Wow, Power Rangers Bruce Timm style?

[NinjaJack]

These are not from the rumored animated sseries(which might be canned) but from excellent fan artist GWRRB

Original Mighty Morphin` Power Rangers (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/GWRRB/DC-PR-final.jpg)

Dragon Shield Jason (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/GWRRB/DC-PR-redshield.jpg)

[BCVM22]

Sure glad that's not real in any form.

That's right. You heard me.

[NinjaJack]

Eh, what would be wrong with a well done Ranger show?

[BCVM22]

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman. They change with the times a little, they may get a little muddled times - Batman breaks his back and hands the mantle to Azrael; Superman gets a new lightning-themed costume and set of powers; Wonder Woman goes blind, loses her royal position, whatever - but they're characters, icons, concepts even, that remain staples of American popular culture and conciousness through and through.

Power Rangers? I still wonder how and why they keep going. I know the annual new sentai shows give them plenty of cheap, pre-made footage to use, but I'm still incredulous that Power Rangers itself keeps getting renewed year after year.

Besides, compare the two. Someone of any age, any time can wear a t-shirt, a belt buckle, a tie, a hat with the "S" shield on it and it's a timeless symbol. I challenge anyone over the age of 10 to do so with anything Power Rangers-related.

In the great, unsifted ether of history, I'm glad that Bruce Timm and others decided to put their creative energies into something like the DCAU rather than Power Rangers.

[Ace]

I wish it was real. I would so watch a Power Ranger cartoon:)
(especially if it looked like that)

ACE

[Alph]

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman. They change with the times a little, they may get a little muddled times - Batman breaks his back and hands the mantle to Azrael; Superman gets a new lightning-themed costume and set of powers; Wonder Woman goes blind, loses her royal position, whatever - but they're characters, icons, concepts even, that remain staples of American popular culture and conciousness through and through.

Power Rangers? I still wonder how and why they keep going. I know the annual new sentai shows give them plenty of cheap, pre-made footage to use, but I'm still incredulous that Power Rangers itself keeps getting renewed year after year.

Besides, compare the two. Someone of any age, any time can wear a t-shirt, a belt buckle, a tie, a hat with the "S" shield on it and it's a timeless symbol. I challenge anyone over the age of 10 to do so with anything Power Rangers-related.

In the great, unsifted ether of history, I'm glad that Bruce Timm and others decided to put their creative energies into something like the DCAU rather than Power Rangers.

You seem to be forgetting that public perception has zero impact on how good a show is. If the DCAU team made a PR show, I'm sure it would rock hard, and that's all that would matter.

[BCVM22]

You seem to be forgetting that public perception has zero impact on how good a show is. If the DCAU team made a PR show, I'm sure it would rock hard, and that's all that would matter.

My point was the difference in the characters and the concepts. The bit about public perception of the characters/concepts in the present day was an afterthought.

[Bat_Girl]

I don't get the appeal of Power Rangers, every season had a new bunch of characters, which got confusing and it was so cheesy. Like live-action anime or something.
Power Rangers suck, I watched it a little when I was younger but to watch it now would be boring and pathetic.

[Robin2099]

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman. They change with the times a little, they may get a little muddled times - Batman breaks his back and hands the mantle to Azrael; Superman gets a new lightning-themed costume and set of powers; Wonder Woman goes blind, loses her royal position, whatever - but they're characters, icons, concepts even, that remain staples of American popular culture and conciousness through and through.

Power Rangers? I still wonder how and why they keep going. I know the annual new sentai shows give them plenty of cheap, pre-made footage to use, but I'm still incredulous that Power Rangers itself keeps getting renewed year after year.

Besides, compare the two. Someone of any age, any time can wear a t-shirt, a belt buckle, a tie, a hat with the "S" shield on it and it's a timeless symbol. I challenge anyone over the age of 10 to do so with anything Power Rangers-related.

In the great, unsifted ether of history, I'm glad that Bruce Timm and others decided to put their creative energies into something like the DCAU rather than Power Rangers.
Maybe I'm misreading your post here, but these were just ideas that someone drew that looked pretty cool. You almost come across as bitter that this might of led to a PR cartoon and that the DCAU would of never existed because of it.

[Alph]

You mean "would have".

[BCVM22]

You almost come across as bitter that this might of led to a PR cartoon and that the DCAU would of never existed because of it.

Of course not. No point wasting brain cells on something that didn't happen. I'm simply not sure that even had Timm and Co. worked on it, a Power Rangers animated series could have been the groundbreaking series B:TAS was.

[Pomegranate]

I don't get the appeal of Power Rangers, every season had a new bunch of characters, which got confusing and it was so cheesy. Like live-action anime or something.
Power Rangers suck, I watched it a little when I was younger but to watch it now would be boring and pathetic.

You got that right, Bat Girl;) ! Now that I think about it, Power Rangers and its ilk are racist, because they always reject the original Japanese actors and settings in favor of non-Asian(usually American) actors and settings.

[BCVM22]

You got that right, Bat Girl;) ! Now that I think about it, Power Rangers and its ilk are racist, because they always reject the original Japanese actors and settings in favor of non-Asian(usually American) actors and settings.

