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Game Freak 4
06-07-2007, 12:48 PM
Appearantly, Comedy Central is having a cartoon about America's most hated President.

Mikintosh
06-07-2007, 01:14 PM
Yes, yes he does. Show doesn't look as bad as That's My Bush, either.

The Overlord
06-07-2007, 01:38 PM
What will they do with this show, when Bush leaves office in a few years?

AnimatedSnow47
06-07-2007, 02:10 PM
The original Internet shorts were completely unfunny, totally one-sided, and so one-note as to be ridiculous. Then again, Comedy Central is a one-note network: uncreative, mean-spirited humor that is vapid and lifeless.

Game Freak 4
06-07-2007, 02:25 PM
Yes, yes he does. Show doesn't look as bad as That's My Bush, either.
Not that I care, but this bashing is becoming ridiculious.

MJC
06-07-2007, 02:42 PM
Appearantly, Comedy Central is having a cartoon about America's most hated President. Seriously, Does he need all this bashing?

Yes.

Michael24
06-07-2007, 02:49 PM
Appearantly, Comedy Central is having a cartoon about America's most hated President. Seriously, Does he need all this bashing?

No. A shame no one had the guts to make a Clinton-bashing cartoon years ago, the guy who really deserved it instead of all the butt-kissing from Hollywood.

Even though I'm sure the show will be even more relentless, unneeded bashing, I might check out the first episode just because the character design cracks me up everytime I see a promo for it.

SirLemming
06-07-2007, 03:20 PM
After reading the TZ article I feel a little better about it, but I still think it's an incredibly ill-advised show. Bush leaves office in less than 2 years, he's been made fun of by every TV show and comedian on the face of the Earth for the past 7 years, and what I've seen so far looks like it confirms my fears. "Watch my show or the terrorists win." "The best thing about my show is that it's not a book." That might have been funny in 2002.

sdp
06-07-2007, 03:35 PM
Post above me


I agree, this show looks lame mostly because its been done so many times before. OMG BUSH SUX LOL. Its not funny anymore. Its also a reason I dont like American Dad that much, now imagine a show that is ONLY based on Bush.

I'm sure it'll be a hit though including internationally.


What will they do with this show, when Bush leaves office in a few years?
well the faster the better ;D
Even if the show is very funny and the greatest show ever I would not trade more episodes for more years of him in office ;)

Mynd Hed
06-07-2007, 03:48 PM
I know it's tough when the topic at hand is this overtly political, but let's try to keep our own personal political biases out of this discussion. The issue is not whether Bush "deserves" to be satirized, but whether this show stands a chance of being any good at it. Let's try and avoid yet another tired circular political debate if we can possibly do so.

Silverstar
06-07-2007, 04:00 PM
It looks lame, not to mention soon to be extremely dated, since Bush will be leaving office in a year.

Kuroba
06-07-2007, 04:12 PM
It doesn't look all that funny to me and I'm not a fan of the president either. It might of worked a few years ago, it's kind of late now considering he's out of office next year.

90'sCartoonMan
06-07-2007, 04:39 PM
No. A shame no one had the guts to make a Clinton-bashing cartoon years ago, the guy who really deserved it instead of all the butt-kissing from Hollywood.

Does that old MTV show hosted by an animated Clinton count?

Beat
06-07-2007, 05:21 PM
That's My Bush seemed more original than this. Not for anything, but political humor is very, very hard to keep fresh.

Henk55
06-07-2007, 05:48 PM
All those South Park-knock off wanna be stuff looks like it could be made up by any half-decent jockster from the internet.

Tobias
06-07-2007, 06:13 PM
They're offering a sneak peak of this show On Demand with episodes of certain CC shows. I didn't laugh ONCE.

Blackstar
06-07-2007, 06:25 PM
I really have to wonder why Comedy Central thought another George W. Bush series would be a good idea at a time when the Bush administration is on the way out. The time to have busted out with this was during Bush's 1st (or the beginning of his 2nd) term in office.

Dr.Pepper
06-07-2007, 06:37 PM
This show will not last long. It might make an okay special but as a TV seires... uh no

judyindisguise
06-07-2007, 07:50 PM
Appearantly, Comedy Central is having a cartoon about America's most hated President.

