that skirt, like what May has.

[Rolling Cloud]

What? You were expecting to see Dawn's panties? Maybe she'd do better with shorts under that skirt, like what May has.

No, I wasn't expecting to see Dawn's "underwear" , that's completely missing the point of my post. The point was that every episode so far has been promoting Dawn, having Dawn in some outfit, or something else completely ridiculous. I just feel that the Cheerleader outfit was just tacked on and while it didn't ruin my enjoyment of the episode, but maybe the animators could take a break with it all.

That's all I'm saying.

[Duke]

What the heck? That was so utterly stupid. I mean seriously, all that did was prove how pathetic Ash is and how his Pokemon are terrible. I mean, seriously, how long has he had Pikachu? You would think it would be just a tad bit stronger by now...but nooo, he just has to fail. Dawn, a newbie, did better than Ash, what the heck is up with that!?
While Pikachu has gotten faster and its electric attacks have gotten stronger...it's still a tiny little mouse. It'll never be able to withstand many Physical attacks, especially coming from such powerhouses like Onix and Cranidos/Rampardos.

I mean, put a Level 70 Pikachu against a Level 50 Onix and just see how many Double Edges/Rock Slides/Earthquakes/whatever it takes to down Pikachu (hint: it won't take many).


Now, the one thing that confuses me is the OP that was put in it. Was: "Together" played in the original and PUSA couldn't get rights to play it in that episode or did they just slap the song in? :confused:Together was probably played in the episode, but PUSA didn't play it simply because they couldn't get the rights. They just chose not to play it all. The Japanese version has been playing vocal songs during each episode's climax in almost every single episode since mid-Hoenn.

[Freedom Fighter]

Another technical-heavy battle, though not as thrilling overall as Paul's match, or even Ash's first one with Roark.


Speaking of Dawn, OMG..the JP. animators really needed fanservice in this episode? She was in a cheerleader outfit the whole time (Well, except for the last few seconds at the end) But still, maybe some one should remind the animators that Dawn wasn't put in the show for them to dress her up in whatever outfit they choose, she was put in the show as a character with a purpose.The whole wardrobe bit is certainly debatable. There's different outfits for each contest (which I'm guessing at this point, since there's only been one shown here so far). And we had Dawn attempt to bring that giant suitcase of clothing in her first episode. Maybe 'just because she helped Ash prepare for the rematch' isn't a good reason to suddenly don a cheerleading costume and cheer for him to win. It could be overboard a little on the animator's part, but this somewhat turns around the previous episode (at least the early parts) and proves that Dawn cares as much about Ash's success as he does of hers.

Oh, and a fair warning... the first person to use that as a reason for Ash and Dawn being a couple gets hanged by the neck. Lousy shippers...

As for the rematch itself, I thought it was okay, though we all know it would come down to Ash having to beat Rampardos to get a Coal Badge. Ash's Pokémon found all sorts of ways to spin around attacks, didn't they? Turtwig really made the battle interesting at the end, with the charging Razor Leaf attack to use as camouflage. Once again, a more technical battle that wasn't all that amusing as a whole, but hey... it's better than one-hit wonder hits and inexplicable comebacks.

And I thought the sudden insertion of the dub OP was a bit jarring... but I guess it's okay.

Oh, and Croagunk tormenting Team Rocket? Nice filling touch...

"O'er the Rampardos We Watched!": 3/5.
(Nice timing with the patriotic-like episode title, by the way.)

[Lazerboy5000]

Standard rematch for Ash. But give some credit to the guy. Roark was a lot stronger than last time.

I would have liked to see Ash work on that special training a little bit before the battle.

I can’t believe that Brock didn’t notice that Crogunk was gone.

TR = lame as ever


How the heck can Turtwig throw Rampardos like that? Sometimes the Anime just wrecks the logic in these battles a little too much sometimes.

I think I’ve said it before. I’ve noticed that the gravity on the Pokemon world appears to be less than here. So humans can jump very high, and small pokemon can be unusually strong.


watched the lucario movie and it was weird seeing an aipom around ash and a bonsly around brock that are no theirs. since they hadn't caught them yet.

Remember the Dexyoxs movie. There was a wild Munchlax hanging around the gang most of the time, and May hadn’t caught one yet.

It was okay but it could have been better. And what was up with the Theme Song?

O’er the Rampardos we Watched – 4/5

One last note, it looks like speed is going to play a huge factor in the Sinnoh region. I figure that adding speed to a battle will increase attack power, and give the pokemon a better chance to dodge an attack. Therefore speed is a good offence and defense. Roark’s pokemon was very fast, and Ash’s Turtwig has some incredible speed as well.

[yoshirider13]

I liked this episode. The battle was pretty good and I liked Pikachu's pose when he took down Onix. :p

Is it just me or did the dub use an unusually high amount of japanese bgm?