Eureka, you may be on to something! Certainly the fact that putting dubbed dialogue over Japanese live-action would look utterly horrible has nothing to do with it!

I suggest you continue on this line of thought and report your findings back to us.

[Pomegranate]

Eureka, you may be on to something! Certainly the fact that putting dubbed dialogue over Japanese live-action would look utterly horrible has nothing to do with it!

I suggest you continue on this line of thought and report your findings back to us.

You don't really get what I'm trying to say, now do you:shrug: ? I actually prefer a 100% accurate dub of a foreign live-action program over an American adaptation of it, because it retains the integrity of the original source material and it's not as racist as your run-of-the-mill American adaptation of that very same foreign live-action program.

[BCVM22]

You don't really get what I'm trying to say, now do you:shrug: ? I actually prefer a 100% accurate dub of a foreign live-action program over an American adaptation of it, because it retains the integrity of the original source material and it's not as racist as your run-of-the-mill American adaptation of that very same foreign live-action program.

I'm still chuckling at the fact that you call it "racist." There was a Japanese live-action Spider-Man show once; the main character was Japanese. Was that "racist?"

It must be a fun, fun place in that little world of yours.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Well it's a neat concept but and the art looks plenty good but something about it just doesn't work for me. Power Rangers shouldn't look like that in animated form. Maybe something more like The Batman would suit it better. They're too riggid looking without having faces. I'll bet the human designs would be great looking though.

Yeah... Jeff Matsuda should draw Power Rangers animated. That could be very awesome.

[Pomegranate]

I'm still chucking at the fact that you call it "racist." There was a Japanese live-action Spider-Man show once; the main character was Japanese. Was that "racist?"

It must be a fun, fun place in that little world of yours.

You don't think replacing Japanese actors of a toku series with American actors is racist at all:eek: ? If not, then what about the time when 4Kids turned a black person from One Piece into a white person, when they used to hold the license to One Piece, that is? Is that not racist at all:confused: ?

[Megalon]

Chill out BCVM22. No reason to get so high and mighty here. When you get right down to the basics, the concepts for Batman, Superman, or any other comic book hero is no less cheesy than that of the Power Rangers. It's all in the execution, and I see no reason why a Power Rangers show couldn't kick ass with the best of `em.

[BCVM22]

You don't think replacing Japanese actors of a toku series with American actors is racist at all:eek:

Not in the slightest. It's called "localization," i.e. making a product easier to sell in a new market. Not for a second do I think that the producers feel "These Asians are terrible! Time for some *sinister laughter* American actors!"

[Alph]

You don't think replacing Japanese actors of a toku series with American actors is racist at all:eek: ? If not, then what about the time when 4Kids turned a black person from One Piece into a white person, when they used to hold the license to One Piece, that is? Is that not racist at all:confused: ?

First of all, "American" is not a race. It's a national identity consisting of multiple different races, including (you guessed it) Asians. And there are plenty of Asian power rangers. There are also black people, white people, hispanic people, I think at least one middle-eastern dude, and everyone's favorite Native American: Tommy Oliver. Oh yeah, and there's a few aliens as well, including one that looks like a big rubber anthropomorphic dog. So Power Ranger's is about as unracist as the DCAU is.

And you might like dubbed live action, but a greater number of people think it's cheesy (yes, even more cheesy than power rangers already manages to be, believe it or not). So the reasons for swapping footage is purely for cultural and linguistic reasons, which is a perfectly legitimate reason to change something (since it has to do with practicality, and not elitism like racism does).

And for the record, the Japanese versions are actually the more racist versions, if you want to point fingers (which you shouldn't). I'm not dissing the Japanese, but it's pretty obvious that they like their homogeny (exactly how many black or white dudes are in any given Sentai series?).

[FidoMcCokefiend]

Besides, compare the two. Someone of any age, any time can wear a t-shirt, a belt buckle, a tie, a hat with the "S" shield on it and it's a timeless symbol. I challenge anyone over the age of 10 to do so with anything Power Rangers-related.

I wear Power Rangers shirts all the time, and I'm 20.

[Pomegranate]

First of all, "American" is not a race. It's a national identity consisting of multiple different races, including (you guessed it) Asians. And there are plenty of Asian power rangers. There are also black people, white people, hispanic people, I think at least one middle-eastern dude, and everyone's favorite Native American: Tommy Oliver. Oh yeah, and there's a few aliens as well, including one that looks like a big rubber anthropomorphic dog. So Power Ranger's is about as unracist as the DCAU is.

And you might like dubbed live action, but a greater number of people think it's cheesy (yes, even more cheesy than power rangers already manages to be, believe it or not). So the reasons for swapping footage is purely for cultural and linguistic reasons, which is a perfectly legitimate reason to change something (since it has to do with practicality, and not elitism like racism does).

And for the record, the Japanese versions are actually the more racist versions, if you want to point fingers (which you shouldn't). I'm not dissing the Japanese, but it's pretty obvious that they like their homogeny (exactly how many black or white dudes are in any given Sentai series?).

