C&C - Eureka Seven - "Star Dancer" [2/23]

[Zach Logan]

Eureka Seven, here is is.

FIX it Friday
WATCH it Saturday, before it moves to 1AM.

[ClockStomper]

It's planet Earth! Stupid theme song gave it away.

We're overdue for Anemone's backstory but it looks like we may get it soon. Since she's never mentioned by Sakuya as a Coralian, her "medication" could be genetic treatments of some sort to make her function like a Coralian.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I'm going to post now because i don't think i can make it up that late tomorrow:sweat:


Wow, this episode was amazing. I got kind of confused half way through, but Norb just makes me get all teary-eyed. He's got to be one of my favorite characters in the show.

Dewy needs to stop hanging out with little children. It's so...ah!

[Katsumara]

Yes, I indeed loved this episode as well. Dewey is a pedo though, we all know that.

[Rolling Cloud]

I'm glad that Holland's alive, becuase I was so scared when I read on the description that he would fight Anemone! :ack:

[Lutochris]

So the Great Wall is a portal back to Earth? Awesome.

[peacebyanymeans]

I like this show... but this was the same twist as in FMA...

[Cryptic]

only a couple eps more to see what happens to Domnick kissing someone :eek: :sad:

[Captain Highwind]

Go Beyond the Zone!™

[Katsumara]

God I love how dramatic this episode is. From the fight earlier with Mathieu/Hilda/Holland to protect where Eureka/Renton were up to their fight to get into the zone and Holland getting in Anemone's way. The scenes that flashes before Rentons eyes as they fly away from their friends, always kinda brings a tear to my eye. The music during all those scenes was done so so very well.

[livingfruitvirus]

It turns out it's man.

[Hyper Shadow X]

This one was great.

[Soul]

Geez.
If the ending to episode wasn't Fullmetal Deja' Vu

[Vyse]

I have a sudden urge to emit a Planet of the Apes reference, but I'll save it for next episode, where we will learn more...

First FMA with the gate, now E7 with the "Great Wall." Ome more show Bones makes to feature a portal to our Earth, and that is what they will be known for. This is how we now assume every Zelda game post-Ocarina to have Princess Zelda in disguise and look tough and/or badass.

[PickHut]

Wow, talk about a whole bunch of **** hitting the fan all at once. I'm actually amazed that none of the recurring characters managed to die in this episode with all that stuff going on. I think I almost had a heart attack when Holland's mech twisted in half and exploded. Great episode.

[Funkatron]

Fma'd

[Captain Highwind]

This is how we now assume every Zelda game post-Ocarina to have Princess Zelda in disguise and look tough and/or badass.

Did you just spoil Twilight Princess for me? o_o

[Kitschensyngk]

Anemone's a junkie
'Cause she's Dewey's flunkie
Coralian amoebae
Give a heebie-jeebie
Holland and his faithful
Fight amongst the wraithful
Hope no one will die way
Up there in the skyway
Renton and Eureka
And the children take a
Ultra-trippy ramble
Where they land's a gamble
But I'd say Japan's sea,
Some place where they can see
To salvaging the future
And to make a suture
Of people and of nature
And I've just run out of words that rhyme so I'm stopping it here
It's getting harder to make these up every week.

[Katsumara]

With all the talk about getting "FMA'd", I personally don't see how it's a problem. Twists in animes are nice if used correctly and I do believe this was used correctly. It all fit so nicely in a tight-uberawesome mold in my opinion, heh.

Nice rhymes btw, Kitschensyngk.

[Vyse]

Did you just spoil Twilight Princess for me? o_o
No. But, when the images of Twilight Princess started to come out, like an EGM cover, some people had begun assuming who was actually Zelda in disguise, especially after the spoilers that came from Ocarina and Wind Waker.

On-topic, I am curious to learn more about Anemone and the Earth. Can't wait til Friday.

And, Katsumara, this is more than simple plot twists. This is the second time Studio Bones has used "Portal to Our Earth" as a plot twist, the first being FMA. As a story element, it has the potential to become a cliche and predictable, especially if Bones uses this particular plot twist again.

