Some questions about The Batman [Archive]

Hades

04-16-2007, 01:10 AM

Now that the DCAU is completely done (meaning it is all out on DVD), I have decided to give The Batman a second chance (with a more open mind) and picked up the first season set. One thing I need to mention is that I've noticed that a lot of the character designs look more like their current comic designs. Like for example, Killer Croc. In the comics in the 90s he looked like a human in form, so that is how he was in BTAS. In the current comics, he looks like an alligator, as such, that is how he is in The Batman.

Anyway, I do have some questions:

1. Is it true that Season 4 got a lot darker and more mature, especially with the introduction of Black Mask?

2. Has Ras'al Ghul been introduced into the series yet?

3. Is Joker still the same loser from the first season?

4. Did they ever show what happened to the Kabuki twins from the first episode with Penguin?

Palin Dromos

04-16-2007, 01:45 AM

Some Answers

1. Yes, season 4 got "darker." Not just because of Black Mask. Most of episodes in season 4 are closer in tone to B:TAS; closer but not the same by any means. Some really great eps are "A Matter of Family," "Strange New World," and "Artifacts".

2. No Ra's yet. I believe he and Scarecrow have been under the "Bat Embargo" imposed by the WB film division.

3. Defining Joker as a loser is a subjective analysis, I don't really remember too much about his 1st season appearance other than the 2 part finale, but "The Laughing Bat" from season 2 and "Two of a Kind" from season 4 are pretty good Joker eps.

4. The Kabuki Twins continue to appear frequently with Penguin all the way through season 4 episodes.

I think many on the boards will agree the Season 1 of The Batman, is not representative of future seasons. The creative team really turned out some quality stuff in season 2, and season 4 is filled with gold. Season 3 is a matter of taste, some hate it some love it. I didn't have any major problems with it. But they definetly ramped it up in season 4. Hopefully the quality will stay up there during season 5.

Ciao,

PD

Hades

04-16-2007, 01:52 AM

What about the Nightwing and Superman rumors? Thanks by the way.

Oh yeah, and did Clayface ever meet up with the Clayface that was supposed to be in Season4 (Hagen I believe they said he would be)?

Palin Dromos

04-16-2007, 01:56 AM

Nightwing does show up.
I haven't heard any Superman rumors, but the 2 part finale has yet to air (at least in the US)

There is an excellent season 4 ep called "Clayfaces," plural so I'll let you do the math on that one. Though, again it is different than B:TAS.

Hades

04-16-2007, 02:08 AM

So I was looking over this site someone gave me here on info on the JLU figures, which has episode info for this series, and holy crap, PAUL DINI DID AN EPISODE!!!! :eek:

Oh yeah, it does not look like Two Face has shown up yet, which is very interesting. As for Ras, shouldn't the "Bat Embargo" be done with him since he is not going to be in the next movie? IF anything, Joker and Penguin should be embargoed for they get used way too much.

Palin Dromos

04-16-2007, 02:09 AM

Yep, "Two of a Kind"

Batlaw

04-16-2007, 02:13 AM

I stoped paying any real attention to The Batman by the end of season 2. I only caught a few eps of season 3. Unlike some, I failed to see any changes in the series for better or worse until now (this fourth season). Even now however, I still consider half of what Ive seen to be similarly less than great as with the first 3 seasons. I wouldnt Nec. call this season "darker"... at least not overall. Some inctances certainly are when compared to the 1st season, but mainly its just the writing / story telling as a whole has improved and "matured" (by comparison).

As stated, no Ra's.

I dont personally see anything whatsoever different about the Joker as he appears or is portrayed now Vs. throughout. No origin or further information on his character has been shown either to my knowledge.

I cant say about the Kabuki Twins really, but I have noticed they appear here and there. Like the Joker, no new details or anything regarding them has surfaced to my knowledge.

I am giving this season a chance and I have been quite pleasantly surprised a couple of times now. Still some dud eps and sprinkled with dud moments, but greatly improved by and large and much more watchable and enjoyable IMO.

Palin Dromos

04-16-2007, 02:29 AM

I dont personally see anything whatsoever different about the Joker as he appears or is portrayed now Vs. throughout. No origin or further information on his character has been shown either to my knowledge.

Joker in this series is definetly a different interpretation of the character. I personally don't mind him and really enjoy Richardson's voice work, but that's me. I missed "JTV" so I can't comment on that ep, but the only Joker ep that really bothered me was "Topsy Turvey." While the playcard gag looked kinda freaky, the whole scheme was too silly.