I whole-heartedly agree with you on your last paragraph, I somewhat agree with you on the 1st one and your 2nd one made my eyes bleed so much I almost became blind right after reading the entire thing:sweat: !

[Undrave]

Power Rangers? I still wonder how and why they keep going. I know the annual new sentai shows give them plenty of cheap, pre-made footage to use, but I'm still incredulous that Power Rangers itself keeps getting renewed year after year.

Besides, compare the two. Someone of any age, any time can wear a t-shirt, a belt buckle, a tie, a hat with the "S" shield on it and it's a timeless symbol. I challenge anyone over the age of 10 to do so with anything Power Rangers-related.


They keep going because A) they renew themselves and B) their audiance is renewed. For each kid 'outgrowing' Power Rangers there's a kid discovering a new serie.

And that's a VERY unfair comparaison. Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman and all the other Superhero have almost a hundred years of history and popular culture backing them up! Power Rangers is in it's infacy with only 15 years!!

However in Japan if you got a Kamen Rider or Jetman keychain or something it won't look any weirder than your superman t-shirt.

EDIT: Oh and American suck at dubbing live action.

[Robin2099]

Of course not. No point wasting brain cells on something that didn't happen. I'm simply not sure that even had Timm and Co. worked on it, a Power Rangers animated series could have been the groundbreaking series B:TAS was. Ok gotcha.

[AdamYJ]

Eh, not a fan of the pictures. Bruce Timm's "square jaws and square shoulders" art deco inspired style gets a little tiresome for me at times. I know the shows he did were groundbreaking and pretty much created that "9-14 year old" demographic, but I still get a little bored with that style of his.

Glen Murakami should do a Power Rangers animated series. Considering their Japanese roots, I think something anime-inspired like Teen Titans would work.

Or maybe Jeff Matsuda because he could come up with some crazy monster designs.

[Rolling Cloud]

I don't get the appeal of Power Rangers, every season had a new bunch of characters, which got confusing.

Power rangers wasn't confusing until after: In Space! Then, Continuity went out the window.

[AdamYJ]

Power rangers wasn't confusing until after: In Space! Then, Continuity went out the window.

I don't see how it's confusing. It's only confusing if you don't know that it's a new series every year and expect it to be all the same guys year after year.

Also, I seem to remember that PR tried its darnedest to keep from changing things up too much for a long time even though they were working with footage from the ever-changing, ever-renewing Super Sentai. First they just swapped zords every year, which I thought seemed a little awkward. They would have zords of mythical animals or "ninja" animals and still be wearing their "dino" suits. Then they just started trying to switch both suits and zords. This happened starting with Zeo. Meanwhile, actors would be leaving at odd intervals, having their characters going with them. This would result in having to create and cast new parts. Eventually, it probably just seemed easier to adopt the Japanese method of year-long series rather than trying to jump through hoops to keep some sense of continuity.

Sometimes, I wonder if Saban and company really understood the nature of Super Sentai when they started making the show. For some reason I just imagine someone from Saban Productions on the phone with someone in Japan saying "What do you mean it's not Zyuranger anymore?!" :p

[NinjaJack]

Sometimes, I wonder if Saban and company really understood the nature of Super Sentai when they started making the show. For some reason I just imagine someone from Saban Productions on the phone with someone in Japan saying "What do you mean it's not Zyuranger anymore?!" :p


Greatest Saban Quote Ever!


You see folks Power Rangers do not suck, if they did that wouldn't sell as well and they would not have been bought by Disney for 2 billion dollars.

The show`s appeal lies in three keys

-Robots

-Karate

-Teenagers

These three elements usually come seperately but in PR you get them all at once. Now PR does use a very easy to follow formula, but that recipe has evolved since Jason and crew first leaped on screen.

I mean I can tell you for key episodes that Bruce Timm would have brought the house down with. One ranger's wife being kidnapped in the middle of a war that cost him his whole planet. One day he finds the man who took her away from him and the two fight in a classic fight.

One Ranger is brainwashed into thinking he`s the king of the Machine Empire, a nasty group, and is the only one who can kill a Power Ranger. It takes the love his girlfriend and his friends courage to power down thier powers to break the trance.

One Ranger is haunted by the spectre of his past as a blood thirsty villian who almost brough the Rangers to their knees. Things get worse when the spectre turns out to be real and he must defeat it if her wants his sanity back


A young police woman loses her fiancee and finds the man who almost killed him. Even though her love was taken away by someone else`s hand, she sees killing this guy as a good standin for her rage.


Tommy Oliver is in a coma, and the only way he can break out is to fight his former alter egos one by one. The results are just as heroic as any other hero who fights for his will to survive.

All in all, I can give you litterally hundreds of great PR episodes that were good and a good number that were episode outside of the finales.

[bigddan11]

Power rangers wasn't confusing until after: In Space! Then, Continuity went out the window.
Continuity went out of the window? I don't think so. Each sereis, with the exception of Time Force, takes place only one year after the previous incarnation. They may have had new actors, but they also had new villians each season, and each year they usually brought back at least one old villian that the old rangers could help the new rangers fight. Continuity still exsists, considering this year Operation Overdrive got a scale from Fireheart, and last year Rita was the mystic mother in Mystic Force. Continuity just isn't as cohesive as it once was because of the director change and the new cast each year.


