New Evangelion Movie Hits September 1st, 2007! [Archive]

Strollymonster

02-21-2007, 11:46 PM

Source (http://www.activeanime.com/html/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4595)

The first new animated NEON GENESIS EVANGELION movies will debut in theaters on September 1 in Japan, with the rest of the movies following in 2008. A special Yahoo! Japan homepage dedicated for the new films is now open, and it includes news, promotional video footage and a press release by the executive director Hideaki Anno.

The animation staff consist of veterans from the original series and new faces, as Hideaki Anno will pen the original story and screen adaptation. The movies will feature new characters and new EVA units. The animation is being produced by Hideaki Anno's newly-established Studio Color.

While I'm a big Eva fan, I'm really still skeptical that the new movies are going to live up to the Eva legacy.

Zeonic Freak

02-21-2007, 11:55 PM

Well, after hearing about it since like '03/'04, its about time.

Dark

02-22-2007, 12:04 AM

I'n trying really, really hard not to expect too much from this, but I know I will anyway.

Beat

02-22-2007, 12:11 AM

Anno's ego-driven press release has done little to sway my opinion about this being a cash-in on a franchise.

GWOtaku

02-22-2007, 12:11 AM

I have a weird feeling that it'll be an improvement and a decent film but that die hard EVA fans will hate it due to a lack of depression-inspired psycobabble, which would be rather ironic. That's pretty much what I'm hoping for, actually.

AstroNerdBoy

02-22-2007, 12:23 AM

All I keep thinking is that ADV must be REALLY hoping they can score the license to inject something fresh into their EVA line. *lol*

Harvey Two Face

02-22-2007, 12:57 AM

The only reason they are making new movies is because they rekon people didnt get enough out of what already had been made, so this next movie better be good or Eva is just gonna plummit in future projects.

Weatherman

02-22-2007, 01:21 AM

I'm interested to see what kind of take on the Eva mythos Anno is going to go with. Quite a fast production schedule.

Karl Olson

02-22-2007, 02:40 AM

I find it interesting that he's decided to split off and create a new studio though. I guess he was just getting bored with how things were going at Gainax (and given stuff like Melody of Oblivion and This Ugly and Beautiful World, I can't blame him really.)

Beefy

02-22-2007, 10:23 AM

And here I thought this was the live-action movie. Darn.

Leaping Larry Jojo

02-22-2007, 01:21 PM

How often can you milk a cow until its teats bleed?

Sandoz

02-22-2007, 02:23 PM

How often can you milk a cow until its teats bleed?
At least Anno's making new canon material, rather than just making more "Asuka and Rei are nurses/mermaids/Final Fantasy characters/etc." figures. (Though that'll surely happen anyway...)

Lutochris

02-22-2007, 03:00 PM

How often can you milk a cow until its teats bleed?

To be fair all the "milking" thus far has been merchandise related. There hasn't been any new animation since 1997, and really all we have are the 26 episodes and EoE. This isn't exactly Gundam we're talking about.

As for Anno just doing this for the money, like it wasn't still gonna bring in a ton of money regardless. What, were they gonna stop making Rei figurines unless Anno made a new movie? Did the merchandising contracts have some kind of "new movie" clause that they're forcing him to live up to?

Though the short production time makes me worry that this will be more clip show than new footage.

Sandoz

02-22-2007, 04:29 PM

All I keep thinking is that ADV must be REALLY hoping they can score the license to inject something fresh into their EVA line. *lol*
If the previous Eva movies were any indication, the new movies may be out of ADV's price range. (Though I'll say it now, despite the inevitable flames: I hope whoever gets the rights brings back the VA cast. Just don't let Amanda Winn Lee do the commentary.)

Leaping Larry Jojo

02-22-2007, 04:53 PM

If the previous Eva movies were any indication, the new movies may be out of ADV's price range. (Though I'll say it now, despite the inevitable flames: I hope whoever gets the rights brings back the VA cast. Just don't let Amanda Winn Lee do the commentary.)

The only interest I have is if they actually have a different cast, in which case you don't need to "bring back the original VAs". Personally, I think if they're trotting out Shinji and his buddies again along with a few new characters, this is just boring. I mean, how much more do we need to know about Shinji and friends? Do we WANT to know more about them? Frankly, I'm tired of Rei, Shinji and Asuka now. Even if you weren't a fan of Eva you probably know everything about them by now, and probably more than you ever wanted to as well.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-22-2007, 05:03 PM

The bread and butter of Eva was the character moments. Getting rid of the cast would be a bad move. I mean, the story itself isn't interesting at all, but the characters made the show worth watching.

Leaping Larry Jojo

02-22-2007, 05:28 PM

The bread and butter of Eva was the character moments. Getting rid of the cast would be a bad move. I mean, the story itself isn't interesting at all, but the characters made the show worth watching.

I agree that the story isn't the point, but psychoanalyzing a different cast of characters would actually be a breath of fresh air in this franchise.

All the Shinji and co. analysis have been beaten to death, and then beaten some more. Not just by Gainax, but by the millions and millions of anime fans everywhere. Even non-Eva fans know more about Shinji, Rei, Asuka and the rest of the buddies than they know some of their real-life cousins and family members. And frankly, who needs to see more of the same crap of Rei acting aloof and passive, Shinji whining, and Asuka acting like a b*tch? At least if you change the faces around, it's something different to look at.

Sandoz

02-22-2007, 05:40 PM

I agree that the story isn't the point, but psychoanalyzing a different cast of characters would actually be a breath of fresh air in this franchise.
Whether you like Shinji or not, the fact is that the show is so closely tied to him and his specific issues that removing him completely would just make it another generic giant robot show. (And since it's established that only those three children can pilot those specific Evangelions, they'd have to introduce new Evas as well, and without Eva-01 they might as well make a completely different series.) The intended audience isn't sick of the main characters; if they were, then GAINAX would have stopped stamping Rei's face on 90% of their merchandise a long time ago. (Plus, Kaworu appears so often in promo pics it's reasonable to assume that other, less over-exposed characters will have their time to shine as well.) If you're looking for a program that focuses on "Anonymous NERV Tech #1" or someone like that, there are already video games that deal with that sort of thing.

Leaping Larry Jojo

02-22-2007, 05:50 PM

Whether you like Shinji or not, the fact is that the show is so closely tied to him and his specific issues that removing him completely would just make it another generic giant robot show. (And since it's established that only those three children can pilot those specific Evangelions, they'd have to introduce new Evas as well, and without Eva-01 they might as well make a completely different series.) The intended audience isn't sick of the main characters; if they were, then GAINAX would have stopped stamping Rei's face on 90% of their merchandise a long time ago. (Plus, Kaworu appears so often in promo pics it's reasonable to assume that other, less over-exposed characters will have their time to shine as well.) If you're looking for a program that focuses on "Anonymous NERV Tech #1" or someone like that, there are already video games that deal with that sort of thing.

I disagree with the bolded. Eva wasn't great because of Shinji, it was because of how the show portrayed its subject matter. You could stick anyone there in place of Shinji and you'd get the same effect, as long as the show did the exact same things as before. The original fanbase stemmed from its appreciation of Anno's deconstruction of social decay in Japanese society.

If this is true that the cast will be the same, then you can't dispute what I said. It's milking a cow till it bleeds.

Still, it does say this:

The movies will feature new characters and new EVA units.Unless this takes place after the world goes to hell or before Shinji joined up in the first episode, I don't see how this could be anything but retconning if it is in the same universe.

Sandoz

02-22-2007, 06:03 PM

You could stick anyone there in place of Shinji and you'd get the same effect, as long as the show did the exact same things as before.
Then what's the point of even adding new characters if the show repeats itself for the same effect, instead of building on what's already been established?

If this is true that the cast will be the same, then you can't dispute what I said. It's milking a cow till it bleeds.Is this what fans say every time a new Gundam show comes out? Making new material ten years after the last film doesn't sound like milking a cow to death to me, but again I don't associate what Anno's doing with what the GAINAX merchandise department does.

Unless this takes place after the world goes to hell or before Shinji joined up in the first episode, I don't see how this could be anything but retconning if it is in the same universe.The films will take place before, during, and after the series.

Leaping Larry Jojo

02-22-2007, 06:15 PM

Then what's the point of even adding new characters if the show repeats itself for the same effect, instead of building on what's already been established?

Something new to look at. Again, Gundam pretty much does that. Throw your Gundam example right back at ya. ;)

Is this what fans say every time a new Gundam show comes out? Making new material ten years after the last film doesn't sound like milking a cow to death to me, but again I don't associate what Anno's doing with what the GAINAX merchandise department does.At least Gundam usually establishes a different cast each time. Even Zeta Gundam had a different main cast. My personal gripe, which has nothing to do with discussions of target audience, is basically that there is really nothing left to say about Shinji and co as main characters, especially after the way they ended it.