There some pretty decent stuff about the "Batman/Joker realtionship" in the DTV "The Batman vs. Dracula." I'd acutally recommend it as a rental, at least. Sure it's a little more supernatural than most Batman stories, but animation and battles are really great.

Hades

04-16-2007, 10:57 AM

Palin Dromos

04-16-2007, 01:18 PM

A fifth season has been confirmed.

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=14832

Hades

04-16-2007, 04:37 PM

I hate to ask another question, but has the Season 2 DVD been recalled? I went to Best Buy looking for it, they only carry 1 and 3. Same thing at Target, Wal-mart, and Comp USA. Circuit City is the only place left to check, and it pains me to have to hand my money to them.

Palin Dromos

04-16-2007, 04:44 PM

Hades

04-16-2007, 04:53 PM

I haven't heard anything about a recall on season 2.

You could just chalk it up to season 2 being more popular than 1 or 3 and thus sells out faster.

You could also check Barnes & Nobles Bookstores, they do carry DVD's at many locations.

And there's always online retailers.

You could also check blockbuster or Hollywood video, might be able to get a previously viewed copy for cheap.

No, I had an employee at every store check their system, and it did indeed show they were no longer carrying it. The guy at Best Buy showed me the computer, which had DELETED listed on their record, which means they don't carry it anymore. THe guy at Target check their catalog, and the second season is not listed in there anymore, but 1 and 3 are.

I do know there are online retailers, but seeing how it is $13 in stores, I would not be able to get it for that price online when shipping comes into play. And I refuse to ever buy used movies.

Palin Dromos

04-16-2007, 05:01 PM

Huh, weird.

Post this question in the DVD talkback thread, see if anyone there has a thought.

Well now I feel a little bummed that I didn't pick it up when I had the chance.

adoptedBatpuppy

04-16-2007, 07:38 PM

I own The Batman and Teen Titans season 2 DVD.
I don't think there was a recall on the sets, because they work perfectly fine.

AdamYJ

04-16-2007, 09:05 PM

Oh yeah, and did Clayface ever meet up with the Clayface that was supposed to be in Season4 (Hagen I believe they said he would be)?

They never said it was Matt Hagen. People assumed it was Hagen because he was in B:TAS and the producers said there would be a more "traditional" Clayface. The thing is, there have been about four Clayfaces in the comics. It is one of them.

To spoil or not to spoil?

Aw heck, the episode has already aired. It's a version of Basil Karlo, who was the Clayface from the '30s and '40s. Though, he has the more familiar Clayface powers rather than just being a master of disguise.

Bird Boy

04-16-2007, 09:16 PM

No, I had an employee at every store check their system, and it did indeed show they were no longer carrying it. The guy at Best Buy showed me the computer, which had DELETED listed on their record, which means they don't carry it anymore. THe guy at Target check their catalog, and the second season is not listed in there anymore, but 1 and 3 are.

I do know there are online retailers, but seeing how it is $13 in stores, I would not be able to get it for that price online when shipping comes into play. And I refuse to ever buy used movies.

DeepDiscount.com has it shipped for $13.24.

It hasn't been recalled. The stores likely just stopped carrying it in favor of season three.

-BB

CyberCubed

04-17-2007, 10:30 AM

Here's some advice, don't let Season 1 turn you off from the show.

The first season was mostly bad aside from the Clayface episodes, but the following seasons are all much better. Season 2 was kind of hit or miss, but it did have some really good episodes. From what I've seen of Season 3, its pretty much the same as Season 2, some eps are bad but others are quite good.

Season 4, however, is amazing and almost all the episodes range from above average to very good.

creativerealms

04-17-2007, 10:51 AM

Season four has an episode where everyone in Gotham dies, ok at least most of them. Anyway yeah it does get dark. They also put more focus on character origins, "Ridder's Revenge was a great origin episode" Joker and Pengy are less over used. Their appearances make sense (A clayface episode, Two of a Kind and rumors for Joker) Team Penguin and Rumors for Penguin.

Yeah the show has gotten darker, and the writing much better. Strange Minds for instance is brilliantly written. Everything is covered in the episode at the end dipite seeming odd though batman's eyes.

Rolling Cloud

04-17-2007, 04:01 PM

Season four has an episode where everyone in Gotham dies, ok at least most of them.