Greatest Saban Quote Ever!


You see folks Power Rangers do not suck, if they did that wouldn't sell as well and they would not have been bought by Disney for 2 billion dollars.

The show`s appeal lies in three keys

-Robots

-Karate

-Teenagers

These three elements usually come seperately but in PR you get them all at once. Now PR does use a very easy to follow formula, but that recipe has evolved since Jason and crew first leaped on screen.

I mean I can tell you for key episodes that Bruce Timm would have brought the house down with. One ranger's wife being kidnapped in the middle of a war that cost him his whole planet. One day he finds the man who took her away from him and the two fight in a classic fight.

One Ranger is brainwashed into thinking he`s the king of the Machine Empire, a nasty group, and is the only one who can kill a Power Ranger. It takes the love his girlfriend and his friends courage to power down thier powers to break the trance.

One Ranger is haunted by the spectre of his past as a blood thirsty villian who almost brough the Rangers to their knees. Things get worse when the spectre turns out to be real and he must defeat it if her wants his sanity back


A young police woman loses her fiancee and finds the man who almost killed him. Even though her love was taken away by someone else`s hand, she sees killing this guy as a good standin for her rage.


Tommy Oliver is in a coma, and the only way he can break out is to fight his former alter egos one by one. The results are just as heroic as any other hero who fights for his will to survive.

The main area Disney fails when it comes to PR is giving it a proper, seasonal type release. I'll admit it appeals to me, and I'm 28, but I know I'd defintley buy the original series through Time Force and maybe past that point if they actually put the full season series on DVD instead of "select episodes."

[AdamYJ]

Greatest Saban Quote Ever!

Thanks. In truth, I know that they were probably somewhat aware of how Sentai worked because I remember reading that Jetman was supposed to be the first Super Sentai series ported over by Saban but they ended up passing on it because it didn't sell that well with the target demographic in Japan.

However, the way they did it was still weird. Maybe it was the unexpected popularity that made them try to keep things as recognizable as possible for as long as possible. Still, they were lucky that some of those things worked out the way they did at the time. I mean, they were lucky that the Lion Ranger's mech looked like it could have been the zord for a Black Ranger considering how the Lion Ranger was colored green. They were also lucky that the "Falcon" could pass as a White Ranger's zord. It got a little messy when the Shogun Zords were introduced, though.

It's good they're doing it the way they are now. To create those adaptations, they probably have to jump through enough hoops without worrying too much about continuity.

[Rolling Cloud]

Continuity went out of the window? I don't think so. Each sereis, with the exception of Time Force, takes place only one year after the previous incarnation. They may have had new actors, but they also had new villians each season, and each year they usually brought back at least one old villian that the old rangers could help the new rangers fight. Continuity still exsists, considering this year Operation Overdrive got a scale from Fireheart, and last year Rita was the mystic mother in Mystic Force. Continuity just isn't as cohesive as it once was because of the director change and the new cast each year.

True, that the cross-overs are there. I just assumed that: "Countdown to Destruction!" was kind of a slate-cleaner so to speak.

I was wrong on that idea! :sweat:

[NinjaJack]

True, that the cross-overs are there. I just assumed that: "Countdown to Destruction!" was kind of a slate-cleaner so to speak.

I was wrong on that idea! :sweat:

About 9 years to the day

[Hanshotfirst113]

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman. They change with the times a little, they may get a little muddled times - Batman breaks his back and hands the mantle to Azrael; Superman gets a new lightning-themed costume and set of powers; Wonder Woman goes blind, loses her royal position, whatever - but they're characters, icons, concepts even, that remain staples of American popular culture and conciousness through and through.

Power Rangers? I still wonder how and why they keep going. I know the annual new sentai shows give them plenty of cheap, pre-made footage to use, but I'm still incredulous that Power Rangers itself keeps getting renewed year after year.

Besides, compare the two. Someone of any age, any time can wear a t-shirt, a belt buckle, a tie, a hat with the "S" shield on it and it's a timeless symbol. I challenge anyone over the age of 10 to do so with anything Power Rangers-related.

In the great, unsifted ether of history, I'm glad that Bruce Timm and others decided to put their creative energies into something like the DCAU rather than Power Rangers.

A little cynical are we?

[Nightwing]

I'm sure, in a very general sense, it can be agreed that those fan pics are really really well done, whether a poster likes the idea that the pics represent or not. It's like that Turkey Hill icre cream I got at the supermarket the other day that blew me away. The mixed vanilla ice cream and lemon ice into ONE container. I liked it because they took two things I like that might go well together and then and then mooshed them together.

With this non-ice cream analogy, I wouldn't go for the idea of a Bruce Timm style Power Rangers, cuz I don't really think it's necessary, but the pics are really cool to look at.

The whole Power Rangers thing for older people is just for nostalgia. And although you shouldn't let nostalgia consume your thoughts and opinions, it's still a significant feeling. And the one thing I love most about the Power Rangers which I believe is the most important aspect of the show is giving that feeling to future generations of kids. 'Course the gold they can rake in by merchandising is a potential factor too....wink wink.