If they do something like a "Char's Counterattack" where you write the final word on the main cast as they are older, then you'd have to rejig the End of Eva a bit. But it seems like this will be occurring within the set timeframe, in which case, it'd be like doing an anime about what Amuro was doing during his lunch break. Even Sunrise didn't do that!

But if that's what fans want, who am I to argue?

KuwabaraTheMan

02-22-2007, 07:14 PM

But it seems like this will be occurring within the set timeframe, in which case, it'd be like doing an anime about what Amuro was doing during his lunch break. Even Sunrise didn't do that!

It's a remake of the series, dude...

Leaping Larry Jojo

02-22-2007, 07:22 PM

It's a remake of the series, dude...

Even worse, but I suppose film remakes for popular anime happen all the time anyway. That drops the interest level down to 10%

Can't see what all the fuss is about if this is the case.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-22-2007, 07:28 PM

Even worse, but I suppose film remakes for popular anime happen all the time anyway. That drops the interest level down to 10%

Can't see what all the fuss is about if this is the case.

Because it's going to be fleshing stuff out more and adding new stuff in. Not to mention new animation.

Leaping Larry Jojo

02-22-2007, 07:32 PM

Because it's going to be fleshing stuff out more and adding new stuff in. Not to mention new animation.

Still pointless. Of course, it's my opinion only. I'm entitled to that, right? ;)

I always felt that the Mobile Suit Gundam movie trilogy remake seemed pointless after I saw the original TV series. And yes, the movie trilogy had new animation too. 1st movie about 5%. 2nd movie 10%, 3rd movie 20%.

Zeonic Freak

02-22-2007, 08:08 PM

Unless this takes place after the world goes to hell or before Shinji joined up in the first episode, I don't see how this could be anything but retconning if it is in the same universe.

So if it takes place after Hellish World, i guess they would fight Satan or something??? Or just show how Asuka and Shinji grow up in a world with them... i guess.

It seems more logical to take place before, or AU...

Kurokawa41

02-22-2007, 10:26 PM

This looks interesting. I'd like to see where they're headed with this and I suppose I'll watch one of the movies when it comes out to see it for myself first.

Hanshotfirst113

02-22-2007, 11:08 PM

How, in all of the hells? Didn't the world end in EOE? Doesn't that negate sequels?

Kurokawa41

02-22-2007, 11:17 PM

How, in all of the hells? Didn't the world end in EOE? Doesn't that negate sequels?

Could be an alternate universe dealie.

Ragebot

02-22-2007, 11:23 PM

How, in all of the hells? Didn't the world end in EOE? Doesn't that negate sequels?

Yeah, I have a problem with this too. I'm unfortunately reminded of 2010: The Year We Made Contact.

However, I wouldn't have a problem if, say, the sequel is a nice long psychoanalytical conversation between Shinji and Asuka:

"Anta, baka? Of course I'm Asuka! Who the hell do you think I am!"

HellCat

02-23-2007, 05:41 AM

I'm in the camp that thinks Anno's recent statment was too smug.

PeppeRaskell1

02-23-2007, 08:27 AM

Indeed, the original Evangelion is going to be an (extremely) tough act to follow.

Lutochris

02-23-2007, 09:25 AM

Still pointless. Of course, it's my opinion only. I'm entitled to that, right? ;)

I always felt that the Mobile Suit Gundam movie trilogy remake seemed pointless after I saw the original TV series. And yes, the movie trilogy had new animation too. 1st movie about 5%. 2nd movie 10%, 3rd movie 20%.

I'm in agreement with you that if this is basically the same as the MSG movie trilogy, I'm not that interested. But if it's more than that, you can't really compare this to a franchise like Gundam which has a new series or movie every couple years. Eva has 26 episodes and 1 movie that came out in a 2 year span. If Anno were planning on taking this thing into the Gundam level, then I'd agree a new cast would be in order. But it's been 10 years since the original, and I'm guessing that this will be the last of it, at least for a very long time.

OverMaster

02-24-2007, 11:48 AM

I agree that the story isn't the point, but psychoanalyzing a different cast of characters would actually be a breath of fresh air in this franchise.

All the Shinji and co. analysis have been beaten to death, and then beaten some more. Not just by Gainax, but by the millions and millions of anime fans everywhere. Even non-Eva fans know more about Shinji, Rei, Asuka and the rest of the buddies than they know some of their real-life cousins and family members. And frankly, who needs to see more of the same crap of Rei acting aloof and passive, Shinji whining, and Asuka acting like a b*tch? At least if you change the faces around, it's something different to look at.

Oh please. EVA has only had 26 anime episodes and two movies so far, in anime form, and less than 15 volumes between both official mangas. If you aren't an obsessive EVA fan reading every overanalysis in the Web and fanfic, you haven't been overexposed to so much of the characters as we have endured with the thousands of episodes of, say, any standard Shone Jump anime (Naruto, Dragon Ball, One Piece. Mind you, I love One Piece).

Hanshotfirst113

02-24-2007, 11:19 PM

It's a remake of the series, dude...

What is?

KuwabaraTheMan

02-24-2007, 11:38 PM

What is?

...The 4 movies this entire thread is about.

Hanshotfirst113

02-24-2007, 11:57 PM

...The 4 movies this entire thread is about.

...are a remake of the series? Then what if Frith's name is the point?

KuwabaraTheMan

02-25-2007, 12:14 AM

...are a remake of the series? Then what if Frith's name is the point?

Because they're adding in lots of new stuff with new information and plot elements, not to mention new animation.

Same purpose any remake(like the Gundam ones) have. To allow new elements to be added, that the creator wants to put in.

Kyuss

02-25-2007, 01:57 AM

It's the same reason Lucas "remade" Star Wars or the Turtles franchises being rebooted. It's about the story teller's need or desire to retell the story in some fashion to either a) reach a broader audience and/or b) changes in the way formats are giving. By formats consider the advances in graphical design, animation changes over the years, and indeed the receptiveness of some people to watch something in a "new" light.

Take Appleseed for example. The movie first time around didn't do much, but thanks to changes and updates, Appleseed not only got a new movie but now is garnering a new anime series.

Noukon

02-26-2007, 04:49 PM

It's the same reason Lucas "remade" Star Wars or the Turtles franchises being rebooted. It's about the story teller's need or desire to retell the story in some fashion to either a) reach a broader audience and/or b) changes in the way formats are giving. By formats consider the advances in graphical design, animation changes over the years, and indeed the receptiveness of some people to watch something in a "new" light.

Yep. Hellsing is a good example, as well; telling a popular story in a different way can be better or worse, but is usually interesting regardless.

Zam

06-27-2007, 05:28 PM

Is this Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lajKBTO5z-w&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecomicastle%2Ecom%2Fforo%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Fp%3D248012) real?

Zeonic Freak

06-27-2007, 05:37 PM

These are pretty awsome if there fan made:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRB2woVxcQ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GoCvuB8Ow

I dont like Ritsuko with long hair, but hey, she looks good regardless...

WolfieKiwi

06-27-2007, 05:42 PM

And here I thought this was the live-action movie. Darn.

As did I...

I blame all the false trailers on Youtube. >.<

Rolling Cloud

06-27-2007, 05:51 PM

I'm on episode 20 of the original Eva anime. Do I need to finish it to see these?

That's all I want to know, simple as that. :)

Zeonic Freak

06-27-2007, 05:54 PM

if your that far, go ahead and get it outta the way...

Rolling Cloud

06-27-2007, 06:21 PM

if your that far, go ahead and get it outta the way...

Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks. :)

wingdarkness

06-27-2007, 06:24 PM

What happened to the live action movie though?

FlyByNite77

06-27-2007, 06:27 PM

What happened to the live action movie though?

ADV was still looking for funding and my hunch is that after Transformers makes a gazillion dollars this summer they'll find it as Hollywood makes a rush on giant robot movies akin to the comic book rush after Spider-man and X-men.

Leaping Larry Jojo

06-27-2007, 06:52 PM

Do you people really want to see a live action Evangelion? I mean, seriously. Think about it.

wingdarkness

06-27-2007, 07:11 PM

^It's not that we want to or don't want to see it in live-action...It's that it's already been promoted as coming out in live-action format for some time now...I remember reading a full magazine spread on this over a year ago...SO I just kinda found it odd a new animated movie is getting pub with the live-action movie in the woodworx now...I'm with you though as I'm sure some Michael Bay clone might wanna put some fireballs or flames on EVA-Unit 1 :rolleyes:...

Kuroba

06-27-2007, 08:31 PM

I still need to finish the series. I'm watching EVA on TAN, and am on episode 3, so I hope I finish in time. ^^;

Weatherman

06-28-2007, 01:24 AM

What happened to the live action movie though?

