Final Fantasy 8 Discussion

[Sumi_Masen]

The MAIN reason I would want a PS2 is FFX, I was reading an article about it in, I think it was Anime Invasion, and it went from "I want it to I GOTTA get ii!" In the article, it also said something about FFXI coming out later this year.......maybe.

[Zorakfan]

To quote the FF commercial:

(Blah blah blah, our game kicks ass, it's the best here's some quotes: Oh! FFX is god! I started a new religion based on it/yevon! I won the game! Now I'm a winner! etc.)

Don't believe a word...until you've played it.


Yeah...the commercial about sums it up. It's the bestacular FF since 7.

[Sumi_Masen]

All I know is it looks good enough. It'll probably be better than 8 was(that definately was not one of my favorites). X's gotta be good, right? FF is the longest running game series(I think).
Anyway, NOTHING compares to VI (a.k.a. III)

[Zorakfan]

FF6 was fantastical. FFX is fantasticaler.

[Sumi_Masen]

Originally posted by Zorakfan
FF6 was fantastical. FFX is fantasticaler.

Whatever floats your boat! I'm stickin' w/ 6

[Sumi_Masen]

I heard somewher that Xbox was trying to get the rights to the new FF game.....probably not true.....

[Zorakfan]

No, because then I'll amass an army of cactuars and Tonberries and go Omni-slash Bill Gate's ass back to the 8-bit world.

[Naraht]

Originally posted by Sumi_Masen
I heard somewher that Xbox was trying to get the rights to the new FF game.....probably not true.....

I'm fairly sure that Sony has the exclusive rights....

if anyone else is gonna get into the FF bus...it'll be nintendo...cause I heard that the head Nintendo guy apologized to the head FF guy..I think..

see, the reason FF stopped being on Nintendo systems, is that FF didn't want the games to be on cartrige anymore, cause there isn't as much room. Nintendo kept refusing to go with a disk system, cause they have such slow load times (but they're getting betterer). Now that nintendo has gone disk, we'll see.


I'm sure someone will correct me...

[Zorakfan]

mmm....nope, sounds about right. If anyone, nintendo will probably pick up the rights to any FF games on a console other than PS. I mean, they had a good run with nintendo (FF6) until they started making FF64 (somethin like that...they had some really really early production shots, and it wasn't FF7) but since Nintendo wasn't on a disk system, and there was still confusion/complications regarding the 64 disc drive, Square had enough and just left for Sony. Recently, it may or may not have been miyamoto himself (most likely just a CEO) apologized to squaresoft for being pig-headed and stubborn, things went well, and I believe there are 1 or 2 square games in production for GC. (I don't think they're FF games though) That's about it though. I could be and probably am wrong.

[Exatron]

I find it rather interesting that so many people think Nintendo should apologize for not bending over backwards to accommodate Square. There's a bit more to the story of Square abandoning software development for Nintendo consoles. Both companies hold a bit of a grudge against each other.

Square was in the early stages of developing FF VII for the N64 when they decided to move the project to the Playstation for the larger storage space.

When asked his opinion of Square's decision, Yamauchi (SP?) said that some things couldn't be helped.

For some reason Square then saw fit to publicly insult Nintendo and convinced Enix to abandon development for the N64 as well. This is actually the source of the current animosity between Square and Nintendo.

Square now wants to develop games for at least the GBA, but Nintendo refuses to grant Square a licensee unless they produce original games for Nintendo consoles, develop games for the GCN, and apologize for their actions after abandoning the N64.

[Jowy Blight]

I would say to go with the system that has more games you want. Right now, alot of PS2's have been breaking down after a few months. I know because all my friend's PS2's have been messing up. If you want it though, I say get it.


FF6 was fantastical. FFX is fantasticaler.

I loved FF6, but FFX was utter crap. I've never seen such a bad game since FF8. :( I hope FF11 is better...........

[Sumi_Masen]

FF8 was my least fave FF game.... I even liked 9 better!

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Sumi_Masen
FF8 was my least fave FF game.... I even liked 9 better!


