"Great" games you hate

[Douglas E.]

What games get alot of hype from critics or fans that you hate or think are OK but not great. For me I'll say Sonic CD. A good game but I never understood the hype about it.

-Doug

[Frank Castle]

God of War. I just got bored with it. Everything after fighting the Hydra was just repetitive.

[Shawn Hopkins]

I don't know about great, but most people seem to think of "The Getaway" as at least good. But I hated it. It accurately simulates one of the things I hate most, getting lost while driving in a city on a deadline. The gunplay portions manage to be both derivative and overly difficult and, if you fail them, the way I remember it you have to do the horrible driving sections again.

I think reviewers must have been too dazzled by how slavishly it ripped of Guy Ritchie to realize the game surrounding those cutscenes just wasn't very good.

A lot of people like Myst, too, but I don't really get it. I like me some adventure games, especially the Lucasarts ones, but the puzzles and interactions in Myst are too abstract and obscure for me.

Also, playing Ghosts and Goblins for NES is some sort of "hardcore" badge of pride, but I've played it extensively and have decided that the reason it's so tough is simply because it is poorly programmed. The jumps are hard because the platforms don't line up right with the graphics and your jump is too weak. The red demons are too random to reliably beat.

[James Bester]

Kingdom Hearts. I wouldn't say I "hate" it, but I think it's incredibly overhyped. The gameplay gets repetitive, and the storyline isn't really too interesting to me. Most of the dialogue is way too corny for me, and the majority of the plot is about disney movies I really don't care about. Sure the whole Organization XIII plot was alright, but the presence of Donald and Goofy really brings down the serious parts of the game. It just seems average to me. I'll never understand why several people actually call it the greatest RPG franchise.

[Stickman]

If Black counts, then I'm saying "Black"

[SuperPhillip]

Halo 2. I find it severely overrated, and I got very bored playing it.

[Captain Highwind]

Kingdom Hearts.

It's only a matter of time until we see "Final Fantasy" next.

[Eddy]

It's only a matter of time until we see "Final Fantasy" next.
Mark me down for every Final Fantasy I've ever played. I do not care for Final Fantasy at all.

Kingdom Hearts, Sonic CD, Diddy Kong Racing, and Donkey Kong 64 are all good examples of games that are highly overhyped/overrated. It's not that all of them are "bad," but they aren't nearly as good as they are made out to be. I'm sure there are others, but I can't think of them right now.

[Hurricane V1]

The Grand Theft Auto games. There, I said it. Moving around in a giant environment means nothing to me if I'm not enjoying the action, and I just don't enjoy the action of GTA. I'd rather play a linear game like Prince of Persia for the puzzles and combat system. Not that I don't like 'sandbox' games. I did enjoy playing Spiderman 2 until the main story ended. Never known anybody to not enjoy the GTA games. I guess they're not overhyped but I just don't like them myself.

Never been a big Halo fan either. They're fun, but I'd usually rather pull out the old N64 and play Goldeneye.

[Classic Speedy]

Also, playing Ghosts and Goblins for NES is some sort of "hardcore" badge of pride, but I've played it extensively and have decided that the reason it's so tough is simply because it is poorly programmed. The jumps are hard because the platforms don't line up right with the graphics and your jump is too weak. The red demons are too random to reliably beat. Good point. I don't like the Ghosts N' Goblins/Ghouls N' Ghosts series for that very reason: They're too hard. I rarely have enough patience to get past the first level on any of the games because I just plain don't like the platforming engine, with its slow-moving character, the limited range of movement (i.e. you can't change directions mid-jump), and how needlessly difficult it is to jump from platform to platform. If people want to claim I suck at gaming, so be it, but I don't really enjoy those games.

My choice would be Metal Gear Solid 3. It provided a mildly fun experience while it lasted but once it was over, I had no reason to play it again. And it seemed like the majority of the time I had my hands off the controller, watching the large amounts of cinemas. Not surprisingly, I've had more fun playing Snake vs. Monkey than the actual game itself. :p

[Michael24]

I wouldn't say I "hate" them, but I've never been able to get into the Resident Evil or Metal Gear Solid games. They're nice to look at, and I've often watched while my brother plays them, but I just can't get into them.

[Ahiru-kun]

Halo 2. I find it severely overrated, and I got very bored playing it.

I find every FPS to be overrated. I mean you're basically always doing the same thing.

[TnAdct1]

I'll say Tales of Symphonia. The big reason why consider it to be overrated is the fact that the story itself is basically one RPG cliche after another.