According to Dave Williams, it is still in development right now. It's going to take alot of convicing for anyoen to pony up the dough it would take to do an Eva movie right, probably over 60 million per partner. No matter how popular the anime has been, that's a drop in the bucket compared to a full Hollywood production, so it may be a while yet.

Harvey Two Face

06-28-2007, 02:50 AM

I'm sure il like the new movie but im not expecting all that much either, though I would really love it if they followed through with the live action movie, I mean really, it's a great story, it's just the problem of finding someone rich enough to follow through with it. But I reckon it would be a great movie.

Beat

06-28-2007, 07:03 PM

Do you people really want to see a live action Evangelion? I mean, seriously. Think about it.

Did people want to see Big Momma's House 2?

If people think the public will bite, they'll fund it, regardless of the reality of the situation.

MR.MXYZPTLK

06-29-2007, 10:14 AM

Alot of people seem to be getting Rebuild of Evangelion confused with WETAs
live action film. Rebuild looks pretty cool.
http://project5555.com/images/june/HEI1.jpg

http://www.project5555.com/images/may/eva00.jpg

http://www.project5555.com/images/may/ticket.jpg

veemonjosh

06-29-2007, 11:45 AM

Alot of people seem to be getting Rebuild of Evangelion confused with WETAs
live action film. Rebuild looks pretty cool.
http://http://project5555.com/images/june/HEI1.jpg

http://http://project5555.com/images/june/pallet_gun.jpg

"The page cannot be displayed"

Yep, that's looking pretty cool.

Rasputin

06-29-2007, 12:16 PM

"The page cannot be displayed"

Yep, that's looking pretty cool.

Just take out the extra 'http//' from the address bar. That should do it.

MR.MXYZPTLK

06-29-2007, 12:49 PM

Fixed. Sorry about that.

True Noir

07-03-2007, 01:54 PM

What is everyone's thought on their being a new closing theme song for the EVA movie? Hikaru Utada announced that she wrote "Beautiful World" which will be replacing the closing theme "Fly me to the Moon".

*note: she says opening theme but in a later blog she corrects herself.

http://hikki.blogspot.com/2007/07/on-sunday-in-akihabara.html

Anyway, I'm kind of excited for this film. Eva is never really let me down.

Rolling Cloud

07-03-2007, 02:17 PM

MR.MXYZPTLK

07-03-2007, 02:23 PM

I was kinda hoping for Frank Sinatra's, but its a nice version of the song, and a lot better than the "Fry me to the moon" We got in the original series.

I'm pretty excited about the new movies as well. I liked the original but was dissapointed by the ending. I'm hoping the new movies remove alot of the christian metaphores, as well the main charachters constant whining.;)

Sandoz

07-12-2007, 05:46 PM

Real trailer alert! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaWj2mCm5TU)

It looks like an interesting blend of new and old material. The Angel battles look impressive. (ZOMG, Shamshel!)

Kurokawa41

07-12-2007, 05:50 PM

Damn.

And here I thought you'd gotten a better-quality version of that trailer.

bigdeath

07-12-2007, 08:27 PM

Source (http://www.activeanime.com/html/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4595)

While I'm a big Eva fan, I'm really still skeptical that the new movies are going to live up to the Eva legacy.

What? The new movies can't be worst than EVA or else it would set a new meaning for...er...bad...yeaaaaah...bad. :p Ok, I'll admit it. I liked EVA and I'm sure that the movies will do just fine, I think. :shrug:

Rolling Cloud

07-12-2007, 08:30 PM

Damn.

And here I thought you'd gotten a better-quality version of that trailer.

Hey, she did the best she could

Anyways, I really gotta kick it into high gear if I plan to finish the EVA series before these launch.

Kurokawa41

07-12-2007, 08:47 PM

Hey, she did the best she could

Anyways, I really gotta kick it into high gear if I plan to finish the EVA series before these launch.

No, I mean I've already seen this trailer before, so I was hoping there was another higher-quality one out there somewhere.

Rolling Cloud

07-12-2007, 08:48 PM

No, I mean I've already seen this trailer before, so I was hoping there was another higher-quality one out there somewhere.

Ohh, I see. Well, in that case, I'm hoping too in some way.

Kurokawa41

07-12-2007, 08:49 PM

I like the song, too. That kind of music isn't really my type but it was pretty beautiful.

Swordfish_II

07-13-2007, 03:49 PM

Better quality version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pfnqsEEEpo)!

Wow.

Kurokawa41

07-13-2007, 04:07 PM

Better quality version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pfnqsEEEpo)!

Wow.

Thank you very much.

Zam

07-13-2007, 05:30 PM

Sweet!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/3DSAM/vlcsnap-1088657.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/3DSAM/vlcsnap-1090260.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/3DSAM/vlcsnap-1089384.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/3DSAM/vlcsnap-1088166.jpg

HG Revolution

07-13-2007, 05:52 PM

Eh. For a trailer, it's pretty poorly put together. Nobody who isn't already acquainted with the show would find it interesting. The digital work is pretty but the animation itself doesn't seem like much to write home about. Looks less like a movie and more like what the TV show would have looked like if it actually had a budget. Well, that was a surprisingly good Fly Me to the Moon cover.

HellCat

07-13-2007, 07:28 PM

Wait wait wait...Eva has an animation budget now? *runs*

;)

J'onn J'onzz

07-13-2007, 07:43 PM

Hey, she did the best she could

Anyways, I really gotta kick it into high gear if I plan to finish the EVA series before these launch.
Eh, watch an episode a week and you'll finish it in time.

Anyway, I saw a poster for this here in Japan. It looks pretty good.

Rolling Cloud

07-13-2007, 07:55 PM

Nice to hear from you again! (:

Eh, watch an episode a week and you'll finish it in time.

*checks calender* Hmm, I'll finish by mid-August, Good enough for me.

Harvey Two Face

07-13-2007, 09:25 PM

Better quality version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pfnqsEEEpo)!

Wow.

Man that is so cool, I LOVE IT!

rubberchicken

07-13-2007, 09:46 PM

Wait wait wait...Eva has an animation budget now? *runs*

;)
Hopefully they won't spend it all hiring a J-Pop/Rock performer to speak a handful of lines. :gir:

RAINMAN

07-14-2007, 04:14 AM

Look like clips from a video game.

Ashton Anchors

07-14-2007, 09:30 PM

Look like clips from a video game.

Lol hardly. They'd look a lot worse if they actually used game clips (n64 and PS2 NGE games)

Captain Highwind

07-15-2007, 11:59 PM

Well that was just jazzy.

Hikaru's really getting her name out there.

Rolling Cloud

07-16-2007, 12:06 AM

Hopefully they won't spend it all hiring a J-Pop/Rock performer to speak a handful of lines. :gir:

Yeah, didn't you hear..They're getting Ayumi Hamasaki to play Maya Abuki! ;)

Strollymonster

07-16-2007, 12:40 AM

New trailer was pretty impressive. It seems like they're going to be re-doing a lot of old shots with better art...I noticed more than a couple that were practically lifted from the episodes.

Either way, this looks pretty nice. I like what they did with Shamshel, he was always one of the least impressive or memorable Angels...plus he looked like a giant floating wang.

Sandoz

07-16-2007, 04:12 PM

Here are some comparison shots:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6292/1184615399523mp3.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1184615399523mp3.jpg)http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5664/1184615473865bh3.th.jpg (http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1184615473865bh3.jpg)http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3382/1184615570182xl8.th.jpg (http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1184615570182xl8.jpg)

Zam

07-22-2007, 11:45 PM

More seconds of Eva 01 in action. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgQXQrHGgc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecomicastle%2Ecom%2Fforo%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D2622%26page%3D4)

I hope the movie feels like a "movie" and not just a long summary of a TV series.

Strollymonster

07-24-2007, 09:22 PM

Did a bit of digging, found out the new theme song for the movie.

While living up to Cruel Angel's Thesis would be pretty hard to do, Utada Hikaru's "Beautiful World" (http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8lidIwK6Us&mode=related&search=) does have a charming quality that pleases me.

Zam

07-24-2007, 09:40 PM

Rasputin

07-25-2007, 04:55 AM

Does this means that this story remake will be more optimist?

According to some of the earlier reports, we may actually see Rei expressing emotion somewhat. Something to do with voice recasting, 'parently.

Since Anno has spent much of his post-GAiNAX career poking fun at his 'angry teen phase', he might have felt this a good opportunity to go back and rectify things somewhat.

Kurokawa41

07-25-2007, 02:42 PM

Just because the song is optimistic doesn't necessarily mean the remakes will be more optimistic or lighthearted; in fact, it can mean the opposite.

Zechs

07-25-2007, 08:48 PM

They just won't let it DIE.

