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Bat-Man
05-07-2007, 06:36 PM
I've collected all multiverse episodes from the DC Animated Universe and created this DC Animated Multiverse:
EARTH-1:
All current superheroes and villains, DC Animated Universe
(Animated series: Batman, Superman, Batman Beyond, Static, Zeta, Justice League)

EARTH-2:
Justice Guild of America
(Justice League episode: Legends)

EARTH-3
Justice Lords
(Justice League episode: A Better World)

EARTH-4
Justice League of America
(Justice League: The New Frontier - upcoming DTV)
(Appearence of Hal Jordan in JLU episode: The Once and Future Thing, part 2)

EARTH-5
The Batman
(The Batman: Animated Series)

THE FOURTH WORLD
Darkseid, Orion, High Father, Big Barda
(Superman: The Animates Series)
(Justice League)

EARTH-162
Alternate version of Superman
(Superman TAS episode: Brave New Metropolis)

EARTH-247
The Legion of Super Heroes
(The Legion of Super Heroes: Animated Series)

EARTH-462
Teen Titans
(Teen Titans: The Animated Series)

EARTH-A
Crime Syndicate of America
(unproduced Justice League DTV: Justice League: Worlds Collide)

EARTH B
Alternate version of Superman
(Superman: Brainiac Attacks)

EARTH-C
Krypto The Superdog and Ace The Bat-Hound
(Krypto The Superdog: The Animated Series)

EARTH D
Alternate version of Superman
(Superman: Doomsday - upcoming DTV)

Alph
05-07-2007, 06:46 PM
Are we ever given any indication that New Genesis and Apokalyps are in a different universe in the DCAU? They always seemed to imply that they were in the same universe.

Heck, Brainiac gets there.

The Weed Of Cri
05-07-2007, 08:28 PM
Is there any particular reason you've given each of the JL-DTVs their own universe? Is there any evidence that these DTVs are in seperate continuities, or even that they are separate from the Earth-1 Justice League. New voice actors don't count. If you include Batman Beyond in the Earth-1 continuity, Superman has already had three voice actors in the Earth-1 series. (Although I agree Brainiac Attacks is a separate continuity because that movie clearly has a very different Lex Luthor from the one we're used to.)

Also, the future Earth of The Once And Future Thing - Part 2 should probably have its own Earth, since it is an extrapolation of future events that may not occur on Earth-1 now that several key figures in that timeline have forknowledge of it. And since JLU ended without a reconciliation between Green Lantern and Hawkgirl, it calls into question how much of Batman Beyond is part of the Earth-1 continuity. No reconciliation means no Warhawk, which changes the dynamic of several key event in Terry McGinnis' (and thus Bruce Wayne's) life.

Shows like The Batman, Teen Titans, and Legion aren't really connected to the Timmverse series (although you could make a credible case for Titans), so what was your criteria for including these shows in DCAU? Shouldn't you also have a separate Earth for the 1988 Superman series? What about the Superfriends? I know, I like to pretend they don't exist too, but if you do that, you're being exclusionist.

BCVM22
05-07-2007, 10:40 PM
It was said in the comics that the war that destroyed the Old Gods and created New Genesis and Apokolips separated the Fourth World from the rest of the universe and made them accessible only by Boom Tube.

That said, the DCAU has definitely seemed to waffle on the issue. On the various occasions we've seen characters travel from Earth to either planet, it's been via Boom Tube. However, after the Legion of Doom's spacecraft was destroyed by Darkseid at the end of JLU, leaving the surviving villains floating in a power ring bubble, Lex described New Genesis as "nearby" and there didn't seem to be any indicator that there was any dimension-hopping going on with Lex's shenanigans.

Either way, though, I don't think it's meant to be a completely separate reality, more like part of the universe that's been phased just outside the rest of space.

danreyes1
05-07-2007, 11:44 PM
What about the pre-Diniverse DC animated shows? Shows like Superfriends and the Fleisher Superman cartoons?

Hades
05-08-2007, 12:51 AM
Oh god, why why are you making this stuff into the Multiverse? The comics were already confusing enough with that garbage in teh 70s and 80s, and now with 52.

Oh, and where are Earths 6-161?

