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JohnCrichton
06-06-2007, 09:29 AM
Was it a fevered dream, or was there once a poster around these parts that went by the name, Matt Wilson?

Captain Highwind
06-06-2007, 09:33 AM
T'was all in your head. :p

JohnCrichton
06-06-2007, 09:45 AM
Oh, okay..... cuz I could've swore.... and then recently I saw the name again behind some video game that's coming out.

Man, this Claritin is really messing me up. I don't know what is real anymore... O_o

SirLemming
06-06-2007, 09:46 AM
The Administration denies any knowledge of Matt Wilson's whereabouts. This press conference is over.

Captain Highwind
06-06-2007, 09:46 AM
Perhaps it was a joke account created by the mods to take turns relieving Internet stress.

JohnCrichton
06-06-2007, 09:58 AM
You speak in riddles and half-truths! *feeling dizzy*

I'm.... I'm gonna get to the bottom of this... you... ugh... your mind tricks won't work on mE!

O_o?????

Lord Dalek
06-06-2007, 10:13 AM
Matt Wilson ascended to a higher level of being. Now he simply tells people they suck through the power of cellular mitosis.

JohnCrichton
06-06-2007, 10:28 AM
I've done some research and I found out.... the answer is more horrifying than I could have possibly imagined... Matt Wilson is-- :eek: *kkkkkkkkkkkccccccccccczzzzzzhcccchhhhhh*

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Shawn Hopkins
06-06-2007, 10:47 AM
My sig is a Matt Wilson quote, to commemorate his reasoned and tolerant debate style.

Timmay
06-06-2007, 11:04 AM
He was assassinated by the other Matt Wilson. That whole story still boggles my mind.

PC!
06-06-2007, 11:46 AM
The man finally collapsed in on himself.




It was only a matter of time. >.>

SirLemming
06-06-2007, 11:50 AM
I guess it's about time for a serious answer before this thread dissolves into nothing: http://couchslave.blogspot.com

GWOtaku
06-06-2007, 12:13 PM
Incidentally, search for the user "killtacular" and you can find all of Matt's old posts. Yeah, I don't get the change either.

Leviathan
06-06-2007, 12:53 PM
Other Longtime TZ veterans have also left for various reasons. I guess MAtt decided to move on to Bigger and Better things.

Master Moron
06-06-2007, 01:04 PM
Actually, Matt Wilson/Killtacular did make one post in the videogames board earlier this year. So, he's not gone completely.


My sig is a Matt Wilson quote, to commemorate his reasoned and tolerant debate style.

You win the thread.

Kury Wagner
06-06-2007, 03:35 PM
I think we have some sort of unstated rule about getting into the personal business of (ex)mods and members, don't we?

shoujoaifan
06-06-2007, 03:54 PM
I guess it's about time for a serious answer before this thread dissolves into nothing: http://couchslave.blogspot.com Its tough that alot of his computer equipment got stolen, not just because it might've ended ESUU before it started, but its going to make things in general tougher for him with school, his plans, and his career, which was bad enough with that the whole 2 Matt Wilson's debacle awhile back, but more importantly, getting your stuff stolen just sucks for anyone, noone deserves that.

I read his most recent post a few weeks ago. Every now and than I'll check his old site to check for updates, or just watch a few of the ol' toons. Say what you will about his cyncism, he does know alot about what he's talking about. He's a perfectionist to a fault, which has made things harder for him, and he even admitted to hating "Bonus Stage", his own creation afterwhile, which was just animation practice for him.

But it was a funny show, one of the best of the beginner animations on the web, which is so filled with crap, and for all his pessimism, he was at least honest with his opinions, and put alot of stupid noobs into their places when they were harassing other members and making other newcomers look bad.



You will be missed, Matt Wilson. Some won't remember you fondly, but most will give credit where credit is due, and through the good and the bad, it was always a wild trip. Good luck on your further adventures.

Duke
06-06-2007, 04:01 PM
Matt Wilson ascended to a higher level of being. Now he simply tells people they suck through the power of cellular mitosis.
Would that be a violation of the law of non-interference?

veemonjosh
06-10-2007, 08:35 AM
I think we have some sort of unstated rule about getting into the personal business of (ex)mods and members, don't we?

