Bleach Anime box set on the way!

[Jacob T. Paschal]

For $90 you can get...440 minutes of Bleach! (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=7184)


This is really odd. Why didn't they just start out this way in the first place? Double dipping, much? Or will they pull a FUNimation and begin releasing their series' like this? What about such titles as Death Note, or Hikaru no Go? Could a similar treatment be possible or is this simply because Viz Media is trying to push Bleach?

Seemingly, this set will be 16-18 episodes long, I wonder if any extras will be included to intice people (like myself) into actually buying it.

[Brad Redfield]

A bit more expensive than the other Shonen Jump boxsets they offer...I guess that's to be expected since the singles haven't been out for too long.

[Space Cadet]

For $90 you can get...440 minutes of Bleach! (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=7184)


This is really odd. Why didn't they just start out this way in the first place? Double dipping, much?

They did it with Inuyasha as well.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Extras? Probably not much. At best you might get some kind of non-video related item like what the Naruto sets have. On the disc you might have some kind of little extra and probably the "volume 2 preview" and the usual Shonen Jump home video promo reel.

But man 40 more bucks for just 115 more minutes compared to Naruto's latest box set is highway robbery. Still it IS cheaper than buying Bleach volumes seperately so I guess that's something.

Nope, can't say I like Bleach enough to buy this but I'm more willing to get this than the singles at any rate.

I don't expect they'll stop singles. Inuyasha box sets didn't stop single releases. HnG and Death Note could probably get this treatment some day. I'm honestly a bit surprised that Bleach is already in boxsets when they went with the singles route. When they want to milk a series they go with singles followed by box sets. Great as having 2 box sets of PoT out farely quickly is it more than proves Viz doesn't have a lot of faith in the property outside of hardcore buyers.

They expect to get a lot of sales from Bleach so like ADV and FUNimation they releases singles as their bread and butter and then release box sets for any lingering buyers that they haven't hooked yet.

[Duke]

I wonder if the reason is that the Bleach sales have been below expectations.

That's the only reason I can think of as to why a boxset is being made so quickly.

If the Bleach singles were doing well, then Viz would just be following the same formula they do with InuYasha. I mean, the 50+ singles are still selling pretty decently, and the boxsets come out well after its singles counterpart has.

If Hikaru no Go's sales were slipping, we would've seen a boxset long ago, and I doubt Death Note's singles will sell poorly.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Extras? Probably not much. At best you might get some kind of non-video related item like what the Naruto sets have. On the disc you might have some kind of little extra and probably the "volume 2 preview" and the usual Shonen Jump home video promo reel.

But man 40 more bucks for just 115 more minutes compared to Naruto's latest box set is highway robbery. Still it IS cheaper than buying Bleach volumes seperately so I guess that's something.

Nope, can't say I like Bleach enough to buy this but I'm more willing to get this than the singles at any rate.

I don't expect they'll stop singles. Inuyasha box sets didn't stop single releases. HnG and Death Note could probably get this treatment some day. I'm honestly a bit surprised that Bleach is already in boxsets when they went with the singles route. When they want to milk a series they go with singles followed by box sets. Great as having 2 box sets of PoT out farely quickly is it more than proves Viz doesn't have a lot of faith in the property outside of hardcore buyers.

They expect to get a lot of sales from Bleach so like ADV and FUNimation they releases singles as their bread and butter and then release box sets for any lingering buyers that they haven't hooked yet.

By the way, The Prince of Tennis volume 3 comes out in October 23, with 275 minutes of footage. (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=6709)

[Sparticus]

W00t! Bleach as it should be viwed: in mega-marathon form! :D


I wonder if the reason is that the Bleach sales have been below expectations.

They're probably below expectations because everyone's waiting for the box sets. :p

[Jacob T. Paschal]

W00t! Bleach as it should be viwed: in mega-marathon form! :D



They're probably below expectations because everyone's waiting for the box sets. :p

Or:


[Adult Swim] isn't getting it the ratings it could on Toonami.
Nobody likes it because it's boring.
People have read the comic volumes released by Viz Media.

