C&C - Bleach - "Enter! The World of the Shinigami" [2/10]

[Zach Logan]

The Soul Society Arc begins today and ends in 42 episodes.

It'll be good, don't worry.

[Rolling Cloud]

43-episodes? I... can deal with that.

[shoujoaifan]

Rock and roll. It'll be a pain in the ass to wait a week per episode, but otherwise I got no problem, I can dig long arcs.

Speaking of which, its often for this reason called the "Namek" arc of Bleach. Does it also get slow like in Namek, like stretching out any material, or is it just because its a long set of episodes?

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Rock and roll. It'll be a pain in the ass to wait a week per episode, but otherwise I got no problem, I can dig long arcs.

Speaking of which, its often for this reason called the "Namek" arc of Bleach. Does it also get slow like in Namek, like stretching out any material, or is it just because its a long set of episodes?

It's nothing like Namek at all. It's very fast paced. Only bitter people call it 'Namek'.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

It's nothing like Namek at all. It's very fast paced. Only bitter people call it 'Namek'.


I was going to say the same thing. Its deffinatly no Namek unless you count fighting.

[Space Cadet]

It's nothing like Namek at all. It's very fast paced. Only bitter people call it 'Namek'.

Is it more like the Dark Tournament saga in YYH? That one was 40 episodes long, but was paced very smoothly.

[Zach Logan]

Is it more like the Dark Tournament saga in YYH? That one was 40 episodes long, but was paced very smoothly.
I'd say it's paced similarly if not even better. The fights in this arc are good and long enough for you to enjoy them, but aren't stretched out long enough that you get annoyed at it. The plot is also much more convoluted than the Namek Saga, and doesn't have transformation after transformation after transformation of two characters. You're going to meet a LOT of new people very soon.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I'd say it's paced similarly if not even better. The fights in this arc are good and long enough for you to enjoy them, but aren't stretched out long enough that you get annoyed at it. The plot is also much more convoluted than the Namek Saga, and doesn't have transformation after transformation after transformation of two characters. You're going to meet a LOT of new people very soon.


Meeting the new people is the best part. Shows like Bleach and Naruto are so wondeful because of how many diverse characters there are.
Namek, despite my love fro DBZ, was just so annoying. I willl never look at regenerating 5,000 form bad guys again in my life.

[Beat]

That's officially the worst Red Alert ever. It needs more lights and people with guns running towards the wall.

EDIT- This is the part where a bunch of nameless henchmen charge forward shouting "COOOBRRAA!"

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Ishida has a spare cape! A spare cape!

Why did they change 'Rukongai' to 'Rukon'.

Then they left 'Seireitei' rather than chaning it to 'Court of Pure Souls'.

[Captain Highwind]

Well there's 69, or whatever his real name is.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well there's 69, or whatever his name is.

Hisagi

His voice sounds alright.

[Kitschensyngk]

The Soul Society Arc begins today and ends in 42 episodes.

It'll be good, don't worry.

[sigh] This is what I hate about longer series...long story arcs that take almost a year to finish depending on how frequent the episodes come. Hopefully this won't be like Inuyasha and start to teeter between good and dull.

And right out the gate Orihime proves her worth.

At least this big guy's a gentleman...maybe "idiot savant".

Figures. The axes break the day after the warranty expires.

I do believe our gatekeeper is finally becoming a man.

[v1cious]

Yoruichi hitting Orihime still makes me laugh.


I'd say it's paced similarly if not even better. The fights in this arc are good and long enough for you to enjoy them, but aren't stretched out long enough that you get annoyed at it. The plot is also much more convoluted than the Namek Saga, and doesn't have transformation after transformation after transformation of two characters. You're going to meet a LOT of new people very soon.

so what do you call Ban Kai?

[Captain Highwind]

Yoruichi hitting Orihime still makes me laugh.




And Orihime sounded so cute :anime:

[Classic Speedy]

Holy crap, this guy is frickin' HUGE. That shot where he's facing Bleach... wow. It's like David and Goliath.

[livingfruitvirus]

The scouter says Ichigo's power level is over 9000!

[Captain Highwind]

*Spooky tik-a-tik music*

Aw snap! It's Gin! :eek:

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Uh oh. Ichimaru is here. And he looks none too pleased.