Episode name please! :anime:

Stu

04-17-2007, 05:14 PM

Episode name please! :anime:

The episode is called Strange New World (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/thebatman/?x=episodes/44strangenewworld/index). If you want the full spoilers, click on the link. If you don't, just know that the episode in question is absoloutly awesome. :)

R-Taco

04-17-2007, 06:53 PM

Thanks a ton! :)

The one where everyone dies is actually "Seconds".

Rolling Cloud

04-17-2007, 10:12 PM

The episode is called Strange New World (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/thebatman/?x=episodes/44strangenewworld/index). If you want the full spoilers, click on the link. If you don't, just know that the episode in question is absoloutly awesome. :)

Thanks a ton! :)

The one where everyone dies is actually "Seconds".

Eh, I'll watch both of them!

Stu

04-19-2007, 06:19 PM

The one where everyone dies is actually "Seconds".

Christ, it is isn't it? Sorry about that. :ack:

Hades

04-20-2007, 01:52 AM

Well, I found Season 2 at a Best Buy about an hour away. I happened to be in the area, and it was their last copy.

Palin Dromos

04-20-2007, 04:53 PM

Well, I found Season 2 at a Best Buy about an hour away. I happened to be in the area, and it was their last copy.

Kudos!

Hope you find it to be worth the effort. :)

Hades

04-20-2007, 05:48 PM

Kudos!

Hope you find it to be worth the effort. :)

Well watching Season 1 in a 3 day period made it quite enjoyable. I still hate The Batman's versions of Penguin and Joker, but I love their incarnations to Catwoman, Clayface, and Firefly. Oh, and I watched the first 2 episodes to Season 2 already, and the Riddler is awesome.

Palin Dromos

04-20-2007, 06:02 PM

Well watching Season 1 in a 3 day period made it quite enjoyable. I still hate The Batman's versions of Penguin and Joker, but I love their incarnations to Catwoman, Clayface, and Firefly. Oh, and I watched the first 2 episodes to Season 2 already, and the Riddler is awesome.

Glad you're finding it worthwhile. Yeah their version of the Riddler is great. I really enjoyed Englud's performance in Riddled. I always been a Riddler fan in all incarnations, from Gorshin, to Jim Carrey, and John Glover; Englud's Riddler is just so unique.

Looking over the episode list of Season 2, I'm really tempted to finally go out and buy it.

Ciao,
PD

Hades

04-21-2007, 01:14 AM

Palin Dromos

04-21-2007, 02:58 AM

Thta was Robert Englund? THE Robert Englund?! :eek:

BTW, who does the voice of Black Mask?

Any word on when Season 4 comes out? Also, is the movie with Dracula worth buying (I think someone mentioned it on the last page) if I can find it?

Yup, Freddy himself (or Felix, for those in the know).

BM is voiced by James Remar.

No word yet on Season 4, the last two eps have yet to air in the US, so it won't be for a few months yet, at the earliest.

I mentioned the "Batman Vs. Dracula" DTV. And would definetly recommend buying it. It really is one of the best pieces in this continuity.

Incidently I just picked up season 2 after reading that you were digging it. Gotta say the second disk has some really great eps on it.

Ciao,

PD

creativerealms

04-21-2007, 08:05 AM

This Riddler has a great episode in season four, an origin episode that really does not contradict what happens in his first few appearances. In fact season four is filled with origins for the new villains for the most part (With the exception of Black Mask) which was something they tried to stay away from durring the earlier seasons.

Robin is perfect. For as annoying as Batgirl was in season three robin and his VA have nailed a great preformance nearly every time he appear. He allows Batman to be more serious while he is a kid who can still be a kid pispite being in a situation like Bruce's. Batgirl still has some painful moments though.

Season four easily tops season two in my opinion with Strange New World as probably the best episode in the Series and Two of a kind is IMO the funest episode in the show. Dini created a great new incarnation of his Harley Quinn character.

90'sCartoonMan

04-21-2007, 10:47 AM

I wouldn't mind supernatural if it didn't deal with Dracula. Or if it was an experiment gone wrong that created Dracula, but if it is really straight out Dracula, I can't watch it. This is Batman, no Blade. Heck, if the movie at least had Dr Fate or Etrigan in it, I'd have no problem with it.

