Puppetoons

[Jack]

I was wondering, how many George Pal "Puppetoons" are there, and are they all in the public domain?


Jack :confused:

[Sogturtle]

Originally posted by Jack
I was wondering, how many George Pal "Puppetoons" are there, and are they all in the public domain?


Jack :confused:

Br'er Jack~

Can't find my own list right now, buuuuuut it appears there are 41 AMERICAN theatrical Puppetoons, plus at least 9 European ones made before he fled to the U.S.. In addition there were some that were made on commision (one for an oil company comes to my warped little brain). And allegedly he also made a sequence for the 1940 MGM Mickey Rooney & Judy Garland feature "Strike Up The Band".

I can't answer the second part of your question (public domain status) but can tell you this... According to a good source, at least one of the final Puppetoons ("John Henry And The Inky Poo") was worked on by none other than... our ol' pal Charlie Thorson !! (late of Disney, MGM, Schlesinger, Fleischer, Terrytoons, and Columbia/Screen Gems)

[Bobby B]

Originally posted by Sogturtle

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. And allegedly he also made a sequence for the 1940 MGM Mickey Rooney & Judy Garland feature "Strike Up The Band



The 1947 Paramount feature "Variety Girl" also has a Puppetoon sequence, "Romeow and Julicat". According to the credits, it's supposed to be a Technicolor sequence within the B&W feature, but the print I saw (on AMC) was B&W throughout.

[Thad Komorowski]

Don't forget, alot of the Puppetoons were bought by U.M.&N


-Thad

[Sogturtle]

Originally posted by Thad K
Don't forget, alot of the Puppetoons were bought by U.M.&N


-Thad

Yes Thad, and it's the very reason the prints are so faded to red. To see the same shorts in "The Puppetoon Movie" and in U.M & M. is mind-boggling (and a cause of severe eyestrain :D).

[J Lee]

Back in the 1960s, when the UM&M/NTA package was still a major part of a lot of independent station's kids package, there was no differentiation between the Puppetoons and the Noveltoons and other Fleischer/Famous cartoons -- they'd all run within the same show, so that a Betty Boop cartoon might be followed by "The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins," which would be followed by a Little Lulu or a Screen Song (of course by the time I was old enough to remember what I was watching, WNEW in New York did not show Pal's Jasper cartoons, which isn't surprising, since the endings for "Fresh Hare" and Goofy Groceries" in their Warner Bros' package were also relegated to the cutting room floor by then).

[Argus Sventon]

I have a PD tape with "Tubby the Tuba" on it, with the original Paramount titles. However, a while back, I saw "Tubby the Tuba" with U.M.&M. refilmed titles.

[Paul Penna]

Originally posted by Jack
I was wondering, how many George Pal "Puppetoons" are there, and are they all in the public domain?

When the "Puppetoon Movie" came out on DVD I rhapsodized on rec.arts.animation about the beautiful quality of the shorts in the bonus section and expressed my wish for more. Arnold Leibovit, producer of the film and DVD and apparently the current owner of the Pal works, responded by saying that various rights issues made the video release of additional titles unlikely. Now that could mean music clearances and underlying literary rights as well. A reminder that "P.D./non-P.D." isn't really a black-and-white issue, so to speak.