RAINMAN

07-30-2007, 04:59 AM

According to some of the earlier reports, we may actually see Rei expressing emotion somewhat. Something to do with voice recasting, 'parently.

Since Anno has spent much of his post-GAiNAX career poking fun at his 'angry teen phase', he might have felt this a good opportunity to go back and rectify things somewhat.

More like he want to cash in on the show being very populare.

Furu

07-30-2007, 04:42 PM

More like he want to cash in on the show being very populare.

That's absolutely ridiculous. Do you honestly think he actually needs the money? If so, why not make it a TV series or something that would be cheaper and more profitable in the end? Why not do this years ago when Eva's popularity was even bigger?

Because maybe, just MAYBE, he actually wants to do these movies.

RAINMAN

07-31-2007, 04:39 AM

That's absolutely ridiculous. Do you honestly think he actually needs the money? If so, why not make it a TV series or something that would be cheaper and more profitable in the end? Why not do this years ago when Eva's popularity was even bigger?

Because maybe, just MAYBE, he actually wants to do these movies.

And he wants to get pay too. Besides,the sereis ended like 9 or 8 years ago,thats not really long.

Gokou Ruri

07-31-2007, 04:53 AM

That's absolutely ridiculous. Do you honestly think he actually needs the money? If so, why not make it a TV series or something that would be cheaper and more profitable in the end? Why not do this years ago when Eva's popularity was even bigger?

Because maybe, just MAYBE, he actually wants to do these movies. Or he spent all the money he got from the TV series on fast cars and needs more. :sweat:

Vallen Valiant

07-31-2007, 09:08 AM

And he wants to get pay too. Besides,the sereis ended like 9 or 8 years ago,thats not really long.
Anime movies are not generally big money earners, since they are a nitch market even in Japan (unless Miyazaki Senior is the director:p ).

It's not going to be that profitable, but I certainly will enjoy it when it comes out.

Sandoz

08-03-2007, 02:29 PM

New footage, courtesy of MezamashiTV. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iwAXyPBMYo8)

Movie06

08-03-2007, 06:44 PM

Impressive trailer I like it, and the art is a major improvement; I think Anno is trying top himself and you know, when I watched the trailer I was expecting the song This Calling by All That Remains (From the Saw 3 soundtrack) to pop up somewhere in terms of the music but that's just me I recently listened to the song and liked it alot.

Zam

08-03-2007, 06:53 PM

New footage, courtesy of MezamashiTV. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iwAXyPBMYo8)

O__O........

In the original series Shinji was "emotionally depressive unstable" and now he looks more like "emotionally angsty stable".

Strollymonster

08-03-2007, 08:13 PM

Damn, they're really exploiting the new animation budget.

Loved that they covered the little moving bits that the Eva series is known for. All the machinery that's attached to supporting the Evas and NERV was always one of the trademarks of the series, and it's one of the things that brings more realism to the series; a reminder of just how much logistics goes into something of this magnitude.

Hurray, the worst father in the history of parents has appeared! All Hail Gendo!

Also got a look at the new warning/timer screens that are bound to be common in the control center. Looked good, but the new 3D-style control plug display looks like it's also going to be displaying sync ratios, from what I can tell. Reminds me of the Matrix for some reason.

Shamsel looks pretty good in motion, especially with all those new weird rib thingies moving about.

I think these new movies will also finally get the ball moving on the live-action adaptation. If they can effectively condense the story from the TV series into movie-length adaptations, then it would be much easier to go from there for a live-action adaptation. Not saying that it wouldn't suck in the end, but there's always hope.

HellCat

08-03-2007, 08:17 PM

I think Anno is trying top himself

Not again!

*rimshot*

Movie06

08-03-2007, 08:30 PM

Not again!

*rimshot*

Well, Evangelionn is his personal Anime you know, a very personal Anime I might add.

Harvey Two Face

08-03-2007, 10:11 PM

Strollymonster

08-04-2007, 03:44 AM

Everything just looks a lot shinier and fuzzier.

It's called "bloom" effect. For more information, see the nearest copy of "Fable".

Seriously, though, I can't wait to see what they do for the weirder ones like Sandalphon or Sahaquiel...not to mention, are they going to change the actual faces/bodies of the Evas? We only see the face once (2nd episode) and the next time it's out of the helmet, it's wrapped in bandages.

Vallen Valiant

08-04-2007, 10:44 AM

Seriously, though, I can't wait to see what they do for the weirder ones like Sandalphon or Sahaquiel...not to mention, are they going to change the actual faces/bodies of the Evas? We only see the face once (2nd episode) and the next time it's out of the helmet, it's wrapped in bandages.
Well, according to official design sketches, Evas got rather featureless bodies and faces under all that armour. An EVA's external appearance is so critical to its identity that Gainax never really allowed any of them to be shown "naked". And anyway it never really mattered; what's striking about an Eva is not how alien it looked, but is instead how human it appeared to be. It has five digits per limb (fixed error. :p), fingernails, eyes, a mouth.

Unless the new movies somehow desire the Eva's physical appearance to influence major plot-points, I doubt that aspect will be explored.

Nobuyuki sama

08-05-2007, 02:32 AM

how human it appeared to be. It has ten fingers per hand
I know what you're trying to say, but dang if it ain't funny. :)

RAINMAN

08-06-2007, 05:00 AM

So these new characters that are supposed to pop up, Are they gonna push old ones to the side to make room for them?

Vallen Valiant

08-06-2007, 05:05 AM

So these new characters that are supposed to pop up, Are they gonna push old ones to the side to make room for them?
What new characters?:confused:
This is the first time I have heard about that.

If there is going to be new major characters, we would know about them by now. As it is, it would already be a monumental task to fit in the majority of the regular TV cast.

Paul_Cousins

08-06-2007, 06:12 AM

It's called "bloom" effect. For more information, see the nearest copy of "Fable".Actually they turned the noise filter to high when recompressing the video.

Furu

08-06-2007, 06:17 AM

They've stated (several times) that the new characters won't appear till movie 2.

Vallen Valiant

08-06-2007, 06:49 AM

They've stated (several times) that the new characters won't appear till movie 2.
In that case, we will see. The second movie is so far away, it would be meaningless to speculate right now.

Sandoz

08-10-2007, 11:10 PM

Here's the second Rebuild trailer. (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=jHahq1G4n6M)

Most of the footage was in the tv promo, but here it's without the annoying text and voice over.

Strollymonster

08-11-2007, 03:34 AM

Here's the second Rebuild trailer. (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=jHahq1G4n6M)

Most of the footage was in the tv promo, but here it's without the annoying text and voice over.

Much better. The more I hear "Beautiful World", the more it grows on me.

Is it just me, or is it Kaworu's upside-down face we see towards the end of the trailer? That'd definitely be a major change from the original series, as I don't recall him showing up until episode 24.

Sandoz

08-11-2007, 02:13 PM

Is it just me, or is it Kaworu's upside-down face we see towards the end of the trailer? That'd definitely be a major change from the original series, as I don't recall him showing up until episode 24.
Yes, that's Kaworu. It's been confirmed that he will be in the first film (he's in the Sadamoto-drawn theatrical poster) but no one knows just how big a role he'll play. It could be nothing more than a cameo.

(Part of me is annoyed that Kaworu gets to appear before Asuka, but considering that he's one of the more popular--yet underdeveloped--characters, it's not that surprising that they'd try to squeeze him in. I hope he's more like Manga!Kaworu this time around.)

FamilyEvaGuy

08-11-2007, 02:27 PM

Yes, that's Kaworu. It's been confirmed that he will be in the first film (he's in the Sadamoto-drawn theatrical poster) but no one knows just how big a role he'll play. It could be nothing more than a cameo.

(Part of me is annoyed that Kaworu gets to appear before Asuka, but considering that he's one of the more popular--yet underdeveloped--characters, it's not that surprising that they'd try to squeeze him in. I hope he's more like Manga!Kaworu this time around.)
I totally agree, he was too underdeveloped, maybe even in the Two recent movies "End of Eva and Death and Rebirth). If you look at the slogan "You are (not) alone." this maybe an opportunity to let Kuworu really shine

Kaiser0120

08-11-2007, 09:09 PM

I hope he's more like Manga!Kaworu this time around.)

What's Kaworu like in the manga? No less gay I hope. :O

Sandoz

08-11-2007, 09:23 PM

What's Kaworu like in the manga? No less gay I hope. :O
Spoilers for the manga:
In the manga, Kaworu is introduced much earlier and he is a more sinister figure. There's one infamous scene where he kills an orphaned kitten in front of Shinji, claiming he's being "merciful" by not leaving it alone to starve to death. He's still "gay" in the sense that he's very interested in Shinji and even tries to give him "mouth to mouth." However, Shinji and Kaworu are not friends in the manga. Shinji finds Kaworu to be very unsettling.