In my opinion so far (I'm not done with it yet), FF10 is the most like FF8, which is great by me, since I loved FF8. FF9 really disappointed me though.

[Sumi_Masen]

Originally posted by Clayface



In my opinion so far (I'm not done with it yet), FF10 is the most like FF8, which is great by me, since I loved FF8. FF9 really disappointed me though.


9 was a bit dissapointing to me too....... it was my second least favorite FF game..... oh well, I hope 11 is better. :)

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Sumi_Masen


9 was a bit dissapointing to me too....... it was my second least favorite FF game..... oh well, I hope 11 is better. :)


I'm curious - what was it about 8 you didn't like?

[Sumi_Masen]

Originally posted by Clayface



I'm curious - what was it about 8 you didn't like?


I'm not sure...... sorry I can't really answer your question. :)

[Jowy Blight]

In my opinion so far (I'm not done with it yet), FF10 is the most like FF8, which is great by me, since I loved FF8. FF9 really disappointed me though.

I still don't get what people saw in FF8, sure it has nice graphics, but it's characters, story, and battle system were awful. It's like one day someone went to Square and said "To hell with story, all we need is for the game to look good!" and this is what came out.

[Sumi_Masen]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight


I still don't get what people saw in FF8, sure it has nice graphics, but it's characters, story, and battle system were awful. It's like one day someone went to Square and said "To hell with story, all we need is for the game to look good!" and this is what came out.

THAT'S IT!!!!! Those are some of the reasons I don't like FF8!
Dang.....

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight


I still don't get what people saw in FF8, sure it has nice graphics, but it's characters, story, and battle system were awful.


See, I'm just the other way around. I've never understood the criticisms of the game. I thought the characters were some of the coolest they've ever created in the FF series, and I absolutely love the whole gunblade thing. The story is my favorite of all the FFs so far, next to FF7 - and its the only one that's ever truely brought a tear to my eye. And I didn't have any problem with the battle system other than the long summon vids.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter

I liked FF8 too, but I thought the battle system was a bit weak. There was way too much of a dependence on the summon creatures.

See, I don't agree. I think its just how you play it. Personally, since I got sick of the summon vids, I didn't use the summons that much. I focused on the best weapons and leveling up, and I didn't have any problems. Now, you wanna talk dependence on summons, tlak about FF10! That's about all I do in thebattle anymore!

[Jowy Blight]

I think this person says it all when it comes to FF8, Review (http://www.epinions.com/game-review-6554-9552EA-394AEE2C-prod1)

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight
I think this person says it all when it comes to FF8, Review (http://www.epinions.com/game-review-6554-9552EA-394AEE2C-prod1)

I'd like to reply to this review, but I think I'm getting too far off topic if I do. So I won't. But I will say that that person is obviously a very different gamer than I am. He says in the review that he had a bias against the love story aspects of the game, and that, to me, was what made the game so great.

[Jowy Blight]

I'd like to reply to this review, but I think I'm getting too far off topic if I do. So I won't. But I will say that that person is obviously a very different gamer than I am. He says in the review that he had a bias against the love story aspects of the game, and that, to me, was what made the game so great.

Yeah, we are kinda geting off topic here, but before I go, I've read other reviews by that guy. It's not so much he doesn't like love story aspects in games, it just in FF8 it was done so poorly. They kinda threw out alot of story for that and graphics.

But now I better stop before I start going on and on about that.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight

It's not so much he doesn't like love story aspects in games, it just in FF8 it was done so poorly.

See, I felt it was the only RPG I've ever seen that did it properly. They always do it so cliched and sappy in other rpg's, but in this one I really sympathized with the characters and the story - I related to them more than I have in any other RPG.

We should just start another thread for this so we can discuss it properly.

[Bird Boy]

phew..I split this from the best new system thread..I think I did everything right..lol.