[Captain Highwind]

I'll say Tales of Symphonia. The big reason why consider it to be overrated is the fact that the story itself is basically one RPG cliche after another.

At first the character designs really turned me off. I don't like heavily chibi-ized 3D designs in games when they can clearly look better proportioned, which is why I'm having a hard time playing Radiata Story (although it's turning out to be pretty funny).

[SirLemming]

I'm going to go ahead and personally treat this as the "overrated games" thread rather than the "'great' games you hate" thread...


Goldeneye for N64. Is it a great game? Probably. But the deathmatch wasn't nearly as revolutionary as everyone made it out to be. It was just the first big console FPS with 4-player deathmatch. I didn't find the deathmatch itself to be particularly noteworthy.

[Vyse]

If I had to choose between the Grand Theft Auto franchise, the Gran Turismo series, and the entire stealth genre, I pick the GT games. I never really got into or played the stealth games outside of the first level of MGS1 (I am, however, interested in MGS4), and my moments with the modern GTA games were good. Gran Turismo 3 made me want to throw the PS2 controller. If I wanted to experience realism and drive real cars, then I would rather drive around in my real car. In fact, I hate sports sims, too, because of the realism. :mad:

[R-Taco]

1.) Halo 2, because there's nothing about it that's particularly interesting that can't be found done better elsewhere.

2.) Gran Turismo, because GAMES are made to be FUN, not realistic. If you want realism, try life. It's free.

[Eddy]

Oh, I forgot about Guitar Hero. It's fun for a while, yeah. But eventually it just gets boring.

[Juu-kuchi]

I'll say Tales of Symphonia. The big reason why consider it to be overrated is the fact that the story itself is basically one RPG cliche after another. To me anyway, it redeemed itself with the combat system and the characters.

Grandia III was essentially the same way, but that did it in a way that made the cliche of the stories are presented to you with all the subtlety and impact of a hammer repeatedly bludgeoning you on the head, regardless of the good combat system and the coolest mom in video games.

Children say no to Jade Empire. Well-crafted with such care by Bioware, but had none of the things that made KOTOR deep and engaging. I also consider:
-Halo 2 (although it can be fun to play at times)
-Guitar Hero (to some degree, I just don't really want to play it right now)
-Metal Gear Solid 2 (convoluted and corny story of the second arc ruined it for me. Raiden I didn't particularly care for, but didn't find very annoying.)

[Mikintosh]

Since Ghost 'n Goblins, Sonic CD, and Metal Gear Solid were already taken, I vote baseball games in general. The sport's already boring to watch, but you hardly have much to do, you don't have nearly the same kind of control over the players as you would if you were actually playing the game IRL, and there's just no flow. Have baseball games improved at all since the 80s, besides adding absurding long season modes?

And after playing Sega Genesis Collection, I can't say I'm a fan of Golden Axe 1 or 2, both of which would have been a lot better if they played like Final Fight, if that makes sense.

Also, Ecco the Dolphin, good lord.

And Perfect Dark.

[.Automatisch]

God of War, Halo 2, Elite Beat Agents, Jade Empire, DOA, Any GTA after III, Final Fantasy 1 and 2, Kingdom Hearts I, BF2, WoW, WC3, Ninja Gaiden, DMC, SF3 TNG/2I/3S, Mortal Kombat II [people always claim it's the best... -_-], Banjo Kazooie, SOCOM series... I have more but those are just the ones off the top of my head.

[EscaflownePilot]

Gears of War's multiplayer - everyone seems to think it's just so wonderful, but I think it's absolutely terrible. The weapons are horribly unbalanced, and nearly everything you do, you end up fighting against the controls. The A button does too many damn things and if I'm not getting killed because of weapons issues, then I'm getting killed because I either got sucked into cover when I didn't want to be, or because I rolled when I wanted to cover. Honestly, most of the controls are just plain stupid. When games like GRAW and Rainbow Six have the cover system down so well, there is just no excuse for a game with such poor controls as Gears of War. It is so very rare that I kill or get killed and feel like it wasn't just dumb luck that the controls just happened to cooperate for me. And yet, everyone praises Gears as the next Halo in-terms of multiplayer. Bleh.

Another one would be Dark Cloud 2. I can't tell you how many people recommended this to me, along with all the great reviews... but the fighting is just plain cheap - I had so many deaths that felt like there was nothing I could possibly do to avoid them. Even that would be okay, were it not for the absolutely ridiculous number of highly repetitive random dungeons you had to craw just to get anywhere, let alone get all the parts and stuff you needed for building your towns. I loved the concept, the music, and the graphics, but the gameplay seemed seriously flawed to me.