Wow Team rocket, use your pokemon to beat croagonk, it must not be that hard since his trainer wasn't there....

You guys thought it was weird, but I liked having the dub OP song in the battle. It made it feel fresh and new, and I must say, I LOVE the op in instrumental form.

[bigddan11]

I was quite disappointed with yesterday’s episode. TR spends 3 episodes working on a plan, and they can’t even execute in right. Good thing we are going to get some new bad guys.
Ash, a veteran trainer, getting some help from Dawn, a rookie? Well he’s going to need to get all the help he can get now that Trainadose has evolved.
Ash is in some deep… uh… trouble now.

I'm pretty sure it's Craniadose since his head was a big cranium. Any way the pteradactyl plot would have been the perfect opportunity to have Gary appear since he is involved in ancient Poke'Mon research, and it also would have made it seem less like the season 1 episode that had a very similiar plot.

Dawn showed a coordinator can have some good moves that assist with a battle. Croagunk proetcting the battle was predictable, but I to was wondering why Team Rocket didn't bring out their Poke'Mon. They should look at the bright side though. At least they didn't blast off. Only one more episode awaits us this week, but it should be great. Right now I'm leaning towards a 4/5 for the week.

[PC!]

That Croagunk is genuinely creepy. I know I'd be backing away if one of them ever crossed my path. Didn't expect it to attack Jessie, but it was amusing.

Not having seen a real gym battle in its entirety since...wow, Blaine in Kanto, I believe, it's amazing just how much Ash has improved since the days of having his badges handed to him regardless of whether he wins or not. He's become quite the strategist. And honestly, considering 2/3 of his team was wiped out by Cranidos alone, I wouldn't have expected him to do as well as he did the second time around if I didn't know how the formula worked on this show. Even with a grass type, Turtwig could easily have been trumped by Rampardos' flamethrower. Kudos to Ash.

[Lazerboy5000]

I'm pretty sure it's Craniadose since his head was a big cranium. Any way the pteradactyl plot would have been the perfect opportunity to have Gary appear since he is involved in ancient Poke'Mon research, and it also would have made it seem less like the season 1 episode that had a very similiar plot.
I hope we do get to see Gary during this season. Maybe he will battle Paul.
"Rival vs Rival" :evil:

I'm going to be out of town for the 4th, so I'll watch the episode tormorrow morning.

Later.

[Hyper Shadow X]

I wonder if anyone else noticed other than me that Roark's voice sounded alot like Pauls?

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Originally posted by Hyper Shadow X
Yesterday's eppy reminded me of season one where Misty offered to help Ash win his first gym battle. Except this time Dawn offered to help him instead.

Well I suppose, though there were a lot of differences. First off Ash was the one to ask Dawn for help, not the other way around. Also Misty wanted to offer Ash her Pokemon, not her assistance. Also if you're refering to Dawn asking for Ash to get his own Pokemon, that's still different. See I can understand wanting to respecfully just stick with your own Pokemon and not want to use another trainer's if you dont' have to. (Something I guess Misty dosen't get. See "Princess Vs Princess"). I still don't understand not wanting to use Pokemon you already trained to help you out. I mean really still dont' support Ash's whole start over theory espically when he still uses Pikachu so it's not even a full do-over.


Originally Posted by Cloud5543
Speaking of Dawn, OMG..the JP. animators really needed fanservice in this episode? She was in a cheerleader outfit the whole time (Well, except for the last few seconds at the end) But still, maybe some one should remind the animators that Dawn wasn't put in the show for them to dress her up in whatever outfit they choose, she was put in the show as a character with a purpose.

I don't know, I think that her dressing as a cheerleader did serve a purpose of cheering Ash on. And it's part of her character to be pretty fashion conscience and changing attireish. Ever since the first episode where like Freedom Fighter mentioned she wanted to go out with a whole suitcasse full of clothes and imagined herself wearing various wardrobes when thinking of which Pokemon to use for her journey as a coordinator. It's not the animators wanting to be fanservicey if the writers dictate fashion be a part of her character. Which serves it's purpose as characterization and differencing her from the other female tagalongs this show has had.


Now, the one thing that confuses me is the OP that was put in it. Was: "Together" played in the original and PUSA couldn't get rights to play it in that episode or did they just slap the song in? :confused:

I'm sure "Together" was played in the original since the dubbers only subsistue a written song if another written song was playing, and "Together" would of fit the mood of the battle. And no it wasn't because they don't have the rights to the song. Rather it's because PUSA makes they're own song because they don't want the Japanese original song anywhere in the english version of the show. If there was any chance of it showing it would have already when PUSA took the license from 4Kids since CN is more lienant on letting original anime shows intros pass. However PUSA specifically didn't want to use the original opening and created they're own so I don't see why you would think they would want to play the original at any point when they could play they're version of it. (Besides it's a good chance to hear a more extended version of the english opening which is still pretty good).