Zam

08-11-2007, 11:40 PM

Strollymonster

08-11-2007, 11:51 PM

Evangelion on Cover of Rolling Stone Mag in Japan

The cover girl for the September issue of the Japanese edition of Rolling Stone magazine (on sale August 10) is Neon Genesis Evangelion's Rei Ayanami. The illustration by animator Fumio Iida (Aim for the Top! Gunbuster, The Wings of Honneamise) adorns both the cover and the included poster supplement.

The cover coincides with an article called "Eva no Saishinsaku wa Eco Datta?" ("The Latest Eva Work Is About Ecology?") with the English subtitle, "Does Evangelion Save Us?" The article covers the Evangelion: 1.0 You Are [Not] Alone movie remake of the psychological science fiction series. It follows the magazine issue's "Rock Meets Eco!! Stop Global Warming" main feature.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/3DSAM/09_contents_hyousi.jpg

Are they saying that the movies with original storylines are going to have an environmental focus? Not sure how I'd feel about that.

Oh, and it would be the most insane thing ever if this cover made it to the US version of Rolling Stone...I have to imagine people would be beyond confused: "Who's this blue-haired cartoon girl, where's Tom Cruise?"

Zam

08-12-2007, 12:07 AM

Oh, and it would be the most insane thing ever if this cover made it to the US version of Rolling Stone...I have to imagine people would be beyond confused: "Who's this blue-haired cartoon girl, where's Tom Cruise?

Or they would say:Omg!!, A sexualizated underaged character on the cover of Rolling Stone!!!

Strollymonster

08-12-2007, 01:15 AM

Or they would say:Omg!!, A sexualizated underaged character on the cover of Rolling Stone!!!

Rei's actually showing a lot less skin in her plugsuit than most women that get a cover shot on Rolling Stone.

That, and underage sexualized subjects aren't exactly new territory for covershots. There are a few models/actresses that have fit that role quite well.

Either way, if this somehow hit the American Rolling Stone, the sheer oddness would probably get it a mention in the mainstream news media.

RAINMAN

08-12-2007, 04:34 AM

Spoilers for the manga:
In the manga, Kaworu is introduced much earlier and he is a more sinister figure. There's one infamous scene where he kills an orphaned kitten in front of Shinji, claiming he's being "merciful" by not leaving it alone to starve to death. He's still "gay" in the sense that he's very interested in Shinji and even tries to give him "mouth to mouth." However, Shinji and Kaworu are not friends in the manga. Shinji finds Kaworu to be very unsettling.

Manga shinji does have his moments.

Pepperidge

08-12-2007, 04:52 AM

That, and underage sexualized subjects aren't exactly new territory for covershots.

I think that may have been Zam's point.

HellCat

08-12-2007, 06:40 PM

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/3DSAM/09_contents_hyousi.jpg

Trying to trump EOE? Do we get to see Rei beat the Angels by a misdirected sneeze? :p

Space Cadet

08-12-2007, 06:49 PM

Evangelion on Cover of Rolling Stone Mag in Japan

The cover girl for the September issue of the Japanese edition of Rolling Stone magazine (on sale August 10) is Neon Genesis Evangelion's Rei Ayanami. The illustration by animator Fumio Iida (Aim for the Top! Gunbuster, The Wings of Honneamise) adorns both the cover and the included poster supplement.

The cover coincides with an article called "Eva no Saishinsaku wa Eco Datta?" ("The Latest Eva Work Is About Ecology?") with the English subtitle, "Does Evangelion Save Us?" The article covers the Evangelion: 1.0 You Are [Not] Alone movie remake of the psychological science fiction series. It follows the magazine issue's "Rock Meets Eco!! Stop Global Warming" main feature.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/3DSAM/09_contents_hyousi.jpg

I think the most interesting thing about this is that I didn't know Rolling Stone had a Japanese edition of their magazine.:p

Zam

08-12-2007, 10:11 PM

I think the most interesting thing about this is that I didn't know Rolling Stone had a Japanese edition of their magazine.:p

Me too, :lol:

FamilyEvaGuy

08-15-2007, 05:10 PM

I think the most interesting thing about this is that I didn't know Rolling Stone had a Japanese edition of their magazine.:p
RS is world wide in fact!! what really amazes me is the fact that they include an animated character on the cover (though i'm sure this isnt the first time they've done it)

RAINMAN

08-16-2007, 04:56 AM

And they used rei too.:anime:

Harvey Two Face

08-16-2007, 07:22 AM

Can anyone think back to another time where an NGE character was on the front of a world wide magazine?

HellCat

08-16-2007, 06:48 PM

Can anyone think back to another time where an NGE character was on the front of a world wide magazine?

You make it sound like this will be the global cover.

Sandoz

08-17-2007, 02:35 PM

Can anyone think back to another time where an NGE character was on the front of a world wide magazine?
It's not a big deal. Rei Ayanami is a very iconic character in Japan; it's the equivalent of Captain Jack Sparrow appearing on an American Rolling Stone cover.

ETA: And here's more Rebuild footage (http://www.emimusic.jp/blogparts/hikki_bw/). Hope none of you are sick of "Beautiful World" yet.

Space Chief

08-17-2007, 04:21 PM

Or they would say:Omg!!, A sexualizated underaged character on the cover of Rolling Stone!!!

I think the bigger problem is her HOLY GIANT GIRAFFE NECK, but I might be wrong.

Leaping Larry Jojo

08-17-2007, 05:59 PM

Just because the song is optimistic doesn't necessarily mean the remakes will be more optimistic or lighthearted; in fact, it can mean the opposite.

Most likely it will be more evenly balanced. Anno, by all reports, is pretty content these days and he tends to channel his emotions of the moment onto whatever he's working on at the time.

One thing I dislike about remakes, is the idea that an auteur wants to correct something that was "embarrassing" to him. That may be true, but it's still an important phase of an artist's career, and he should leave it as a record of what his thoughts were at the time, much as he might disagree with it NOW. I'm sure if it had less whining, some people would like it better, but IMO that still doesn't feel right to me. There are always people who dislike something in a work of fiction, but you can't keep changing things to make it go down better for them.

I have to admit I'm still mildly curious about this, but I can't help but wonder if maybe Anno has run out of things to talk about now that he's a happier man...

Harvey Two Face

08-17-2007, 10:24 PM

It's not a big deal. Rei Ayanami is a very iconic character in Japan; it's the equivalent of Captain Jack Sparrow appearing on an American Rolling Stone cover.

ETA: And here's more Rebuild footage (http://www.emimusic.jp/blogparts/hikki_bw/). Hope none of you are sick of "Beautiful World" yet.

Man this trailer just makes me want to see it more, I like what they've done with the inside of the entry plug.

Kaiser0120

08-18-2007, 05:57 AM

After reading about Kaworu's nature in the manga, I hope that version stays far away from the movie. c.c

Furu

08-18-2007, 10:44 AM

After reading about Kaworu's nature in the manga, I hope that version stays far away from the movie. c.c

Yeah, heaven forbid he actually has a personality beyond yaoi fangirl bait.

Strollymonster

08-19-2007, 02:06 AM

Yeah, heaven forbid he actually has a personality beyond yaoi fangirl bait.
Well, in the original series, he seemed to come across as a figure that had some hope for humanity. His total willingness to accept Shinji for what he was seemed to indicate a tolerance for the imperfections of living beings. His manga actions, however, seem to be much more harsh. As an Angel, it would be more in line to be against humanity (and related genres), but at the same time, Kaworu was best known for allowing himself to be sacrificed so that humanity would have a chance...

Either way, it'll be interesting to see which way he goes in the new one. I really can't wait now.

Has there been any word on who's going to get the rights to the new movies for dubbing? Honestly, I'd love to hear the some of the people that did the older dubs come back, sans the lady that does Misato. No offense to her, but she was just a tad too bubbly for a character with so much burden.

Really, they just need to get the voices of the three Children and Gendo right, especially Gendo; if they don't have a guy that can act like a big enough ***hole, it might not work.

Zam

08-19-2007, 03:49 AM

ETA: And here's more Rebuild footage (http://www.emimusic.jp/blogparts/hikki_bw/). Hope none of you are sick of "Beautiful World" yet.

Nice, So the Shinji/Misato relationship will be explored more intensesly.

Do you guys think this will happen again?.....

http://www.arune.com/eva/kiss.jpg

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Strollymonster

08-19-2007, 12:13 PM

Nice, So the Shinji/Misato relationship will be explored more intensesly.

That was a fairly major scene, as it was the last time that Shinji ever saw Misato alive.Looking at the trailers, it seems that a lot of the new stuff is the exact same scenes spruced up with better animation. Thus, I really doubt they'll edit it out. It's hardly the most controversial scene in Evangelion...lest we forget that scene in the hospital room with a comatose Asuka.