You got that right, Bat Girl;) ! Now that I think about it, Power Rangers and its ilk are racist, because they always reject the original Japanese actors and settings in favor of non-Asian(usually American) actors and settings.

I don't know where this point is going exactly, but it does make me think of something I've wanted to say. A previous post already pointed out that the Japanese versions of things tend to be more racially eyebrow-raising, but what I always thought was beyond stupid was how people looked at the first American Power Rangers and called the casting decision racist.

All the Japanese actors were, of course, Japanese, but when the American one was made the Black Ranger was a black guy, the Yellow Ranger was an Asian girl, and so on in similar fashions. I totally loved this. To me, that's a representation of the bright multi-colored rainbow of everything and everyone you can find in America. We're made up of the best of everything. And a show like this might help to make sure all the different everythings don't grow up just to fight each other over the differences, instead of celebrating and enjoying them.



Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman. They change with the times a little, they may get a little muddled times - Batman breaks his back and hands the mantle to Azrael;

And that was lame.


Superman gets a new lightning-themed costume and set of powers;

And that was lame.

You might say, based on that quote that it's easier to be a Power Ranger, because the show doesn't have any delusions about what it is and where it stands.


Someone of any age, any time can wear a t-shirt, a belt buckle, a tie, a hat with the "S" shield on it and it's a timeless symbol. I challenge anyone over the age of 10 to do so with anything Power Rangers-related.

So only vote for the incumbent heroes. That sounds a little constricting.

Ya know, I used to be the type to reject anything that wasn't Western, but over the years I've learned quite a bit. Now, the anime world has a lot of freaky stuff in it that I can't get into, but there are a number of shows I like. I realize that it's a different culture and mindset of human beings. And since Americans don't realize that over a third of the world hates them, I think understanding this first hand by jumping into another mindset gives nothing but positive results.

[Shredder565]

Power Rangers? I still wonder how and why they keep going. I know the annual new sentai shows give them plenty of cheap, pre-made footage to use, but I'm still incredulous that Power Rangers itself keeps getting renewed year after year.

You know, as much as I agree with the first paragraph (I'm surprised it lasted the first 5 years)...I might give an animated Power Rangers Show a decent shot. Especially done by Bruce Timm.

This type of show is pulled off much better in animation than any kind of live action we have going.

[Hordesman]

All the Japanese actors were, of course, Japanese, but when the American one was made the Black Ranger was a black guy, the Yellow Ranger was an Asian girl, and so on in similar fashions. I totally loved this. To me, that's a representation of the bright multi-colored rainbow of everything and everyone you can find in America. We're made up of the best of everything. And a show like this might help to make sure all the different everythings don't grow up just to fight each other over the differences, instead of celebrating and enjoying them.

From what I understand it wasn't not the diversity, but the color coding going on in season 1. Red for the kid who was part Native American, Black for the African American, Yellow for the Asian American, Blue for the male WASP, pink for the female WASP.

And there's two reasons why Power Rangers is still on.
1. Marquee value.
2. Cheap enough show. I doubt they're paying the going rate for a whole imported sentai show, because the things have been budgeted to make money in Japan (a much smaller market) and they're not looking to use the whole show. Then there's the English footage now shooting in New Zealand. It's a minimum investment all across the board with some hold in pop culture memory.

And we're not even going into the toys.

[MonkeyFunk]

Slightly off-topic but possibly interesting question for the non-USA members here: if you were put in charge of a remake of an American property, do you think you would relocate the setting to your own country?

[Caswin]

Saw a few episodes of the original version not too long ago. As a result, I have a page-long Word document on ways to make the Green Ranger saga alone better. Still, I'm genuinely interested in Power Rangers in Space; that actually looks pretty good...

Nonetheless, the DVD treatment of Power Rangers in general (basically, SPD and Mystic Force) frustrates me. No show - not X-Men: Evolution, not My Little Pony (I just looked at the box! I swear! :ack:), not even Power Rangers - deserves to be released four episodes at a time.

[Nightwing]

From what I understand it wasn't not the diversity, but the color coding going on in season 1. Red for the kid who was part Native American, Black for the African American, Yellow for the Asian American, Blue for the male WASP, pink for the female WASP.


Yeah, I know. And what I was saying was I think they're dumb for getting all riled up about it, if I may say.

[NinjaJack]

You know PR for adults is one part nostalgia and one part love of the show itself. We like this show because they have amazing stunts pulled off with no apologies given. The stories are never say Days Of Future past in scope but the people involved are are always interesting and you want to see where they end up.

Watching SPD is actually a fun action packed future cop series and Power Ranger Time Force was just good TV watching with great epic stories.

But it all boils down to PR being a show with a lot of heart and a timeless spirit that many generation will enjoy for years to come.

[BCVM22]

But it all boils down to PR being a show with a lot of heart and a timeless spirit that many generation will enjoy for years to come.

With a hearty dash of teenage + older fans unable to accept that they're no longer the show's intended demographic.

[Dim Reaper]

With a hearty dash of teenage + older fans unable to accept that they're no longer the show's intended demographic.