[veemonjosh]

Nobody likes it because it's boring.

Maybe only you, but a lot of people like it because it's NOT boring (unlike most shonen anime).

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Maybe only you, but a lot of people like it because it's NOT boring (unlike most shonen anime).

I never said I thought it was boring, even though I do, I was implying the people might think it was boring.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

By the way, The Prince of Tennis volume 3 comes out in October 23, with 275 minutes of footage. (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=6709)

Thank's for the Birthday present Viz! :anime:

Bleach hasn't been selling poorly by any means. Last time I checked the DVDs were selling very well for singles. When the rest of the top 10 list is movies or box sets some how Bleach gets on there. So it's definently not for lack of sales.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Thank's for the Birthday present Viz! :anime:

Bleach hasn't been selling poorly by any means. Last time I checked the DVDs were selling very well for singles. When the rest of the top 10 list is movies or box sets some how Bleach gets on there. So it's definently not for lack of sales.

*Sniff* But's it's only like...11 or 12 episodes!!!

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Looks to be 25 minutes less than the other sets which are 13 episodes each so I'd assume it's 12 episodes. Just like the 2nd Naruto set it seems.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Looks to be 25 minutes less than the other sets which are 13 episodes each so I'd assume it's 12 episodes. Just like the 2nd Naruto set it seems.

It would appear I'll never understand how they do their episode count per each set...

[Fresh V]

$90? Damn, that's way too expensive. I was looking forward to this, but I don't think I want to buy this for that much money. Way to go, Viz.:sad:

[purplehairedwonder]

I've been holding off on buying the Bleach singles to get the box sets, but this is just ridiculous. If I pick it up, it's going to be with as many discounts as I can come up with ><

[D Dubbs]

I got excited when I saw the thread...and then the excitement died when I read the first sentence. $90? What a rip off. I'll just be watching the reruns on AS.

[silverfox1027]

$90? What? I like Bleach...but I definitely don't like it that much.


When the rest of the top 10 list is movies or box sets some how Bleach gets on there. So it's definently not for lack of sales.

Really? Do you have a source for that? I know that Bleach has been moderately successful (that much was basically guaranteed), but I don't hear about it much, especially considering the ridiculous amount of promotion that Viz has given to it. I was expecting it to be as huge as Inuyasha.

[GWOtaku]

Well, after the obligatory Amazon or Best Buy discount you're definitely paying less than you would be for the single discs.

Now that I think of it though, collections of 26 episode series generally go for a lot less. So I guess some criticism is deserved.

[Novapocalypse]

Thing is, it comes out October........thats enough time to get ALL 52 episodes on TV and aired,and on the set.I don't care if the singles arn't that far, only 20 episodes.....for $89.98?

Thanks for screwing up one of my favorite series' boxset Viz.:mad:


Ya know, It's funny how it has a T rating, 13+, while the Naruto boxset has a T+,meaning 16+............and we know which one is more violent.

[Rolling Cloud]

Ya know, It's funny how it has a T rating, 13+, while the Naruto boxset has a T+,meaning 16+............and we know which one is more violent.

Does it really matter which one is more violent? Srsly, your gonna turn this into one of those Shounen argument threads and we don't need another one of those.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

LOL! One Piece Edited Volume 11 comes out the same day! (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=6659)

[DBZNarutoWarrior]

I've been looking to get into Bleach, and the DVD's would be great, but $90 is pretty steep. I'm sure that it will drop in price relatively soon after. I always wait about a month to three months, and usually at some major retailers the price goes down 10%-20% off. Then when the next set comes out it drops another 5%-10% off. So, it shouldn't be too big of a deal, just be patient, but if you're not like me (and are allowed to order things off of the internet due to credit card or lack there of:p ) you can just get a good deal on a Deep Discount or something.