Harvey Two Face
05-08-2007, 06:39 AM
Just to let you know if you hav'nt realised if you look this up on wikipedia there are actually wuite a lot more than what's just listed here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse_(DC_Comics)

BCVM22
05-08-2007, 01:22 PM
Just to let you know if you hav'nt realised if you look this up on wikipedia there are actually wuite a lot more than what's just listed here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse_(DC_Comics)

I have a hunch that the original poster was well aware of the comics' Multiverse concept and was using that as a springboard to try and collect the various modern animated iterations of the characters into their own multiverse. As an aside, the Wiki link you provide doesn't actually lead to an article.

Of course, since the animated characters have made the occasional appearance in the comics as "alternate versions," that could mean that the DCAU and associated alternate realities are simply more alternate Earths of the comic Multiverse. That debate, though, could be a whole different black hole that I don't wish to fall into.

Jeff Harris
05-08-2007, 06:54 PM
If you want to extend the animated "multiverse," you could always add these DCAUs:

Earth-RS2
Ruby-Spears' Superman 1988 (Superman and Wonder Woman)

Earth-HB1
Superfriends/Super Powers/possibly the Scooby-Doo Batman appearances

Earth-RS1
Ruby-Spears Plastic Man

Earth-FM1
Filmation DC series (Superman, Batman, Teen Titans, Justice League of America, Green Lantern, The Flash, and Aquaman)

Earth-FM2
Shazzam! (Captain Marvel)

Earth-Fleischer
Superman theatrical shorts

Anthonynotes
05-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Earth-HB1
Superfriends/Super Powers/possibly the Scooby-Doo Batman appearances


Hmm....per a debate on the Boomerang forum about the "Hanna-Barbera multiverse", I have doubts that Scooby-Doo's in the same universe as the Superfriends; the only superheroes ever shown in Scooby's world seemed to be "realistic" non-superpowered ones (Blue Falcon and Dynomutt; Batman and Robin and related elements/characters).

Though granted, the notion that "wherever Batman's shown, Superman sooner or later follows (and vice-versa)", might be possible...

-B.

The Weed Of Cri
05-09-2007, 10:47 PM
Oh god, why why are you making this stuff into the Multiverse? The comics were already confusing enough with that garbage in teh 70s and 80s, and now with 52.

Oh, and where are Earths 6-161?

Oh, come on, Hades. The multiverse leads to stuff like Superman teaming up with Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew, and Black Canary passing herself off as her own mother for 20 years and nobody notices. What's not to like about that?

Anthonynotes
05-10-2007, 09:30 PM
Oh, come on, Hades. The multiverse leads to stuff like Superman teaming up with Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew, and Black Canary passing herself off as her own mother for 20 years and nobody notices. What's not to like about that?

Hey, I liked Capt. Carrot (and, well, the multiverse more than the single-universe-setup)! What *should've* become a cartoon instead of "Loonatics"... :-)

-B.
Isn't as keen on the Black Canary retcon mentioned above (which the description of is a bit off, but too convoluted to go into here...)

jv2k
05-10-2007, 09:54 PM
Oh god, why why are you making this stuff into the Multiverse? The comics were already confusing enough with that garbage in teh 70s and 80s, and now with 52.

Oh, and where are Earths 6-161?
How is it remotely confusing? I'm really getting tired of hearing this. It is so simple a child can understand. On one earth we have one group of heroes and in another dimension/earth things are different from the other earth.

It can be confusing when handled badly like "earth 345 is like earth 1 only superman's curl points in the opposite direction and thats why the art was different in that issue". But for the most multiverses aren't usually handled that badly.

Harvey Two Face
05-11-2007, 04:01 AM
I have a hunch that the original poster was well aware of the comics' Multiverse concept and was using that as a springboard to try and collect the various modern animated iterations of the characters into their own multiverse. As an aside, the Wiki link you provide doesn't actually lead to an article.

Of course, since the animated characters have made the occasional appearance in the comics as "alternate versions," that could mean that the DCAU and associated alternate realities are simply more alternate Earths of the comic Multiverse. That debate, though, could be a whole different black hole that I don't wish to fall into.