And yet I still stalk Timbox around the intarweb to this day. :sweat:

Kagetsu
06-10-2007, 05:09 PM
I simply ignored this for a while. I have no idea what greater power drew me in but gosh some of these are funny:anime:

Kaoru
06-12-2007, 01:02 AM
Oh, sorry man, he died. :sad: Car accident. :( :crying: :crying:







That's what a friend of mine would say when asked where is someone. :p I didn't like Bonusstage but I'd watch a few eps if they were still online. The only thing from him I liked was the Popeye re-dub.

Leaping Larry Jojo
06-14-2007, 01:54 PM
Honestly, I never had a problem with him. He was always pretty cool with me, but we never interacted much anyway.

mojokingbee1
06-28-2007, 10:17 PM
He still posts on the Something Awful forums.

RD!
06-30-2007, 10:56 PM
I've done some research and I found out.... the answer is more horrifying than I could have possibly imagined... Matt Wilson is-- :eek: *kkkkkkkkkkkccccccccccczzzzzzhcccchhhhhh*

[END TRANSMISSION]

(((((((JohnCrichton has been banned.)))))))

what is your something awful name lets be buddies

EscaflownePilot
07-01-2007, 02:28 PM
*shrugs*

I never understood his somewhat poor reputation here. He was easily my favorite poster because, for as uncompromising as he often was, he still was one of the smartest posters here - most don't like to admit it, but part of the reason he acted like he could do no wrong was because, 98% of the time, he was right about whatever he was talking about. I almost felt bad that it got to the point where so many here took such great pride in seeing him proven wrong the few times he was, but then that just further speaks to how often he was right, I guess.

I always enjoyed his posts and would usually become involved in threads I otherwise wouldn't have if he was a strong participant in it. And that's not because I wasn't ever picked on by him - I was as much or more than anybody, but I also realized all the while just how knowledgeable he is and how much potential he has. It's really too bad he's committed to hiding from the forums because, frankly, with all the timboxes we have around here we kind of need people like him to bring balance to the universe.

DarthGonzo
07-02-2007, 10:35 PM
*shrugs*

I never understood his somewhat poor reputation here. He was easily my favorite poster because, for as uncompromising as he often was, he still was one of the smartest posters here - most don't like to admit it, but part of the reason he acted like he could do no wrong was because, 98% of the time, he was right about whatever he was talking about. I almost felt bad that it got to the point where so many here took such great pride in seeing him proven wrong the few times he was, but then that just further speaks to how often he was right, I guess.

I always enjoyed his posts and would usually become involved in threads I otherwise wouldn't have if he was a strong participant in it. And that's not because I wasn't ever picked on by him - I was as much or more than anybody, but I also realized all the while just how knowledgeable he is and how much potential he has. It's really too bad he's committed to hiding from the forums because, frankly, with all the timboxes we have around here we kind of need people like him to bring balance to the universe.

Amen to that!

Atoon
07-03-2007, 01:39 AM
I love his post, but it kinda freak me out when I think that he's right about everything, because I feel like a moron if I think something different to him; and each time I start to like or to hate something I think "What Matt Wilson should think about it?". The doubt exasperates me.

J'onn J'onzz
07-04-2007, 07:53 AM
I love his post, but it kinda freak me out when I think that he's right about everything, because I feel like a moron if I think something different to him; and each time I start to like or to hate something I think "What Matt Wilson should think about it?". The doubt exasperates me.
You shouldn't care what Matt Wilson would think about a show if you're considering whether or not it's good. Matt Wilson is just a person on the internet, even if he was awesome. He shouldn't affect your opinion.

Alex Weitzman
07-04-2007, 04:18 PM
A camper caught him on video out in the Pacific Northwest woods. The tape is fuzzy, though.

Jeff Harris
07-04-2007, 08:48 PM
Incidentally, search for the user "killtacular" and you can find all of Matt's old posts. Yeah, I don't get the change either.I not only get the change, but I also know WHY he changed his user name. Neither here nor there to discuss it at this juncture.

You know something? Even though we went to blows from time to time back in the day, Matt is one of the few people I could legitimately say I respect around here. He isn't fake nor sychophantic in his comment and attitudes about things. Yeah, he's arrogant as hell, but unlike many around here, he could definitely back everything he says up.

Kind of miss the guy myself. I know and respect why he left because, at times, I share his attitudes.

Peter Paltridge
07-04-2007, 08:58 PM
He was dead wrong about Pixar. "They only make buddy pictures" is such a dim generalization.

And he called every single other webcomic than his own "stupid, niche and unappealing." IN HIS FREAKING SIG.