[Soul]

Honestly I'm buy8ing this once it comes out.
I can get it cheap due to sells or online, etc.
SO WOO~!
BLEACHBOX

[Duke]

Bleach hasn't been selling poorly by any means. Last time I checked the DVDs were selling very well for singles. When the rest of the top 10 list is movies or box sets some how Bleach gets on there. So it's definently not for lack of sales.
If that's true then it makes even less sense. Usually, boxsets only come out quickly when the singles sell poorly. Naruto and Prince of Tennis have an excuse for being so expensive because they don't have singles to pay for the licensing costs (yes, I know there are Naruto singles, but they're edited).

[veemonjosh]

LOL! One Piece Edited Volume 11 comes out the same day! (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=6659)

Hahahahahaha, they're just getting to the halfway point of the dub.

That's just silly.

[felixthunder]

it will cost me about £40.00 to import with customs:mad: thats like $80 so no big deal is guess.I am just glad they are giving bleach the boxset form.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

If that's true then it makes even less sense. Usually, boxsets only come out quickly when the singles sell poorly. Naruto and Prince of Tennis have an excuse for being so expensive because they don't have singles to pay for the licensing costs (yes, I know there are Naruto singles, but they're edited).

Edited Naruto DVDs sell quite well actually. They're a gateway drug for new viewers. Though now there's 3 uncut box sets so any of those will suffice for that. Even so the tend to sell pretty well.

I wouldn't say PoT is expensive at all. About 40 bucks for 13 episodes? That's one of the better deals out there. Only truely budget box sets are better deals than that. You know like DBZ Uncut boxsets (which as we both know are crushing the competition).

Edited anime still sells believe it or not. I would have thought a Pokemon fan would have been aware of that seeing as Pokemon movies are in the top 10 quite often. Sometimes even more than one.

On a side note. Naruto is up to 52. They churn a new one of those out every month now I believe.

You know if Viz is determined to keep selling One Piece edited DVDs then why not just burn the episode count off with 13 episode sets or even 26 episode sets? I guess it doens't sell awful but they could probably get even more sales with 13 episode burn-offs like FUNimation does with 4kids crap these days (and Ninja Turtles). And while they're at it. Do the same thing for the rest of their "edited only" slate.

I heard HnG's sales aren't all that good though so I wonder if they'll start releasing it in box sets soon. Maybe they decided it's working well enough as single.

[Novapocalypse]

I guess when it comes out it would probably be cheaper online somewhere so I will probably end up buying it.

Mabye they are going by arcs meaning that boxset 2 might go from 21-63.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Edited Naruto DVDs sell quite well actually. They're a gateway drug for new viewers. Though now there's 3 uncut box sets so any of those will suffice for that. Even so the tend to sell pretty well.

I wouldn't say PoT is expensive at all. About 40 bucks for 13 episodes? That's one of the better deals out there. Only truely budget box sets are better deals than that. You know like DBZ Uncut boxsets (which as we both know are crushing the competition).

Edited anime still sells believe it or not. I would have thought a Pokemon fan would have been aware of that seeing as Pokemon movies are in the top 10 quite often. Sometimes even more than one.

On a side note. Naruto is up to 52. They churn a new one of those out every month now I believe.

You know if Viz is determined to keep selling One Piece edited DVDs then why not just burn the episode count off with 13 episode sets or even 26 episode sets? I guess it doens't sell awful but they could probably get even more sales with 13 episode burn-offs like FUNimation does with 4kids crap these days (and Ninja Turtles). And while they're at it. Do the same thing for the rest of their "edited only" slate.

I heard HnG's sales aren't all that good though so I wonder if they'll start releasing it in box sets soon. Maybe they decided it's working well enough as single.

This latest OP edited DVD has six episodes, maybe Viz could start putting two discs in one case like FUNi is doing with the 4Kids crap, and at the very least burn through twelve episodes at once.

