The Javelin-7 could FLY to Themiscera???

[Squall]

I'm still really confused about Themiscera, Wonder Woman's home. Can anyone answer these questions for me?

1. Wonder Woman could FLY the Javelin-7 to Themiscera? I thought it was a mythical place that wouldn't show up on a map of Earth. If it's that accessible, what keeps all of the "real" world's countries from flying over, swimming under, or just plain landing on it to explore, make diplomatic contact, etc.?

2. Where is Themiscera? I would assume in the Mediterranean somewhere. Is it set up so that, to the "normal" world it doesn't exist, but if someone from Themiscera takes you there, that's the only way you can get in (or out?) If Wonder Woman wasn't in the Javelin-7 when the JL left at the end of "Paradise Lost", Part II, would they have never been able to get off the "island"?

3. Are Wonder Woman and all the Themiscerians immortal? Or, at the very least, can they be killed, but if they don't actually die, they never will, or even age? Hippolota doesn't look a day over 25, and she's 3000+ years old.

4. Zeus, Hades, etc., and all the other Greek gods. In the DC Universe, are they gods, but not THE God? In other words, could you consider Zeus, Hades, etc. VERY powerful aliens who originated on Earth somehow? (And how?)

5. What would happen if Darkseid or Ra's Al Guhl or Brainiac, etc. caught on to this? You KNOW they'd want to tap into that kind of power...

Despite my confusion on the subject, I still thought "Paradise Lost" was awesome, and watching Superman and Batman getting their butts handed to them by Hades was cool too. (I LOVED it when Batman (off-screen) thows an exploding Batarang at Hades. Hades catches it, just looks at it in his hand, and it blows up in his face without even scratching him! And, for some reason, the fact the Batarang showed up from off-camera is part of what made that little scene SOOO cool.)

Please help me so I can finally understand all this! For reference, I don't read the comic books at all. My entire DC Universe is Batman: TAS, Batman/Superman, Justice League, and Batman Beyond. Thanks!

[Squall]

Oh, and even though Themiscera is a special place, why wouldn't Wonder Woman say Earth is her home? Her fellow Amazons and her appear to be very Earth-bound. (It's not like they're talking about Zeus and Hades on the other side of the Galaxy or anything.)

AND... if Themiscera can exist as a "special" place, why wouldn't there be special, magical places like this all over the Earth, or the Galaxy for that matter?!?

My confusion is profound when it comes to Wonder Woman's origins... :confused:

[Heehaw]

1. Wonder Woman could FLY the Javelin-7 to Themiscera

Because Jav-7 is a magical carriage that can travel land, sea, air, space and jello. It's straight out of the 80s which is fitting, I think. You gotta love those spaceships.

[SimonMoon5]

1. Flying to Themyscira. Sure, why not? Nobody else has ever gone there for the same reason that nobody ever stumbles across Gilligan's Island (well, uh, okay, that's not the best example since tons of people show up on Gilligan's Island, but you know what I mean, right?). It's a well hidden island that just happens to be in a spot where nobody happens to find it.

2. In the TV continuity (iirc), "Paradise Island" was in the Bermuda Triangle, which explains why nobody ever found it; that might be true in the cartoon continuity.

3. In the comics continuity, the Amazons are ageless. They can die, but not from old age.

4. In the comics continuity, the Greek gods are gods, equal to the gods of every other mythos, including the Hindu pantheon, the Egyptian pantheon, the Judeo-Christian pantheon, the Roman pantheon, etc.

5. Darkseid did launch a war or two against the Greek gods. The result was basically a stalemate, but thanks to Wonder Woman, the Greek gods came out ahead. Ra's and Brainiac aren't in the same league as the gods; there's no way they could tap into that power. Brainiac probably doesn't even believe in such supernatural nonsense.

6. In comics there usually *are* special places all over the Earth, especially in the Arctic, Antarctic, and Himalayas.

There's no magic in the rest of the galaxy because the Guardians of the Universe (who didn't want to have to deal with magic) took all the magic of the universe and put it into something called the Starheart; the Starheart ended up on Earth, which explains why Earthlings have magic and nobody else in the galaxy does. This is the Silver Age explanation anyway, which has been contradicted a couple of times since.

[Squall]

Yeah, but that still doesn't explain Batman's advanced knowledge of Themiscera and the Greek gods in "Paradise Lost", or the fact that all the events in "Paradise Lost" wouldn't have confused or at least frustrated Batman, since this was very much on Earth but out of his "league".

I figured Batman would have a "What the... ? This can't be real!" reaction to the whole thing, since it's magic, and not science. (Is magic a kind of "science" of its own here?)

It was still cool to watch him throw those exploding Batagrangs at Hades from off-camera though... :D

[Heehaw]

I figured Batman would have a "What the... ? This can't be real!" reaction to the whole thing, since it's magic, and not science. (Is magic a kind of "science" of its own here?)

The writers have already tackled magic with Batman in "The Demon Within" and of course let's not forget the alien factor from Secret Origins and his own teammate Martian Manhunter.

Back to the topic, why does Wonder Woman even fly Jav-7 to her home? Since she can fly, why not just do that? Because Hasbro wants lots of Jav-7 exposure that why!!!!!

[Squall]

Hey, that's an excellent point! That thought had never occured to me. Wonder Woman didn't have to fly the Javelin-7 to Themiscera at all!

Wait, I know why she did it... so that Batman, from the Batcave, could track where Wonder Woman was going! That's the only way the writers figured they could successfully get Batman to do that.

[Toddman]

Originally posted by squall
Yeah, but that still doesn't explain Batman's advanced knowledge of Themiscera and the Greek gods in "Paradise Lost", or the fact that all the events in "Paradise Lost" wouldn't have confused or at least frustrated Batman, since this was very much on Earth but out of his "league".

I figured Batman would have a "What the... ? This can't be real!" reaction to the whole thing, since it's magic, and not science. (Is magic a kind of "science" of its own here?)

It was still cool to watch him throw those exploding Batagrangs at Hades from off-camera though... :D

Batman's knowledge of Themyscira and Greek Mythology could be obtained at any public library. Even Superman knew about Tartarus. And Heehaw is right, Batman has already faced magic-based foes in the episode "Demon Within" as well as "Avatar." And he's certainly no stranger to immortality (Batman not Heehaw).

Toddman