Originally posted by Duke
While Pikachu has gotten faster and its electric attacks have gotten stronger...it's still a tiny little mouse. It'll never be able to withstand many Physical attacks, especially coming from such powerhouses like Onix and Cranidos/Rampardos.

I mean, put a Level 70 Pikachu against a Level 50 Onix and just see how many Double Edges/Rock Slides/Earthquakes/whatever it takes to down Pikachu (hint: it won't take many).

Yeah but Pikachu isn't at level 70. I mean if you want to be fair with how much it's been training with Ash over the last 10 seasons, it should technically be beyond level 100 (and though the show dosen't follow the games route of having the gym leaders get progresslivley stronger and stronger over the course of the game, Rorak's technical strongest Pokemon was not even level 20 in game). But you know every time the show restarts Pikachu gets weaker. I think the only one of Ash's pokemon to stay at it's same strength level and get more powerful that's lasted more then one region is Charizard, who i'm sure will make one appearence somewhere down the line in Sinnoh doing something.


Origianlly posted by Yoshirider13
Wow Team rocket, use your pokemon to beat croagonk, it must not be that hard since his trainer wasn't there....

As Lazerboy mentioned TR is still as lame as ever. And still as dumb as ever. i mean really anyone who dosen't give up 500+ times like that pretty much dosen't have much intellegence in them. Espically when using the same plan they uncessfully used at least 10 or so times before.

Although Paul's battle was pretty good, I think this is actually the best of the four part Rorak battle, espically since they did cut out any nonsense "getting ready and we'll do our best" speeches and started more with the battle at the very start. Ash did a nice job utizlizing Dawn's strategies at twirl jumping to get over the speed and power of the rock types and come out victorious. I also like how each of the three Pokemon had a good little "revenge" battle against the one who defeated them. Pikachu was able to Iron tail Onyx after losing to him last time. Aipom showed his stuff and was able to defeat Geodude after having been swiftly defeated by the dude before. And Turtwig (with the first vocaul in episode use of the Diamond and Pearl theme which was a nice touch) was able to get behind Rorak in a nice mix of speed and ingeunity to secure the battle. There were also some other good moments, from Dawn and her Pokemon cheering Ash on (Thinking about it, Dawn's probably the most supportive female friend so far. May was more indecisive in a way and Misty could be pretty mocking about Ash's style), and Crogunk easily freaking out and taking out Jessie. Too bad he can't just do that everytime although admittingly even most of TR's plans aren't as lame as "just trying to go in an steal Pokemon while they're battling like that would work after not having worked the last 400 times we did that".

[Rolling Cloud]

Together was probably played in the episode, but PUSA didn't play it simply because they couldn't get the rights. They just chose not to play it all. The Japanese version has been playing vocal songs during each episode's climax in almost every single episode since mid-Hoenn.


The whole wardrobe bit is certainly debatable. There's different outfits for each contest (which I'm guessing at this point, since there's only been one shown here so far). And we had Dawn attempt to bring that giant suitcase of clothing in her first episode. Maybe 'just because she helped Ash prepare for the rematch' isn't a good reason to suddenly don a cheerleading costume and cheer for him to win. It could be overboard a little on the animator's part, but this somewhat turns around the previous episode (at least the early parts) and proves that Dawn cares as much about Ash's success as he does of hers.


I don't know, I think that her dressing as a cheerleader did serve a purpose of cheering Ash on. And it's part of her character to be pretty fashion conscience and changing attireish. Ever since the first episode where like Freedom Fighter mentioned she wanted to go out with a whole suitcasse full of clothes and imagined herself wearing various wardrobes when thinking of which Pokemon to use for her journey as a coordinator. It's not the animators wanting to be fanservicey if the writers dictate fashion be a part of her character. Which serves it's purpose as characterization and differencing her from the other female tagalongs this show has had.

I'm sure "Together" was played in the original since the dubbers only subsistue a written song if another written song was playing, and "Together" would of fit the mood of the battle. And no it wasn't because they don't have the rights to the song. Rather it's because PUSA makes they're own song because they don't want the Japanese original song anywhere in the english version of the show. If there was any chance of it showing it would have already when PUSA took the license from 4Kids since CN is more lienant on letting original anime shows intros pass. However PUSA specifically didn't want to use the original opening and created they're own so I don't see why you would think they would want to play the original at any point when they could play they're version of it. (Besides it's a good chance to hear a more extended version of the english opening which is still pretty good).

Good points, I can't help but agree. :anime:

[Duke]

I think I’ve said it before. I’ve noticed that the gravity on the Pokemon world appears to be less than here. So humans can jump very high, and small pokemon can be unusually strong.
Actually, you could argue that Turtwig was using Grass Knot, a TM move that gets more powerful the heavier a Pokémon is, and the average Rampardos weighs 226 pounds.