[Anime Freak]

I heard HnG's sales aren't all that good though so I wonder if they'll start releasing it in box sets soon. Maybe they decided it's working well enough as single.

Actually HnG sales > edited one piece, pot and mar . Although you cant really say thats much of an accomplishment these days heh.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

You sure about that? Last time I heard Viz say anything about HnG sales they said it was selling worse than edited OP. Also, MÄR just came out so give that one some time. If PoT is lacking in sales with those nifty box sets, I'm very dissapointed but not terribly surprised.

[Conekiller]

It feels like the individual releases are taking forever. Boxsets for a show like this work better anyway...before the show gets boring.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

You sure about that? Last time I heard Viz say anything about HnG sales they said it was selling worse than edited OP.

I think you're remembering wrong. Someone asked a Viz rep how edited One Piece was selling, and then followed up asking if it sold better than Hikaru no Go. The rep said "...no".

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Could be.

Nice to hear it's 20 episodes of Bleach (according to the report from TZ) but for twice the price of the Naruto boxset it ought to have twice the amount of episodes.

[Master Moron]

I wouldn't say PoT is expensive at all.

Are you serious? I used to know these girls that charged $40 for an eighth of pot.

[blitzkrieg]

Are you serious? I used to know these girls that charged $40 for an eighth of pot.

Well depending on the quality, that really isn't that expensive.

[veemonjosh]

Are you serious? I used to know these girls that charged $40 for an eighth of pot.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Jacob T. Paschal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

New rule: The Prince of Tennis must from now on be abbreviated to tPoT.

[Captain Highwind]

Teapot?

...

Ho, ho, ho...

nothing is safe.

[Master Moron]

New rule: The Prince of Tennis must from now on be abbreviated to tPoT.

You know, you could just admit that all abbreviations are evil and just spell out The Prince of Tennis.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Or you could just stop taking advantage of that tired out joke but as a dedicated PoT-Head I bring up The Prince of Tennis so often that typing out The Prince of Tennis every time is wasted effort. So I'm going to keep refering to it as PoT.

[Duke]

I wouldn't say PoT is expensive at all. About 40 bucks for 13 episodes? That's one of the better deals out there. Only truely budget box sets are better deals than that. You know like DBZ Uncut boxsets (which as we both know are crushing the competition).
They're expensive in relation to other anmie boxsets, but that's because those boxsets are already paid for (usually) via the singles, with PoT doesn't have. Most anime fans aren't used to paying $40 for 13 episodes, they're used to paying $40 for 26 episodes.

It's rather funny, too. Many people want anime to be sold in boxsets only (a la other non-anime TV shows), thinking that they'll be $40-$50 like the budget boxsets, when in reality they would actually cost a similar amount to Prince of Tennis' sets. And if they include all 26 episodes in one set, it'd probably be Star Trek-type prices.


Edited anime still sells believe it or not. I would have thought a Pokemon fan would have been aware of that seeing as Pokemon movies are in the top 10 quite often. Sometimes even more than one.
Movies =/= TV series. The singles are selling decently, but aren't exactly flying off the shelves, and the whole "Top 10 Pokémon" stuff just bombed big time, even with the cost-cutting boxset.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

They're expensive in relation to other anmie boxsets, but that's because those boxsets are already paid for (usually) via the singles, with PoT doesn't have. Most anime fans aren't used to paying $40 for 13 episodes, they're used to paying $40 for 26 episodes.

Beg your pardon?

Maybe some anime, but last time I checked I was seeing Samurai Champloo boxsets priced at like $150 or higher, can't remember. I recall paying $120 for the Eva boxset a few years ago, and that was of previously released singles.

$40 for 13 episodes isn't all that bad, compared to some of those prices.

[Freedom Fighter]

Beg your pardon?

Maybe some anime, but last time I checked I was seeing Samurai Champloo boxsets priced at like $150 or higher, can't remember. I recall paying $120 for the Eva boxset a few years ago, and that was of previously released singles.