[CartoonSage]

:eek: :eek:
At first the character designs really turned me off. I don't like heavily chibi-ized 3D designs in games when they can clearly look better proportioned, which is why I'm having a hard time playing Radiata Story (although it's turning out to be pretty funny).

WOW!! someone else in the world is playing Radiata Stories!! :eek:

...anyway, mark me down for Halo 1 and 2.

[Mog]

Halo 1/ Halo 2 by far. Not a fan of the Madden series and I can't stand baseball games anymore past Ken Griffey on the SNES.

Two I wouldn't really say that I "hate," but did not live up to the hype in my eyes:
Dark Cloud 2
Jak II

[Tanooki]

pikmin. could just never get into it

[chris3116]

Pokemon
Star Fox
Any Mario Spin-off like Mario Tennis or Mario Golf.
GTA (or any of its clones)
Gran Turismo
Metal Gear Solid
Gears of War
Halo

[Eddy]

Oh yes, I also forgot to mention Grand Theft Auto, Halo, Ecco the Dolphin, and Mortal Kombat.

[Mynd Hed]

Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution
I guess it's supposed to be a really "deep" fighter if you play it long enough to get good, but I just can't get past how stiffly the characters move. Note to game makers: "hardcore" games are great, but you've got to give the beginning player something to intrigue them if you want them to stick with it long enough to enjoy all the advanced stuff. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be over here with Soul Calibur.

Mario Golf
Or for that matter, any golf game EVER. No amount of window dressing can disguise the fact that it's the same "hit the button at the right spot on the meter" gameplay that you could "enjoy" on Windows 3.1.
Wii Sports Golf almost solved this problem with its motion controls, but a lack of sensitivity to subtle movements makes putting unreasonably difficult.

Tomb Raider
Oh, God, the camera. The terrible, terrible, nausea-inducing camera. Why did this P.O.S. ever get any sequels again?

Resident Evil
I get what they were going for with this game, the faux-B-horror-flick atmosphere and all that, but what were they THINKING with the controls? Essentially unplayable. Never cared for RE4 either, for that matter.

[Classic Speedy]

Tomb Raider
Oh, God, the camera. The terrible, terrible, nausea-inducing camera. Why did this P.O.S. ever get any sequels again? Have you played Tomb Raider Legend? It kicks the crap out of all the previous Tomb Raider games. Its camera system is FAR better, for one thing.

[.Automatisch]

Gears of War's multiplayer - everyone seems to think it's just so wonderful, but I think it's absolutely terrible. The weapons are horribly unbalanced, and nearly everything you do, you end up fighting against the controls. The A button does too many damn things and if I'm not getting killed because of weapons issues, then I'm getting killed because I either got sucked into cover when I didn't want to be, or because I rolled when I wanted to cover. Honestly, most of the controls are just plain stupid. When games like GRAW and Rainbow Six have the cover system down so well, there is just no excuse for a game with such poor controls as Gears of War. It is so very rare that I kill or get killed and feel like it wasn't just dumb luck that the controls just happened to cooperate for me. And yet, everyone praises Gears as the next Halo in-terms of multiplayer. Bleh.


Gears is one of my favorite games I've played in the last few years, but the online multiplayer is the worst garbage I've seen that was hailed as "amazing" since Halo 2... It has crappy weapon balance, no strategy, a total lack of gametypes, and the cover, as well as the controls, get in your way a great deal. I think the maps are weak, the weapons are bland and need balancing, and the game is just really not that great online at all. I play A LOT of PC games; mainly FPS... Stuff like this would have been fixed much faster if Gears had been made for the PC due to the constant *****ing the community does on the company's forums, as well as fan ones...

And while Epic's Gears' forums have a decent amount of complaints, no one really identifies the key fundamental problems of the game, and when someone vaguely talks about something like weapon balance, they do nothing to really elaborate on it... The reason why leagues aren't picking Gears up as a viable option for ladders/tourneys is because it basically needs fixing in most of these important areas, and Epic has really done nothing to actually look into it... Mark Rein is arrogant as hell, and keeps saying Gears is "fine as is", when that's a huge lie. He and Bleszinski are so enamored with their own game that they seem to look past any huge faults it has... They refuse to acknowledge that it needs fixing.