-BB

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Final Fantasy geek thread alert! And that requires a geek response:

Personally, I think FF6 is the most well-crafted FF--it has a story with scope and comprehensibility (something that started to get lost with the PS FFs) and it's menu and battle system was top notch. You could mix and match abilities to produce unexpected results, mix and match spells (Vanish- X-Zone) and there were a plethora of ways you could equip someone. I kind of missed that right hand, left hand feature--it made the characters seem more realistic. Also, it was linear to a point--you could still do some exploring of your own which didn't harm the main plotline.

Now, MY FAVOURITE FF is FF IV. Yes, that puny graphics and schmaltzy romance one. These characters connected with me more than any other FF cast--how could I not fall for devoted lovebirds Rosa and Cecil? Awww. And look, Rydia is so cute! Yes, there were probably only 5 BGM tracks in the whole game, but what sweet music it was! I could hum it to you without even thinking about it.

I will concede, however, that FF7 wraps the best elements of previous FFs up into a sweet, sweet package. No, I didn't cry when Aeris died (sorry, FF deaths are not surprising to me anymore--I fell for cheap Palom and Porom sprites "dying" in FFIV, but not this time, no matter how well you FMV it...) but damn it was a nice game. I loved the characters, even if I didn't quite get what the story was all about. Something about cloning Sephiroth and lifestreams and floating meteors...but who cares, the characters were great, and that's what counts! Also, the menu was accessible for newbies, none of the right hand/left hand equip crap (I'm the only one crying over its loss) and it was a step into a more cinematic direction (for better or for worse). Either way, it's up there, probably my third favourite FF.

Haven't played enough FFIX, and from what I've played of 8 seems like a middling FF. The opening minutes smacked too much of FF7. I suppose people could imagine that Rinoa and whats-his-name were actually Tifa and Cloud (for all of us who liked the Tifa and Cloud thing) but sorry, not enough. Battle system a bit awry as well.

FFX is, as some said, a little too linear. But the battle system is interesting, and it tells a pretty good story. Dig the exotic clothing and atmosphere. When I finally finish it, I'll draw an opinion on it. So far, it's like a good point and click game where you occasionally fight (okay, more than occasionally). I like what I've seen so far,

[spectre316]

Question: was Final Fantasy IX good? Never touched it yet...

But, God, how I love Final Fantasy VIII. Admitting that I did not enjoy it when I first played it; I was expecting a lot, well, FFVII like storyline.

But in the end I realized how freaking perfect it was. It's personally the best FF game ever made.

[SilverKnight]

Personally, I enjoyed FFVII the most. The characters were cool, the story was innovative, ("No no no Sephiroth, destroy the HEROES, control the WORLD"), and the ending was open-ended, which really left me wanting more. Okay, so the storyline was weird, I'll grant, and I didn't get it the first time either. I've heard a very interesting theory on the storyline, but I'll save that for another discussion.

I've never beat FFVIII, because I had to give it back to my friend, but from what I saw, it wasn't necessarily a bad game. The battle system was pretty cool, and the spell "cards" were definately original, but the characters seemed a little...flat, to me. Like I said, I never played the whole thing, and I don't know the entire story. However, from what I played (about a quarter of the way through the second disk), it was somewhat predictable. I mean, I KNEW Laguna was Squall's father, and that the chick he liked was Rinoa's mother. It was a classic twist that I could see coming from a mile away. But again, I've never played enough of it.

Now, I need to start playing the old school FF's again, so I can gain an opinion on them. :) Gotta love roms. >grins<

[The Mad Hatter]

Clayface, you think FFX is too dependent on the summons? Wow... I actually thought that X made you a little UNDER-dependent on the summons, since their attacks aren't that powerful, comparatively, and they tend to die relatively quickly. Guess it really does depend on how you play it.

And Spectre, I enjoyed FFIX... there's precious little innovation in the game, but it was made for the fans who revolted against FFVIII. The story's a bit on the weak side, but if you're a hard-core FF geek, it does mix in elements from EVERY previous FF game, especially I and II (Japan). Plus, I got a huge kick out of VIVI (the classic black mage).