CC is making a toon about Harry Truman????:eek:

Seriously, Truman's approval ratings were down to 29% at one point during his Presidency. Thus he beats Bush when it comes to public short-sightedness....er, disapproval. ;)

The thing is, some of our greatest Presidents were savagely reviled during their time, and one of those presidents was Lincoln. So for that reason (and others, such as its poor quality is only equal to its blatant bias) I don't give a damn about Comedy Central's stupid cartoon. If I want to watch a good toon that contains clever social commentary that's delivered in a even-handed fashion, I'll watch South Park.

Neo Ultra Mike
06-07-2007, 08:04 PM
Although I did hear that Matt and Trey were glad that it was Bush since they wanted him more as the central figure since I believe they say if they're any party they're Republican. Of course that was back in 2001 when the show first (and only) started airing so they're opinons could of changed by then.

Yeah Lil Bush dosen't look like a long lasting show, but maybe that's the point: a quick one season diddy about Bush or so to get people watching CC for some reason during the summer into the new fall season. I mean really Im' sure even CC knows they're no long term appeal in a Bush show so late in his presidencey run. I'll at least give it a first episode run, since it's guaranteed to be better then some other short run CC shows (at the very least it will be better then Kid Notorious, no matter how much you think it may suck).

Don_East
06-07-2007, 08:33 PM
Um, you mean like "Lil Bill and Hill", from a few years ago?

http://www.ironicsans.com/2006/09/lil_bush_seems_strangely_familiar.html

That was proposed in 2002. Years after Bill left.

The Myst
06-08-2007, 02:04 AM
Although I did hear that Matt and Trey were glad that it was Bush since they wanted him more as the central figure since I believe they say if they're any party they're Republican. Of course that was back in 2001 when the show first (and only) started airing so they're opinons could of changed by then.

Yeah Lil Bush dosen't look like a long lasting show, but maybe that's the point: a quick one season diddy about Bush or so to get people watching CC for some reason during the summer into the new fall season. I mean really Im' sure even CC knows they're no long term appeal in a Bush show so late in his presidencey run. I'll at least give it a first episode run, since it's guaranteed to be better then some other short run CC shows (at the very least it will be better then Kid Notorious, no matter how much you think it may suck).

Matt and Trey are Libertarians. Though I think Matt is registered as a Republican.

R. Escobar
06-08-2007, 12:48 PM
They cancel Drawn Together for this?

The Myst
06-08-2007, 09:49 PM
I just watched one of the Amp'd Mobile shorts on YouTube. I feel like I've wasted my time. They stole 5 minutes from me and I can never get it back.

Dark Fact
06-08-2007, 11:21 PM
The thing with most political satire cartoons is that when they become outdated, the outdatedness hits you like a ton of bricks. It's not just for cartoons, look at sketch comedies from days yore making fun of politicians. If the politician isn't running or has some kind of current power, people just won't find the material funny anymore. One example of this was during the second season of Saturday Night Live where Dan Akroyd kept on doing his Nixon impersonations despite the fact that Carter was in office at the time. Watergate passed, Nixon resigned, show's over. Yet, Lorne Michaels and a few of the other SNL crew loved Akroyd's impersonations so much that they had him do it on and on for the rest of the season despite the audience being fed up. Had Nixon still been in office and the whole country giving him hell over Watergate, the material would've been a lot funnier because it would've been easier to relate.

This is why I'm starting to think about American Dad's future on FOX. It's a lot easier for the show to have its bearings due to Bush's War On Terror and his negative reputation with the rest of the american people. But after he leaves office and his successor takes the helm, how is the show going to work? Sure, it can parody the new successor's role in office but will it leave that much of an impact to the viewing audience to find it funny? If not, Amercian Dad is as good as cancelled.

Zorak Masaki
06-08-2007, 11:25 PM
American Dad doesnt need politics to be succesful though. Several of the best eps of the series ("black mystery month","the best Christmas story never", "all about steve", "stan of arabia") dont really rely on current events at all.