Demons created by Merlin are okay but Dracula isn't? Aren't you kind of splitting hairs, here? The Batman's going to fight aliens soon, that's about as weird as vampires. Or is it the fact that it's the actually legendary Dracula that bugs you?

Robin is perfect. For as annoying as Batgirl was in season three robin and his VA have nailed a great preformance nearly every time he appear. He allows Batman to be more serious while he is a kid who can still be a kid pispite being in a situation like Bruce's. Batgirl still has some painful moments though.

I can't express enough how much I love Robin on this show. He's got a great VA, a fun attitude, and he even shows doubt and fear in a few episodes, which makes perfect sense for a crime fighter his age.

Hades

04-21-2007, 11:22 AM

Demons created by Merlin are okay but Dracula isn't? Aren't you kind of splitting hairs, here? The Batman's going to fight aliens soon, that's about as weird as vampires. Or is it the fact that it's the actually legendary Dracula that bugs you?

Yeah, it is just that it is Dracula himself that bugs me. I don't care about supernatural, I wouldn't care if it was Langstrom with a new Man-Bat serum, but for it to actually be Dracula, that is just wrong. Nevertheless, I'll pick it up if I can find it in a store.

Ruseri

04-21-2007, 01:21 PM

creativerealms

04-21-2007, 03:53 PM

Yeah the idea of Batman vs Dracula is bad but the way it was handled was great. It seems there were so many ways they could have messed that movie up but they really did a good job.

Tash

04-21-2007, 09:42 PM

You keep asking about Black Mask, but you're going to be really disappointed. He doesn't really DO much in his episode.

Robin2099

04-22-2007, 12:24 AM

Yeah the idea of Batman vs Dracula is bad but the way it was handled was great. It seems there were so many ways they could have messed that movie up but they really did a good job.
There have been tons of Batman vampire stories in the comics and they alwats turned out decent. Batman as a character lends himself better to the supernatural then someone like say Superman.

Hades

04-22-2007, 01:18 AM

Bones Justice

04-22-2007, 08:16 AM

Yeah, it is just that it is Dracula himself that bugs me. I don't care about supernatural, I wouldn't care if it was Langstrom with a new Man-Bat serum, but for it to actually be Dracula, that is just wrong. Nevertheless, I'll pick it up if I can find it in a store.

I know what you're saying because I'm the same way. I normally hate most supernatural/magical creatures in comics. I normally hate when an infamous monster crosses over with a comic book superhero. I have been a fan of the show since the beginning (yes, even season one) but I was expecting the worst when they announced the title of this movie.

That said, I think The Batman vs. Dracula is the best Batman movie ever made. I was totally surprised! It kicks *** in so many ways that I can't recommend it enough! I was really skeptical going in but they really wrote a tight, clever story. Though I like the television show, the movie is even better. I don't want to give anything away, though. I will say that if you thought the television show was well animated, you ain't seen nothin' yet!

M.O.D.O.K.

04-22-2007, 07:04 PM

So I got more episodes to Season 2 done, and the episode with Clayface was awesome. I loved when Joker dropped Ethan, waiting for him to splat, and hsi reaction to when he sees it happen. Also, the Killer Croc episode was great, and I love their version of it, especially since it resembles Croc's look in the current comics.

I was at KB toys today, and they had a Bane/Batman two pack for $7.99. There was no way I could turn down that price.

Tash, it isn't the fact that Black Mask might or might not do something, it is just that he is in the show to begin with. I thought he was a great villian in the comics and am sad to see him be killed off (for now, at least), so having him in The Batman is great.

Black Mask is somewhat toned down for standards, so don't expect him to be violent and aggressive. However, I really dig his design. I wasn't a big fan of skull-faced BM, but the mask he wears in the show is a combination of the skull and original masks.

And you are in luck. The Black Mask episode will be aired sometime in May.

Hades

04-23-2007, 12:52 AM

Man, Ragdoll was freaking awesome!!! Is he a made up villian?

creativerealms

04-23-2007, 08:38 AM

No he's a gold and silver age Flah villain.

CyberCubed

04-23-2007, 02:52 PM

Ragdoll was never in B:TAS, right? Any reason they didn't use him?

creativerealms

04-23-2007, 04:52 PM

Batman TAS stick mainly with Batman villains thats why. Of course Clock king who was a Green Arrow villain was an exception.

Hades

04-23-2007, 05:03 PM

Batman TAS stick mainly with Batman villains thats why. Of course Clock king who was a Green Arrow villain was an exception.