Sandoz

08-19-2007, 01:03 PM

That was a fairly major scene, as it was the last time that Shinji ever saw Misato alive.Looking at the trailers, it seems that a lot of the new stuff is the exact same scenes spruced up with better animation. Thus, I really doubt they'll edit it out. It's hardly the most controversial scene in Evangelion...lest we forget that scene in the hospital room with a comatose Asuka.
Well, this is only the first movie and it's been said that the Rebuild ending will be "all new," so it's much too early to say whether or not the events of EoE (as we know them) will take place.

KuwabaraTheMan

08-19-2007, 01:29 PM

ETA: And here's more Rebuild footage (http://www.emimusic.jp/blogparts/hikki_bw/). Hope none of you are sick of "Beautiful World" yet.

I have to say this is looking pretty sweet. I'm excited to see how this all comes together, and what the new version is going to look like. It definitely looks like they're keeping the feel of Eva here.

Leaping Larry Jojo

08-20-2007, 02:29 PM

Nice, So the Shinji/Misato relationship will be explored more intensesly.

Do you guys think this will happen again?.....

http://www.arune.com/eva/kiss.jpg

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I hope she doesn't end up sleeping with him. That would be an insult to Misato.

Sandoz

08-20-2007, 02:45 PM

I hope she doesn't end up sleeping with him. That would be an insult to Misato.
Seconded. I never liked the "Misato secretly has feelings for Shinji" business in the later episodes and EoE. Even ignoring the moral issues there, Shinji's just so...unappealing. Misato's messed up, but she couldn't be that desperate.

It's bad enough that there are spin-off games that turn Eva into a generic harem show. It's disappointing to see a character as complex as Misato reduced to "the MILF".

Zam

08-21-2007, 12:09 AM

Damn, now I´m courious how the Shinji/Misato thing will be adressed on the manga. Altough Sadamoto could just ignore it.

RAINMAN

08-24-2007, 03:42 AM

I hope she doesn't end up sleeping with him. That would be an insult to Misato.

On the other hand it would make shinji look like a mac.:sweat:

Sandoz

09-01-2007, 02:40 PM

Well, the movie's out. Here are some spoilers/key differences that were posted on the Eva Monkey (http://drinian.org/emf/viewtopic.php?t=3340) forums.

*The color of the sea is depicted as red, instead of being blue.
*Sachiel is attacked by ordinary bombs and missiles, before being attacked with a N² bomb.
*The NERV logo has been slightly changed
*The Seele logo has been changed.
*Shinji wears an ID card on his chest within NERV headquarters.
*The Eva launch sequence is primarily done with CGI.
*Unit 01 now features various glowing, green colored bands.
*Before returning to Misato's apartment, Shinji and Misato go shopping for food.
*Within the convenience store and Misato's apartment, corporate product placement is visible (Lawson Convenience Stores, Frito Lay, Yebisu Beer, Kirin Beer, and UCC Coffee).
*When Shinji and Misato watch Tokyo3 go underground, the scene is primarily done with CGI.
*Shamshel's segmented limbs are completely CGI.
*Unit 01 uses a gattling-gun against Shamsel, instead of a simple rifle.
*After grabbing Shamshel’s "energy whips", Unit 01’s hands are revealed to be composed of humanoid flesh.
*Unit 01's progressive knife is housed in the upper-portion of the shoulder.
*When Shamshel is killed, he entirely liquifies into blood, except for his "energy whips", which remain imbedded in Unit 01.
*When running away from home, Shinji spends a night sleeping in a business district, within a cardboard box.
*Shinji ends up walking to a portion of highway which was damaged by his latest fight, and finally decides he wants to return home.
*After making this decision, NERV agents appear, and return Shinji to Tokyo-3.
*Ramiel is almost entirely animated with CGI, and when attacking or defending changes shape.
*When devising the plan to combat Ramiel, Misato holds a short meeting with the other adults, so they can discuss an effective strategy.
*The preparations for the battle with Ramiel are more involved, and shown with greater detail.
*Shinji explains to Misato that piloting an Eva is scary for him, but it must seem easy to Misato because she observes everything from behind a computer terminal.
*Lilith (said to be Adam) is shown to Shinji, and Misato explains that the angels are attacking Tokyo3 because they want to free "Adam", and trigger a "third impact".
*Touji and Kensuke send a Shinji a message wishing him good luck with his next encounter.
*Before engaging Ramiel directly, NERV utilizes a variety of conventional weapons (missiles, heavy artillery, etc.).
*Shinji hits Ramiel with an initial beam of energy, but it does not kill Ramiel. Ramiel's response nearly destroys the entire mountain which houses Unit 01 and Unit 00.
*Gendou recommends having Rei take the next shot at Ramiel, but Misato objects, and says that Shinji will remember the encouraging words from Touji and Kensuke, and regain his confidence.
*When killed, Ramiel hardens into a spiked-ball and explodes into a rain of blood.
*Shinji uses Unit 01's progressive knife to remove Unit 00's entry plug, so he can free Rei.
*Kaworu is introduced at the end of the film. He rises naked from a box, and speaks directly with Seele 01, and concludes by saying he wants to hurry and meet Shinji.

Other sources, including Anime News Network, have info regarding the new character as well.

It is a brunette, glasses-wearing girl, who is possibly the pilot of the completely redesigned Eva-06.

I'm not too excited by the idea of a new female pilot; I hope she doesn't steal Asuka's thunder. I wonder what her major psychological problem will be, though.

Ikou

09-01-2007, 02:45 PM

I was going to post the spoilers but wasn't sure if I should post them this tread or make a new one. But anyway those sound interesting and cool. When is the next movie set to be released?

Sandoz

09-01-2007, 03:52 PM

Here's (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/rebuild_of_evangelion_1stimpression.html) a blog post with more spoilers and first impressions. There's a bit of conflicting information, however. Like whether or not Misato has mistaken Lilith for Adam.

When is the next movie set to be released?
Sometime in 2008.

OverMaster

09-02-2007, 11:50 AM

Other sources, including Anime News Network, have info regarding the new character as well.

It is a brunette, glasses-wearing girl, who is possibly the pilot of the completely redesigned Eva-06.

I'm not too excited by the idea of a new female pilot; I hope she doesn't steal Asuka's thunder. I wonder what her major psychological problem will be, though.

Dammit, they should have just given that role to Hikari and be done with it.

HG Revolution

09-02-2007, 11:53 AM

So when does this get licensed?

And assuming ADV is licensing this, will they wise up and give it a release for more than one night?

Sandoz

09-02-2007, 12:01 PM

So when does this get licensed?
My guess is not for a while, since whoever bids on it will surely try to secure the rights to the three following films that haven't been released yet.

macattack

09-02-2007, 12:06 PM

Dammit, they should have just given that role to Hikari and be done with it.

QFT. It would've been cool to see Hikari piloting one of those things (especially since it would piss Kensuke off all the more . . .)

As for licensing . . . it's really an open race at this moment. ADV will be in it, for sure. Manga Entertainment might want it too, considering they have Death And Rebirth and EoE. Viz has the manga rights, so they might want the movie rights too. And Funi, Bandai, and Geneon might all want it just so they can get money. Lots and lots of money.

I don't see any news about licensing coming until spring 2008 at least, though.

asphaltviking64

09-02-2007, 12:37 PM

So anyone know what happens to Toji. Think he'll get killed or maimed or severely disabled. How do you think they'll treat his character?

Sandoz

09-02-2007, 11:11 PM

I think it would be an interesting new twist if Toji actually had some time in the pilot seat of Unit-03 before Unit-01, um...paints the town red. But with all this speculation about how the new character is going to fit in the plot, I wouldn't be surprised if Toji is pushed aside.

Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33869) has a review up, and it lists a few more differences.

*The Dead Sea Scrolls are not mentioned at all.
*Unit-01 does not activate without power to protect Shinji.

Rolling Cloud

09-02-2007, 11:15 PM

*Unit-01 does not activate without power to protect Shinji.

Um, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that scene major in the beginning and is foreshadowing to later events?

Why would they cut it? :confused:

Strollymonster

09-03-2007, 01:46 AM

Um, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that scene major in the beginning and is foreshadowing to later events?

Why would they cut it? :confused:

From what I've seen of the trailers, it's apparent that it definitely does go into "Berserker" mode against Sachiel. I guess the question is what leads up to that? Is it the old "arm-breaking followed by head impalement" from the series, or does the berserker activate without massive trauma beforehand?

Furu

09-03-2007, 10:12 AM

Um, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that scene major in the beginning and is foreshadowing to later events?

