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Sogturtle
02-08-2002, 01:01 AM
Was going through some of my Fleischer and Famous toons last night. Annnnnnd discovered something I forgot I had... Namely a tape with Fleischer's Color Classic "Vitamin Hay" (for which I never did have credits). A quick check online confirmed that evidently hardly anyone else has the cartoon as the title shows on Imdb and "The Big Cartoon..." without any credits.
Annnnnd I was rereading part of Shamus Culhane's autobiography, correcting some errors here and there. And rechecked his filmography in the back. Discovered that the crazy guy had left out fully 2/3 of the cartoons that he directed for Fleischer in 1940-'41 (i'd already added to his early Thirties Fleischer-ography). Have to surmise that he just didn't remember making those several Fleischer cartoons (much like he only remembered one Warner toon he animated on afterwards). Kinda funny (and sad).
Thad Komorowski
02-08-2002, 07:15 AM
What was the WB cartoon Cullhane animated?
-Thad
J Lee
02-08-2002, 11:16 AM
Culhane animated on Chuck Jones' "Inki and the Lion" but his autobiography contains a couple of animation roughs of Rudolf from Frank Tashlin's "Puss N' Booty" that are mis-identified as drawings of Sylvester.
Nftnat
02-08-2002, 11:18 AM
According to the credits information I got from Dave Mackey's site, that would be Inki & the Mynah Bird (Jones 1943).
J Lee
02-08-2002, 12:12 PM
You're right -- Culhane animated the lion in "Inki and the Mynah Bird" which is where I got mixed up.
BTW -- Judging by the drawings in Culhane's autobiography, he either animated or began work on the scene where Rudlof pretends to try and find Dickie-bird in "Puss 'N Booty" before he told Leon to do an imporssible sexual act and headed over to Universal.
Nftnat
02-08-2002, 01:07 PM
Interesting, the title of that toon he was in the process of animating juxtaposed with what he told Leon to do. And that's all I'm gonna say about that.
Thad Komorowski
02-08-2002, 02:45 PM
That's interesting, I figured it would have to be a cartoon from around that period.
-Thad
Jerry Beck
02-08-2002, 03:15 PM
Do you need the screen credits for VITAMIN HAY?
It will be included on the Color Classics DVD I put together for VCI (Its one of the pooer prints we dug up).
Direction: Dave Fleischer
Animation: David Tendlar, Otto Feuer
Story Bob Wickersham (mis-spelled on the U.M.&M. title as "Wickerskem")
Musical Arrangement: Sammy Timberg
Sogturtle
02-08-2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by J Lee
You're right -- Culhane animated the lion in "Inki and the Mynah Bird" which is where I got mixed up.
BTW -- Judging by the drawings in Culhane's autobiography, he either animated or began work on the scene where Rudlof pretends to try and find Dickie-bird in "Puss 'N Booty" before he told Leon to do an impossible sexual act and headed over to Universal.
John (and all)~
Shamus animated NOT ONLY the lion in "Inki and the Mynah Bird" buuuuut also INKI himself (I have drawings by Culhane of each character). His claim in the book was that Chuck had he and Bob Cannon animate the cartoon by themselves is interesting but never been substantiated that I know of...
As for "Puss 'N Booty", undoubtedly he did animate on it for his old pal Tashlin. Although Culhane was by his recollection placed in Jones' unit, it appears that he functioned for at least some of his employment there as a "floater" (much like Phil Monroe found himself doing in the same period). One source said to me that there were definitely other Culhane animated Warner toons as he had several drawings from them.
Final note to drive everyone crazy... Shamus Culhane even animated for... BOB CLAMPETT at Schlesingers!!! (*I wonder if anybody will be up late nights now trying to figure out which cartoon(s) Shamus worked on for Clampett...!! Ohhhhh Larry T....!! :) )
And Jerry, thanks but I got 'em already
Sogturtle
02-09-2002, 08:40 AM
Just discovered an ORIGINAL 1940 Fleischer poster for sale! Aaaaand since it's from a Culhane vehicle, seemed entirely appropriate for me to steer it your way...
http://www.tenangrypitbulls.com/auction2/kicktime.jpg
J Lee
02-09-2002, 10:16 AM
Nice to see that the Flesicher studio was having the same problem the Schlesinger studio was in 1940 getting their poster art to look anything like the animation on screen ;)
I was watching "A Kick In Time" yesterday, and it is interesting to see the different between Culhane and Euger's work and what the rest of Max's units were during at the time. Shamus' animation is better than what the average Fleischer director was turning out -- it's certainly not at the Disney level, but it's about at the level the majority of the Noveltoons would reach by 1944-45, after a lot of Don Graham's stuff and the other Mouse Factory rules had finally by osmosis filtered through the studio (Tyer, of course, being the very rebellous exception to that rule, which we talked about on the other thread).
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