Clock King is a Green Arrow villian? Never knew that.

BTW, who is Copperhead a villian to?

Also, I finished Season 2. The finale episode was just down right awesome, but it felt weird watching it right after The Laughing Bat. You would have thought that Batman would have made sure Joker and Penguin made it out of prison, not be back a night later!! Regardless, I definitely look forward to season 3 and hope we get some more great villians, and that the Riddler comes back. So far, I'd say my top three favorites are Riddler, Ragdoll, and Clayface.

R-Taco

04-23-2007, 06:24 PM

Clock King is a Green Arrow villian? Never knew that. \

Speaking of the Clock King, TB's version of the character is (in my opinion) the best villain on the show.

Palin Dromos

04-23-2007, 08:54 PM

BTW, who is Copperhead a villian to?

Copperhead is one of Batman's lesser known rogues, according to Wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperhead_%28DC_Comics%29

Toddman

04-24-2007, 02:57 PM

Copperhead is one of Batman's lesser known rogues, according to Wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperhead_%28DC_Comics%29

Copperhead is no more a Batman villain than he is a Wonder Woman or Batgirl villain. He went up against all three of them in his first appearance. After that, he was a rgular member in the Secret Society of Super-Villains comic.

In recent years (before he was killed off) he became more of a frequent foe to Hawkman and Hawkgirl.

Toddman

Palin Dromos

04-24-2007, 03:37 PM

Copperhead is no more a Batman villain than he is a Wonder Woman or Batgirl villain. He went up against all three of them in his first appearance. After that, he was a rgular member in the Secret Society of Super-Villains comic.

In recent years (before he was killed off) he became more of a frequent foe to Hawkman and Hawkgirl.

Toddman

OK.
Learned something new.:)

AdamYJ

04-24-2007, 08:34 PM

No he's a gold and silver age Flah villain.

I thought he was a Starman villian.

Truth be told, a lot of the major superhero cartoons actually have at least one "borrowed" villian.

The Batman used Ragdoll and Solomon Grundy (sort of)

Batman: The Animated Series borrowed Clock King and Count Vertigo from Green Arrow (though, Count Vertigo was just called "Vertigo" and worked for Ra's Al Ghul).

Superman borrowed Darkseid from a whole planet of god-like superheroes.

Teen Titans used Killer Moth, an old Batman villian. They also used the Brotherhood of Evil who were more or less borrowed from the Doom Patrol (then again, I guess you could say that they shared).

Even the Marvel cartoons do it.

Spider-Man used Baron Mordo and Dormammu more than was expected of them (let's face it, when Dr. Strange isn't around, it's weird to see Mordo there). He also borrowed Kingpin back from Daredevil after lending him to him years ago.

X-Men even had one episode that used the Purple Man, an old Daredevil villian.

Hades

04-25-2007, 08:24 AM

Solomon Grundy has always been a Batman villian right? Or at least that is how The Long Halloween made it seem.

creativerealms

04-25-2007, 08:44 AM

I thought he was a Starman villian.

Truth be told, a lot of the major superhero cartoons actually have at least one "borrowed" villian.

The Batman used Ragdoll and Solomon Grundy (sort of)

Batman: The Animated Series borrowed Clock King and Count Vertigo from Green Arrow (though, Count Vertigo was just called "Vertigo" and worked for Ra's Al Ghul).

Superman borrowed Darkseid from a whole planet of god-like superheroes.

Teen Titans used Killer Moth, an old Batman villian. They also used the Brotherhood of Evil who were more or less borrowed from the Doom Patrol (then again, I guess you could say that they shared).

Even the Marvel cartoons do it.

Spider-Man used Baron Mordo and Dormammu more than was expected of them (let's face it, when Dr. Strange isn't around, it's weird to see Mordo there). He also borrowed Kingpin back from Daredevil after lending him to him years ago.

X-Men even had one episode that used the Purple Man, an old Daredevil villian.

Ragdoll became a Starman villain in the modern age.

Palin Dromos

04-25-2007, 12:48 PM

Solomon Grundy has always been a Batman villian right? Or at least that is how The Long Halloween made it seem.

Grundy was originally a Green Lantern villian, the Alan Scott version. His regenerated corpse incorperated twigs and sticks from the swamp and this caused problems for the original GL, as his ring had no effect on wood.