Why would they cut it? :confused:

You're assuming "later events" are going to be anything like the TV series. This will more than likely only diverge from the original as things proceed.

bigdeath

09-03-2007, 02:14 PM

Um, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that scene major in the beginning and is foreshadowing to later events?

Why would they cut it? :confused:

It might have had a place in the show but time is very restricted in a movie so they might have cut it out just to save time.

Strollymonster

09-03-2007, 03:46 PM

It might have had a place in the show but time is very restricted in a movie so they might have cut it out just to save time.

If they cut anything, I hope it'd be the "Shinji runs away" scenes. That was my least favorite episode because it just dragged forever without really adding to the story.

bigdeath

09-03-2007, 03:50 PM

Is it just me or does this just seem like a way to milk this series one more time? Whats the point of this new movie anyway? :shrug:

Caswin

09-03-2007, 04:15 PM

Is it just me or does this just seem like a way to milk this series one more time? Whats the point of this new movie anyway? :shrug:To create an ending that doesn't leave the audience scratching their heads until they're forced to give up before they wind up with a head wound?

I can hope.

bigdeath

09-03-2007, 04:33 PM

To create an ending that doesn't leave the audience scratching their heads until they're forced to give up before they wind up with a head wound?

I can hope.

I'll second that. :anime: But can they really make such an ending and have fans except it. Plenty of people think eva is deep but can't explain why. To me thats just a sign that its very confusing. Oh well, one more time, hey. :shrug:

Lutochris

09-03-2007, 06:25 PM

asphaltviking64

09-03-2007, 09:24 PM

Yes and many more people think it's deep and CAN explain why. Just because you couldn't understand it doesn't mean it's meaningless. I sure hope Anno didn't decide to dumb it down to please his less sophisticated critics.

If Anno was really that interested in "milking" it, why would he have waited 10 years to make another movie? Prior to this movie, Eva consisted of 26 episodes and 2 movies released over a span of less than 2 years. And now 10 years later, the original artist decides to remake his masterpiece with a fresh perspective. Yet some people act like he's milking it to Gundam levels. Call me in 30 years when he's closer to 500 episodes and 20 movies.

It's kind of like the philosophy behind Star Trek and the sequels. The first series is classic but you just have to stop with it or else it will get old. Whe the movies came and TNG people watched it for the nostalgia and got something completely different out of it while the fans got resolutions to many classic characters and even more questions. The philosophy behind this is stopping to take a break from evangelion for a few years while planning on how it will become better. Then when the new movie comes out people will go crazy and love it for both nostalgia and something new like the sixth child.

Lutochris

09-04-2007, 03:26 AM

Well there was a ten year gap between the last episode of the original Star Trek and the first movie (unless you count the 22 episode animated series from 1973). Though I kind of doubt that the new movies will spawn an entirely new generation of Eva animation.

Think of it this way and you'll realize how long it's been since the last new Eva: the ENTIRE Pokemon anime - all 500+ episodes, 10 movies, and however many OVAs/specials - has come and gone in the time since the last new Eva animation was released.

Gokou Ruri

09-04-2007, 04:19 AM

Is it just me or does this just seem like a way to milk this series one more time? Whats the point of this new movie anyway? :shrug: Didn't they re-release the DVDs like 3 times? Each time with "2 seconds of unseen footage" a lot of companies do to get people to double/triple dip?

RAINMAN

09-04-2007, 05:05 AM

[quote=Sandoz;2638503]I think it would be an interesting new twist if Toji actually had some time in the pilot seat of Unit-03 before Unit-01, um...paints the town red. But with all this speculation about how the new character is going to fit in the plot, I wouldn't be surprised if Toji is pushed aside.

I really hope he gets better treatment this time but you may be close to the truth seeing how anno don`t care for him. Writers can be very clueless when it comes to char like toji and not realizeing they could be interesting if wreting in a good way.

HellCat

09-04-2007, 06:36 AM

To me, it does seem kind of like milking it. For years, Anno's position was that Eva represented a very dark time in his life and he didn't want to revisit it, to the point he was angry about doing EOE and has made some rather blunt comments to whiny fanboys...now he's going on about how wonderful and deep it all is and needed to be revisited.
Maybe those are his true feelings but I can't help but feel those are the words of a man under pressure from those above him or a man who needed money and saw a quick way to get it, since fanboys will eat up ANYTHING Eva.

Furu

09-04-2007, 06:53 AM

What "man above him"? This is being done by Anno's new animation studio, the one he put together for pretty much the entire purpose of doing this project.

People can change, and if you look at his work over the years, Hideaki Anno certainly has.

HellCat

09-04-2007, 07:34 AM

Vallen Valiant

09-04-2007, 07:48 AM

True, people can change. But in a big industry like this, sometimes people will be nice and polite for publicity sake. It just seems odd that after all this time he not only wants to bring back Eva but in a way that plays up to all the related marketting.
I don't know about you, but if given a choice I would rather that a movie I make be finantially sucessful... A movie that don't sell, don't get seen.

None the less, I don't see why you would think Anno is being greedy. A greedy person wouldn't wait ten years before making a new animation of Evangelion. If the marketing is clever, good on them; that's certainly not a crime. No fan is being robbed here, Gainax will sell exactly as much EVA franchise items as people are willing to buy.

On that matter, how do you think Gainax pay its bills? Fame doesn't fill the belly. And their Gurren Lagann anime needed financing after all. Being poor and starving doesn't make an artist a bad person, but that certainly doesn't mean a successful company would be unworthy of its livelihood either.

HellCat

09-04-2007, 08:09 AM

Vallen Valiant

09-04-2007, 09:21 AM

My issue is more one of artistic integrity. One thing I could enjoy about Eva was that Anno didn't subscribe to the nonense that all the annoying fanboys did. Now, his public statments are saying that he does. Why? Ideally, all creators should be pleased with their work but to go from "Eva is what it is. I'm done with it, take it as you will" to saying it needs to be brought back and such...it just feels so forced.
It HAS been ten years though. I can't see why revisiting a project many years down the track should somehow be looked down upon. If this was just about cashing in, there had been dozens of Evangelion spinoffs that could have been animated in all these years. It could have been turned into a Gundam-sized franchise monster, but Gainax never went that far.
(Yes, I know there are tonnes of variety of EVA spinoff merchandise. But they are always limitted in production scale compare to Gundams and Totoros. Only a small proportion of the overall EVA merchandise is on sale at any one time, as such they aren't earning as much as you might think.)

Ten years is a long time, HellCat. Sometimes an artist could feel nostalgic too. I believe Anno is serious about why he does this, so integrity shouldn't be affected. (And as I mentioned before, anime movies are traditionally risky investments. If this is about money, it would be safer to go for OVAs or TV series.)

HellCat

09-04-2007, 02:56 PM

But why such a sharp turn in attitude? The guy seems to have gone from "I hate Eva" to "I love Eva". That's an awfully sharp turn to be taking, especially from someone who seemed to advocate the importance of moving on and not constantly rehashing one work again and again. Yet now he's going back and giving fans what for years he said they'll never have. People can change and creative minds can be fickle (say he, the design student) but it's such a swift change.

Lutochris

09-04-2007, 03:07 PM

I wouldn't call 10 years a "sharp" turn or a "fickle" change. I'd call it stubbornly gradual.

If this was just about the money it would have made much more sense to do this on TV or OVA. And any network would have certainly jumped at a chance, if not begged and pleaded, to have the new EVA show to air.

To further explore why Anno's sentiments may have changed from "it's over and I'm done with it" 10 years ago to what it appears to be today, let's take a look at what has happened in the animation world in the time since End of Eva was released in the summer of 1997:

- Anime has made huge strides outside of Japan. In the west it's gone from underground showings at college campuses to mainstream theaters and TV. American and European companies are making co-productions with Japanese studios. And American and European cartoons have even started to take on a distinctly Japanese look. Basically, there's a MUCH bigger audience for Eva today, one that was never there in 1997.

- The Internet has changed the landscape of television and movies in general. The web had already taken off back then, but it was nothing like it is today. There was no YouTube, no MySpace, no bittorrent, etc. Everybody can basically see everything now. Audiences are far more jaded today - they think they've seen everything, and it's far more difficult for filmmakers to create something that truly challenges people's perspectives. And that's what Eva was really all about, changing conventional perspectives.

- Countless new animes have been produced (see my comment above about Pokemon), but to date there's been nothing that comes even close to challenging viewers the way Eva did. I'm NOT saying there's been nothing as good or better than Eva, but nothing has come out that has truly challenged its audiences to the same degree.

I think this is what Anno meant when he made that bold statement that was something like "No anime has been released that is 'as new' and Evangelion". He was directing that at the industry and other animators as much as he was audiences. Maybe what he hopes to do is to make people remember how much Eva shook things up all by itself, and hopefully it will be a wake-up call to a new generation of artists and audiences alike to demand and create more stuff that will both excite and enrage the way Evangelion did.