Next week, the craziness begins.

[Ahiru-kun]

This show already has too many characters. I don't want to have to memorize the names of more.

Number One Guardian. Someone has a high opinion of themself.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

This show already has too many characters. I don't want to have to memorize the names of more.

Number One Guardian. Someone has a high opinion of themself.

Well we're about to get 30 new characters over the next few episodes.

[Captain Highwind]

Number One Guardian. Someone has a high opinion of themself.

It wasn't his fault he was named that.

[purplehairedwonder]

lol @ Ishida's spare cape.

lol @ the Gatekeeper crying when Ichigo broke his axes.

lol @ Ishida being mad that Ichigo is considered their leader.

Mostly a silly episode, though Ichigo drastically improved and problems seem to be on the horizon.

[Beat]

Well we're about to get 30 new characters over the next few episodes.

So it won't be like Yu Yu where evil characters get introduced and are then killed off in rapid succession? Aww...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Nice designs in this episode. That made Hime extra kawaii.

Good voice for the gate keeper and Hisagi.

TV-PG-V? Hah, Prince of Tennis had more violence tonight. This could have been uncut with Y7-FV. Great action though.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

So it won't be like Yu Yu where evil characters get introduced and are then killed off in rapid succession? Aww...

Well, as you've already seen, Soul Society isn't evil, just has some evil or misguided people in it.

It's kind of like Skypiea in that regard.

[Ahiru-kun]

Thirty new characters? Thank god for Wikipedia.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

woo Gin. Such a sinister smile! *drool*

Anyways, yes yes good episode.

and wee for _______. Or, i guess 69 as every one is calling him. (Since his name isnt released i suppose its considered a spoiler) Whole things kinda ironic because i was on Wikipedia today reading some info and trying to fiigure out what episode he appeared in since my memory sucks and i couldnt remember. Lucky for me it was tonights. :P

[TnAdct1]

Next week, the craziness begins. ...and the week after that, the "AMV Hell 3" episode. :D

[XOMiss_Samantha]

...and the week after that, the "AMV Hell 3" episode. :D


hahahahahaa
I remember that. So funny. Thats what I love about Bleach. It's serious and funny all at the same time.

[Baseball]

Why did they change 'Rukongai' to 'Rukon'.
"Gai" apparently means "district." So it's the Rukon District.

Great episode. Old 69-face has a good voice, and everything else seemed fine.

[Hyper Shadow X]

Only two more weeks till 23 which I'm looking forqward to seeing again.

[PickHut]

Pretty good episode, though, it was surprisingly goofy. But, that was part of what made the episode as entertaining as it was.

[Master Moron]

This show already has too many characters. I don't want to have to memorize the names of more.

Number One Guardian. Someone has a high opinion of themself.

Why bother memorizing names? Just refer to them as "the spiky haired kid," "the big boobed girl," "the guy with glasses," "the guy with the tattoo," and "the talking cat."

[Captain Highwind]

Why bother memorizing names? Just refer to them as "the spiky haired kid," "the big boobed girl," "the guy with glasses," "the guy with the tattoo," and "the talking cat."

Alot of people are tattooed in this show. You can't really use sideburns either.

But yeah, that's what I do. People always know what you're talking about and even give you the correct name.

[Game Freak 4]

Why bother memorizing names? Just refer to them as "the spiky haired kid," "the big boobed girl," "the guy with glasses," "the guy with the tattoo," and "the talking cat."
That sounds pretty stupid.

[Master Moron]

That sounds pretty stupid.

You should hear my names for the DICE characters.

[Captain Highwind]

That sounds pretty stupid.

But it works.

[Anyone00]

Ah, they changed the 'This guys a freak.' reaction to 'He has an extra cape?' reaction.

[Riza Hawkeye]

I never understood why the Soul Society Arc gets compared to the Namek by people. SS flowed really well to me, unlike Namek, which seemed to drag on for so long.

As for the episode, Ishida having another cape is great. And my favorite part was Ichigo showing his improvement when fighting Jidanbō.

By the end of SS I didn't have any trouble with the character's names, at the very least, the captians and lieutenants (26 charactes) are fairly easy to remember. The personalities of some of them make them hard to forget...