[beren]

I wonder how big planet Eureka 7 is, and do they see what the earth is like 10 thousand years in the future (when the show is set, its been in past episodes) or are they just looking at the earth in the past? Are they actually seeing anything at all? The last trip in the zone was not exactly literal, I wonder about this one, please don't spoil it.

[Katsumara]

No. But, when the images of Twilight Princess started to come out, like an EGM cover, some people had begun assuming who was actually Zelda in disguise, especially after the spoilers that came from Ocarina and Wind Waker.

On-topic, I am curious to learn more about Anemone and the Earth. Can't wait til Friday.

And, Katsumara, this is more than simple plot twists. This is the second time Studio Bones has used "Portal to Our Earth" as a plot twist, the first being FMA. As a story element, it has the potential to become a cliche and predictable, especially if Bones uses this particular plot twist again.

Ahh.. are you referring to FMA's WW2 references and what not?

Just curious, but I understand the whole Portal to Earth thing.

[Master Moron]

There's no freakin' way Holland could have survived that explosion without a scratch. I call shark jump.

[CaptainRed]

I like this show... but this was the same twist as in FMA...

I think it's slightly different... in mechanics, if not in outcome. FMA didn't originate it either, though.


Geez.
If the ending to episode wasn't Fullmetal Deja' Vu


Fma'd

The only reason anyone here is saying that, is because FMA was the first employer of that idea to be airred on AS. As I said above: not unique to FMA.


And, Katsumara, this is more than simple plot twists. This is the second time Studio Bones has used "Portal to Our Earth" as a plot twist, the first being FMA. As a story element, it has the potential to become a cliche and predictable, especially if Bones uses this particular plot twist again.

As to Bones... maybe. But as a general plot device, this is old. As Vyse alluded to, Planet of the Apes used it. And another story that comes to mind:

Howl's Moving Castle. In the original novel, the plot device is present, though it is absent from the movie.


Ahh.. are you referring to FMA's WW2 references and what not?

Just curious, but I understand the whole Portal to Earth thing.

It was World War One, not Two.

...

I must have a bad, bad case of OCD if I felt it necessary to correct you on that. :¬(


There's no freakin' way Holland could have survived that explosion without a scratch. I call shark jump.

I agree... up until the shark jump. It is a testament to how much I'm enjoying this show that that didn't ruin the episode for me.

It was a cowardly piece of writing. A minute earlier, they had challenged any and all sympathies I had toward Anemone. Ten seconds earlier they had smacked her with new visions and epiphanies that made her even more interesting than before. I would have loved to have seen them push forward with the character like that. They canceled out the first item... I'm just glad they didn't cancel out the second.


In spite of that one gripe, this remains the one show on AS I look forward to watching each week.



It turns out it's man.

Cursed by his own hubris.

[Katsumara]

It was World War One, not Two.

...

I must have a bad, bad case of OCD if I felt it necessary to correct you on that. :¬(


Oh wow. I am really REALLY sorry for my stupidity. I could say I'd blame it on me being tired, but that'd be a cop out and I honestly had a brain fart. So, I'm sorry for appearing stupid. I knew what it was, but it just totally slipped my mind. No hard feelings or anything with the correction. It should've been made. I'd rather be told I was wrong or corrected on a mistake than going on with a false statement, heh.

Anyway, back on topic. I suppose I look at this "Transportation" a little differently than you guys, but eh, we'll see how it goes.

[Timmay]

There is a lot of difference between this and the FMA gate. You'll see what I mean in a few episodes.

[Duke]

So, the gateway leads to...Earth. *groans* I was tired of this plot point in FMA and I don't like it any more here. -_-

The rest of the episode was good, though, except Holland not being injured at all. At least have him bleeding or something.

[Kagetsu]

There is a lot of difference between this and the FMA gate. You'll see what I mean in a few episodes. Agreed, if I understand the origins right. I wasn't expecting Earth to be more than back story, like Last Exile (just in case)

I was expecting the Valderac to either not be killed by the antibodies or have a less ripped apart death, but no, they just accepted it easier. I'm also surprised Anemone didn't make it through with them, but she has yet to realize her partner. WoW, she tore Holland's LFO to pieces and he still survived. I thought sure they were pulling a Wolf's Rain.