[Punisher]

Wow, I never realized so many people hated the multiplayer of Gears of War. I have no problems with it, aside from the usual "he stuck to the wall when I meant to dive", but that doesn't happen often enough for it to be a serious issue. And what crappy weapon balance? The explosive weapons(Boomshot and Torque Bow) are too inaccurate to be broken, and while people can and will abuse the chainsaw, I like to shoot them once or twice with the Lancer while they're charging me, and then chainsaw them while they're stunned. I don't know what the huge complaint is. Gears has the best multiplayer on the 360.

I guess I'll have to keep this thread on topic, so I'll guy with Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes. While the cutscenes were fantastic and all that, I'd rather not spend so much time watching and get to actually playing.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

The Halo franchise is very, very overrated in my opinion.

[Dudley]

I've seen FF 7 be played, and it doesn't seem like the kind of thing I enjoy.


The Halo franchise is very, very overrated in my opinion.
I know. Everyone asks me if I have it, simply becasue I have an XBox. I don't like shooting, simulated racing games (GT seires), RPGs (KH and Paper Mario being exceptions), and the Zelda series.

[Leviathan]

I really don't hate any game thats considered "great" that I've played, but Super Mario Sunshine just didn't send me.

[Tapout]

I'll jump aboard the "too realistic to be any fun" bandwagon, specifically war games, more specifically WWII games. Call of Duty 3 is essentially unplayable with everything coming from everywhere all the time.

[MM54]

Metroid Prime. Oh my God. I find very little redeemable about the game, much less anything that would boost it to the level of one of the greatest games ever made. The controls are horrendous, regardless of whether you can "Get used to it" or not, rendering the game virtually unplayable.

God of War. Not badly designed in any way...but all and all unspectacualar. It gets very repetitive, even when using the more complicated combo moves. I never saw what was so amazing about this game.

Killzone. Never really critically acclaimed, but I know several people who really enjoy this game. The controls are extremely difficult to get down, as with most FPS games on the PS2.

Final Fantasy 8 thru X-2. No one else got sick of the turn-based combat system that NEVER changed? After it was perfected with VII, these games became very "same-ish". I didn't like XI's MMO combat system either, but I love XII's.

[Captain Highwind]

I'm not really feelin' the Smash Bros. love

or the Mario Party series. (I thought the first one was enough on N64)

[Wussycat]

All this blasphemy against Kingdom Hearts and Smash Bros. saddens me. :(

[Vermunium]

Halo series
Devil May Cry series
Kingdom Hearts

[Vermunium]

Final Fantasy 8 thru X-2. No one else got sick of the turn-based combat system that NEVER changed? After it was perfected with VII, these games became very "same-ish". I didn't like XI's MMO combat system either, but I love XII's.

You're kidding me, right? FFVII was probably the worst I've played out of all of them, FFVIII was way better than FFVII could ever hope to be.

[Captain Highwind]

You're kidding me, right? FFVII was probably the worst I've played out of all of them, FFVIII was way better than FFVII could ever hope to be.

...

I'm getting conflicting reports here.

[Tanooki]

i honestly thought the first one had the best battle system

*ding!* my turn! ok... you attack this guy. you attack this other guy. you use LIT on both of them and then you heal this guy. go!

[Chad Bonin]

Halo, Kingdom Hearts, and Final Fantasy 7-on.

[Captain Highwind]

i honestly thought the first one had the best battle system

*ding!* my turn! ok... you attack this guy. you attack this other guy. you use LIT on both of them and then you heal this guy. go!

Except you can only buy 3 of the 4 magics at shops.

[Mikintosh]

Mario Golf
Or for that matter, any golf game EVER. No amount of window dressing can disguise the fact that it's the same "hit the button at the right spot on the meter" gameplay that you could "enjoy" on Windows 3.1.
Wii Sports Golf almost solved this problem with its motion controls, but a lack of sensitivity to subtle movements makes putting unreasonably difficult.

See, even though this kind of goes against what I was saying about baseball games not feeling real, and I don't like the game of golf itself, I like Mario Golf & Hot Shots Golf. The unrealistic bar system's fine, 'cause I got used to it in FujiGolf for Windows, and the really charming visuals win me over. Hate the Tiger Woods series 'cause you kinda lose that personality.

[Captain Highwind]

See, even though this kind of goes against what I was saying about baseball games not feeling real, and I don't like the game of golf itself, I like Mario Golf & Hot Shots Golf. The unrealistic bar system's fine, 'cause I got used to it in FujiGolf for Windows, and the really charming visuals win me over. Hate the Tiger Woods series 'cause you kinda lose that personality.