FWIW, I don't think I was ever in the Power Rangers demographic - I turned 36 almost two weeks ago - and I watched Power Rangers through whatever the last series was before Time Force, and haven't given PR much thought since except when other people bring it up and checking out a couple of episodes of Dino Thunder when I heard they brought Tommy back.

But I think the quality in Japan is going downhill, because I've seen a smattering of pics from some of the more recent shows, and the costumes and robot designs suck.

(I do keep up on Sentai and Tokatsu shows in Japan, even though I don't watch them - I just don't care about Power Rangers anymore)

[David64]

With a hearty dash of teenage + older fans unable to accept that they're no longer the show's intended demographic.


Is it really that hard for you to believe that older fans are out there? Pokemon, TMNT, He-Man and Transformers, ect.. all have an older fan base and are in the same demographic as PR.

[Caswin]

Is it really that hard for you to believe that older fans are out there? Pokemon, TMNT, He-Man and Transformers, ect.. all have an older fan base and are in the same demographic as PR.In their defense, those shows at least started off a notch above plots consisting almost entirely (if not altogether entirely, which happened more than once) of the monster-of-the-day... although Pokemon seems to be in danger of falling to that stage.

[Dank]

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=14785

I wear Power Rangers shirts all the time, and I'm 20. How did you find a shirt that fit?

Saw a few episodes of the original version not too long ago. As a result, I have a page-long Word document on ways to make the Green Ranger saga alone better. Would love to see it.

[Megalon]

Is it really that hard for you to believe that older fans are out there? Pokemon, TMNT, He-Man and Transformers, ect.. all have an older fan base and are in the same demographic as PR.
Yeah! Get off that high horse already. Sheesh. Everybody just wants to feel like they're better than someone else, even if it's only based on what shows you watched as a kid:sad:

[AdamYJ]

With a hearty dash of teenage + older fans unable to accept that they're no longer the show's intended demographic.

You know, if we cared about target demographics and stuff so much, many of us wouldn't even be here on ToonZone. :p

[Undrave]

You know, if we cared about target demographics and stuff so much, many of us wouldn't even be here on ToonZone. :p

Bingo!

Me neither I was never in PR's target demographic. I started watching the show in 9th grade with Turbo!

I liked the zords XD and just got use to the hokey writing and cheesy stuff... and Turbo had PLENTY of cheese!

TJ: "Did I ever told you guys about the time I got baked into a giant pizza?"

And also since I didn't 'grow up' with it, I don't have that nostalgia factor, at least not to the point where I pretend that MMPR is the greatest thing since sliced cheese. I still like it for what it is.

[Hordesman]

Is it really that hard for you to believe that older fans are out there? Pokemon, TMNT, He-Man and Transformers, ect.. all have an older fan base and are in the same demographic as PR.

And He-Man would make an awesome sentai show. ;)

[Alph]

Just because it feels appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-m0jwdmnxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYMTZ8e8iQQ

[Hurricane V1]

I LOVE Power Rangers. I wouldn't be the martial artist I am today if it wasn't my fanatic devotion to Power Rangers... and Jackie Chan movies. I used to get up extra early every morning before school just to watch MMPR.

Though I'd love to see any new PR project just for the sake of the show taking new directions to reach new audiences, part of me would be disappointed to see it animated. The magic of the show is in it's live action form. I've always said there's too many cartoons for kids and not enough live action adventure series.

It's just one of those shows where you can't get hung up on certain details. Some people like prowrestling, stage magic, breakdancing movies, etc... and others simply don't.

I imagine the rangers would be a hit among stoners if the time and channel were more well known. All those colorful suits, cute female rangers and backflips.

[Caswin]

I imagine the rangers would be a hit among stoners if the time and channel were more well known.Well, that's a great consolation... :shrug:

[NinjaJack]

Hey GWRRB, the guy who made that original picture, drew up something fierce here. Justice League fans, I think you`ll dig this.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/GWRRB/dc-15reds-1.jpg

[BCVM22]

Justice League fans, I think you`ll dig this.

What relevancy does this have to Justice League...?

[NinjaJack]

Well the whole idea of 15 heroes with various superpowers(not to mention Nick's cape) should ibring up some thoughts of JLU. I mean this is practicallly a whole JLU right here.

[asphaltviking64]

Wow that spiderman live action just brought a sense of: spiderman +Japan= cowboy samurais.

[BCVM22]

Well the whole idea of 15 heroes with various superpowers(not to mention Nick's cape) should ibring up some thoughts of JLU. I mean this is practicallly a whole JLU right here.

Hm. No. No, that inspires no such thoughts within me. Must just be you.

[launchpad25]

I don't get the appeal of Power Rangers, every season had a new bunch of characters, which got confusing and it was so cheesy. Like live-action anime or something.
Power Rangers suck, I watched it a little when I was younger but to watch it now would be boring and pathetic.I agree. I could never get into 'Power Rangers'. The way i see it, that franchies set the bar really low for kids shows in terms of production values. I'm also not sure if i would accept a 'Power Rangers cartoon, even if it was helmed by Timm, and crew. You would think that by this point in it's lifespan, the franchies would become a parody of itself. Speaking of which, i've got a really good parodyone right here (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/339918).