[Clayface]

Hehe - cool. They gave us a FF thread. I'll try and get back to the discussion of FF8 later on - dont' have time to get into it tonight. But inthe meantime...


Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Clayface, you think FFX is too dependent on the summons? Wow... I actually thought that X made you a little UNDER-dependent on the summons, since their attacks aren't that powerful, comparatively, and they tend to die relatively quickly. Guess it really does depend on how you play it.


Yeah, I'm about half way through the game, and about the only one I ever use anymore is Yuna. I just pull out one of my big guys and have him wipe out all the baddies - he's so powered up now that I don't need anything else. They don't die quickly if you upgrade thier hit-points, and they can do a heck of alot of damage if you upgrade their spells and abilities.

[Jowy Blight]

Yeah, I'm about half way through the game, and about the only one I ever use anymore is Yuna. I just pull out one of my big guys and have him wipe out all the baddies - he's so powered up now that I don't need anything else. They don't die quickly if you upgrade thier hit-points, and they can do a heck of alot of damage if you upgrade their spells and abilities.

Heh, same with me. That's just one of the many problems with the game besides the voices and storyline. I swear, these games get much more simple with each new installment (especially the ones on the PSX).

[Clayface]

While I haven't competed the game yet, I'd have to say my only real complaint so far is that its far too linear. I don't mind the "playable movie" type games generally, but I've found myself sitting there a couple of times watching cinemas from FF10 and thinking to myself "Am I ever really going to want to sit through all this again"? Maybe that will change down the line.

[Jowy Blight]

I don't mind the "playable movie" type games generally, but I've found myself sitting there a couple of times watching cinemas from FF10 and thinking to myself "Am I ever really going to want to sit through all this again"? Maybe that will change down the line.

If you think that's bad, you should play MGS2. I've never played such a short game that was more movie then game. It mostly just had you runing down a hall to get to the next cinema. God, what a horrible sequel.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight


If you think that's bad, you should play MGS2. I've never played such a short game that was more movie then game. It mostly just had you runing down a hall to get to the next cinema. God, what a horrible sequel.

I totally disagree. If I could only have one Playstation game, I would choose MGS2. I've played it. Many times. And I absolutely love it.

[Jowy Blight]

I totally disagree. If I could only have one Playstation game, I would choose MGS2. I've played it. Many times. And I absolutely love it.

Alright, I respect your opinion. But don't you think that they might of put a few too many cinemas in that game?

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight


Alright, I respect your opinion. But don't you think that they might of put a few too many cinemas in that game?

Not at all! I wish there were more actually! I don't mind a ton of cinemas in games - as long as they keep my interest. MGS2 kept my interest. So far, the cinemas in FF10 seem to be repeating a lot of the same stuff over and over, and I kind of wish they'd get on with it.

[Jowy Blight]

Not at all! I wish there were more actually! I don't mind a ton of cinemas in games - as long as they keep my interest. MGS2 kept my interest. So far, the cinemas in FF10 seem to be repeating a lot of the same stuff over and over, and I kind of wish they'd get on with it.

Well, I know what you mean, I loved the cinemas in Lunar 2. Maybe it was because I didn't like what-his-name as the new main character on MSG2.

Plus, his suit was so tight, that I was pretty much blind most of the game, and lets not even mention when he had to run around naked.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight


Well, I know what you mean, I loved the cinemas in Lunar 2. Maybe it was because I didn't like what-his-name as the new main character on MSG2.

Plus, his suit was so tight, that I was pretty much blind most of the game, and lets not even mention when he had to run around naked.

I liked the main character a lot, so that didn't bother me at all. I liked the suit he wore, especially the cool Sandman-esque face mask. And I thought the naked part was hilarious, so I didn't mind that either.

[Jowy Blight]

I liked the suit he wore, especially the cool Sandman-esque face mask.

Heh, I swear everyone like's that mask. :D I heard they were making a MGS3, is do think there's any truth to that?

[Clayface]

Yep, but this one won't be directed by Hideo.