I say we scrap it all and remake Ninja Golf.

[straw_hat]

Tetris- I'll never understand how this utterly dull game ever got to be so big.

[RSNaco]

For me, this spot belongs to Shadow of the Colossus. I don't see how a game where the ONLY things to kill are things that make you seem like an ant in comparison, especially with what 'brilliant' weaponry you get. Oh, wait. It's just a lousy sword and a bow-and-arrow set. Plus, quite frankly, the game has always looked bland to me.

[Classic Speedy]

Tetris- I'll never understand how this utterly dull game ever got to be so big. Well then, let me give you reasons why -I- like it (and I'm sure millions of others):
-The gameplay is different every time you play it
-It provides a challenge for both newbies and veterans alike
-The simplicity of the concept underlies the large amount of ways the blocks can be sorted
-The classical music
-A fun two player mode

Whether you -choose- to accept that people like the game for those reasons, and possibly others, is up to you.

[SirLemming]

You're kidding me, right? FFVII was probably the worst I've played out of all of them, FFVIII was way better than FFVII could ever hope to be.

Are you really that surprised? Most of the known world disagrees with you.

[Vermunium]

Are you really that surprised? Most of the known world disagrees with you.

I realize that, but it still doesn't change my stance on it. I just get bugged when I hear people rant on how good it is in a fanboyish manner.

[Vermunium]

...

I'm getting conflicting reports here.

Don't get me wrong, probably the only thing I liked about FFVII was Cid Highwind, he was one cool dude. He was the only redeeming factor of the game for me.

[Mikintosh]

I realize that, but it still doesn't change my stance on it. I just get bugged when I hear people rant on how good it is in a fanboyish manner.

I think that's because it's known as one of the more iconic, character-driven FFs (no Mage or Thief), so it probably appealed to the anime/fanboy crowd more then the others. The play mechanics didn't change all that much for the first ten installments, so the story gets magnified.

[Demonic Raven]

Metal Gear Solid and Splinter Cell. Stealth just isn't my thing. If you have guns, why not run right in and raise some hell? And now you know why I loved Resident Evil 4. :sweat:

Pikmin. Good game, I just couldn't quite get into it.

[Frank Castle]

Metal Gear Solid and Splinter Cell. Stealth just isn't my thing. If you have guns, why not run right in and raise some hell?

Because in those games if you get outnumbered in a firefight, you'll lose.

[Noukon]

Halo.

I've been meaning to give it a second chance, though.

[Kryten]

Boktai. What could be more fun than dragging a coffin through a long dungeon while unable to defend yourself from the monsters (which by the way, even if you drop the coffin and try to attack them, can't be killed, only stunned). How about, oh, I dunno, anthing?

[Captain Highwind]

Boktai. What could be more fun than dragging a coffin through a long dungeon while unable to defend yourself from the monsters (which by the way, even if you drop the coffin and try to attack them, can't be killed, only stunned). How about, oh, I dunno, anthing?

That and Golden Sun. I don't see the big deal, unless it's the fact that these were of the few RPGS to make it to the GB Advance at the time.

[FireWarrior]

The Halo series and Splinter Cell series. Never really got into the whole thing about those games. Virtua Fighter is also another one that I don't like at all. I mean what's so great about the fighting anyway? I'd much prefer Tekken over that piece of garbage.

And while I don't hate it, but I found Goldeneye 007 vastly overrated. I mean it's a good game and I'm glad to own it, but like someone mentioned before it was just simply the first big 4 player multiplayer game on the console. Other than that, it's pretty basic with more advanced FPS' coming out today.

[Captain Highwind]

Virtua Fighter is also another one that I don't like at all. I mean what's so great about the fighting anyway? I'd much prefer Tekken over that piece of garbage.

I think if VF would just work on their controls, i.e. focus on movements that are easy to adapt to instead of having to memorize complicated button sequences (for the most basic movements no less), then it would actually be more fun to play. In VF4:Evolution, I've barely put any time into actually fighting, with most of it spent in training sessions; while I've already beaten several games of Tekken 4, so that should say something right there.

[WolfieKiwi]

Metroid. Any metroid game before Prime and Echoes.

[Captain Highwind]

Metroid. Any metroid game before Prime and Echoes.

Really?

I enjoyed Super Metroid much more than Prime (I never finished Prime II.)

The first Metroid suffered from repetitous landscaping that turned me off even back in the day. That I agree on.