I'm pretty sure it's Craniadose since his head was a big cranium.
Actually, it's Cranidos.

I mean really still dont' support Ash's whole start over theory espically when he still uses Pikachu so it's not even a full do-over.
Pikachu's his starter Pokémon, his best friend ever, and the mascot of the entire franchise. You expect it to be dumped too?


I'm sure "Together" was played in the original since the dubbers only subsistue a written song if another written song was playing, and "Together" would of fit the mood of the battle.
Not necessarily. There have been a couple episodes (the most notable being Misty's departure at the end of Johto and the Hoenn episode where Pikachu got amnesia) where the dub crew made up a song when the Japanese version used regular instrumental music.


Yeah but Pikachu isn't at level 70. I mean if you want to be fair with how much it's been training with Ash over the last 10 seasons, it should technically be beyond level 100
I have no clue how you came to that conclusion considering the anime's lack of level-usage. The anime uses a slightly more realistic, meaning gradual, approach to Pokémon getting stronger. Levels were only mentioned one time, in a filler episode very early on in Kanto, so they don't really count. I mean, Pikachu in the anime is already very different from in the games just based on the physics of the show. If Pikachu was at "Level 100," it should be able to beat something like Kyogre or Celebi, but it can't.

But the point still stands. No matter how strong Ash's Pikachu's going to get, it still has soft, fleshy skin that can't take very many physical hits (especially when said hits are coming from Pokémon made of freaking rocks). The only areas Pikachu will ever excel in are its Electric-type attacks and its speed.


(and though the show dosen't follow the games route of having the gym leaders get progresslivley stronger and stronger over the course of the game, Rorak's technical strongest Pokemon was not even level 20 in game).
Actually, they do get stronger, it's just not as evident because there's no level counter and some of the lineups are changed (such as Falkner getting a Pidgeot instead of a Pidgeotto).

[Lazerboy5000]

I just want everyone to know that I have REALLY bad spelling, and that includes Pokemon too.

I haven't watched yesterday's episode yet, but I haven't heard much (not even CN's spoiler promos).

[yoshirider13]

I just want everyone to know that I have REALLY bad spelling, and that includes Pokemon too.

I haven't watched yesterday's episode yet, but I haven't heard much (not even CN's spoiler promos).There was no new episode yesterday.

[Lazerboy5000]

There was no new episode yesterday.
I just figured that out.:p
Duh, Lazerboy.
What ever. I'm still looking forward to tonights episode, cause CN didn't spoil it yet.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Actually CN's spoiling it now. If you've been watching Class of 3000 you'd see some short and long promos for the new episode playing. But they're actually not terribly telling spoilers. Well as terribly telling as some episode spoilers are anyway.


Originally posted by Duke
Pikachu's his starter Pokémon, his best friend ever, and the mascot of the entire franchise. You expect it to be dumped too?

No, I meant that I don't believe in him rebooting every region with new Pokemon just to start over fresh, espically if he's not starting over fresh with a full team. I know they'd never get rid of Pikachu (like they'd never get rid of Ash/Team Rocket/Brock) but it's still a lame way of trying to promote Sinnoh Pokemon and make Ash seem like a weaker trainer then he is.


Not necessarily. There have been a couple episodes (the most notable being Misty's departure at the end of Johto and the Hoenn episode where Pikachu got amnesia) where the dub crew made up a song when the Japanese version used regular instrumental music.

True, but that was also when 4Kids did the show. PUSA dosen't seem to replace regular songs when the Japanese version used instrumental music.


I have no clue how you came to that conclusion considering the anime's lack of level-usage. The anime uses a slightly more realistic, meaning gradual, approach to Pokémon getting stronger. Levels were only mentioned one time, in a filler episode very early on in Kanto, so they don't really count. I mean, Pikachu in the anime is already very different from in the games just based on the physics of the show. If Pikachu was at "Level 100," it should be able to beat something like Kyogre or Celebi, but it can't.

I'm saying if he's been training with Pikachu for years (which has been at least 4th wall hinted at by TR saying to Dawn "we've been chasing Pikachu since before you were born) and through various regions, so he should be at level 100 if going by game levels, but the anime works differently I guess. As in it keeps resetting levels and strengths for various pokemon in situations. Ash's pokemon improve over a region then loose that imporvement entering a new one. Simple as that.

[CyberCubed]

I know they'd never get rid of Pikachu (like they'd never get rid of Ash/Team Rocket/Brock) but it's still a lame way of trying to promote Sinnoh Pokemon and make Ash seem like a weaker trainer then he is.

Why are you putting Brock on the same level as Ash/Pikachu and Team Rocket?

He's nowhere near a permanant character, (as seen in Orange), and the writers already know they're stretching it by bringing him into Sinnoh, considering how much hate he's getting from both the english and Japanese fanbases.