Oh well I was just trying to contribute but meh I can't really be bothered keeping up with all the different Earths, I just mash it all together even though it would completely contradict itself. Would it be possible to mash all the Earths together?

BCVM22
05-11-2007, 04:35 AM
Oh well I was just trying to contribute but meh I can't really be bothered keeping up with all the different Earths, I just mash it all together even though it would completely contradict itself. Would it be possible to mash all the Earths together?

It's been done. Go read Crisis on Infinite Earths.

SaBaWoJuLe
05-11-2007, 04:44 PM
Cool, multiverse. Here's mine. Umm, make sure you read it all before you comment:

Earth-1962: Justice Guild of America universe
"This Earth is where the JGA existed on, and in turned was a comic book series on another Earth. Whatever happened here, affected the comics there. As for the number for this Earth, well in Legends, Hawkgirl looks at the newspaper and says "40 years ago". Take the year this boardcasted, minus 40, and you have 1962. So that explains why I called this Earth by that year."

Earth-1992: the BTAS Universe
"In my mind, BTAS Batman and the Batmen from TNBA & JL/JLU are different (I'll get to those two later). So despite what alot of you will say, I consider BTAS to be seperate from the others that followed". The 1992 is the year the series started. On this Earth, the superheroes are not 'super' and are grounded. There are only the total of six costumed heroes of Jonah Hex, Zatara, Batman, Robin, Zatanna, and Batgirl."

Earth-1996: the STAS-TNBA-BB universe
"This Earth is where Superman: Animated, The New Batman Adventures, and Batman Beyond take place (again, I consider BTAS to be seperate). While similar to Earth-1992's, the Batman here is darker and his darkness affects those around him. Sometime between STAS and BB, the Justice League is formed but its unknown who else beyond the superheroes in STAS is in the JL when it forms. Although its known in BB about Wonder Woman, although never seen. In the future, the JL becomes the JLU officially and a Bruce Wayne trains a teenaged Batman."

Earth-1997: STAS "Brave New Metropolis" universe
"This Earth is shown in the "Brave New Metropolis" episode of STAS. After Lois Lane's death, Superman teams with Luthor to run Metropolis that becomes a dicatorship. The appearence of the Earth-1996 Lois Lane changes Superman back to who he was before 1997's Lois' death. Its unknown who other superheroes appeared on this earth, if any."

Earth-2001: the STAS-TNBA-JL/JLU universe
"This Earth is just like Earth-1996, but everything from JL/JLU is here and the entire BB part is removed. Maybe its because of Batman's personality here that made me think that he wasn't the same as TNBA Batman. On this Earth, everything from STAS-TNBA happens and this time we see the Justice League whom include the superheores from STAS except for a different Green Lantern, and this time showing Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Hawkgirl. While BB still happens anyway, its different because of Bruce's time with the League."

Earth-2003: Justice Lords universe
"This is the Earth where JL "A Brave New World" happens. Everything from Earth-2001 up to theImperium invasion happens here, but is different when the name for the team is Justice Lords instead of Justice League. Luthor becomes President early, and Superman killing him makes the team rule Earth with an iron fist. That stays for two years, until the real Justice League with Justice Lord-Batman changes things."

Caswin
05-11-2007, 05:40 PM
Earth-RS2
Ruby-Spears' Superman 1988 (Superman and Wonder Woman)

Earth-RS1
Ruby-Spears Plastic ManAnything in particular keeping these two apart?

Bat-Man
05-11-2007, 06:40 PM
not bad SaBaWoJuLe, I also like Batman TAS, TNBA and Batman Beyond more thant Justice League and JLU
really nice job;)

Leaping Larry Jojo
05-11-2007, 08:36 PM
So is New Frontier really going to be in the same universe as the JL/JLU series? I can't see how that's gonna work without major tinkering of Darwyn Cooke's comic (which I assume what this special is based on)

SaBaWoJuLe
05-11-2007, 09:27 PM
So is New Frontier really going to be in the same universe as the JL/JLU series? I can't see how that's gonna work without major tinkering of Darwyn Cooke's comic (which I assume what this special is based on)

No its not, its seperate as is the other DTVs.


not bad SaBaWoJuLe, I also like Batman TAS, TNBA and Batman Beyond more thant Justice League and JLU
really nice job;)

Gee thanks. I did make more. Here they are:

Earth-1941
"This Earth is where the well known, well famous, Fleischer Superman cartoons are located. Just like the Golden Age Superman of the comics, Superman appeared in 1938 after his alter ego applied for a job at the Daily Planet. In this reality, the island of Manhattan is renamed as Metropolis. This Superman doesn't use his flight power all the time, does not have all of his powers, and in late 1942, Superman fought in World War II. Since the last time we see this world is in mid 1943, its unknown if there are other superheroes or if Superman is the one and only superhero of this planet."