[danreyes1]

Two words: Final Fantasy. I keep losing track of just -why- I'm on this grand adventure. And I -HATE- random battles. The only FF game i've truly enjoyed is Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

[Desensitized]

Final Fantasy 8 and 10 are the only games in the series I have ever played that I just got bored of a few hours in. I have yet to play any Final Fantasy after 10 because of it.

Halo 1 to me is not as fun as the sequel in any way.

I actually thought GTAIII deserved the hype it got, and I enjoyed it, but the sequels were just rehashes with slight improvements.

Super Mario 64. I'm a GIANT Mario fan, Mario 3 is one of my top games of all time and I actually LIKE this game.... But after the first 8 or so levels, it just doesn't draw me in anymore.

Mario Kart 64 is so boring compared to what came later, and even what came before. I really believe it's the weakest in the series.

I also second whoever said Gran Turismo. Talk about dull. I don't like racer's too much, but that game was definately the most overrated one.

[Shawn Hopkins]

Virtua Fighter is also another one that I don't like at all. I mean what's so great about the fighting anyway? I'd much prefer Tekken over that piece of garbage.


And they would call him, "Noob" and "Button Masher" and he would be derided across the Internet by the hardcore fighting game fans.

I bet you're an Eddie Goro player, too.

Seriously though, Virtua Fighter can be tough to adapt to, and a little unforgiving. I still think it's a brilliant game because, once you master it, it gives you many more strategic options for asskicking than other games. That's my opinion of "what's so great about the fighting."

But it's not always what I'm in the mood for. My favorite game with VF characters is actually Virtua Fighter's Megamix for the Saturn, both because of the character overload and the fact that you can play Fighting Vipers style if you wish.

[.Automatisch]

And they would call him, "Noob" and "Button Masher" and he would be derided across the Internet by the hardcore fighting game fans.

I bet you're an Eddie Goro player, too.

Seriously though, Virtua Fighter can be tough to adapt to, and a little unforgiving. I still think it's a brilliant game because, once you master it, it gives you many more strategic options for asskicking than other games. That's my opinion of "what's so great about the fighting."

But it's not always what I'm in the mood for. My favorite game with VF characters is actually Virtua Fighter's Megamix for the Saturn, both because of the character overload and the fact that you can play Fighting Vipers style if you wish.

Well, you can look at it this way... DOA is a Tekken rip-off, which is a Virtua Fighter rip-off... So we've gone full circle in that regard.

Anyways, Tekken isn't nearly as deep as VF, and the only reason people hate it is because they don't think it's as engaging as other flash 3D fighters, when in fact the sheer amount of it will envelop your soul if you ever try to master the game. There's a reason why VF has always been considered the best 3D fighter series of all time, much like how SF2 will always be the best 2D fighter series of all time

[.Automatisch]

Metroid. Any metroid game before Prime and Echoes.

I can't stand the Prime series... I much prefer stuff like Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion to the 3D games. Perhaps we'll get a mix of the older style with a sidescroller that has some Prime updates in a new Metroid game down the line.

[Demonic Raven]

I liked Metroid Prime to an extent, just not enough to actually finish the game.

I didn't really get into Prime 2 though. I barely got anywhere in that game, and it was way overhyped at the time if anyone remembers. It got Twilight Princess levels of hype and it didn't really deserve it. Or maybe I just read IGN too much for my own good....

[Tanooki]

I liked Metroid Prime to an extent, just not enough to actually finish the game.

I didn't really get into Prime 2 though. I barely got anywhere in that game, and it was way overhyped at the time if anyone remembers. It got Twilight Princess levels of hype and it didn't really deserve it. Or maybe I just read IGN too much for my own good....
yeah, i liked both, but prime 1 diffenently trumped it's sequel

[Punisher]

yeah, i liked both, but prime 1 diffenently trumped it's sequelAlthough I agree that I had more fun playing the first, if you think about, Prime 2 was much better. It had a deeper story(the begining was awesome with the Resident Evil vibe), harder difficulty, it was much longer, and it had relatively fun multiplayer. I mean, the first was awesome because nobdoy expected it to be awesome. With Echoes, we got more of the same, which wasn't a bad thing, we had just done it before. We expected it to be a solid game, which it was.

Still, both games are among the best on gamecube and I can't believe people call them overrated. They don't control like an FPS because they aren't an FPS. It's that simple. And the story is in the scans, that's another thing that bothers me. Just because the game doesn't have lengthy cutscenes with bad voice acting doesn't mean it has no story. Yeesh.