I'd be awfully surprised if Brock is kept after Sinnoh ends, his popularity has been dwindling at the end of every saga.

[PC!]

I find it odd how Dawn spends so much time on her hair only to cover it up with a hat.

After watching the episode, I thought of how amusing it would be if a trainer simply sent out his/her entire Pokemon team to wail on a wild Pokemon before he/she caught it. It'd be extreme, but entertaining.

Anyone else chuckle when Dawn frantically tried to call back Pachirisu?

Wow, Pachirisu is quite the mischief maker. It's always nice to have a Pokemon with some actual personality on the team.

How exactly does one go about freeing a Pokemon anyway? What makes freeing a Pokemon any different than just sending it out?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Ash's rematch wasn't nearly as good as his first try :yawn: I guess seeing the same people, pokemon and arena 3 times makes it lost its impact. Dawn, Piplup and Buneary cheering him on made up for it though :)


now Dawn must learn the problems of raising a electric pokemon like Ash did early on :p Pachirisu is real cute I loved how it curled up with its tail to sleep :anime:

[Lazerboy5000]

Actually CN's spoiling it now. If you've been watching Class of 3000 you'd see some short and long promos for the new episode playing. But they're actually not terribly telling spoilers. Well as terribly telling as some episode spoilers are anyway.
Not watching 3000, I was playing Gran Trismo 2.

#$?&, they did another cold opening. This time it got me confused.:mad:

I laughed at Dawn's frizzed up hair.:anime:

Pachirisu is REALLY fast... like Turtwig.

It was kind of sad when Dawn let Pachirisu go. Good thing everything worked out in the end (like it always does).

Now Dawn knows how Ash felt when Pikachu shoked him all the time.:anime:


One last note, it looks like speed is going to play a huge factor in the Sinnoh region. I figure that adding speed to a battle will increase attack power, and give the pokemon a better chance to dodge an attack. Therefore speed is a good offence and defense. Roark’s pokemon was very fast, and Ash’s Turtwig has some incredible speed as well.
They are showing again that Speed is going to play a Huge factor in the Sinnoh region.


How exactly does one go about freeing a Pokemon anyway? What makes freeing a Pokemon any different than just sending it out?
Well I’m sure we all feel differently about it than Paul.:evil:

Twice Smitten, Once Shy. – 5/5

[Freedom Fighter]

"Oh, I can't stand it! I WANT YOU!" - Dawn, to Pachirisu
"I thought you were stuck on stupid, but... silly me!" - James, to Meowth
"If I want that kind of affection, I'll just bang my head against the wall!" - Jessie

The episode this week that I was actually waiting for...

And it turned out well, despite one big music snafu (and that's a harsh one, since I usually don't comment on music on Pokémon). Now, we know PUSA wasn't gonna keep the insert song when Dawn first called out Pachirisu (after catching it), but couldn't they have put in a song more... whimsical? I mean, the music was teetering on 'life is over as we know it if we can't calm down this Pachirisu' - a little too serious. PUSA made it up later in the episode with some sad music later on when Dawn was sulking, and when Pachirisu 'chose' Jessie, but still...

That being said, I love Pachirisu. If any Pokémon in the history of the series has the chance to be a legitimate successor to Pikachu, it's Pachirisu. Forget Marill, Pichu, Plusle, and Minun. Electric squirrels are just plain nuts! Energy is this little guy's middle name! Man, I just love how it outruns and outwits Pikachu and the others.

I was actually surprised Dawn let it go when she said she 'couldn't handle it.' But without her 'lack to try,' we wouldn't have had that great showdown between Dawn and Jessie (beats the whole Wurmple deal with May and Jessie, for sure). Heck, I had even thought Pachirisu had chosen Jessie - but it was outwitting even me, apparently.

So, 19 episodes into D/P, and already all three of our heroes have a Sinnoh Pokémon we'll remember for years. Ash and Turtwig (with Turtwig's tendency to bite on his head), Brock and Croagunk (with Croagunk stabbing away Brock's chances at romance), and now... Dawn and Pachirisu (which is sure to have her running all over the place, if not getting daily doses of shock therapy).

"Twice Smitten, Once Shy!": 4/5.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

So, 19 episodes into D/P, and already all three of our heroes have a Sinnoh Pokémon we'll remember for years. Ash and Turtwig (with Turtwig's tendency to bite on his head),

Turtwig isn't memorable to me yet :confused: its head biting isn't nearly as good a Vicreebells was :(


on the subject of teams, Ash has 4, Dawn 3 and Brock 2. Ash will get 2 more, Dawn the same, and Brock maybe 1 more so its sad to see the rosters almost totally filled out so early what ever happened to having and using lots of different pokemon :crying:

[YoshiAngemon]

If anything, maybe Wobbuffet will get traded back to the boy who accidently traded her for the Lickitung, and Jessie will get Lickilicky. Then it would put an end to Wobbuffet's popping out, and it WOULD mean that Lickilicky would lick her affectionately after missing her.