[email2003]

I guess some animes have to have thier long arcs.


Inuyasha - Band of Seven/Mt. "whatever" arc
DragonBall Z - Namek/Frieza arc
Yu Yu Hakusho - Dark Torunament arc
and lets not forget


Naruto - Chunin Exam arc

[RomanMack]

Also...

One Piece - Alabasta arc

Yu-Gi-Oh - Battle City arc

Zatch Bell - Zophis arc

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Also...

One Piece - Alabasta arc

But there are already two arcs longer than Arabasta.

[Lighthammer]

I never understood why the Soul Society Arc gets compared to the Namek by people. SS flowed really well to me, unlike Namek, which seemed to drag on for so long.

<sigh>

Lets not forget the Namek saga was always intended to be the LAST ARCH of the series. It was meant to be builttotally the premise that they were building and building and building to an ultimate finally.

Archs seem less 'archy' when people view them over the course of the year instead of cramming 10 episodes into 5 days. Yea, all of us want to see the next installment of any really good series in the worst way, but waiting is actually what can make the episodes and more over the series even more enjoyable.

Without throwing too many spoilers in, the SS Arch feels weird because of all the strides in power you see between episodes but when you have to wait a week to see the next one, it feels like the recovery time was longer thus the power jumps more reasonable even though its in reality, just the next episode.

[Duke]

Now THAT was a good episode! Things were evenly paced, the anime writers kept in the various comedic bits (i.e. Orihime commenting on Ichigo's landing position, Uryu's extra cape, Jidanbo's quirks), and the episode itself was fun too.

Only nitpick is that Uryu didn't get hit with the rock. :( But the way Orihime was drawn after the gang exited the tunnel made up for it.

Dammit, why couldn't previous episodes have been like this?


Then they left 'Seireitei' rather than chaning it to 'Court of Pure Souls'.
Seireitei was left as-is in the manga, too. Hell, I don't think the English manga ever calls it "Court of Pure Souls."

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Seireitei was left as-is in the manga, too. Hell, I don't think the English manga ever calls it "Court of Pure Souls."

Yeah, but it sounds weird. I mean they change "Shinigami" to "Soul Reaper" yet they leave Seireitei in? I don't get the translations with Bleach.

[Captain Highwind]

Yeah, but it sounds weird. I mean they change "Shinigami" to "Soul Reaper" yet they leave Seireitei in? I don't get the translations with Bleach.

Lethality Stone. That has about fifty billion translations.

[RomanMack]

But there are already two arcs longer than Arabasta.Well, yeah, I guess that honor goes to either Skypeia or Water 7. But Alabasta is the first huge arc in One Piece.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I just got done watching a bunch of shinigami cups and its a shame [adultswim] doesn't show them. Those things are so hilarious!!
Think they'll put them on the DVDS?

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I'm pretty sure Viz wont drop the ball there. They dubbed the introduction to them starting (as we heard in an episode on Adult Swim). If they do drop the ball then it was Viz's choice. I don't imagine they would though. Not when they're trying so hard to appease the fans with Bleach's release (among other Shonen Jump series).

I'm somewhat glad they dont' show them though. Because it would make Bleach even more childish to include them. Shades of the Jr. Detective League are still coming though. I look forward to the reaction of the casual viewers. :p

[Sparticus]

I'm pretty sure Viz wont drop the ball there. They dubbed the introduction to them starting (as we heard in an episode on Adult Swim). If they do drop the ball then it was Viz's choice. I don't imagine they would though. Not when they're trying so hard to appease the fans with Bleach's release (among other Shonen Jump series).

I'm somewhat glad they dont' show them though. Because it would make Bleach even more childish to include them. Shades of the Jr. Detective League are still coming though. I look forward to the reaction of the casual viewers. :p

... but... but... but... they're hilarious.... and Bleach IS very funny... :crying:

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Funny HA HA or funny strange? :anime:

[silvanoir]

Oh, Uryuu is so dweeby its adorable. between not being able to run and needing to be carried, and then having a spare cape. He gets to be my new icon now.

Ichigo whining about how he's not cute was actually cute. :p and wow, he got crazy powerful fast.