Grundy went on to plague many heroes, including Batman, Superman, Fate, Superman, Starman, and was recently used in "Justice League of America."

Since the swamp which originally bore him was just outside Gotham, his appearance in Batman stories seems quite natural. His involvment in The Long Halloween and Dark Victory are quiet enjoyable. And his use in "Grundy's Night" was really cool.

Hades

04-27-2007, 12:30 AM

So who do Temblor and Metalhead belong to?

Anyway, I've gotten through the first 7 episodes to Season 3, and my god, Brawn is probably the worst episode I have ever seen. There was not even a freaking plot to it. It felt like the writers couldn't think of anything better, and as such, just made Bane into Joker for no reason. Terrible and I hope to never watch that episode again. It already peeves me that they had TWO Joker episodes in a row. The Laughing Cats might have been a great episode, but being right after Brawn was annoying. What, did Batman just decide to leave Joker lying on the ground unconcious rather than take him back to Arkham????? Not sure why, but every other episode with Joker seems to be fantastic. However, I'm mad that Riddler has yet to appear, and where the heck is Yin???

Ruseri

04-27-2007, 03:45 AM

So who do Temblor and Metalhead belong to?
Temblor is an original villain to this show, and Gearhead is another villain revived from the early days of Batman comics (like, back in the 40s)

Anyway, I've gotten through the first 7 episodes to Season 3, and my god, Brawn is probably the worst episode I have ever seen.

I agree.. it is easily my least favorite episode of the show. in fact, while i really enjoy Season three overall, it coincidentally happens to also contain my three least favorite episodes (Brawn, Cash for Toys and The Icy Depths)

The Laughing Cats might have been a great episode, but being right after Brawn was annoying.
Lol, i try to look at it more as an apology... it's like they knew Brawn was laughably bad, so they made up for it with a solid Joker ep.

However, I'm mad that Riddler has yet to appear, and where the heck is Yin???
Neither Riddler nor Yin actually show up at all during this season, and Yin's only presence in the fourth season is by mention. not an actual appearance, which is very dissapointing IMO.

M.O.D.O.K.

04-27-2007, 05:29 PM

Temblor is an original villain to this show, and Gearhead is another villain revived from the early days of Batman comics (like, back in the 40s)

I agree.. it is easily my least favorite episode of the show. in fact, while i really enjoy Season three overall, it coincidentally happens to also contain my three least favorite episodes (Brawn, Cash for Toys and The Icy Depths)

Lol, i try to look at it more as an apology... it's like they knew Brawn was laughably bad, so they made up for it with a solid Joker ep.

Neither Riddler nor Yin actually show up at all during this season, and Yin's only presence in the fourth season is by mention. not an actual appearance, which is very dissapointing IMO.

Actually, a not-so-happy Riddler briefly appears in a cameo in a mugshot in the season finale, but that's about it.

BTW, does anyone know why is Yin gone anyway?

Palin Dromos

04-27-2007, 07:44 PM

BTW, does anyone know why is Yin gone anyway?

I don't know of an "in story" reason as to why she's not there, but from a production and storytelling standpoint her 2 primary reasons for existing have been taken up by other characters in season 3 and beyond.

(1) She was Batman's contact in the GCPD, now Comm. Gordon fills that role.
(2) Her role as the token female character/partner is filled by Batgirl.

By the time season 4 rolls around and they add Robin, Batman's supporting cast is pretty large and there are only so many ways to balance all those heroes. Add to that all the rumored team-ups coming in Season 5. As a non-comics character Yin's chances of showing up again are pretty slim. The nod tossed into "Artifacts" by Greg Weisman is probably the most we'll get. (Though for all I know she'll show up in the Season 4 finale and I'll be eating my words.)

Ciao,
PD

Ruseri

04-28-2007, 02:43 AM

I don't know of an "in story" reason as to why she's not there, but from a production and storytelling standpoint her 2 primary reasons for existing have been taken up by other characters in season 3 and beyond.

(1) She was Batman's contact in the GCPD, now Comm. Gordon fills that role.
(2) Her role as the token female character/partner is filled by Batgirl.

By the time season 4 rolls around and they add Robin, Batman's supporting cast is pretty large and there are only so many ways to balance all those heroes. Add to that all the rumored team-ups coming in Season 5. As a non-comics character Yin's chances of showing up again are pretty slim. The nod tossed into "Artifacts" by Greg Weisman is probably the most we'll get. (Though for all I know she'll show up in the Season 4 finale and I'll be eating my words.)