[SS5goku]

This episode was alright I guess, Im not really into Renton and Eureka hooking up, but it's ok I supposed. Plus man come on Norab u look like twice that little girls age man. I know she's prob. the same age but still it doesn't look right.

[Ackar]

There is a lot of difference between this and the FMA gate. You'll see what I mean in a few episodes.

I think there were two scenes in this episode that showed the giant pillars connecting assumed-earth with the current outer world.

I'm just not sure if this will go the Doctor Who or Star Trek version of world within a world. (Didn't Babylon 5 also have a brief world within a world story as well?)

[adoptedBatpuppy]

I have been watching this series from the beggining and I have seen almost every episode, and I still don't get what's going on.. I wish this series would explain itself better.:sad:

[Captain Highwind]

Eh I thought this kind of plot works better here than in FMA. And it would make sense that they'd have a gate that linked back to Earth since they're on another planet (Like some sort of ancient escape route in case things turned ugly with the Coralians). FMA was just a copout for shock value.


Cursed by his own hubris.

*tee hee* Capt. Red said a dirty word! :P

[Kagetsu]

I have been watching this series from the beggining and I have seen almost every episode, and I still don't get what's going on.. I wish this series would explain itself better.:sad:
http://eurekaseven.bandai-ent.com/ This is the main Eureka site from Bandai. It can fill in a lot of gaps without really spoiling much, I believe.

[v1cious]

the earth bit is nothing like Fullmetal Alchemist, i can't explain it without giving away spoilers though. you'll find out more in the next episode.

[Duke]

And it would make sense that they'd have a gate that linked back to Earth since they're on another planet (Like some sort of ancient escape route in case things turned ugly with the Coralians).
Or they could've, you know, moved there in spaceships...

[Captain Highwind]

Or they could've, you know, moved there in spaceships...

Depending on how far away they are, it would probably be easier to just have a giant transportation gate.

They make it sound like it's been quite a pilgrimage to get to the planet they're on now. Not something that they can just jump from there to Earth on a spaceship within a year or two.

[Duke]

Depending on how far away they are, it would probably be easier to just have a giant transportation gate.

They make it sound like it's been quite a pilgrimage to get to the planet they're on now. Not something that they can just jump from there to Earth on a spaceship within a year or two.
Well, it could be like Battlestar Galactica where they search for a suitable homeworld and in the meantime live on the spaceships.

I mean, it's not like this is the first time this particular plot device has been used before, two recent examples being Zoids: Chaotic Century and Trigun.

[Freedom Fighter]

So beyond the Great Wall is... Earth? And here I was to believe we could eventually create giant mecha that can surf through the air. WTF?

Okay... in all seriousness...

For a big fight, this was definitely lacking in pizazz. Heck, even when Holland 'died,' I didn't feel anything. Maybe it was a sign... maybe I was imagining it. Maybe Anemone hadn't killed Holland, despite how violent the 909 was ripped apart. Or maybe, for one episode, the horrible writers from the early parts of the series had come back just to say 'let's kill Holland for no damn reason.'

So maybe I was relieved that Holland was still alive, and virtually unharmed. Okay, the virtually unharmed part bothers me too, but that's a much better trade-off than leaving him 'dead' in this case.

I was wondering how Anemone and the END missed following Renton, Eureka, and the Nirvash, but then it finally started to sink in. That she has the characteristics of a Corollian but really isn't one after all, or that she lacks the partner like Eureka has Renton and Sakuya has/had Norb (Dominic is probably her partner, but they're not connected the same way as the other two pairs).

So next week... what does Earth have to do with the Great Wall? How does it solve the probably Corollian overpopulation/Limit of Questions problem?

And, for the record, Eureka's kids > Dewey's 'kids'. I just want Eureka's to be quiet. Dewey's... I want dead.

"Star Dancer": 3.5/5.

[Dr. Anime]

The whole earth bit seems inspired by the Xenosaga trilogy. At least that's how I'm reading into it. Oh well we'll find out more as the show goes on.