[PC!]

Electric squirrels are just plain nuts!

No pun intended.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

パチリス！！！


What a funny episode, dang, I love that squirrel...

[Duke]

Wow, we haven't seen a Pokémon use blue lightning since, what, early Johto?


I'm saying if he's been training with Pikachu for years (which has been at least 4th wall hinted at by TR saying to Dawn "we've been chasing Pikachu since before you were born) and through various regions, so he should be at level 100 if going by game levels, but the anime works differently I guess. As in it keeps resetting levels and strengths for various pokemon in situations. Ash's pokemon improve over a region then loose that imporvement entering a new one. Simple as that.
Getting experience in the anime isn't the same as getting experience in the games. For one thing, experience-gathering is more gradual. I mean, you could weight-lift when you're 13 for a whole year, but that doesn't mean you can suddenly beat up a professional weightlifter who's in his 30's. Another thing is that Ash rarely does anything that remotely resembles "level-grinding" that most gamers do. He and Pikachu fight anyone who wants to on their travels, but they don't do any serious training until they have to, and even then it's only for a few days and never with wild Pokémon.

Pikachu's pretty much plateued as far as its basic strength is concerned. It'll get gradually stronger as it gets older, but it'll never get a serious boost in strength on its own again, hence why the writers are giving it new attacks like Iron Tail and Volt Tackle.


How exactly does one go about freeing a Pokemon anyway? What makes freeing a Pokemon any different than just sending it out?
Freeing a Pokémon causes the Poké Ball's internal registry to erase said Pokémon from its data, so it can't be recalled until it's captured again.


If anything, maybe Wobbuffet will get traded back to the boy who accidently traded her for the Lickitung, and Jessie will get Lickilicky. Then it would put an end to Wobbuffet's popping out, and it WOULD mean that Lickilicky would lick her affectionately after missing her.
I highly doubt Wobuffet will ever leave the group. I think Meowth will leave before Wobuffet does.

[YoshiAngemon]

パチリス!!!


What a funny episode, dang, I love that squirrel...

Kinda makes you think of Rodney from Squirrel Boy. That guy's really nuts, if you could stand him. "AH FELL INNA DAWG!!"

[Rolling Cloud]

If anything, maybe Wobbuffet will get traded back to the boy who accidently traded her for the Lickitung, and Jessie will get Lickilicky. Then it would put an end to Wobbuffet's popping out, and it WOULD mean that Lickilicky would lick her affectionately after missing her.

He didn't accidentally trade her for the Lickitung. If memory serves right, the plan was as follows:

"Trade kids empty pokeballs for pokemon, while they think they're getting new pokemon back"

Team Rocket (mostly Jessie) misjudged and accidentally gave the kid a full pokeball which contained Lickitung, while they get Wobuffett.

[Duke]

He didn't accidentally trade her for the Lickitung. If memory serves right, the plan was as follows:

"Trade kids empty pokeballs for pokemon, while they think they're getting new pokemon back"

Team Rocket (mostly Jessie) misjudged and accidentally gave the kid a full pokeball which contained Lickitung, while they get Wobuffett.
Actually, during Team Rocket's plan, Jessie accidentally got knocked into a real trading machine and Lickitung's Poké Ball popped in. At that time, the kid with the Wobuffet just happened to have put his Poké Ball on the machine right before, so they got switched then. Jessie then grabbed what she thought was Lickitung's Poké Ball without looking and went back to battle Ash & company.

[Rolling Cloud]

Actually, during Team Rocket's plan, Jessie accidentally got knocked into a real trading machine and Lickitung's Poké Ball popped in. At that time, the kid with the Wobuffet just happened to have put his Poké Ball on the machine right before, so they got switched then. Jessie then grabbed what she thought was Lickitung's Poké Ball without looking and went back to battle Ash & company.

Oh yeah, that's right. *facepalm* I should re-watch that one. xP

[Lazerboy5000]

Wow, we haven't seen a Pokémon use blue lightning since, what, early Johto?
Remind me what Pokemon used blue lightning.

[Dudley]

Remind me what Pokemon used blue lightning.

I've seen Flaffy use it in the third movie, as well as several Magnemite
in a late Kanto/Orange Island episode.

[Lazerboy5000]

I've seen Flaffy use it in the third movie, as well as several Magnemite
in a late Kanto/Orange Island episode.
Alright. I like the blue lightning way better than the normal yellow lightning. It looks cooler.

[Hyper Shadow X]

I found yesterday's eppy pretty funny.

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Originally posted by CyberCubed
Why are you putting Brock on the same level as Ash/Pikachu and Team Rocket?