Orihime is pretty powerful too for a clueless curvy girl (in a defense way). Though I dont agree with her about their landings being "artistic" heheh.

The big guard was kind of weird. I guess the old "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" saying applies.

The guy with the grin creeps me out... no one's mouth should stretch that far.

[Rolling Cloud]

Funny HA HA or funny strange? :anime:

Both! :anime:

[Zach Logan]

I guess some animes have to have thier long arcs.

Inuyasha - Band of Seven/Mt. "whatever" arc
DragonBall Z - Namek/Frieza arc
Yu Yu Hakusho - Dark Torunament arcand lets not forget

Naruto - Chunin Exam arc
Some people also split this arc up in two, which is somewhat appropriate...
The Second Arc: ep 21-41
The Third Arc: ep 42-63
also known as:

The Soul Society Entry Arc: ep 21-41 ending with the first confrontation
The Soul Society Rescue Arc: ep 42-63 beginning with the training for BanKai and ending with...well you know

[Malex]

Some people also split this arc up in two, which is somewhat appropriate...
The Second Arc: ep 21-41
The Third Arc: ep 42-63


I really don't understand why people always try to divide long arcs in shounen anime. Just because we get a new subplot we are not watching a different arc if the ultimate plot is still not finished. People do it with Naruto, DBZ, and other series. It's just silly like calling Shinigami Zukan "-insert word- cup."

Well, the episode was good. Jidanbou was just like I envisioned, country bumpkins. I got a laugh at the rules of the city, but I thought there was third one. I'll check that out later.

I surprised no one on this thread has called Gin "fox-face." That was the first thing I noticed the first time I saw him last episode. Oh well, hopefully Team Kurosaki will make it out alive from this confrontation with the 3rd squad captain. Maybe someone will be "shot down" or "impaled." We'll see next episode.

[Lighthammer]

Ichigo whining about how he's not cute was actually cute. :p and wow, he got crazy powerful fast.


Ichigo's power Progression in Soul Society.

If you think thats "wow", wait till you see how fast he advances later. His power increases almost make it look like Goku's training in 100x gravity advanced him as much as a good workout does to the average person

[Zach Logan]

Ichigo's power Progression in Soul Society.

If you think thats "wow", wait till you see how fast he advances later. His power increases almost make it look like Goku's training in 100x gravity advanced him as much as a good workout does to the average person

I agree, it gets a little crazy...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

And that's why they call it DBZ with swords.

[Malex]

And that's why they call it DBZ with swords.

You ain't see nothin' yet.

[Sparticus]

Both! :anime:

Ditto! :zim:

[Freedom Fighter]

"I knew that stupid outfit would get him in trouble."

A good show knows when to be funny and when to be serious. This episode is Bleach's best example of how to follow that rule so far.

Lots of funny in the early going: Orihime being punished for her 'save,' Uryu bringing out a spare cape, and Jidanbo's interesting... dialogue.

As for the seriousness, wowzers. I had forgotten how powerful Ichigo has gotten already, and the gang's just getting past the gate into the Seiretai! He beats Jidanbo, who's 2-3 times his size, and is wielding one... no, wait, two axes!

Oh, wait... make that zero axes.

Ending with more funny... Uryu complaining about Ichigo being called the leader since he's the strongest. Doesn't he realize without the 'team' designation, the others would have to fight Jidanbo too? Including Uryu himself?

"Enter! The World of the Shinigami": 4/5.

[Captain Highwind]

Ending with more funny... Uryu complaining about Ichigo being called the leader since he's the strongest. Doesn't he realize without the 'team' designation, the others would have to fight Jidanbo too? Including Uryu himself?

He's probably jumpy that Ichigo's in charge...because he considers Ichigo an idiot.

Ishida thinks himself quite capable of handling the situation.

EDIT: Another thing I noticed about the titles--their translations are different. Shouldn't it be, "Enter! The World of the Soul Reapers?" :P

[Duke]

EDIT: Another thing I noticed about the titles--their translations are different. Shouldn't it be, "Enter! The World of the Soul Reapers?" :P
Considering Viz seems to not be using these versions of the titles, I don't think it matters.