Looks like Norb and Saikyu are probaly gone for good, but they had a nice exit and they helped Renton and Eureka in the end so at least their "deaths" weren't in vain.

Nice to see Charles and Ray in flashbacks!

Now this intresting I was checking AS Eureka Seven page (they haven't added any episode info past 28) However I noticed in a few weeks March 10th to be exact Eureka Seven is getting their first M rated episode.

[adoptedBatpuppy]

What's all this talk about promised land and a zone sounds to me like Fullmetal Alchemist's gate only on a different level. Norb talks as he would never see them again.
Dewey is a bad guy. Are Holland and Dewey brothers? If they are, they are so different from each other. :shrug:
So Anemone is drugging herself, why am I not surprized? :yawn:
The moments between Sakuya and Norb were cute and the music playing during this wonderful! :)
Why do antibody corralians appear and attack cities at random? Does Dewey have something to do with this? :confused:
How did Holand survive that explosion?
Anemone sure has lots of hatred towards Eureka and Renton.
She is not a Corralian, but a human trying to become like Eureka by taking drugs. :sad:
The flashback sequence worked great in this episode, all in all I'm begining to understand what this show is about. :sweat:
Are Norbu and Sakuya dead? What killed them?

[{Shadow}]

Are Holland and Dewey brothers? If they are, they are so different from each other. :shrug:

Yes, they're brothers. It was revealed a few weeks ago.


Why do antibody corralians appear and attack cities at random? Does Dewey have something to do with this? :confused:

Those Orange attacks Dewey has been launching are what's causing the Kute-class Coralians (the giant clouds) to appear and the Anti-body Coralians to emerge from them. So, yes, Dewey's responsible for them.

[MeggieMay]

I have been watching this series from the beggining and I have seen almost every episode, and I still don't get what's going on.. I wish this series would explain itself better.:sad:
This show actually will explain what is going on before it ends. It won't be a total, 100%, explanation but if they stick to the original script it will be fairly clear and much more clear than many animes get with explaining the plots, IMO.

Still, keep in mind that the show has been dropping clues all along. Two that standout to me are as follows. First, in the episode a few weeks ago where the Sage Council mentioned that by the time they figured out the planet was a sentient being, they population had exploded to the point they couldn't get everyone back on the "the ark" and leave (so it seems they came to this planet on some sort of colonization ark). Second, in the episode where Stoner discuss their ancestors surfing back on Earth (this is the one that started out with a different OP that was a flashback to what he was talking about). In that dialog Stoner mentions that what he is talking about happened 10,000 years ago. IMO, the time difference is important and should be kept in mind.


One other thing. There is a clue to what is going on in the show hidden in the current OP song. However, since we don't get the entire OP viewers probably haven't even noticed it or it may or may not have clicked yet that it could be a clue. So I'll mention what it is but I'll stick this under some spoiler cover so anyone who doesn't want to know can skip it.

In the song 'sakura ("Cherry Blossom")' is being sung with a counterpoint song. That song is is the traditional Christian Hymn "Amazing Grace" and this is important in two ways. First, a hymn is synonymous with a psalm and the full title of this show is Psalm of the Planets, Eureka Seven. Second, while the lyrics from "Amazing Grace" that are used in the OP are only from the first verse of the song, the entire song seems to have relevance to the series, IMO. So looking up "Amazing Grace"'s lyrics might help some people out, though honestly it didn't really all fall into place just how important the song might be until I saw all of the episodes then it was a "oh duh" moment for me ;)

[Juu-kuchi]

Not too bad an episode. Although I got that same FMA vibe that some here have had on it.

Holland must be damn lucky that his KLF does not have a cockpit in the lower torso. It does help that when Anemone teared him apart that she ripped from the torso and not within a great vicinity of the cockpit. Found it dramatically absurd though that Tiptree just walks out of a house relatively unscathed while everybody else nearby is dead.

[Swordfish_II]

Another wonderful episode.



First FMA with the gate, now E7 with the "Great Wall." Ome more show Bones makes to feature a portal to our Earth, and that is what they will be known for.

*cough*
Scrapped PrincessWell, kinda.