[Ykwia]

blah blah Characters... blah blah evil plot... blah blah power rangers... blah blah fight... blah blah giant robot fight... blah blah blah...

[Caswin]

blah blah Characters... blah blah evil plot... blah blah power rangers... blah blah fight... blah blah giant robot fight... blah blah blah...You do realize that - apart from the giant robots - you could replace "Power Rangers" with almost any superhero you can think of, right?

[AdamYJ]

I agree. I could never get into 'Power Rangers'. The way i see it, that franchies set the bar really low for kids shows in terms of production values.

The low production values are part of its charm, going back to it's Japanese Super Sentai roots. Then again, some people just don't like any of that kind of "tokusatsu" for that very reason (like the people who won't watch Godzilla movies because they think they're cheesy).

[Kevin the Geek]

The low production values are part of its charm, going back to it's Japanese Super Sentai roots. Then again, some people just don't like any of that kind of "tokusatsu" for that very reason (like the people who won't watch Godzilla movies because they think they're cheesy).
Even as a fan of Godzilla movies, I still think that Power Rangers is a cheesy show.*

*= No offense to those who like Power Rangers

[launchpad25]

Even as a fan of Godzilla movies, I still think that Power Rangers is a cheesy show.*

*= No offense to those who like Power Rangers
You took the words right out of my mouth.

[Undrave]

Even as a fan of Godzilla movies, I still think that Power Rangers is a cheesy show.*

*= No offense to those who like Power Rangers

None taken...it's part of it's charm.

And really now can you blame them for having a low budget?? I think they do great for what little they got. Not everybody got the budget of Heroes or Smallville... heck even without that budget I PREFER the action in PR than from Smallville (don't watch Heroes much ^^;). At least half the budget isn't wasted on enflated egos.

[Caswin]

Not everybody got the budget of Heroes or Smallville...As I understood it, Heroes actually has a pretty small budget.

At any rate, I don't see anyone blaming Power Rangers for having a small budget. Who said that?

[Hordesman]

As I understood it, Heroes actually has a pretty small budget.

For a US show. Its budget is probably comparable to a higher end production for Japanese tv.

[NinjaJack]

Like Garo or something like that. Kamen Rider actually has a lower budget than Super Sentai

[Sage Shinigami]

Like Garo or something like that. Kamen Rider actually has a lower budget than Super Sentai

And yet it manages an actual plot every season...imagine that. Anyway, this almost got my hopes up. I've been waiting on news of the animated PR for a good while. Whether other fans agree or not, something like that has a lot of potential in both more serious plots/better looking fight scenes (where the lasers hit the Rangers instead of hitting behind them), and bringing back characters we haven't seen in years.

[NinjaJack]

And yet it manages an actual plot every season...imagine that. Anyway, this almost got my hopes up. I've been waiting on news of the animated PR for a good while. Whether other fans agree or not, something like that has a lot of potential in both more serious plots/better looking fight scenes (where the lasers hit the Rangers instead of hitting behind them), and bringing back characters we haven't seen in years.


I`ve seen Rangers get blasted more now than a few years back. Not quite as fun as the Dino Thunder fights but Overdrive gets it done. Watching the big birthday blowout team up?

[NinjaJack]

Hey heres another entry from the same artist in tribute for Once A Ranger

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/GWRRB/DC-OAR.jpg

[NinjaJack]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/GWRRB/dc-red-power-up.jpg
Just thought these were fantastic

[Wanted]

Dude sure knows how to copy and paste.

[Undrave]

That style doesn't fit the girls at ALL. Plus its too stiff in general.

[Hordesman]

You know, I think any animated version of sentai would have to work on the
costumes... if only because they have the freedom to. I mean, isn't part of sentai having masked men really about stunt doubles?

[NinjaJack]

Stunt doubles and a sense of coolness. Think of it this way, what would spider-man be like if everyone knew what he looked like...oh yeah terrible

[Hordesman]

Stunt doubles and a sense of coolness. Think of it this way, what would spider-man be like if everyone knew what he looked like...oh yeah terrible

An animated sentai show has the opportunity to soup up the armor and have the ocassional non-armored fight scene. It'd be a shame not to.

That said, I really think live action He-Man sentai would rock!

[NinjaJack]

An animated sentai show has the opportunity to soup up the armor and have the ocassional non-armored fight scene. It'd be a shame not to.

That said, I really think live action He-Man sentai would rock!

Just finding someone who looks like that in Japan is the killer

[Mackaybear]

Thanks. In truth, I know that they were probably somewhat aware of how Sentai worked because I remember reading that Jetman was supposed to be the first Super Sentai series ported over by Saban but they ended up passing on it because it didn't sell that well with the target demographic in Japan.

However, the way they did it was still weird. Maybe it was the unexpected popularity that made them try to keep things as recognizable as possible for as long as possible. Still, they were lucky that some of those things worked out the way they did at the time. I mean, they were lucky that the Lion Ranger's mech looked like it could have been the zord for a Black Ranger considering how the Lion Ranger was colored green. They were also lucky that the "Falcon" could pass as a White Ranger's zord. It got a little messy when the Shogun Zords were introduced, though.