Whether Matt was right or wrong about something, his ego didn't make any of his opinions sound appealing. Matt could say "Anyone who doesn't love ice cream is a brain-dead moron," and I'd question my love of ice cream.

RD!
07-04-2007, 09:18 PM
And he called every single other webcomic than his own "stupid, niche and unappealing." IN HIS FREAKING SIG.
Sounds pretty true to me.

Jeff Harris
07-04-2007, 09:28 PM
He was dead wrong about Pixar. "They only make buddy pictures" is such a dim generalization.Well, that is true. They do shorts with solo characters, but ALL of their feature films are indeed "buddy pictures."

Toy Story: Two rival toys become friends.
A Bug's Life: An ant makes friends of all species.
Toy Story 2: The characters save their one friend who makes friends elsewhere.
Monsters, Inc: A pair of monster buddies try to hide a human child while trying to keep their scare electric plant running.
Finding Nemo: A dad searching for his son makes friends with this braindead ditz while his son makes friends with other captured fish.
The Incredibles: A pair of heroes fight crime on the side before training to become a special agent of sorts.
Cars: A rebellious car trains under the direction of a veteran racer while his best friend cheers him on.
Ratatoullie: A rat meets a garbage boy and together becomes the toast of the culinary world while his best friend cheers him on.

Wonder what Wall-E's going to be like . . .

Maybe I'm not seeing Pixar movies with blinders on like a lot of folks, but they pretty much all have the buddy theme going in each film.


And he called every single other webcomic than his own "stupid, niche and unappealing." IN HIS FREAKING SIG.Well, you know, that's Matt being Matt. Take it as you will.

Creators tend to hate on other creators' projects from time to time, mostly because they didn't think of it first or somebody has a lot of success from it (see EVERYTHING John K. and his acolytes type about Family Guy, Batman: TAS, South Park, anything computer animated not from Pixar, anything that isn't from Aardman, any anime, and any modern cartoon). And even when he had success, Matt didn't really want it. A lot of titles are derivatives of other familiar formulas, and I think Matt feels that he is above that, but that might be reading too much into his comments.

As for myself, I try to ignore critics of my work. I remain positive to a point, and I'll work until I'm satisfied with the end product. I'm kind of a perfectionist, I want things to be right. That's kind of what Matt is also, I believe.

Alex Weitzman
07-04-2007, 10:18 PM
A Bug's Life: An ant makes friends of all species.
Toy Story 2: The characters save their one friend who makes friends elsewhere.
The Incredibles: A pair of heroes fight crime on the side before training to become a special agent of sorts.

Arguably speaking, these three don't really fit the "buddy film" formula, which primarily concerns itself with a duo. (Toy Story 2 comes close only because the first one was so obviously a buddy film. Otherwise, it doesn't have the buddy structure at all.) But the rest of the Pixar oeuvre could be argued for; not that it would change how excellent they all are.

Jave
07-04-2007, 10:28 PM
And he called every single other webcomic than his own "stupid, niche and unappealing." IN HIS FREAKING SIG.Wait, Matt had a webcomic? I recall a couple of High Score strips back when the webtoon was in its early stages, but I don't seem to remember a webcomic in a steady basis.

I remember the signature saying something like "People need to stop rushing drawings and realize how unappealing their webcomics are". He was refering to the thousands of people who churn out crappy webcomics every day and expect to get a job in the industry with that. There are so many Penny Arcade and RPGWorld wannabees (two webcomics Matt admitted to liking) these days that it's just flat out annoying.

Captain Highwind
07-04-2007, 10:49 PM
I remember the signature saying something like "People need to stop rushing drawings and realize how unappealing their webcomics are".

I thought it was, "People who say they cannot make a living off of their webcomic need to step back and look at how niche, crappy, and unappealing their webcomic is."

Do I get a prize for remembering all that?

Jave
07-04-2007, 11:10 PM
I thought it was, "People who say they cannot make a living off of their webcomic need to step back and look at how niche, crappy, and unappealing their webcomic is."

Do I get a prize for remembering all that?I believe that was what it said, yeah.

Your prize is... NOTHING! There's no prize, there was never a prize! It was something people invented to get students motivated!

As consolation, here's a tuna can.

mojokingbee1
07-05-2007, 12:21 AM
He was dead wrong about Pixar. "They only make buddy pictures" is such a dim generalization.

And he called every single other webcomic than his own "stupid, niche and unappealing." IN HIS FREAKING SIG.