He's nowhere near a permanant character, (as seen in Orange), and the writers already know they're stretching it by bringing him into Sinnoh, considering how much hate he's getting from both the english and Japanese fanbases.

I'd be awfully surprised if Brock is kept after Sinnoh ends, his popularity has been dwindling at the end of every saga.

I don't know. After the whole fiasco in the Orange Island Saga and how much backlash they got for replacing Brock and how much the writers don't want to stray too far from the norm I doubt they'll ever fully get rid of Brock again. I mean really I think by the 10th's season and four lands he's been established as one of the main characters. Unless Paul replaces him as the older more expireenced trainer or something i don't see Brock leaving the cast anytime soon. Even after D&P ends.

Okay, so we've obviously had "Trainer catches new Pokemon friend" episodes. "Trainer catches pokemon with some sort of problem" episodes. "Trainer sends Pokemon away" episodes. "Trainer sends Pokemon away and they come back" episode ("Pikachu's Goodbye). And thanks to Paul we've had one episode where a trainer catches a pokemon and releases them. This is the first time I believe though for a main character we've had "Trainer catches pokemon with some sort of problem, releases them and they come back" all in the same episode. Dawn's problems with Pachirsu being overactive and uncontrollable were understandable and being a pretty "newbish" trainer I could undrstand her feeling she can't control him and releasing Parchisu to the wild. Ash really should of talked to her more about how Pokemon can take a lot of difficulty and training to control (Charizard, or hey even his Pikachu from the first ep) but otherwise a pretty good ep. Parchisu is an interesting Pokemon. This generation's Pikachu actually except not desenced from the Pokemon like Pichu or lame recolor repeats like Plusul on Minusun. I also liked Jessie's attempts at capturing Parchisu and being happy just "getting him" and not wanting to go after the other's Pokemon. (If She realizes they go over they're heads trying to capture more then one pokemon why dosen't she realize they never ever win against Ash and co and never will win?) As well as Parchisu coming back to Dawn. An interesting alternative to regular capture eps (though Dawn first capturing Parchisu is another example of just capturing a pokemon, which really makes me question why sometimes the heroes have to be friends with the Pokemon first when other times they just capture them) and a nice development of Dawn's character actually (her remark about not caring about her hair being shocked at the end could be a sign she's starting to value fashion and looks less then she use to).

[Duke]

I've seen Flaffy use it in the third movie, as well as several Magnemite
in a late Kanto/Orange Island episode.
The Magnemite lines and the Mareep lines were the only ones to use blue lightning, though the Mareep line switched over to yellow lightning during the second half of Johto and I believe Wattson's Magneton used yellow lightning in Johto.

[bigddan11]

Parichisu (or whatever his name is) was hilarious. He wore out every single Poke'Mon Ash and Dawn had. It was also great how he kept lighting Dawn's hair up with those static flashes.

I get the feeling Dawn is going to get less fashionable as the season goes on, with the exception of dressing up for the contests. Also, as Dawn is slowly realizing, when you sleep out in the open, it's difficult to do your hair, which is one of the reasons I'm assuming she wears a bandanna.

[Lazerboy5000]

Parichisu (or whatever his name is) was hilarious. He wore out every single Poke'Mon Ash and Dawn had. It was also great how he kept lighting Dawn's hair up with those static flashes.
I like her hair better that way.;)

[D Dubbs]

I've noticed between CN, HBO and Toon Disney there is always a Pokemon movie airing every week.


They're on HBO too? I didn't know that.


I don't really like roark's personality/voice, at times it reminded me of a 'surfer' type person. not a bad episode. My main issue with his voice is that he's voiced by the same person who voiced Brandon in Battle Frontier. So that's two gym leaders/frontier brains in a row who have the same voice. PUSA needs more variety with their voice actors.



And how many times now have we been through the path of Ancient Pokemon? I say give them a rest, they really aren't that interesting.

They aren't all bad. "The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémonopolis" from Kanto was pretty good.


You guys thought it was weird, but I liked having the dub OP song in the battle. It made it feel fresh and new, and I must say, I LOVE the op in instrumental form.

It wasn't the instrumental version. It had the full theme song with a guitar solo in between the vocals. And for the record, I thought it sounded completely out of place. I've gotten use to the theme, but this just didn't work. The instrumental of the theme that they use for the credits would've probably made it better, but even then I still might not like it.



The anime uses a slightly more realistic, meaning gradual, approach to Pokémon getting stronger. Levels were only mentioned one time, in a filler episode very early on in Kanto, so they don't really count.

Come again? The term 'level' has been mentioned way more than that. I don't think it was used very much in Hoenn, but they've definitely brought it up several times during Kanto and Johto. It was mentioned most commonly whenever a Pokemon learned a new attack, or occasionally when one evolved.