It's good they're doing it the way they are now. To create those adaptations, they probably have to jump through enough hoops without worrying too much about continuity.

Actually I remember an interview with Haim Saban that said the reason they passed on Jetman was that it was a dark series with a lot of violence and death that wouldn't "pass on American TV without a lot of cuts"...but this was about 1992 or 93.

Jetman was a homage to Gatchaman and the monsters were ordinary objects brought to monstrous life. I think it probably was the episode with the killer teddy bear that put Saban off of Jetman.

Personally, I like the idea of a new series each year. But I also watch Super Sentai as well.

And there are rumors afoot that Disney will convert the PR franchise to animation after Jungle Fury runs it's course...they claim it'd be cheaper to produce.

[DrTooth]

Well, a couple things. I never really liked Power Rangers that much. I mean I watched the first season and enjoyed it on a small level, but I could never get too into it. I also feel it isn't fun enough to be cheesy, and it's not serious enough to be taken seriously. So it's an unhappy medium with me. And lastly, I'm more of an Ultraman guy.

That said, I do not doubt it has a huge fanbase over the age of 10. I mean, you can't punt a football in a web forum without hitting a PR fan of some sort. Even still, an animated version of the show has as much appeal as the animated Fraggle rock. it seems like a good idea, you can get away with a little more in animation than in live action, but other than that... what's the point? other than continuing the franchise, it seems like all the charm of something done in live action is gone. Plus, other little factors in making a cartoon play a role in making it not as memorable as the original.

I mean, I think an animated show would work, but I just don't see it being as successful as the live action series, unless the same people are involved.

[Scythemantis]

You don't think replacing Japanese actors of a toku series with American actors is racist at all:eek: ?

Um....WHAT? No intelligent person SHOULD consider that racist. There's positively no way in which that counts as "racism", period. It isn't an act of hatred or discrimination. It's the harmless practice of localization. Every single country does it, and the actors aren't chosen by race either way. Wasn't one of the first American "power rangers" an Asian anyway? Trini?

[AdamYJ]

Even still, an animated version of the show has as much appeal as the animated Fraggle rock. it seems like a good idea, you can get away with a little more in animation than in live action, but other than that... what's the point?

When I was a kid, the point of the animated Fraggle Rock show was that I didn't have HBO and was just glad to see the Fraggles in any form I could.

:p

Don't know how that would apply to Power Rangers, though.

[Undrave]

Basically Power Rangers would loose all its appeal if it became just another cartoon. The fact that its the only show of its kind on the airwaves is its one of its biggest strength.

[NinjaJack]

Basically Power Rangers would loose all its appeal if it became just another cartoon. The fact that its the only show of its kind on the airwaves is its one of its biggest strength.

Of course by the fall that could change with the proposed two hour toku action block on CTN.

[Undrave]

Of course by the fall that could change with the proposed two hour toku action block on CTN.

TWO Hours?!? Beside Dragon Knight where the FRELL would they find the other hour and a half?? Someone's dubbing Ryukendo? Airing Ultraman Tiga again and some older shows?? I can't see those Ryukendo and Sazer adaptations project be done by fall.

[NinjaJack]

TWO Hours?!? Beside Dragon Knight where the FRELL would they find the other hour and a half?? Someone's dubbing Ryukendo? Airing Ultraman Tiga again and some older shows?? I can't see those Ryukendo and Sazer adaptations project be done by fall.


The purposed rumored lineup is

Big Bad Beetleborgs

Ryukendo

Sazers

Dragon Knight

It gets worse though, we have scripts floating around here and there for shows called Galactic Knights and Zodiac Warriors.
GK COULD be the Korean EreXion series. And an educated guess tells us that Zodiac Warriors is likely Gransazers

[Undrave]

The purposed rumored lineup is

Big Bad Beetleborgs

Ryukendo

Sazers

Dragon Knight

It gets worse though, we have scripts floating around here and there for shows called Galactic Knights and Zodiac Warriors.
GK COULD be the Korean EreXion series. And an educated guess tells us that Zodiac Warriors is likely Gransazers

But Beetleborgs is in the Disney Vault...how could it air on a Time Warner network??

[NinjaJack]

But Beetleborgs is in the Disney Vault...how could it air on a Time Warner network??

Technically whats being shown in the UK doesn't mean it''l have the same network support here.

For example. Sonic X is a JETIX series elsewhere in the world but we know it as a 4Kids series.

Similar to that, Saban's Masked Rider might have appeared on JETIX UK's run of "A Friend In Need" but that episode can't be aired here by Disney as they don't have the rights to Kamen Rider....Andness Entertainment does.

Just look at it like the whole nutty Bat Embargo thing if that helps.

[TKnHappyNess]

Is it me, or do those actually look similar to the designs from Super Legends?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCDSe4R10w If you pause at 2:31, you can compare them.

[NinjaJack]

Is it me, or do those actually look similar to the designs from Super Legends?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCDSe4R10w If you pause at 2:31, you can compare them.

Oh yeah there are some similarities there