Whether Matt was right or wrong about something, his ego didn't make any of his opinions sound appealing. Matt could say "Anyone who doesn't love ice cream is a brain-dead moron," and I'd question my love of ice cream.

I'm pretty sure he lost most of his ego right after finding out that there was another Matt Wilson.

Maxie Zeus
07-05-2007, 02:27 AM
Well, that is true. They do shorts with solo characters, but ALL of their feature films are indeed "buddy pictures."

I'm with Alex. Calling "A Bug's Life" or "The Incredibles" "buddy pictures" is to stretch the term past the breaking point. If a movie about a married couple is a "buddy picture," then every movie with two or more characters is a "buddy picture."

Casablanca: Rick Blaine tries to reconnect with his buddy, Ilsa Lund, but she's already got another buddy.
Citizen Kane: The late Charles Foster Kane's buddies try figure out what made him tick.
Amadeus: Mismatched buddies "Wolfie" Mozart and "Tony" Salieri drive each other nuts in 4/4 time.

That said, there is something very formulaic about Pixar's pictures, though I think it's the "personal growth" theme that keeps showing up. By now, the "character looks down disconsolately while Randy Newman sings that same damn song he keeps writing for John Lasseter" scene is as cliched as Movie Trailer Guy's "In a world ..." speech.

On-topic: When you hate everything (be you Matt Wilson or John K.) you're bound to be right at least 90% of the time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law).

RD!
07-05-2007, 08:17 AM
I'm with Alex. Calling "A Bug's Life" or "The Incredibles" "buddy pictures" is to stretch the term past the breaking point. If a movie about a married couple is a "buddy picture," then every movie with two or more characters is a "buddy picture."
Its a sort-of take on Seven Samurai which is kind of a buddy picture in the sense that... they all become friends so... maybe?

Antiyonder
07-06-2007, 10:56 PM
They're all centered around a supposed brother, confirmation would help:

1. He's trying to help his brother Wade against some Merc named Deadpool.

2. He's been in contact with his brother Slade, concerning some Teenage Titans.

3. Ok, not his brother, but his Uncle George, on his death bed made a request for Matt. To assassinate some menacing kid named Dennis.

G1Ravage
07-12-2007, 01:43 PM
Ah, Matt Wilson. Those were good days.

Akelexre
07-13-2007, 10:28 PM
*shrugs*

I never understood his somewhat poor reputation here. He was easily my favorite poster because, for as uncompromising as he often was, he still was one of the smartest posters here - most don't like to admit it, but part of the reason he acted like he could do no wrong was because, 98% of the time, he was right about whatever he was talking about. I almost felt bad that it got to the point where so many here took such great pride in seeing him proven wrong the few times he was, but then that just further speaks to how often he was right, I guess.

I always enjoyed his posts and would usually become involved in threads I otherwise wouldn't have if he was a strong participant in it. And that's not because I wasn't ever picked on by him - I was as much or more than anybody, but I also realized all the while just how knowledgeable he is and how much potential he has. It's really too bad he's committed to hiding from the forums because, frankly, with all the timboxes we have around here we kind of need people like him to bring balance to the universe.

I agree with this post.

Matt too often was a jerk, but he knew his s--t. He was an animation fan through and through, not just an anime fan or American animation fan or DCAU fan or web animation fan or whatever. He had high standards and informed opinions. He could spot flaws in animation and story telling that many people here seem to either miss or allow to slide. 9 out of 10 times I agreed with what he said, and even during those few times I didn't (his love for Ed, Ed & Eddy is an example that comes to mind) I could at least understand why he thought the way he thought.

I stopped coming to Toonzone on the regular once he dissappeared.

I don't know where he is, and he'll probably never even read this, but I do wish him the best, and I hope he knows that there are fellow animation fans who miss him, jerkiness and all.

Later,
Alexander

Scythemantis
07-30-2007, 07:52 PM
I don't know where people got the idea that Matt "hates everything" or even hates many things. He hated exactly the number of things I'd expect a normal person to hate. Perhaps the average TZer only took notice because he hated two or three things that happen to be inexplicably popular here.

As for Bonus Stage, it very obviously was just practice and I'll never understand how it earned a devoted fan following. The five cartoons I've made thus far are better than the entire series, and I have no confidence in my writing at all.

I enjoyed what I saw of his upcoming projects, though, and he had some valuable philosophies on writing and animating that I wish I'd payed better attention to.