So, 19 episodes into D/P, and already all three of our heroes have a Sinnoh Pokémon we'll remember for years. Ash and Turtwig (with Turtwig's tendency to bite on his head), Brock and Croagunk (with Croagunk stabbing away Brock's chances at romance), and now... Dawn and Pachirisu (which is sure to have her running all over the place, if not getting daily doses of shock therapy).


Eh, I'm not so sure about that. Turtwig has become sort of dull, now that it has stopped biting Ash's head. IMO, the only Pokemon that have an interesting personality on the team right now would be Croagunk and Pachirisu. I wish they would do more with Sudowoodo. Maybe make him more like the the Sudowoodo from the Johto episode "Type Casting." Now that guy was hilarious.

And since when does Brock carry around a coffee mug with him? That seemed a bit out of place.

[Duke]

They aren't all bad. "The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémonopolis" from Kanto was pretty good.
You're the first person I've ever read that actually likes that episode.

The problem with Fossil Pokémon is that Ken Sugimori (or whoever designed them) created them as deadly creatures that fit more at home in Jurassic Park or something, which doesn't really work in the Pokémon TV series.



Come again? The term 'level' has been mentioned way more than that. I don't think it was used very much in Hoenn, but they've definitely brought it up several times during Kanto and Johto. It was mentioned most commonly whenever a Pokemon learned a new attack, or occasionally when one evolved.
The word "level" has been said, but the context used is similar to when people say an athlete has reached a new level, not "Pikachu has reached Level 62!"

I wish they would do more with Sudowoodo.
Eh? It's been around for only 6 episodes. It's not like Forretress or anything.

[D Dubbs]

You're the first person I've ever read that actually likes that episode.


Oh?


Monday's episode was fairly boring (The first half anyway. The last half was pretty amusing, with the giant Gengar going around and blowing stuff up, and the end with the giant Jigglypuff!)



[The banned Porygon episode] is better than any filler in any other season (except for "Pokemopolis" in season 2). This was one of the only times when everyone was in true mortal danger and nothing was softened to the snooze point.



Ahh, the good old days. My favorite episode in the marathon was the pokemopolis episode.

Seriously, who doesn't want to listen to a giant Jigglypuff's ear-deafening lullaby? :p



Eh? It's been around for only 6 episodes. It's not like Forretress or anything.

Yes, but I haven't seen anything like this in the last 6 episodes:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5490/brocklickssudowoodoay9.png

Brock's Sodowoodo still has a long way to go before it can compare to this one. :sweat:

[Freedom Fighter]

Turtwig isn't memorable to me yet :confused: its head biting isn't nearly as good a Vicreebells was :(


Eh, I'm not so sure about that. Turtwig has become sort of dull, now that it has stopped biting Ash's head.Points well taken, guys. I suppose Turtwig hasn't been really bite-happy as of recently. I still like Turtwig, but I guess it's not as memorable as I thought it was. At least not yet, if at all.

[Lazerboy5000]

They aren't all bad. "The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémonopolis" from Kanto was pretty good.
I though that episode was alright, but not great.



Yes, but I haven't seen anything like this in the last 6 episodes:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5490/brocklickssudowoodoay9.png

Brock's Sodowoodo still has a long way to go before it can compare to this one. :sweat:
That's an old episode. Brings you back doesn't it?

I found Turtwig’s speed the most memorable thing so far, but the head biting could lighten the mood at bit.

[CyberCubed]

I still like Turtwig, but I guess it's not as memorable as I thought it was. At least not yet, if at all.

I think the problem with Turtwig is it doesn't have as distinct a personality as his previous grass types had.

Bulbasaur was the original, the arrogant and stubborn one. It also had some of the best battles in the series.

Chikorita at least had cuteness going for it, as well as the crush on Ash. And Treecko brought us back to a more prideful and tough Pokemon, as well as being damn cool throughout all its evolutions.

Turtwig on the other hand seems to be a mixture of Bulbasaur and new stuff. I'm sure if Turtwig evolves it'll get a bit more interesting.

[Lazerboy5000]

I saw the spoilers for today, new bad guys, horray. ;)

[Scirel]

WTF? After storm hawks I left this on and see in the span of 5 minutes a serious villain kill off some subordinates coldly, have a really good team, and act really badass.

Not to mention showing one of my favorite pokemon, Gardevoir. When did this get good again?

[Rolling Cloud]

WTF? After storm hawks I left this on and see in the span of 5 minutes a serious villain kill off some subordinates coldly, have a really good team, and act really badass.

Not to mention showing one of my favorite pokemon, Gardevoir. When did this get good again?

Wrong week, post this in the one pinned at the top of the board.

[yoshirider13]

Could PUSA be slowly giving us all the japanese BGM? Before, we would usually get 1-4 pieces of japanese BGM per episode. Then before Roark, It sky rocketed to 5-7 pieces. and Now, according to Dogasu's edit, The first time Ash battled Roark, they kept 11 peieces of music! Isn't that cool?