$40 for 13 episodes isn't all that bad, compared to some of those prices.That seems to be only a flaw of Geneon, as far as I know, because they rarely decrease prices for box sets. I should know... the box set for R.O.D. the TV was full price... $200 for all 26 episodes - I waited more than two years before I lucked out with a Right Stuf special that not only included the entire series, but both soundtrack CDs as well, all for $100.

Rarely does anyone but Geneon do it these days, apparently... and apparently, they keep doing it because enough people don't complain about it.

[Rocketboy]

Huh. It's not there anymore.

[Duke]

Beg your pardon?

Maybe some anime, but last time I checked I was seeing Samurai Champloo boxsets priced at like $150 or higher, can't remember. I recall paying $120 for the Eva boxset a few years ago, and that was of previously released singles.

$40 for 13 episodes isn't all that bad, compared to some of those prices.
That's Geneon's "all the singles in the artbox" release, which rarely happens anymore (in fact, if Tenchi is any indication, Geneon may be stopping that practice altogether). The majority of the boxsets are like ADV's thinpaks and Bandai's Anime Legends boxsets: 4-6 discs for $40-$50 MSRP.

And I paid $90 for Eva. Brand new, too.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

That's Geneon's "all the singles in the artbox" release, which rarely happens anymore (in fact, if Tenchi is any indication, Geneon may be stopping that practice altogether). The majority of the boxsets are like ADV's thinpaks and Bandai's Anime Legends boxsets: 4-6 discs for $40-$50 MSRP.

By definition, those thinpaks and Anime Legends sets are sets that are released several years later.

If we look at the first run boxsets, they're more expensive.

Looking at upcoming boxset releases:

Desert Punk $90 for 24 episodes.
Initial D: Second Stage $50 for 13 episodes
Kannazuki no Miko $60 for 13 episodes
Rumbling Hearts $50 for 14 episodes

Compared to some of these, Prince of Tennis and Naruto are pretty good deals, wouldn't you say?


And I paid $90 for Eva. Brand new, too.

Well, you got it at significantly under the MSRP, in the case. It went for $120 for 26 episodes.

[Duke]

By definition, those thinpaks and Anime Legends sets are sets that are released several years later.
Eh, not necessarily. Stuff like Kaleido Star, Cromartie, Princess Tutu, Planetes, and Mars Daybreak got boxsetted within a year of their final volume release.


If we look at the first run boxsets, they're more expensive.

Looking at upcoming boxset releases:

Desert Punk $90 for 24 episodes.
Initial D: Second Stage $50 for 13 episodes
Kannazuki no Miko $60 for 13 episodes
Rumbling Hearts $50 for 14 episodes
The thing with FUNi's recent boxsets is that they're including all the extras from the single disc releases, not just repackaging the discs. As evident from the upcoming 2-packs, just packaging the singles would put the boxsets pretty cheap, and the Naruto/Prince of Tennis extras aren't all that expensive (Well, the Naruto SE stuff is, but I'm focusing on the basic boxsets).

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Dunno man the basic Naruto set does come with a storyboard book even without the SE items. PoT doesn't get even that so I would assume that's why it costs less if for no other reason.

Bandai and ADV's budget releases are going to give you more bang for your buck but you need look no further to Viz's other releases to know that PoT and Naruto are pretty decently priced. Bleach is twice what it costs for Naruto for just 7 more episodes and Inuyasha for 26... my word the non-SE cost over 100 and I'm pretty sure those don't even have on-disc extras of note.

IMO the best deal in town right now is bar none DBZ uncut sets. That many episodes plus extras for a really decent price is hard to top.

Yes the Pokemon edited singles don't sell well but the movies still count. They're still edited afterall (albiet not much) or at the very least "dub only".

Now here's a question. How expensive (MSRP) was the Zeta Gundam complete box?

[GWOtaku]

Now here's a question. How expensive (MSRP) was the Zeta Gundam complete box?