Edit: Nobody's answered my question as to why Gears of War's multiplayer sucked.

[James Bester]

I have another one to list. The entire Halo series. I'm surprised we've had more complaints about Gears of War than Halo. I'll really never understand the hype with this game. Halo just seems like an average FPS to me. And the online play isn't as great as people make it out to be. Half of the games are screwed up by mods and idiots who use stand-by constantly to piss people off. Seriously, I just see nothing in this game that makes it unique enough to be a classic. The sad thing is that billions of people will play this game online for over 10 hours a day. I'm usually bored out of my mind after less than 30 minutes pass by.

[HEATXZ]

I hate all Pokemon games but Super Smash bros doesn't count

[Juu-kuchi]

Oh yeah.

LoZ: Twilight Princess. I love it, yet hate it at the same time, because it felt that Nintendo could've gone the extra extra mile for this game, but just went the extra mile instead. It just REEKS of unneeded archaic elements.

[Mynd Hed]

I hate all Pokemon games but Super Smash bros doesn't count

I've only ever played Pokemon Red/Blue (I forget which one I had; the original, in either case), and yeah, I hated it. An RPG with no plot full of mindless level grinding, with only one party member controllable at a time in battle, and in which several of your "player characters" (although to use the word "character" to describe those mute little Hello Kitty rejects might be overstatement) start out without any ATTACKS, for cripes' sake? Gee, sign me up. [/sarcasm]

But I don't know if that really counts for this thread, insofar as I've never really known anyone to try to make a serious case for it as a "great" game.

[Eddy]

I don't care much for sports games in general. Realistic ones, at least.

I love Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Wii Sports, and such.

[Slipperman]

Halo 2 and all the sports games in general.

Tim (aka the Slipperman)

[Sonics020]

1.) Halo 2, because there's nothing about it that's particularly interesting that can't be found done better elsewhere.

2.) Gran Turismo, because GAMES are made to be FUN, not realistic. If you want realism, try life. It's free.

You took the words right out of my mouth i never liked either of those games.

[Hanshotfirst113]

A "venting" thread, I see ;).

[FireWarrior]

And they would call him, "Noob" and "Button Masher" and he would be derided across the Internet by the hardcore fighting game fans.

I bet you're an Eddie Goro player, too.

Seriously though, Virtua Fighter can be tough to adapt to, and a little unforgiving. I still think it's a brilliant game because, once you master it, it gives you many more strategic options for asskicking than other games. That's my opinion of "what's so great about the fighting."

But it's not always what I'm in the mood for. My favorite game with VF characters is actually Virtua Fighter's Megamix for the Saturn, both because of the character overload and the fact that you can play Fighting Vipers style if you wish.

Not an Eddie Gordo player, and no I'm not a noob either. I just don't like having to input complex combinations to execute moves. Sure I don't mind a couple of buttons, maybe a twist of the joystick here and there but that's it, no need to get more complicated than that. I mean I like depth in fighting games, I really do but I think that Virtua Fighter could a little be more player friendly that's all.

[kaseykockroach]

Final Fantasy X. The combat is extremely boring, some of the lines are very sappy and Tidus is the most annoying video game character ever.

[RedNinja84]

Final Fantasy X. The combat is extremely boring, some of the lines are very sappy and Tidus is the most annoying video game character ever.

Amen brother, it's the most boring game I have ever played.

[Tash]

Either Nintendo 64 Zelda game. I love every other entry into the series, except for those two. They were just too dark for my taste. I loved TP, though, because it didn't take itself nearly as seriously.

[Mikintosh]

Either Nintendo 64 Zelda game. I love every other entry into the series, except for those two. They were just too dark for my taste. I loved TP, though, because it didn't take itself nearly as seriously.

Conversely, I'm not much of a fan of any of the 2D Zeldas (tho Four Swords Adventure was fun). I grew up on Ocarina, so the original S/NES games don't seem all that recognizable. And much harder than they needed to be.

Storywise, you may be right, but Nintendo doesn't do dark stuff that often, so I dug it.