Ciao,
PD

Yeah, i'm dissapointed that they just dropped her from the show with no real explanation, but the fact that she still (relatively routinely) shows up in the comic kind of makes up for that.

As far as the reasoning behind her not showing up since season two goes, i think part of it--initially, at least--was the fact that the woman who provided her voice became unavailable (due to pregnancy, if memory serves) and they, for whatever reason, chose not to replace her.

creativerealms

04-28-2007, 08:40 AM

Riddler does not have a season three episode sadly. Nether does clayface. However they make up for it in season four. Oh yes you get a great Clayface and a Great Riddler episode.

Season three is pretty weak, while I hated "a dark Kight to remember" more then Brawn, that too was a bad episode. At least there was "Fistful of Felt" between those episodes. I love that episode.

Link

04-28-2007, 10:32 PM

I didn't think season three was all that bad. I'll admit "Brawn," "The Icy Depths," "Cash for Toys," and maybe "RPM" were a little lacking, but overall I didn't have a problem with it. The first time I saw most of the episodes from season three I admit they were pretty bad, but rewatching them on the DVD set made me change my mind. The last episode of the season was great to say the least.

Hades

04-29-2007, 11:07 AM

Well, I accidently found the Dracula movie. I was in the mall and went into some small movie shop called Saturday Mantinee, and they had both the LE with the figures and the regular edition. Sadly, I passed on the LE version for they wanted $32.99 for it, whereas the regular DVD was $7.99. I tried to get the guy to lower the price of the LE for me, but he said he would not do so.

Ruseri

04-29-2007, 04:36 PM

Make sure to update us on what you think of it. and try not to let the high praise overhype it for you... go into it with those "wtf!?" thoughts and you should be pleasantly surprised ;)

HauntedLover

04-29-2007, 08:45 PM

1. I say half-half. The Breakout was dark with Black Mask, but he's played an important role only in that episode. Plus, with Robin and Batgirl in there, there's no way it can be too dark.

2. No, not yet. Keep your fingers crossed, though!

3. Harley Quinn's in it now, so Joker isn't as much of a loser as he was in the other seasons; other than that, you betcha!

4. Nope. They were probably found and arrested, but they're just henchwomen. They can't do as much harm. The same goes with Punch and Judy.

BCVM22

04-29-2007, 09:29 PM

Hades

04-30-2007, 01:33 AM

You tried to haggle the price of a movie from a national store chain?

I never heard of them before. Besides, I figured that since the regular edition was on clearance, they would have had the LE too. Oh well, their loss.

Hades

05-02-2007, 01:48 AM

I just finished Season 3, and the last three episodes were quite enjoyable. While I think their incarnation of Zeus was awesome, I do not agree with GL being the voice of Zeus. I just can't picture his voice being any different than the guy who did his voice in BTAS no matter how much I try. Still, a really great episode, and I thought it was a great send off for Batgirl for the season (even though it makes no sense having him finally accept her, just for her not to be in teh final 2 episodes).

Icy Depths was pretty enjoyable as well, not like I heard. It was no where near the greatest episode ever, but I liked the treasure hunt plot to it, and watching Freeze whoop on Penguin was very cool (pun not intended).

Lastly, what a finale. That last episode was great, and made me think of Hardak from BTAS. His voice sounds very familiar though. Anyway, I wish we had seen a little bit more of Hugo Strange in the episode, but either way, it was a great finale.

As for the DVD, I almost turned off the extra feature because I thought it was just going to be clips like the lame Season 2 was. It would have been nice to have heard their comments on Season 2, or they could have at least talked about their S2 villians in this set. The trailers really really suck though. WTF are trailers from last year on here?

Anyway, I hope to watch the Dracula movie this weekend, if not sooner.

Hades

05-06-2007, 12:18 PM

I watched the Dracula movie, and you guys were right, it was very well done. The interaction between Joker and Penguin was great, as my favorite line in the movie is when Joker tells Penguin he came back from the grave, and Penguin says, "There seems to be a lot of that going on around here." Vicki Vale was pretty cool too, and I wish they would bring her into the series, as I like this incarnation of her. Overall, the movie was very solid, had great action scenes, and vampire Joker was awesome. I give it a 4/5 stars, and would love to see more The Batman DTVs released.

Now I wonder how these are the guys that came up with Brainiac Attacks...