The complete box set with all the extras was $200.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

The complete box set with all the extras was $200.

Two disc singles were $34.99, but I usually got 'em a little cheaper.

In fact, I wish other companies would do that, ten episodes, two discs, thirty-five bucks, that's a deal.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

The complete box set with all the extras was $200.

What kind of extras?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

What kind of extras?

Insert booklet, poster, 9 collectible pencil sharpeners.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Insert booklet, poster, 9 collectible pencil sharpeners.

I'm still pissed I never got my hands on one of those, espicially for that poster.

[Duke]

I'm still pissed I never got my hands on one of those, espicially for that poster.
While the poster does indeed rock (I have it hanging on my bedroom wall), the booklet was pretty good too (though I would've liked more commentary-ish writings) and the collector in me absolutely loved the sharpeners.

[Master Moron]

IMO the best deal in town right now is bar none DBZ uncut sets. That many episodes plus extras for a really decent price is hard to top.


Too bad they're missing a fifth of the picture...

[Funkatron]

Let's do the math, for people complaining about price.

The boxset contains 20 eps, which corresponds to singles volumes 1-5. The singles are 25 each MSRP, soooo

V1-5 = $125

vs.

Boxset = $90

$35 difference. I just have volume 1 of Bleach and yet its cheaper for me to get the boxset vs. continuing betting the singles.

boxset for me. Huzzah! Now show me a pic, viz!

[Jacob T. Paschal]

Let's do the math, for people complaining about price.

The boxset contains 20 eps, which corresponds to singles volumes 1-5. The singles are 25 each MSRP, soooo

V1-5 = $125

vs.

Boxset = $90

$35 difference. I just have volume 1 of Bleach and yet its cheaper for me to get the boxset vs. continuing betting the singles.

boxset for me. Huzzah! Now show me a pic, viz!

Yeah, but who is dumb enough to buy the MSRP these days?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Yeah, but who is dumb enough to buy the MSRP these days?

But it's a valid comparison.

Besides, it's not like singles get marked down while boxsets don't.

Anyways, even if you get the singles at $20 a pop, which is a good deal compared to MSRP, the MSRP of the boxset is still cheaper.

This may not be cheap by any means, but it is a better deal than the singles.

[Classic Speedy]

Plus you get a box to go with it. That's enough of an incentive for me.

[Jacob T. Paschal]

But it's a valid comparison.

Besides, it's not like singles get marked down while boxsets don't.

Anyways, even if you get the singles at $20 a pop, which is a good deal compared to MSRP, the MSRP of the boxset is still cheaper.

This may not be cheap by any means, but it is a better deal than the singles.


Plus you get a box to go with it. That's enough of an incentive for me.

Both accounts are quite true. Heck, I don't even see stores that charge MSRP anymore.

[Funkatron]

I just used MSRP as an example. Lets look at it from a discoutn point of view

Rightstuf is having a Viz sale right now. 40% off dvd's

singles 25 - 40% = 14.99

v1-5 = 74.95

Boxset - 40% = 53.99

And that still doesn't count if your a member of thier got anime club

[Duke]

However, that doesn't take into account consumer perception. A typical consumer is more willing to spend $150 for 5-6 DVDs over a span of 6 months or so than they are spending $100 for those same 5-6 DVDs in one boxset. Hell, that's why Starter Sets were created.

It's kind of the same deal as when a store puts a $4 product on a "2 for $8" sale and sees a profit spike.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

However, that doesn't take into account consumer perception. A typical consumer is more willing to spend $150 for 5-6 DVDs over a span of 6 months or so than they are spending $100 for those same 5-6 DVDs in one boxset. Hell, that's why Starter Sets were created.

It's kind of the same deal as when a store puts a $4 product on a "2 for $8" sale and sees a profit spike.

In other words, 'the average person is an idiot'.

Yes, I think we all knew this. But people were complaining about the price, which is a definite deal when compared to the singles.