R. Escobar
06-08-2007, 11:26 PM
This is why I'm starting to think about American Dad's future on FOX. It's a lot easier for the show to have its bearings due to Bush's War On Terror and his negative reputation with the rest of the american people. But after he leaves office and his successor takes the helm, how is the show going to work? Sure, it can parody the new successor's role in office but will it leave that much of an impact to the viewing audience to find it funny? If not, Amercian Dad is as good as cancelled.


I think American Dad can continue to be funny because its not a show that directly satirizes the PRESIDENT, but the GOVERMENT, which is here to stay, not to mention the countless american issues that will continue to pop up they can joke about.

Blackstar
06-08-2007, 11:32 PM
I only watched the 1st few episodes of American Dud! (not a typo), but I had to stop watching it because I couldn't stand what an unbearable ass Stan Smith is. When your lead character is unlikeable, it's hard to follow along with a show, because you don't want it's star to succeed.

Back on topic: That's the problem with political/social humor; when writers feed and clothe themselves on it, they always end up dating themselves ferociously. That's why when writing comedy, it's best not to do too many jokes relating to "now".

Beat
06-09-2007, 10:06 AM
And that's why something with politics as a background rather than a general focus like That's My Bush will always be funnier than the "LOL, politics" approach of something like Lil' Bush.

SirLemming
06-09-2007, 10:57 AM
There are definitely a few misunderstandings about the source of American Dad's humor here, but I guess that would be best left to another thread. To be brief, let's just say that Family Guy has made far more jokes about the Bush administration and conservatism/Republicanism in general than AD has. Or at least, the kind of jokes that are specifically motivated by current events.

Mad Mod 49
06-09-2007, 05:21 PM
This is as bad as the Clinton bashing that happened after he left the White House.

If you want to bash a president in a media-show, do it during his freakin' TERM IN OFFICE! :mad:

Tobias
06-09-2007, 05:54 PM
The ads for this show make my eyes and ears hurt. If the jokes in the promos (Don't be mean to your brother, you might need him to rig an election one day) are the BEST they can come up with, this show will last about as long as Freak Show.

Master Moron
06-10-2007, 07:59 PM
I saw an a story about this on CNN earlier tonight at about 6. I don't know any of the CNN anchors so I don't know the name of the guy doing the interview, but he was interviewing one of the creators of Lil' Bush. The interviewer asked if a cartoon would be the appropriate forum for a show like this since kids might be watching. He asked this same question THREE TIMES. And every time the answer was the same. This isn't any different than the Simpsons, South Park, or Family Guy. I think after being asked the question a third time he threw in that it was going to air late at night and not on Saturday mornings.

The interviewer seemed to try to make the idea of a cartoon making fun of Bush controversial. I can't believe that anybody could find something so unoriginal controversial. I mean, the interviewer was acting as though comedy shows haven't been making fun of Bush for the past six years.

At the end of the interview the interviewer complimented the show and said it was funny. His endorsement almost makes me less interested in this show.

By the way, to all of those who think that Clinton deserves a cartoon more, you will see Clinton and Hilary in Lil' Bush. Though, from the clip I saw, they won't be any funnier than the other characters.

Tobias
06-10-2007, 08:28 PM
The interviewer asked if a cartoon would be the appropriate forum for a show like this since kids might be watching. He asked this same question THREE TIMES. And every time the answer was the same. This isn't any different than the Simpsons, South Park, or Family Guy.

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Except for the fact that those three shows are actually FUNNY and have long shelf lives.

Alex Toon
07-08-2007, 12:34 PM
I'm pretty much in consensus with everyone else here- this Bush-bashing is too little, too late. You don't need to have comedic genius to make fun of the President, no matter what his approval ratings are.
Now, if it was making fun of Congress and the White House in general, maybe it would be better.

CartoonSwim69
07-08-2007, 04:30 PM
Why is this show still on?

Is there anyone around here that still watches this?

Tobias
07-08-2007, 04:47 PM
I believe Comedy Central still has three more episodes left to air, then they'll toss it into the junk pile the Naked Trucker, Freak Show, and Con.

TKnHappyNess
07-08-2007, 04:59 PM
Why don't they just air the George Bush Show episodes from Ebolaworld? Those are good.