Gokou Ruri

09-04-2007, 03:21 PM

If this was just about the money it would have made much more sense to do this on TV or OVA. And any network would have certainly jumped at a chance, if not begged and pleaded, to have the new EVA show to air. I doubt he'd be able to get Eva back on TV unless he decides to show it at 2 AM in the morning. Eva sparked the heavy Japanese television censorship that we see today, so it would have to either be on a satellite channel like Elfen Lied, or at a 2 AM time-slot (provided the content wasn't that bad); none of which would get much attention like a prime-time slot on TV Tokyo or something would.

To further explore why Anno's sentiments may have changed from "it's over and I'm done with it" 10 years ago to what it appears to be today, let's take a look at what has happened in the animation world in the time since End of Eva was released in the summer of 1997:

- Anime has made huge strides outside of Japan. In the west it's gone from underground showings at college campuses to mainstream theaters and TV. American and European companies are making co-productions with Japanese studios. And American and European cartoons have even started to take on a distinctly Japanese look. Basically, there's a MUCH bigger audience for Eva today, one that was never there in 1997.

- The Internet has changed the landscape of television and movies in general. The web had already taken off back then, but it was nothing like it is today. There was no YouTube, no MySpace, no bittorrent, etc. Everybody can basically see everything now. Audiences are far more jaded today - they think they've seen everything, and it's far more difficult for filmmakers to create something that truly challenges people's perspectives. And that's what Eva was really all about, changing conventional perspectives.

- Countless new animes have been produced (see my comment above about Pokemon), but to date there's been nothing that comes even close to challenging viewers the way Eva did. I'm NOT saying there's been nothing as good or better than Eva, but nothing has come out that has truly challenged its audiences to the same degree.

I think this is what Anno meant when he made that bold statement that was something like "No anime has been released that is 'as new' and Evangelion". He was directing that at the industry and other animators as much as he was audiences. Maybe what he hopes to do is to make people remember how much Eva shook things up all by itself, and hopefully it will be a wake-up call to a new generation of artists and audiences alike to demand and create more stuff that will both excite and enrage the way Evangelion did. All of those can be seen as "marketing" though. If it can be released in multiple countries and more people are willing to buy it now rather than just Japan than back in the late 90s when he said he was "done", since he now knows more people will buy it, he's making more? I'd say that's along the lines of making a big profit.

HellCat

09-04-2007, 03:22 PM

When I look at Eva, I don't see a guy who set out to shake things up. I see a creative mind who was troubled and the end result just happened to be one of the most interesting works in recent times. From his own comments and the production of the show (including the final 2 episodes being "Screw plot, I'm gonna do what I want to do"), it always struck me that Eva was something very personal for him and something that couldn't really be replicated. So for him to now be all gung ho about bringing it back and making statments about how important it is...why? It just doesn't sound right. Not to typecast, but let's not forget that Anno is a child of a nation that prides polite social standing and going with the majority. Under that light, his comments sound like business speak.

Kurokawa41

09-04-2007, 04:06 PM

I'm in the boat that doesn't think he's milking it. If he were milking it, something else would have been made in the 10 years since the last piece of Eva animation was made. 10 years is quite a long time. Not to mention, this is just a trilogy of remakes; not a new series, not anything really new that will be continuing for a while. Just a set of remakes.

HellCat

09-04-2007, 04:09 PM

Lutochris

09-04-2007, 04:24 PM

It was a personal work for him, but not just for him. It was also for other people suffering the way he was, which he identified as the youth of the time. Shinji was supposed to relate to them. Whether or not he intended it to have such a huge effect on audiences, it did. And the way he sees it (with that quote about nothing being "newer" than Eva), and I agree with him, there's been nothing since Eva that has managed to challenge audiences as much as it did back then. That doesn't sound like business speak, but more like he's calling out people for not taking up where he left off.

Contrary to popular belief he did not just make Eva for himself, and the last 2 episodes were not just meant to make sense to himself and say "screw you" to everyone else. He was actually trying to say something (in the last tv episode - "to all the children everywhere - congratulations!"). He gave audiences something they never had before.

Kurokawa41

09-04-2007, 04:29 PM

Something else has been made in the last 10 years. Games, mangas...infamous figurines.

Meh, I didn't mean that, I meant more animation. And I bet Gainax got more from that than the creator, anyway. But then again, I don't know a whole lot about that kind of stuff.

Also, there's been like two games and two mangas.

HellCat

09-04-2007, 04:42 PM

Lutochris

09-05-2007, 02:51 PM

Obviously we can't know what he's thinking, which is why we're having this debate. If we could read his mind there would be no need for a discussion.

I'm basing what I said on Anno's quote (that no anime is "newer" than Eva), and the fact that the show spoke to me and so many other people so profoundly. As I said before, nothing has ever challenged the audience like Eva has, and certainly nothing as successful as Eva. If all he wanted was a self-serving "screw you" ending, that wouldn't be the case.

Zam

07-26-2008, 12:54 AM

Er, any news or anything about the second movie? I thought it was planned for ´08. :shrug:

Taekmkm

07-26-2008, 01:17 AM

I didn't know there was a thread for this.

I watched the movie, and honestly it's what EVA should've been. This is Anno's work without being constricted of budget cuts, or making the 23 minute 'monster of the week' deadline. You notice this by the number of Angels cut from 17 to 13 (admit it, Computer virus Angel? Really?) and much 'pointless' wandering.

Also, the scene where Eva protects Shinji from the beam needed to be removed. It's a huge plot hole that's never really followed up (no capsule), and makes the Berserk more suspensful and WTFness.

And this is no way a simple "milking" when the entire storyline's about to be changed in the next movie. Kaworu arriving at the end, Misato already knowing it's Lilith, "EVA from the moon," etc. Shinji's also changed for the better, if comparison to the Manga Shinji. This is also 100% new animation, not the half-assed complimation movies Gundam makes back in the old days with hybrid new/old (Remember Zeta Gundam?)

The second movie should have an announcement around September, a sort of "Lord of the Rings" esque tradition.
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HellCat

07-26-2008, 10:31 AM

This is also 100% new animation, not the half-assed complimation movies Gundam makes back in the old days with hybrid new/old (Remember Zeta Gundam?)

:crying: At least we have sequels, instead of milking the same story and 2 certain females to death.

Taekmkm

07-26-2008, 01:02 PM

garfield15

07-26-2008, 01:52 PM

However, many theorize the Rebuild movies are part of a loop, after the world rebuilds from EoE and Shinji's slowly regaining his memories. This would explain the weird EVA chalk mark in the beginning, Misato calling it Lilith, and Kaworu commenting it's the third child 'again.'

Knowing Anno, that would make a lot of sense. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.

So Eva units 05 and 06 huh? From the small teaser at the end, Unit 05 kind of looks like Barrel Dragon from YugiOh.

Unit 06 looks badass

HellCat

07-26-2008, 01:58 PM

I really don't think it's the same story, starting with the second movie. Heck, it could be twice the retcon as Zeta's movie ending or greater than Fukuda's SEED ending. Except the retcon's everywhere.

However, many theorize the Rebuild movies are part of a loop, after the world rebuilds from EoE and Shinji's slowly regaining his memories. This would explain the weird EVA chalk mark in the beginning, Misato calling it Lilith, and Kaworu commenting it's the third child 'again.'

If the movies do something new, then fair play to them. As I said in the past, I have no real beef with Eva or Anno. It's the fanbase and the merchandising I decry, the fact that well over a decade later we keep getting figures of Rei and Asuka as race girls, police officers, geishas, etc.

There seems to be this thing, especially in Japan, that most Gundam fans are also big Eva fans. Really, I can't. There's a good story there and some philosophical discussions that actually make wonderful sense, but the overall universe lacks a depth that doesn't invite my long term attention. That goes back to my above complaint, in that most every attempt to do a sequel/spin off becomes fanservice with popular, familiar faces in unrelated settings.

xage

04-02-2009, 12:51 PM

The question is once it hit US soil:

Will Funimation match the marketing superiority that ADV (with its Evangelion TV Series) and Manga-Anchorbay (with its 2 Ending Movies).

ADV's line up of Evangelion release boast superior packaging innovations and lead to a metal perfect platinum edition packaging.

And as far as theater run is concern, ADV is best know in prmoting movie excellently even if its on limited theater release.

On Manga-Anchorbay's end, the limited releases of Death, Rebirth and End of Evangelion made a craving to new Evangelion Fans to obtain the DVD (right now the cost of each movie ranges $50 to $100 - New Sealed)

Right now in Japan, the Limited Edition Set is like a Jewelry with its scarcity and demand cost at the market. Same goes at Europe, with its Steelbook Limited Edition Release.