[EscaflownePilot]

Still, both games are among the best on gamecube and I can't believe people call them overrated. They don't control like an FPS because they aren't an FPS. It's that simple. And the story is in the scans, that's another thing that bothers me. Just because the game doesn't have lengthy cutscenes with bad voice acting doesn't mean it has no story. Yeesh.I agree. I've loved both Metroid Prime games - I think they are excellent examples of what could be done with the first-person genre if developers and gamers had more open minds about bending the conventions of the genre. But, nope, people like their Halos, and heaven forbid if they can't play this game the same way they would play Halo, then the controls are somehow broken and can't ever be gotten used to. The games were great and involving in both gameplay and graphics, and having the story told through the scans felt more natural and interactive than sitting and watching cutscene after cutscene.



Edit: Nobody's answered my question as to why Gears of War's multiplayer sucked.The poor weapon balance, as I mentioned, is one. The explosive weapons are a little overkill, but as you said not accurate enough to make too much of a difference. But the shotgun is terrible - I swear, one step can literally make the difference between "so far away you barely damage the guy" and "so close that you kill him with one shot", making shotgun fights so painfully frustrating, because there can be no strategy there. What's also frustrating is how little you get in added accuracy when switching from just shooting to zooming in/aiming. That, and the damn chainsaw is far too easy to abuse - even close by, the assault rifle rarely lands a hit on the guy in time to stop the chainsaw, making chainsaw deaths far too plentiful, and also turns fights into a numbers game - whereas most games, one or two skilled people can take on a group of others, this game skill isn't a part of it - all it takes is for one person to fire and the other to chainsaw, and that's the end of it. It is WAY too powerful of a melee to be included on one of the default weapons.

But all of that could even be overlooked if it wasn't a constant battle with the controls. I know there are some people like yourself who have no issues with them, but for me no matter how much I practice, I'm always fighting against the controls. When I run, it's a constant struggle to dodge everything that I might get sucked into, and if I'm running from an enemy and get sucked into cover (which happens ALL THE TIME) then that spells certain death for me. If I mean to cover but instead dive in front of an enemy, that usually means certain death. And if I cover instead of diving, it often means missing a great opportunity to flank someone. And even in cover, it's often a battle to get the guy to pull out of cover, pop up out of cover, or run to the next piece to cover behind, and again, screwing it up usually means certain death by no fault of my own. There is just no excuse for this cover system when other games have gotten it down so well.

[Tay the Cat]

Sorry, but I must defend Gran Turismo.

Racing games are supposed to be as realistic as possible. There are too many terrible racing games out there simply because they're too arcade-like. Thankfully there's Gran Turismo to remedy this problem.

[Mynd Hed]

Racing games are supposed to be as realistic as possible. There are too many terrible racing games out there simply because they're too arcade-like. Thankfully there's Gran Turismo to remedy this problem.

Now that's just ridiculous. Realistic racing games are fine for those who are really into cars and want something that actually simulates them, but criticizing arcade racers for being unrealistic is like panning Street Fighter because the characters can jump twice their height and shoot fireballs.

Personally, I'd put just as about every well-regarded simulation-type racing game I've ever tried in the "'great' games I hate" category. Screw realism, I want FUN, and that means I'm not interested in a racer in which I can't shoot missiles (or turtle shells, whatever) or cause my opponents to explode in new and interesting ways. That doesn't make realistic racers bad, mind you-- I just have no interest in them.

[Riku]

Final Fantasy VI. The FF most fans of the series point to as being superior to the post-VII era(s), I call extremely annoying. Some of the scenarios/setups/gameplay situation (what have you) is very irritating.

Aw, I think Tidus is the only FF main character (male or female) I didn't hate. Wakka on the other hand...

[Tay the Cat]

^^ Point taken.

Come to think of it, I did like Ridge Racer and RoadBlasters... but that's about it in terms of arcade racers.

[Captain Highwind]

and Tidus is the most annoying video game character ever.

Agreed.

Seymour: "Be quiet boy."

Tidus: "Make me!"

Y'know, he really should've. -_-;

[MattThomasM2B]

Anything that has the name "Tom Clancy" in it's title.

Beautiful, system pushing graphics....that cover up unforgiving, trial and error-athon gameplay.

[Shawn Hopkins]

My problem with Gran Turismo, last I played was three, is that the other cars follow perfect race lines like they're stuck to them by magnets. That's not realistic at all. Real human drivers would show some agression or make mistakes.

[ChuckRoast]

Any realistic sport game: I was seriously going to fall asleep one time playing football multiplayer. But I'll play Mario Tennis anyday of the week!
Tomb Raider: From the moment I died in a spike pit at the beginning of TR3, I knew I was going to hate this series. I never played Legend, but I heard it was good.
Any racing sim: Realistic games of boring to me. Plan and simple.

[Obi]

Gta.