[SS5goku]

I have one question is Orihime gay, I mean I was just wondering because her little friend seems like they like each other alot, or are they just good friends. I can deal with friends and nothing more than that. Plus good episode, funny when the big guy started to cry.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I have one question is Orihime gay, I mean I was just wondering because her little friend seems like they like each other alot, or are they just good friends. I can deal with friends and nothing more than that. Plus good episode, funny when the big guy started to cry.

Are you serious? Orihime has a blatant crush on Ichigo. She's definitely straight.

Chizuru(the girl in their class with glasses) is a lesbian, though.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

You ain't see nothin' yet.

Come now, I've seen to the end of this arc and beyond.

[Malex]

Come now, I've seen to the end of this arc and beyond.

...including the manga?

Seriously, I forgot that you followed the series beyond Adult Swim. There! I have admitted I made a mistake. At least at this point, it is obvious that Ichigo has a ways to go since he has to take on 26 opponents to get to Rukia. It's not like Ichigo can beat Byakuya and walk away with Rukia with the second opening and third opening being proof positive. So we really haven't seen much on the AS run.

[SS5goku]

Are you serious? Orihime has a blatant crush on Ichigo. She's definitely straight.

Chizuru(the girl in their class with glasses) is a lesbian, though.


Oh ok that's cool, they look good together.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Since a pairing was brought up..... Is there any indication Orihime X Ishida? I ABSOLUTLY HATE HATE HATEEE that, and was just curious if he shows anything towards her or visa verse. (because i dont notcie it)

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Since a pairing was brought up..... Is there any indication Orihime X Ishida? I ABSOLUTLY HATE HATE HATEEE that, and was just curious if he shows anything towards her or visa verse. (because i dont notcie it)


Based on later events, it does seem like Ishida might have a thing for Orihime. But she's not only completely oblivious, but gets the idea that he has a thing for Rukia in her head.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

Based on later events, it does seem like Ishida might have a thing for Orihime. But she's not only completely oblivious, but gets the idea that he has a thing for Rukia in her head.


*dies a little*

[MessyB]

Since a pairing was brought up..... Is there any indication Orihime X Ishida? I ABSOLUTLY HATE HATE HATEEE that, and was just curious if he shows anything towards her or visa verse. (because i dont notcie it)

I'm definitely a proponent of the Ichigo/Rukia, Orihime/Chad, and to a lesser extent Ishida/Tatsuki ships.

However, after reading the manga from just after SS arc up to the latest, it's pretty clear they're going to go with Ichigo/Orihime. Orihimie explictly states that she loves Ichigo (tho no one hears this).

[MessyB]

I can deal with friends and nothing more than that.

Hope you don't have a problem with that in general, because Tite Kubo loves lesbians almost as much as he loves Spanish.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Hope you don't have a problem with that in general, because Tite Kubo loves lesbians almost as much as he loves Spanish.

LOL

And it's true, too.:D

But Kubo is definitely a man who loves his Spanish.

[XOMiss_Samantha]

I'm definitely a proponent of the Ichigo/Rukia, Orihime/Chad, and to a lesser extent Ishida/Tatsuki ships.

However, after reading the manga from just after SS arc up to the latest, it's pretty clear they're going to go with Ichigo/Orihime. Orihimie explictly states that she loves Ichigo (tho no one hears this).


GOOOD, tho i must say im a total
Rukia/ Renji. I put this in spoiler just because their pasts havent really been explained much

BUT NO. no relationships for Ishida! *shakes fingers* He must be MINE. ha :sweat:

[Beat]

Hope you don't have a problem with that in general, because Tite Kubo loves lesbians almost as much as he loves Spanish.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/df/BumblebeeMan.gif/200px-BumblebeeMan.gif

Ay, es muy picante!

I've heard the stories about some of the yuri lines being flat out rejected from the manga, much less the anime. Fun times.

[Rolling Cloud]

I've heard the stories about some of the yuri lines being flat out rejected from the manga, much less the anime. Fun times.

Chizuru wanting to "eat" Orihime! LOL

[Zach Logan]

I love Tite Kubo's love of spanish, especially when the music and character names reflect that MUCH later in the series....such good music...:sweat:

[Game Freak 4]

You should hear my names for the DICE characters.
That show makes me think that not all anime are good, original or not.