Earth-1966
"The Filmation DC Comics cartoons are located on this Earth. In this universe, Superman, Batman & Robin with Batgirl, the JLA, Teen Titans, Aquaman & Aqualad all exist. Some things to point out are that the Lois & Clark relationship are that of best friends, with Lois seeing Superman is either as a friend or a news story. Robin is not with the Teen Titans, and while a Wonder Girl is in the Teen Titans, Wonder Woman doesn't seem to exist at all. As the JLA is more of a man's superhero team. Plus, as a boy, Clark Kent was known in Smallville as Superboy fighting crime with Krypto the Superdog."

Earth-1973
"This Earth features the Superfriends. While similar to Earth-1966, the team's founding members consisted at first with Superman, Batman & Robin, Aquaman, and this time with Wonder Woman. In this reality, Wonder Woman was the first superhero as she was sent to fight World War II. Then in the early sixities, more superheroes like Superman & Green Lantern appeared. After a while, the JLA was nicknamed "the Superfriends" as a ploy with them being superheroes. But the name stuck and everyone from Earth to space called them by that name. It was only much later that the name was changed to The Super Powers Team. Most of the villians they fought were aliens, monsters, the Legion of Doom, and Darkseid."

Earth-1988
"The events of Ruby Spears Superman cartoon happens on this Earth. What is known here is that this world is the first based on the post-crisis comic book DCU as Clark Kent as a boy never became Superboy, only decided to become Superman when he moved to Metropolis when he was older. And Lex Luthor as an evil billionaire, another first for this world. One other thign to point out is that other than Superman, Wonder Woman exists too. Beyond that, its unknown whom other superheroes happen to exist here."

Earth-2003
POSSIBLE EARTH.
"This Earth is still considered somewhat unknown in infomation, but has been known is that Clark Kent grew up as a teenage "super-boy". But it was his time with the Legion of Superheroes in the far future which made him figure out his future as he went to Metropolis and later became known as Superman. A few years after his appearence in costume, Superman would meet Batman (whom had been around few years prior) through Martian Manhunter as part of the Justice League. One of Batman's sidekicks, Robin, would leave Gotham as ateen and then meet other super-powered teens to form their own Teen Titans team. In the 31st Century, the Legion of Superheroes would be form to tackle their villians."

Anthonynotes
05-12-2007, 07:33 PM
Earth-1973
"This Earth features the Superfriends. While similar to Earth-1966, the team's founding members consisted at first with Superman, Batman & Robin, Aquaman, and this time with Wonder Woman. In this reality, Wonder Woman was the first superhero as she was sent to fight World War II. Then in the early sixities, more superheroes like Superman & Green Lantern appeared. After a while, the JLA was nicknamed "the Superfriends" as a ploy with them being superheroes. But the name stuck and everyone from Earth to space called them by that name. It was only much later that the name was changed to The Super Powers Team. Most of the villians they fought were aliens, monsters, the Legion of Doom, and Darkseid."

I thought it was odd in that Superfriends episode that they put Wonder Woman's origin in WWII (which would make her predate Superboy's debut, unlike comic continuity of the time), like in the original Golden Age comics---though guessing the popularity of the live-action TV show at the time might've had something to do with it...

Speaking of Superboy, he's part of Superfriends continuity too---apparently coming along in the 50's, per one episode.

Antiyonder
05-13-2007, 05:26 AM
Speaking of Superboy, he's part of Superfriends continuity too---apparently coming along in the 50's, per one episode.

Actually, the reason for the particular Superfriends line had to do with the fact that the main five trained to fight crime since childhood. I'm guessing Superfriends Aquaman, had that career as Aquaboy.